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Iran Air Looking At 100 Boeing Aircraft Order

Sun Jan 24, 2016 1:42 pm

From the BBC web site

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35394835

quote:
Iran's deputy transport minister Asghar Fakhrieh Kashan told Reuters that Iran is interested in buying 100 aircraft.
UN sanctions were lifted a week ago, allowing Airbus to negotiate a deal to sell 114 aircraft to Iran.

[Edited 2016-01-24 05:43:16]
 
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RE: Iran Air Looking At 100 Boeing Aircraft Order

Sun Jan 24, 2016 1:45 pm

This will be very political considering the new us sanctions against Iran.
 
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RE: Iran Air Looking At 100 Boeing Aircraft Order

Sun Jan 24, 2016 1:49 pm

I think these new 'sanctions' are being overstated, they are restricted to a small number of companies and individuals:

quote:
The new sanctions prevent 11 entities and individuals linked to the missile programme from using the US banking system.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-35338901
 
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RE: Iran Air Looking At 100 Boeing Aircraft Order

Sun Jan 24, 2016 1:59 pm

Already being discussed:
Iran Air To Buy 114 Airbus Planes This Week (by SteinarN Jan 24 2016 in Civil Aviation)
IR To Buy 8 A380s (by TheSonntag Jan 24 2016 in Civil Aviation)
 
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RE: Iran Air Looking At 100 Boeing Aircraft Order

Sun Jan 24, 2016 2:04 pm

Airbuses are being discussed in those threads, not Boeings
 
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RE: Iran Air Looking At 100 Boeing Aircraft Order

Sun Jan 24, 2016 2:09 pm

Quoting fcogafa (Reply 4):
Airbuses are being discussed in those threads, not Boeings

Ah yes. Sorry - should pay more attention.
 
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Sun Jan 24, 2016 2:12 pm

It is great to see Iran getting to modernize its fleet. It will be interesting if Boeing and Airbus split the orders.
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RE: Iran Air Looking At 100 Boeing Aircraft Order

Sun Jan 24, 2016 2:19 pm

Im sure definitely at some points Iran would tie up an order with Boeing, can not say for what types exactly but they will definitely get some, specially with the 737MAX to be making its maiden flight soon! I'm looking forward to them MAXs in Iran's fleet  
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RE: Iran Air Looking At 100 Boeing Aircraft Order

Sun Jan 24, 2016 2:19 pm

Misleading title - nothing specific about Boeings - this thread can be merged with the other threads.
 
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RE: Iran Air Looking At 100 Boeing Aircraft Order

Sun Jan 24, 2016 2:21 pm

Quoting ASA (Reply 8):
Misleading title - nothing specific about Boeings - this thread can be merged with the other threads.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35394835
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RE: Iran Air Looking At 100 Boeing Aircraft Order

Sun Jan 24, 2016 4:18 pm

Of Boeing's offerings would best suit Boeing?

Example, if Iran Air were to order 30 767's pax, would that help Boeing more than piling on more 787 or 777 orders?

Naturally a 747-8i will be mentioned very soon so I though I'd say it first  
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RE: Iran Air Looking At 100 Boeing Aircraft Order

Sun Jan 24, 2016 4:59 pm

In the narrowbody sector Airbus is sold out. I think Boeing has some slots for NG's, but not sure.

In the wideboy sector I'm guessing they'd want availability - which means 777's and 748's.
 
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RE: Iran Air Looking At 100 Boeing Aircraft Order

Sun Jan 24, 2016 6:08 pm

I can only rephrase what I have written in the other threads about the subject at hand:

Iran will refrain from ordering even the smallest amount of Boeing airplanes until the US presidential elections are over. Whatever regi.. I mean, political party.. will be in office in 2017 will then decide if further deals can be made with Iran.
After all, why would you plan for, place an order and pay for something that may be annulled overnight.
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RE: Iran Air Looking At 100 Boeing Aircraft Order

Sun Jan 24, 2016 6:47 pm

Quoting Semaex (Reply 12):
Iran will refrain from ordering even the smallest amount of Boeing airplanes until the US presidential elections are over. Whatever regi.. I mean, political party.. will be in office in 2017 will then decide if further deals can be made with Iran.
After all, why would you plan for, place an order and pay for something that may be annulled overnight.

  

Exactly. If the Iranians had an iota of brain - they'll refrain from ordering new Boeings now - other than just getting spare parts or maybe grab few used ones to get the IR fleet running. In most likelihood, it will be an all Airbus order ... old & new mixed probably. Even Boeing isn't sure at this point - the news article says "However, last week Boeing said there are "many steps" before it decides to sell aircraft to Iran."

Quoting nimool (Reply 9):

Quoting ASA (Reply 8):
Misleading title - nothing specific about Boeings - this thread can be merged with the other threads.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35394835

OK - seriously - where in the news item does it say what this thread title says?

"Iran is considering buying planes from US manufacturer Boeing as it moves to upgrade its fleet following the removal of UN sanctions." and "Iran's deputy transport minister Asghar Fakhrieh Kashan told Reuters that Iran is interested in buying 100 aircraft." ... these are two completely separate sentences meant to imply the obvious. And completely misleading of course!
 
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Sun Jan 24, 2016 6:47 pm

Bitter sweet!!
Of course I am happy, but some selfish thing inside me hates to say good bye to all of those legends still flown high by the Iranians! Kudos to the engineers and staff who made it this far. Would also be great to see many new liveries from them Persians!

  
 
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RE: Iran Air Looking At 100 Boeing Aircraft Order

Sun Jan 24, 2016 6:54 pm

They seem interested in the 737's but I would be really hesitant to buy anything from Boeing new from the USA unless there is some sort of treaty or agreement on aviation parts. Either they'd have to get insurance, stockpile the spare parts inside Iran or deposit a $1 Billion in their Bank as collateral in case sanctions kicked in. If they did, you could at least confiscate the parts in Iran and/or take the cash. Of course, Boeing would never agree to that so you'd end up with a all Airbus fleet.

There were at least 2-3 aviation crashes in the last 20 years that arguably were related to unsafe planes that had US origin parts. The 727's in particular had all sorts of problems.
 
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Sun Jan 24, 2016 7:16 pm

Here's my suggestion:

http://www.cardatabase.net/modifiedairlinerphotos/photos/big/00014993.jpg
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Sun Jan 24, 2016 7:36 pm

Quoting Miami (Reply 16):

Here's my suggestion:

my my ... that looks awesome ... Thanks!

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RE: Iran Air Looking At 100 Boeing Aircraft Order

Sun Jan 24, 2016 8:16 pm

As this topic can't be discussed without politics I have to share my thoughts: as long as the republicans hold the majority in the USA, I don't see the sanctions to be lifted, not even with a president from the democrats. See the changes to the Visa Waiver Program which were decided on in December. The majority of the US politicians still sees the Iran as a terrorist country...

I really hope the right people will win the next US selections and thus all sanctions being lifted. I so much would love to see a 748i order. This is the last chance for this aircraft to get any orders; and only because it would be available very quick...
 
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Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:48 pm

No orders. No influence!!!

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RE: Iran Air Looking At 100 Boeing Aircraft Order

Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:52 pm

Quoting ASA (Reply 13):
OK - seriously - where in the news item does it say what this thread title says?

"Iran is considering buying planes from US manufacturer Boeing as it moves to upgrade its fleet following the removal of UN sanctions." and "Iran's deputy transport minister Asghar Fakhrieh Kashan told Reuters that Iran is interested in buying 100 aircraft." ... these are two completely separate sentences meant to imply the obvious. And completely misleading of course!

1. Iran is considering buying planes from US manufacturer Boeing as it moves to upgrade its fleet following the removal of UN sanctions

2. Iran's deputy transport minister Asghar Fakhrieh Kashan told Reuters that Iran is interested in buying 100 aircraft.

To me both of these sentences sounds as Iran is looking at or rather considering Boeing, who what so misleading about this thread my friend? 
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Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:49 pm

Hey all,
I would expect a Boeing order if politically possible to include 737s, 777s and hopefully 747-8s.
I believe the 737s would be NGs rather than MAXs due to earlier availability and possibly Boeing's willingness to cut a deal on these run-out models. Look at the speculated United deal for 737-700s.
As to the 777s, probably -300ERs and a few -200LRs to launch ULH routes to SE Asia and possibly Australia in the medium term. I really can't see the 777-8 or -9 getting much love at the moment from Iran.
The 747-8 could be ordered in both forms. I think about 4 -8Fs and maybe 4-6 -8is could be ordered, although the speculated order for 8 A380s could squash the order for 747-8is, sadly. The 747-8BBJ? Could Iran order at least one as a new head of state aircraft?
I am not sure about the Dreamliner, maybe some but I feel that the rumoured 40 x A330s and 16 x A350s may squash any Dreamliner order for the moment. Expanding too quickly with a heap of new aircraft models would be a maintenance and crewing nightmare for any Iranian airline.
Likewise, I can't see the 767 getting any orders, except maybe the freighter version, unless Boeing is able to delivery rapidly. The KC-46 however, may get an Iranian order in a decade or two, wink.
A further point: obviously the orders for civil planes are heavily political and financial driven. I wonder if Iran Air, Mahan Air etc were allowed to independently choose their orders, what would they choose?
Also, I wonder if the Iranian Government will order a huge number of planes and then decide/publicise later which airlines are getting how many of each type ordered. I guess we will all find out very soon. I for one am very intrigued by all of this.
And I am really hoping that the rumours of a possible Sydney service in the longer term are true... doubtful but I have my fingers crossed!
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RE: Iran Air Looking At 100 Boeing Aircraft Order

Mon Jan 25, 2016 12:02 am

Quoting bunumuring (Reply 22):

I would expect a Boeing order if politically possible to include 737s, 777s and hopefully 747-8s.

Why the 748? What about IR makes the 748 ideal for them but not for just about everyone airline other than CI, KE, and LH?
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Mon Jan 25, 2016 12:09 am

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 23):
Why the 748? What about IR makes the 748 ideal for them but not for just about everyone airline other than CI, KE, and LH?

The A380 may be too big and the 777X is still a few years out and the current 777 backlog is pretty big, unless they go for the 77E.
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Mon Jan 25, 2016 1:36 am

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 23):
Why the 748? What about IR makes the 748 ideal for them but not for just about everyone airline other than CI, KE, and LH?

If they want birds of that size fast.
 
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RE: Iran Air Looking At 100 Boeing Aircraft Order

Mon Jan 25, 2016 1:45 am

Quoting mjoelnir (Reply 25):
If they want birds of that size fast.

How fast could they get them at a production rate of 0.5 per month?

Anyway Boeing says no sale.

Quote:
Boeing has said: “There are many steps that need to be taken should we decide to sell airplanes to Iran’s airlines. For now, we are assessing the situation.”
http://www.wsj.com/articles/boeing-c...fit-from-iranian-orders-1453620511

[Edited 2016-01-24 17:45:48]
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Mon Jan 25, 2016 1:50 am

IF Iran were to order Boeings, how much faster could they get 747-8s delivered instead of 77Ws? I love the 747 but I think that Boeing would rather make a deal to bridge the gap till 777-8/9 production. From an enthusiast's position, I would love to see new Boeing metal for Iran. In reality, I don't agree with taking the sanctions off. I think we are all going to be kicking ourselves in several years.
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Mon Jan 25, 2016 2:02 am

Quoting Semaex (Reply 12):

I can only rephrase what I have written in the other threads about the subject at hand:

Iran will refrain from ordering even the smallest amount of Boeing airplanes until the US presidential elections are over. Whatever regi.. I mean, political party.. will be in office in 2017 will then decide if further deals can be made with Iran.
After all, why would you plan for, place an order and pay for something that may be annulled overnight.



The US government can block the sale of an Airbus plane to Iran as well. Airbus planes have a significant amount of US built and designed equipment. They can't deliver a plane missing avionics equipment, pumps, generators, etc.
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Mon Jan 25, 2016 2:21 am

Roseflyer hit the nail on the head. Both Airbus and Boeing aircraft can be sanctioned. The current U.S. leadership has turned a semi-blind eye to Iran acquiring aircraft lately. That could all change with a blink of an eye. What new aircraft could Iran get on property as fast as possible? I suspect signing up for end of the line 737NGs would be the shortest wait. Boeing would like to keep 77W production at its current level. Grabbing some end of the line frames on that program wouldn't require such a long wait either. Brand new aircraft on Iranian soil in the form of 737NG and 777W is jumping light years from where they are now. The same can be said of A320s and A330s. I just think that the wait time on A320NEOs and A330s would be longer. If the engineers can keep 707s flying, it wouldn't be that difficult to keep 737NG and 77Ws in the air.
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Mon Jan 25, 2016 2:25 am

Quoting CX747 (Reply 29):
Roseflyer hit the nail on the head. Both Airbus and Boeing aircraft can be sanctioned.

Yes and no, if US try to sanction Airbus is becomes an international incident / potential trade war which is not a course of action to be taken lightly.

With Boeing it barks and Boeing rolls over.
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Mon Jan 25, 2016 2:31 am

Quoting BoeingVista (Reply 30):
Yes and no, if US try to sanction Airbus is becomes an international incident / potential trade war which is not a course of action to be taken lightly.

There's just so much U.S. manufactured and designed componentry in any Airbus aircraft, I think sanctions will be easily applicable.
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Mon Jan 25, 2016 2:36 am

Too much of the Airbus is made in the good old US of A. No trade war would erupt.
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Mon Jan 25, 2016 2:40 am

Quoting motorhussy (Reply 31):
There's just so much U.S. manufactured and designed componentry in any Airbus aircraft, I think sanctions will be easily applicable.

If US wants to sanction high tech equipment then yes it hits Airbus and Boeing, this will not please the EU if it seen to scupper a European contract for no good reason and there may be consequences.

Even the visa rubbish will have consequences as visa rules are reciprocal, if US prevents EU citizens from access to electronic visas EU does the same to Americans.
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Mon Jan 25, 2016 3:26 am

Quoting roseflyer (Reply 28):
The US government can block the sale of an Airbus plane to Iran as well. Airbus planes have a significant amount of US built and designed equipment.

Wow - some sour grapes there?

Given that the US President has allowed the sale of aircraft to Iran, it would be untenable for the US to try and impose sanctions on Airbus:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/p...ement-implementation-day/78884068/

"Obama allows sale of aircraft to Iran as nuclear deal nears implementation

President Obama took another step toward implementing the Iran nuclear deal Friday, empowering the secretary of State to allow the export of civilian passenger aircraft to Iran."


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Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:24 am

I'm guessing he means that Boeing AND Airbus would be restricted, not just Airbus.

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RE: Iran Air Looking At 100 Boeing Aircraft Order

Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:35 am

Quoting PlanesNTrains (Reply 35):
I'm guessing he means that Boeing AND Airbus would be restricted, not just Airbus.

Maybe. If so, I take back the sour grapes comment.

Strategically, I think it would be a shrewd tactic for Iran Air to place an order for Boeing aircraft, and a fairly large one, but - not quite yet.

Closer to the election perhaps, as a kind of insurance - that if the US elects someone who is inclined to look unfavourably on any Iran deal there might be considerable pressure - by Boeing and its many allies in business - not to cancel the aircraft order.

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RE: Iran Air Looking At 100 Boeing Aircraft Order

Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:57 am

Quoting BoeingVista (Reply 26):
How fast could they get them at a production rate of 0.5 per month?

starting with white tails.

Quoting mariner (Reply 36):
Strategically, I think it would be a shrewd tactic for Iran Air to place an order for Boeing aircraft, and a fairly large one, but - not quite yet.

Provided Boeing is prepared to offer and sell. The message coming from Boeing does not sound that way.
 
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Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:01 am

Quoting mjoelnir (Reply 37):
Provided Boeing is prepared to offer and sell. The message coming from Boeing does not sound that way.

Oh, I agree.

But then Airbus was making very cautious noises as well, even just before sanctions were lifted and rumours of the deal were running.

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Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:01 am

Quoting BoeingVista (Reply 30):
Yes and no, if US try to sanction Airbus is becomes an international incident / potential trade war which is not a course of action to be taken lightly.

With Boeing it barks and Boeing rolls over.

They wouldn't sanction Airbus they would just prevent the sale. That is not the same thing. Also, I don't expect it to happen as it would be meaningless.

Quoting BoeingVista (Reply 33):
Even the visa rubbish will have consequences as visa rules are reciprocal, if US prevents EU citizens from access to electronic visas EU does the same to Americans.

So who hurts more in that deal? They have the option to be recicprocal and the head of the EU has been pretty negative about the visa rules. Wouldn't assume they are going to be reciprocated. Again, not that it matters. Far fewer immigrant state side.

Quoting mariner (Reply 36):

Closer to the election perhaps, as a kind of insurance

Sorry but that is really crazy. 100 unit order impacting presidential politics? Honestly what is that less than half a billion in taxes? Is that .0001 of the US federal budget? Its meaningless.

Maybe Boeing can lobby for leverage but in terms of the US economy its infinitesimally small if this order goes through. Meaningless. France on the other hand...


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Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:06 am

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 39):
Sorry but that is really crazy. 100 unit order impacting presidential politics?

No. After the event.

I doubt that any Presidential candidate would take that stand before the election but if A Certain Candidate wins he might just suggest it when he's President.

Is "she" wins, I doubt there'd be a problem.

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Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:12 am

Quoting mariner (Reply 40):
I doubt that any Presidential candidate would take that stand before the election but if A Certain Candidate wins he might just suggest it when he's President.

Is "she" wins, I doubt there'd be a problem.


Honestly do the math mariner relative to the US budget. Any sized order is meaningless. It will only be done if there are political points to be made but the presumption that its dollars related is extremely low. Maybe well placed lobbying dollars with some screwed congressmen but Presidential? I just can't see an angle there. We really do have to put the size of this order in perspective. Its meaningless.

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Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:20 am

Quoting mjoelnir (Reply 25):

If they want birds of that size fast.

Nobody else does. Why should they?
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RE: Iran Air Looking At 100 Boeing Aircraft Order

Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:30 am

Quoting mjoelnir (Reply 37):
starting with white tails.

There is only one -8 PAX white tail according to http://747-8.blogspot.com.au/

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 39):
They have the option to be recicprocal and the head of the EU has been pretty negative about the visa rules. Wouldn't assume they are going to be reciprocated. Again, not that it matters. Far fewer immigrant state side.

Its not about Immigrants this is about US citizens who travel to Iran no longer being able to have visa free travel to the EU.

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 39):
So who hurts more in that deal?

Both hurt but there is the principle and I would expect it to be maintained.
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Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:58 am

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 41):
Honestly do the math mariner relative to the US budget.

Oh, good grief, who's talking about the entire US budget?

I'm not absolutely sure what point you;r making, it seems a bit convoluted. Nor am I talking about Presidential politics - I'm talking about business, Boeing business - after the election - and jobs.

It's called leverage - not much, maybe, but some perhaps, depending on the size of the contract. But absent a contract there is no leverage at all.

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RE: Iran Air Looking At 100 Boeing Aircraft Order

Mon Jan 25, 2016 11:03 am

So no types specified, yet.

Quote:
Iran's deputy transport minister Asghar Fakhrieh Kashan told Reuters that Iran is interested in buying 100 aircraft.

However, last week Boeing said there are "many steps" before it decides to sell aircraft to Iran.

Sounds like buying Boeing metal will cost more time to negotiate than the Airbus deal. Why is that?

Quoting CX747 (Reply 27):
IF Iran were to order Boeings, how much faster could they get 747-8s delivered instead of 77Ws?

Not much faster. The 77W backlog is almost depleted and Boeing has plenty delivery slots in 2017.
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RE: Iran Air Looking At 100 Boeing Aircraft Order

Mon Jan 25, 2016 11:11 am

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 23):
Why the 748? What about IR makes the 748 ideal for them but not for just about everyone airline other than CI, KE, and LH?

They have a lot of trained 747 pilots no, or is the 748 too different from the 741, 742, and 74L?

Quoting BoeingVista (Reply 43):
Its not about Immigrants this is about US citizens who travel to Iran no longer being able to have visa free travel to the EU.

The opposite: EU citizens who go to Iran needing a visa for the US. Isn't there an exemption for non-touristic travel?
 
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RE: Iran Air Looking At 100 Boeing Aircraft Order

Mon Jan 25, 2016 11:31 am

Quoting DolphinAir747 (Reply 46):
The opposite: EU citizens who go to Iran needing a visa for the US. Isn't there an exemption for non-touristic travel?

All visa agreements are reciprocal if US inconveniences EU citizens visiting US then EU imposes the same conditions on US citizens visiting the EU. There may be a US exception for Business trips though this is not yet clear.

Quoting DolphinAir747 (Reply 46):
They have a lot of trained 747 pilots no, or is the 748 too different from the 741, 742, and 74L?

Glass cockpits and 2 crew ops are going to be quite different.
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RE: Iran Air Looking At 100 Boeing Aircraft Order

Mon Jan 25, 2016 11:34 am

Quoting DolphinAir747 (Reply 46):
They have a lot of trained 747 pilots no, or is the 748 too different from the 741, 742, and 74L?

I think there's too much difference, their 742s still have a flight engineer! There's a whole step to the 744, and then another step to the 748, though I'm not sure how much 777/787 technology has been incoprated into it. I don't think there's enough commonality for IR to consider 748s with conversion costs in mind.
 
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RE: Iran Air Looking At 100 Boeing Aircraft Order

Mon Jan 25, 2016 11:53 am

Quoting CX747 (Reply 32):

I would not be too sure.

In development tasks I have been working on low to no US sanctionable content is quite often mandated.
This is a long standing trend. also look at the engine single source polarization RR+Airbus and GE+Boeing in recent times.
Most everybody is fed up with the US throwing their weight around.
Murphy is an optimist
 
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RE: Iran Air Looking At 100 Boeing Aircraft Order

Mon Jan 25, 2016 12:20 pm

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 45):
Sounds like buying Boeing metal will cost more time to negotiate
than the Airbus deal. Why is that?

Perhaps this post by Amiga500 in the other thread about Airbus order from Iran
might explain why Airbus have come to a deal already:

Iran Air To Buy 114 Airbus Planes This Week (by SteinarN Jan 24 2016 in Civil Aviation)
Like a thunderbolt of lightning the Dragon roars across the sky. Il Drago Ruggente

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