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Quoting JerseyFlyer (Thread starter): The status appears to be a "Heads of Agreement". Suggests some of it will happen, including this year, but precise make up and timing is subject to a lot of further negotiation. https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/analysis-clarity-yet-to-emerge-on-iran-air-plans-421599/ |
Quoting rutankrd (Reply 2): Several airlines including Mahran and Meraq remain fully black listed from Swift so still can't move money legitimately through the international banking system. |
Quoting BaconButty (Reply 3): I'm mystified why Kaminski-Morrow chose to bring other airlines into the Article when it couldn't have been made more clear that this was a LOI/Order/Whatever for Iran Air specifically. It really does look like a case of reaching to make a point. The article doesn't tell us anything we don't know, beyond the fact that Journalism standards are slipping at Flight. |
Quoting rutankrd (Reply 2): The US continues to filibuster and haven't ended or indicated they intend to end many of the financial sanctions anytime soon. |
Quoting kaitak (Reply 5): Weren't the US signatories to the agreement under which Iran was to reduce its nuclear stockpiles and equipment in return for relaxation of sanctions. |
Quoting rutankrd (Reply 2): The US continues to filibuster and haven't ended or indicated they intend to end many of the financial sanctions anytime soon. |
Quoting superjeff (Reply 8): The last time I looked, Airbus wasn't an American company and, accordingly, could easily use non-American parts and have no problem doing a deal with Iran |
Quoting superjeff (Reply 8): The last time I looked, Airbus wasn't an American company and, accordingly, could easily use non-American parts and have no problem doing a deal with Iran. |
Quoting superjeff (Reply 8): The last time I looked, Airbus wasn't an American company and, accordingly, could easily use non-American parts and have no problem doing a deal with Iran. |
Quoting rutankrd (Reply 9): Its the financing issues combined with continued sanctions on NAMED individuals by the DOJ |
Quoting lightsaber (Reply 13): It is almost unbelievable a nation hasn't signed the Cape Town treaty at this point... |
Quoting lightsaber (Reply 13): It isn't just named individuals. Iran has refused to sign the Cape Town Treaty. Until they do so, they must pay for aircraft 100% down. Seriously, if a nation wants to invent its own rules, it must realize it will be excluded from certain financial transactions and in this case that includes aircraft leasing/financing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Town_Treaty It is almost unbelievable a nation hasn't signed the Cape Town treaty at this point... |
Quoting lightsaber (Reply 13): It isn't just named individuals. Iran has refused to sign the Cape Town Treaty. Until they do so, they must pay for aircraft 100% down. Seriously, if a nation wants to invent its own rules, it must realize it will be excluded from certain financial transactions and in this case that includes aircraft leasing/financing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Town_Treaty It is almost unbelievable a nation hasn't signed the Cape Town treaty at this point... |
Quoting lightsaber (Reply 13): It is almost unbelievable a nation hasn't signed the Cape Town treaty at this point... |
Quoting JerseyFlyer (Thread starter): The status appears to be a "Heads of Agreement". Suggests some of it will happen, including this year, but precise make up and timing is subject to a lot of further negotiation. |
Quoting mariner (Reply 19): Also, since the US is clearing the way for Boeing to sell to the Iranians (at least, Iran Air) I'm not sure how the US could justifiably stop Airbus. |
Quoting jupiter2 (Reply 20): Where have you heard/seen that |
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Quoting hilram (Reply 22): Am I the only one feeling that this thread´s mere existence relies on all the A380 haters out there clutching at straws, hoping against hope that it can not happen, it will not happen. Maybe they feel they posess some sort of powers to somehow be able to Will the A380 out of existence? |
Quoting jupiter2 (Reply 23): However, in the light of day since, it became clear that the pre-existing U.S economic sanctions still exist. The U.S still considers Iran as a "rogue nation" and until the Americans are convinced otherwise, those sanctions will continue, ie : no American companies or individuals can do business with Iran. |
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Quoting jupiter2 (Reply 25): Still, a lot of water will needs to pass under the bridge before anything manages to arrive in Iran, nothing is simple in the dealings between the U.S and Iran. |
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