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RE: Philippine Aviation 2016

Wed Mar 30, 2016 4:30 pm

Quoting copter808 (Reply 49):
This is what makes it one of the worst airports in the world for transferring between terminals. Makes it REALLY difficult for space-a travelers.

Expansion (if it ever happened) at both wings of Terminal 2 (with an elevated, secure, air-conditioned connector to T1) would minimize that problem. Some clarity regarding this should be forthcoming after the elections.

Quoting copter808 (Reply 49):
Shouldn't be all that difficult to fix if they had a shuttle on the airside that picked up and dropped off from the non-secure sides of the terminal.

That will bypass customs and security checks. Besides, somebody has to pay for the service. The hated ~$11.00 tax could cover it instead. Expensive, but it has to compete for "business" against all comers to exist.


In the meantime, PAL has started DOH while EK is welcomed at CEB.....

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.c...2016/03/emirates-land-in-cebu.html

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/2016/03/pal-flies-doha.html


Other reasons I think that an A338neo is uniquely suited for the country.....

http://static.seattletimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/1fa4997a-f208-11e5-b774-a9c0776f5c77-1020x680.jpg

http://www.seattletimes.com/business...eattle-an-edge-as-gateway-to-asia/


http://airwaysnews.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Slide1.jpg

http://airwaysnews.com/blog/2016/03/...g-787-8-a330-800neo-far-from-dead/


http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...limpse-of-new-cabin-for-a3-423456/

http://www.flightglobal.com/assets/getasset.aspx?itemid=66377

http://www.flightglobal.com/assets/getasset.aspx?itemid=66383


And further to #36.....

http://www.philippineflightnetwork.c...ing-regional-aircraft-options.html
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RE: Philippine Aviation 2016

Thu Mar 31, 2016 6:57 am

More on A330 utilization, Cabin configurations, research and PAL's repositioning insights
http://centreforaviation.com/analysi...rvice-network-airline-model-273820
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation 2016

Wed Aug 03, 2016 9:15 pm

With the format changeover indicating this thread was archived, it's appropriate to append these here now that it's again open for posting. I'll start with the announcement of a new set of officials for the Civil Aviation Authority of the Philippines who will promulgate and enforce policies of the agency for the next six years.....

http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/new-ma ... ting-naia/

Hopefully, the new leadership which is appointed from within the industry, would steer a better course and raise Philippine aviation to new heights.

In line with this, two initiatives are again being revived to achieve these ends.....

http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/airlin ... atization/

http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/local- ... port-plan/

http://www.philstar.com/business/2016/0 ... s-approval


In the meantime, we present here the winning design for the new Caticlan (MPH) airport terminal.....

http://cazarch.com/project/boracay-airport/


Also, ET has launched its new 787-8 service to Manila.....

http://www.mb.com.ph/ethiopian-airline- ... in-manila/

Image.
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It's now a tag-on of ET's 788 service to HKG as opposed to BKK.


Finally, a collection of the latest aviation related tidbits in the country.....

http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/2016/0 ... -airports/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XwdhlYmHL8
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Re: Philippine Aviation 2016

Sat Aug 06, 2016 4:58 pm

Devilfish wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XwdhlYmHL8

August 2016 update.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm9K2fuuQ2k


A look back at previous posts elsewhere.....

Devilfish wrote:
YLWbased wrote:
One fof the easiest way to solve MNL congestion problem is to massively expand CRK and build a Hong Kong Airport Express Type of rail link that connects Clark with Metro Manila.

That would require building a new parallel runway in this area.....

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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... _1989.JPEG

A commuter train link from Malolos to Clark is already in the pipeline but is hampered by conflicting interests. Meanwhile, the MIAA has just broken ground for additional parking apron at the GenAv South Maintenance area enough for at least four A320 type aircraft -- for the exclusive use of 5J. This would free space at T3 for their upcoming widebodies and reduce crowding.

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The existing T4 should be demolished and a new turboprop terminal built midway down Domestic Rd (1st H) after removal of existing structures and re-planning of the General Aviation area.

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http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-PcRC9qgIB3s/V ... nal_fr.jpg

Above photos show how readily T2 could be extended over to the cargo building...and towards Nayong Pilipino once the PVH is demolished. Below shows where an enclosed passenger bridge could connect T1 to the extended T2 over the cargo structure along the yellow barrier fence...while keeping the existing ramp area for aircraft to use.....

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http://globalnation.inquirer.net/files/ ... /plane.jpg

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http://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1503/24888 ... c94e_b.jpg


In the meantime, SMC is mulling opening part of the NAIA Expressway to Entertainment City to traffic in September.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUgliw7wcdI

Lastly, it seems SMC's unsolicited proposal for a new MNL International Gateway is again in play. Unfortunately the planned Light Rail spur to the NAIA does not exactly stop at any of the three terminals.
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Re: Philippine Aviation 2016

Sun Aug 07, 2016 5:40 pm

Devilfish wrote:

It's now a tag-on of ET's 788 service to HKG as opposed to BKK.


ET HKG-MNL? Since When?

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Re: Philippine Aviation 2016

Tue Aug 09, 2016 5:07 pm

Wow, the forums look so different now! :shock:

That said, this might be of interest: P30.4 billion has been allocated for the expansion of ILO. The airport is only nine years old, but it's good they're looking ahead. Plans include expanding the taxiway, adding more parking and expanding the capacity of both the passenger and cargo terminals.

https://ppp.gov.ph/?ppp_projects=operat ... lo-airport
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation 2016

Wed Aug 10, 2016 7:19 pm

YLWbased wrote:
ET HKG-MNL? Since When?

01Aug16 per the linked report.

Akiestar wrote:
Wow, the forums look so different now!

Yeah...I'm still trying to get to grips with the new features.

Akiestar wrote:
That said, this might be of interest: P30.4 billion has been allocated for the expansion of ILO. The airport is only nine years old, but it's good they're looking ahead. Plans include expanding the taxiway, adding more parking and expanding the capacity of both the passenger and cargo terminals.

May have been the result of the unbundling of the six airport projects slated for bidding.

In the meantime, Business Mirror reports that the Government is mulling the privatization of NAIA Terminal 1.....

http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/2016/0 ... -airports/


.....while the Inquirer had a seemingly contradictory piece saying the Government was likely to hold or scale down the modernization of NAIA.....

http://business.inquirer.net/212728/gov ... ack-burner


The latter is very worrisome as a new gateway won't be fully operational for twenty years at least...and the country needs that airport redevelopment ASAP given the recent runway closures!!!

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/803883/air ... ate-planes
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Re: Philippine Aviation 2016

Mon Aug 15, 2016 2:24 am

Devilfish wrote:
YLWbased wrote:
ET HKG-MNL? Since When?

01Aug16 per the linked report.


I think the report is wrong. I'm based out of HKG and have just went through the entire departure record of the past week at the Civil Aviation Department, not a single ET departure was headed for MNL.

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Re: Philippine Aviation 2016

Wed Aug 17, 2016 12:15 am

Some VERY good news for MNL patrons: the NAIA Expressway will partially open next month! The segment connecting Terminals 1 and 2 to Macapagal Boulevard and the CAVITEX will be opened, while the remainder (from Terminal 3 to the opened segment) is set to open by Christmas.

http://news.abs-cbn.com/business/08/15/ ... next-month

I hope the hellish traffic we had to deal with for the last 3-4 years is worth it!
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation 2016

Wed Aug 17, 2016 8:19 pm

Akiestar wrote:
Some VERY good news for MNL patrons: the NAIA Expressway will partially open next month! The segment connecting Terminals 1 and 2 to Macapagal Boulevard and the CAVITEX will be opened, while the remainder (from Terminal 3 to the opened segment) is set to open by Christmas.

http://news.abs-cbn.com/business/08/15/ ... next-month

I hope the hellish traffic we had to deal with for the last 3-4 years is worth it!

My wife and I are contemplating going to the Philippines for the winter, leaving in late October-early November and returning in April (we have to keep it under 6 months so as to not raise red flags when she applies for citizenship.) While we will ultimately be going to DPL we do intend to stop in Manila for a few days to see friends and family there. It would be delightful to see the traffic around the airport eased.
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Re: Philippine Aviation 2016

Thu Aug 18, 2016 10:02 pm

And now the debate rages.....

http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/2016/0 ... airport-2/


But with Japan already committing to fund the Manila to Malolos section of the rail link, only the Bulacan to Pampanga portion to CRK, and that airport's redevelopment remain in limbo. It's a matter of vision and determination...but most importantly time, which the country has precious little of left.
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Re: Philippine Aviation 2016

Sat Aug 27, 2016 7:24 pm

It seems the AdP 8 million pax per year capacity target for CRK could be restored.....

http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/2016/0 ... -terminal/

Quote:
"'The design is free and is modular. We can extend it, that’s why I like it,' said Cauguiran, who toured the BusinessMirror at the existing terminal, which can accommodate 4.5 million passengers annually.

'The previous administration under [former] President [Benigno S.] Aquino [III] reduced the capacity from 8 million passengers annually to 3 million. We want it restored to its original annual capacity,' Cauguiran said.

Under Aquino, the National Economic and Development Authority (Neda) approved the construction of the LCC-PTB, but the planned project failed to take off, due to disagreement over its design.

The design was a grant from the French government and it was coursed through the then-Department of Transportation and Communications (DOTC), headed by Joseph Emilio A. Abaya."



Hopefully, there wouldn't be further hindrances. Unsure if the images below are still representative...don't look very inspiring.....

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Re: Philippine Aviation 2016

Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:59 am

PAL is planning to resume flights to Delhi from Manila via Bangkok most probably in 2017.

http://thestandard.com.ph/business/210073/pal-to-revive-flights-to-new-delhi-via-bangkok.html
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation 2016

Sun Aug 28, 2016 10:42 am

Two days ago, I arrived from HKG at about 8PM into Terminal 3. It has definitely reached a point of insanity. It took 1 hour and 20 minutes to go in the shuttle bus to Resorts World. For those of you that know, this would be a 5 minute walk, in a straight line. It was complete gridlock and things were not moving at all. The gridlock of Terminal 1 from the past, has moved to Terminal 3, but it is actually a lot worse now. While I definitely should have risked my life crossing the street between the hotels and Terminal 3, the rains prevented me from doing this. I really hope the Skyway will alleviate the mess, that is going on here. Traffic around Terminal 3 has become insane and waiting for taxi, can take more than 2 hours, during peak times. President Duterte needs to make fixing the traffic around this airport a top priority. Their small Skyway, will not be enough.
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation 2016

Sun Aug 28, 2016 5:43 pm

crownvic wrote:
Two days ago, I arrived from HKG at about 8PM into Terminal 3. It has definitely reached a point of insanity. It took 1 hour and 20 minutes to go in the shuttle bus to Resorts World. For those of you that know, this would be a 5 minute walk, in a straight line. It was complete gridlock and things were not moving at all. The gridlock of Terminal 1 from the past, has moved to Terminal 3, but it is actually a lot worse now. While I definitely should have risked my life crossing the street between the hotels and Terminal 3, the rains prevented me from doing this.

You were lucky you did not arrive when they closed Rwy 06 due to asphalt pavement coming off or when they diverted flights to CRK because of the weather. Hopefully, here is your (and all others') soon to be salvation...(note that the usual old signs which read "SLOW -- WORKERS CROSSING -- DOWN " have been rephrased... ;) ...

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crownvic wrote:
I really hope the Skyway will alleviate the mess, that is going on here. Traffic around Terminal 3 has become insane and waiting for taxi, can take more than 2 hours, during peak times. President Duterte needs to make fixing the traffic around this airport a top priority. Their small Skyway, will not be enough.

Regarding traffic...the new administration is asking for "special powers" to solve the gridlocks...though it may loosen up considerably around the terminal area when the last portion of the on ramp from T3 is completed in December. We'll see with the next DV NAIA Expressway update (maybe mid-Sep) on YouTube if the general public can get to motor on the actual expressway itself. :|
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Re: Philippine Aviation 2016

Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:37 pm

Is there any time during the day at NAIA that is "better" than any other time?

I empathize with posters above about the traffic situation, it's absolutely horrendous! Last time I arrived at T3 late evening from HKG, there was a taxi queue of biblical length! My girlfriend just hastled a taxi driver who was just unloading and we nicked in like that! I might still be waiting there otherwise!

I do not know any other international airport where there is no dependable way to get to the airport, other than by somewhat undependable taxi!

How the planners could plan and build the MTR lines without taking one into the airport is just beyond belief!
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation 2016

Mon Aug 29, 2016 12:56 am

sassiciai wrote:
Is there any time during the day at NAIA that is "better" than any other time?

Surely you appreciate that there is ongoing major construction around the area?


sassiciai wrote:
I do not know any other international airport where there is no dependable way to get to the airport, other than by somewhat undependable taxi!

Well, now they have a sure way of getting to it in style -- on foot -- :) (rendering minus the elevated roadway) .....

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http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFvxqUxVAAEuWpv.jpg

Not to mention POVs, hotel shuttles, UBER and GRAB Taxi :!:


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How the planners could plan and build the MTR lines without taking one into the airport is just beyond belief!

Easy, not enough money and limited ridership. Be that as it may, the winning bidder will be putting up stations at the NAIAX junctions with MIA Road, Asia World and N. Aquino from where passengers can proceed to their designated terminals and vice versa.....

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http://www.untvweb.com/news/wp-content/ ... ENSION.jpg

LAX didn't have on-airport access either for ages until now that it's extending the existing line, isn't it?

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http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Aw0ayQmCAAA5LrY.jpg


Notice the ramshackle structures along the way :?: .....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm9K2fuuQ2k
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Re: Philippine Aviation 2016

Tue Aug 30, 2016 7:44 am

sassiciai wrote:
I do not know any other international airport where there is no dependable way to get to the airport, other than by somewhat undependable taxi!


MNL is served by several bus lines as well. While I'll admit the city bus network is sub-par compared to what we see in the rest of the world, at least there is a reliable public transport option to there in the absence of a direct rail link. That's also in addition to the MRT shuttle from Terminal 3, plus those expensive "premium" buses operated by Air21 (which really should be priced lower) to Makati.

sassiciai wrote:
How the planners could plan and build the MTR lines without taking one into the airport is just beyond belief!


Remember that back in the 1980s, traffic back then was nowhere near as horrendous as it is now. Perhaps back in the day, the planners of the LRT didn't foresee the need for a direct rail link, or if they did foresee it, they figured that there wouldn't be enough traffic to justify an extension from Baclaran?

Devilfish wrote:
Not to mention POVs, hotel shuttles, UBER and GRAB Taxi :!:


Did the MIAA lift the ban already on GrabCar and Uber picking up and dropping off passengers at the airport? I hope they did.
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation 2016

Wed Aug 31, 2016 12:44 pm

There is trouble afoot at the CAAP: Antonio Buendia, Rodrigo Duterte's pick to head the agency, had resigned just four days into the job. Jim Sydiongco, who's the deputy director for operations, will serve as OIC until his replacement is appointed.

http://www.rappler.com/business/211-gov ... ia-resigns
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation 2016

Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:03 pm

Akiestar wrote:
Did the MIAA lift the ban already on GrabCar and Uber picking up and dropping off passengers at the airport?

Depends on who will be the new decision makers at MIAA.


Akiestar wrote:
There is trouble afoot at the CAAP: Antonio Buendia, Rodrigo Duterte's pick to head the agency, had resigned just four days into the job. Jim Sydiongco, who's the deputy director for operations, will serve as OIC until his replacement is appointed.

Could be related to stories of new appointees protecting the interests of their former employers.


Meanwhile.....

http://business.inquirer.net/214281/cla ... ute-pushed

http://www.philstar.com/business/2016/0 ... w-aircraft

http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2016/ ... ghts-clark

http://www.philstar.com/business/2016/0 ... -pa-ba-dot

http://business.inquirer.net/214199/ceb ... ust-demand
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Re: Philippine Aviation 2016

Sun Sep 04, 2016 6:32 pm

The guesswork about the potential location of MNL's new international gateway continues.....

http://www.philstar.com/business/2016/0 ... rport-soon


This as the chance of a new parallel runway at NAIA becomes extremely remote with the announced start of the C-5 South Link in 2017.....

http://www.philstar.com/business/2016/0 ... -link-2017


In other news, 2P gets a new A321.....

http://www.philstar.com/business/2016/0 ... s-new-a321


While 5J "delays" plan to launch HNL and MEL using the two latest A330s ordered.....

http://centreforaviation.com/analysis/c ... ion-299748
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Re: Philippine Aviation 2016

Sun Sep 04, 2016 7:36 pm

Devilfish wrote:
The guesswork about the potential location of MNL's new international gateway continues.....

http://www.philstar.com/business/2016/0 ... rport-soon


This as the chance of a new parallel runway at NAIA becomes extremely remote with the announced start of the C-5 South Link in 2017.....

http://www.philstar.com/business/2016/0 ... -link-2017


In other news, 2P gets a new A321.....

http://www.philstar.com/business/2016/0 ... s-new-a321


While 5J "delays" plan to launch HNL and MEL using the two latest A330s ordered.....

http://centreforaviation.com/analysis/c ... ion-299748



Thanks for the update!

I hope that the new President can push thru a new airport quickly. It was needed a long time ago. The Cavity option still seems the best to me.

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Re: Philippine Aviation 2016

Mon Sep 05, 2016 5:41 am

sassiciai wrote:
Is there any time during the day at NAIA that is "better" than any other time?

I empathize with posters above about the traffic situation, it's absolutely horrendous! Last time I arrived at T3 late evening from HKG, there was a taxi queue of biblical length! My girlfriend just hastled a taxi driver who was just unloading and we nicked in like that! I might still be waiting there otherwise!

I do not know any other international airport where there is no dependable way to get to the airport, other than by somewhat undependable taxi!

How the planners could plan and build the MTR lines without taking one into the airport is just beyond belief!


Ironically, I flew in and out of Terminal 3 this past Monday (29 August) and it was really clear. It took me 5 minutes to get to Terminal 3 from Resorts World, vs. the horrendous trip just a few days before. The reason was a national holiday, that really freed up traffic. I have found that late morning into early afternoon seems to be lightest times for travel around the airport, but I want to be clear in saying, it just goes from impossible to bad. The worst times are definitely when a lot of the international flights arrive between 8-11PM.
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation 2016

Mon Sep 05, 2016 5:49 am

Devilfish wrote:
sassiciai wrote:
Is there any time during the day at NAIA that is "better" than any other time?

Surely you appreciate that there is ongoing major construction around the area?


sassiciai wrote:
I do not know any other international airport where there is no dependable way to get to the airport, other than by somewhat undependable taxi!

Well, now they have a sure way of getting to it in style -- on foot -- :) (rendering minus the elevated roadway) .....

Image
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFvxqUxVAAEuWpv.jpg

Not to mention POVs, hotel shuttles, UBER and GRAB Taxi :!:


sassiciai wrote:
How the planners could plan and build the MTR lines without taking one into the airport is just beyond belief!

Easy, not enough money and limited ridership. Be that as it may, the winning bidder will be putting up stations at the NAIAX junctions with MIA Road, Asia World and N. Aquino from where passengers can proceed to their designated terminals and vice versa.....

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http://www.untvweb.com/news/wp-content/ ... ENSION.jpg

LAX didn't have on-airport access either for ages until now that it's extending the existing line, isn't it?

Image
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Aw0ayQmCAAA5LrY.jpg


Notice the ramshackle structures along the way :?: .....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm9K2fuuQ2k


OK, help me out...This image seems to be flawed, in many ways. While I was staying on the top floor of the Belmont Hotel this past week, facing Terminal 3, I was trying to figure out how this walkway is going to work. From what I can see and correct me if I am wrong, it appears the entire Skyway is missing from the image, which would completely impede the walkway. I was looking at the construction and was scratching my head, as to how they are going to get over the Skyway, that is already about 30 feet high. According to my calculations, this walkway will need to be nearly 40-50 feet high, in order to safely clear the traffic over the Skyway. What am I not understanding here?
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation 2016

Mon Sep 05, 2016 5:05 pm

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OK, help me out...This image seems to be flawed, in many ways.

Optical illusion...the viewpoint is from above. See the photos in #65.....from below, it doesn't look that way.....

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crownvic wrote:
According to my calculations, this walkway will need to be nearly 40-50 feet high, in order to safely clear the traffic over the Skyway. What am I not understanding here?

They only need a minimum 14-foot clearance from the carriageway surface to the bottom of the overpass structure. Also, the roadway has already sloped down at this point across the McDonald's sign. To show how high off the ground it already is, here's a clearer picture with the covered bridge under construction and the elevated roadway as built.....

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Note how the twin pillars in the rendering transitioned to a massive, round pier when constructed.
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Re: Philippine Aviation 2016

Tue Sep 06, 2016 4:10 am

Devilfish...I am still confused. OK, your last image makes it more clear and it makes sense, but when you go back to the image in question, the St. Therese Shrine, which is at ground level, appears to be level to the roadway. Is this rendering WITHOUT the Skyway? If so, that would explain why I am confused. Thanks for clearing this is up.
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation 2016

Tue Sep 06, 2016 6:12 am

crownvic wrote:
but when you go back to the image in question, the St. Therese Shrine, which is at ground level, appears to be level to the roadway. Is this rendering WITHOUT the Skyway? If so, that would explain why I am confused. Thanks for clearing this is up.

You're welcome. Most renderings do away with superfluous details to focus on the aesthetic qualities of the main subject -- this being the pedestrian bridge. Check out 1:22 and 11:30 of the linked video in #67 closely. Do not expect the final product to look exactly like the rendering though...it tends to vary a bit. I hope that clarifies things much better.
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Re: Philippine Aviation 2016

Wed Sep 07, 2016 5:30 am

Devilfish wrote:
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but when you go back to the image in question, the St. Therese Shrine, which is at ground level, appears to be level to the roadway. Is this rendering WITHOUT the Skyway? If so, that would explain why I am confused. Thanks for clearing this is up.

You're welcome. Most renderings do away with superfluous details to focus on the aesthetic qualities of the main subject -- this being the pedestrian bridge. Check out 1:22 and 11:30 of the linked video in #67 closely. Do not expect the final product to look exactly like the rendering though...it tends to vary a bit. I hope that clarifies things much better.


OK, got it now. Yes, that original image had me completely confused, for obvious reasons. The video did clear it hope though. That walkway bridge will be quite high and should give some good views for about a week, until it gets dirty, never to be cleaned again :)
 
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Wed Sep 07, 2016 3:11 pm

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That walkway bridge will be quite high and should give some good views for about a week, until it gets dirty, never to be cleaned again

Maybe not this time. As I understand it, the hotels and casinos are sharing in the pedestrian bridge's construction and maintenance for the benefit of their patrons. So they have a big stake in keeping it spick and span and have the money to do it. They may assign guards to check that only bona fide guests use it...although I imagine they wouldn't be too strict if other arriving/departing airline passengers avail of the convenience as that would increase their potential clientele. It's likely a stipulation also of their contract with the Government, to be able to put up the structure.
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Thu Sep 08, 2016 10:40 am

Back to aviation...PR is set to receive four more aircraft before the year ends.....

http://www.philstar.com/business/2016/0 ... e-aircraft


The new aircraft will support the airline's expansion and can also help in decongesting NAIA by lessening the number of smaller planes using that airport. However, it is proving quite difficult to get some sectors' cooperation in the matter.....

http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/2016/0 ... t-at-naia/


And for those wanting another mode of transportation from NAIA.....

http://business.inquirer.net/214609/air ... e-launched


According to PhilStar.....

Quote:
"Passengers can board and alight only at the designated hotels and selected business centers.

Along Roxas Boulevard, the designated stops are Midas Hotel, Hotel Jen, Manila Hotel, Mall of Asia and Entertainment City.

In Makati, the stops are Glorietta 4 and 5 and Ascott Hotel. More stops will be named in a few days, David added."
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Fri Sep 09, 2016 9:44 pm

And this is how it looks.....

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I was expecting a lighter purple color. Anyway, being low to the ground, it means passengers will have to take their luggage with them up into the bus.


The upmanship game to be the new international gateway location sees another move played.....

http://www.philstar.com/business/2016/0 ... relocation


In the meantime, AirAsia Philippines eyes return to Clark.....

http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/2016/0 ... llion-ipo/


While Skyjet expects another BAe 146-200 by end October.....

http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/2016/0 ... -to-clark/

Quote:
"Meanwhile, SkyJet will be buying another plane, a British Aerospace 146-200, a 96-seater jet that can do short takeoffs and landings in the limited runways of the country. This brings to three the total fleet of SkyJet, which already uses two BAe 146-100s, seating 80 passengers each. [.....]

While he declined to say how much the Solar Group would be spending to buy the BAe 146-200 from a Peruvian company, a check on the Internet shows second-hand units cost at least $4.5 million (P218.5 million).:


Edit: Source is probably Star Peru. Online check of available frames shows a -300 for $1.2M and a -200 for $1.1M.....

http://www.globalplanesearch.com/bae/pa ... al/146.htm


I was thinking of a frame from CityJet instead. It seems the incident at Balesin is behind them already and they're back in the good graces of the CAAP.
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Fri Sep 09, 2016 10:30 pm

As to getting to T3 with ease-when I was there in 2015 my fiancee and I were going to fly from MNL to DPL on Sunday morning. The flight was at about noon; we were in Bagbag, which is in the north of the city-about 5km north of Roosevelt Station on the LRT. We decided to start at about 4AM, and were planning to go by bus. But as we were waiting for the bus a taxi stopped and asked if we wanted a ride. We asked how much to the airport, and he said about PHP300 (it had cost us PHP2800 for the trip when I arrived.) So we took it, and a trip that would have taken at least 3 hours during the day took 20 minutes, and the fare was about PHP325, as I remember. So early Sunday morning is the best time to get to the airport from just about anywhere. But we have realized that when you go FROM the airport by taxi, go to somewhere nearby (Baclaran would be good) and change taxis. The airport taxis cost much more than anywhere else.
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Sat Sep 10, 2016 2:44 am

Glad to see SkyJet expanding. I have not been on a 146 for several years and want to get on one again. The aircraft types in the Philippines have gotten really boring in recent years (along with the rest of the world!), so seeing more 146's gives us some options. I have been hesitant to fly them, because of questionable operations and past finances, but hopefully that is behind them now. The world's 146 population is dwindling and many are either getting scrapped in Kemble or are being converted to freighters/fire bombers. I would say Star Peru's 146 values are slightly overstated!
 
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Sat Sep 10, 2016 1:19 pm

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The flight was at about noon; we were in Bagbag, which is in the north of the city-about 5km north of Roosevelt Station on the LRT. We decided to start at about 4AM, and were planning to go by bus.

It could be easier once the common station on North Av/EDSA is built.....

http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/2016/0 ... n-station/

.....and this could proceed.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AcnIUoJ50Y

Until then, the NLEX/SLEX Skyway connector under construction is your best bet.


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So early Sunday morning is the best time to get to the airport from just about anywhere. But we have realized that when you go FROM the airport by taxi, go to somewhere nearby (Baclaran would be good) and change taxis. The airport taxis cost much more than anywhere else.

Problem is you do not always get to choose the time and day you travel. Although a fluff piece, below could be a workable solution for space-constrained Metro Manila which would go along PNR's existing unused/underused lines.....

http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/2016/0 ... nsit-woes/

Taking advantage of PNR's existing right-of-way, it may even be a more practical alternative to the very expensive elevated rail link to CRK.
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Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:49 pm

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The flight was at about noon; we were in Bagbag, which is in the north of the city-about 5km north of Roosevelt Station on the LRT. We decided to start at about 4AM, and were planning to go by bus.

It could be easier once the common station on North Av/EDSA is built.....


There is a caveat to that as well. While the LRT/MRT is by far the fastest way to get anywhere in Metro Manila, that is true ONLY once you manage to board the train. During peak times they limit access to the platform, and lines form outside the station. It can sometimes take an hour just to get on the train. When we were there we experienced that once, and from then on we planned our travels to avoid the peak hours (6:00-9:00AM and 4:00-7:00PM were the worst). Since we seldom had to be anywhere at a specific time it worked. The one time we HAD to be at St. Luke's Medical Center at 8:00AM we stayed overnight in a nearby hotel.
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Fri Sep 16, 2016 6:02 pm

Some good news...foremost of which are.....

http://business.inquirer.net/214956/dut ... a-projects

Quote:
"The nine projects approved by the Neda Board last Wednesday are as follows:

*P74.6-billion Ninoy Aquino International Airport (Naia) public-private partnership (PPP) project;

The biggest project to be undertaken via the PPP route was 'the Department of Transportation’s (DOTr) medium-term solution (doable within three years) to improve safety and security, maximize capacity through ‘refreshed’ infrastructure (airside requirements such as air traffic management), and improve passenger service standards in the existing Naia,' Neda said in a statement.

For the Naia development PPP, 'the implementation is through a concession to the private sector for the refurbishing or adding assets for air traffic and land side management, and for passenger services,' while the private sector partner 'will also operate and maintain the airport (both airside and landside) according to international standards (International Civil Aviation Organization, Federal Aviation Administration, etc.),' Neda added.

'The concession period is for 15-20 years, including the design/construction period. The DOTr expects to begin PPP procurement upon Neda Board approval, and award and sign a concession agreement by September 2017,' according to Neda."



A blog said the project would involve the expansion of Terminals 2 and 3...but there's no mention that additional gates would be built and I have yet to see a definite plan for these.


"*P37.8-billion Metro Manila Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) in EDSA;

As for the Metro Manila BRT, Neda said that the DOTr-led project 'aims to provide alternative mass transit in Metro Manila by establishing a BRT system within an EDSA route of 48.6 kilometers covering Monumento up to Diosdado Macapagal Avenue/Roxas Boulevard, with integrated routes between the Ortigas Business District, Bonifacio Global City, and the Makati Business District.'

'The BRT is also planned to link with the Naia terminals and include off-corridors to the target Integrated Transport System terminals in the north, south and southwest of Metro Manila, and in the vicinity of SM Fairview,' Neda said.

According to Neda, the BRT project will involve 'the construction of dedicated lanes with busways, depots, and as much as 63 stations/terminals' within three years starting 2017 until 2019."



This one is a bit 'iffy'...they will be concentrating more people on an already very congested corridor. A good option would be to just maximize capacity and extend the existing MRT on EDSA up to Macapagal Blvd and ensure its trouble-free operations. The money saved could be used on constructing BRTs elsewhere like on Katipunan/C5 and C3/C4 via R10 and Roxas Blvd towards the airport to draw people away from the inner city.

An update on other news.....

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/ ... tober.html

Quote:
"PAL earlier signed a deal with Airbus to acquire six 278 tonne A350-900 aircraft worth $1.8 billion at list price for delivery beginning October 2018, with six options for 280 tonne variant from 2020 as A340 replacement and expansion aircraft for long-haul operations. Two of these frames will be flown daily directly to New York beginning December of 2018.

Bautista said plans for the A350 expansion routes includes major cities in North America and Europe such as Seattle, Chicago, Paris, Frankfurt and Rome. The first A350 is scheduled for delivery in October 2018."



First time I have read SEA being planned.....

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Fri Sep 16, 2016 8:30 pm

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Some good news...foremost of which are.....

An update on other news.....

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/ ... tober.html

Quote:
"PAL earlier signed a deal with Airbus to acquire six 278 tonne A350-900 aircraft worth $1.8 billion at list price for delivery beginning October 2018, with six options for 280 tonne variant from 2020 as A340 replacement and expansion aircraft for long-haul operations. Two of these frames will be flown daily directly to New York beginning December of 2018.

Bautista said plans for the A350 expansion routes includes major cities in North America and Europe such as Seattle, Chicago, Paris, Frankfurt and Rome. The first A350 is scheduled for delivery in October 2018."



First time I have read SEA being planned.....

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http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=MNL-SEA-YYZ& ... 0x360&PM=*


Extending a MNL-SEA flight to YYZ seems like a bad idea as it would require non-ESTA eligible citizens (e.g. Filipinos citizens) bound for YYZ to get a US visa just to travel on the route. While not ideal for Philippine Airlines, the one-stop to YYZ via YVR is better for its customers than one that stops in SEA.
 
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Sat Sep 17, 2016 4:55 pm

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Extending a MNL-SEA flight to YYZ seems like a bad idea as it would require non-ESTA eligible citizens (e.g. Filipinos citizens) bound for YYZ to get a US visa just to travel on the route. While not ideal for Philippine Airlines, the one-stop to YYZ via YVR is better for its customers than one that stops in SEA.

It's a hypothetical exercise. I don't have pax data to hand but I'd imagine most people who would fly on such a service are already holders of American or Canadian passports. Whether the numbers make a separate tag on to YYZ feasible and more profitable than from YVR is for PR to evaluate. Also depends on YVR viability without YYZ and the tag on to JFK only remaining till the A359 nonstops arrive. Lastly, could PR get the route authority? So yes, a few questions which need answers.


Devilfish wrote:
*P74.6-billion Ninoy Aquino International Airport (Naia) public-private partnership (PPP) project;

Back to NAIA...the US$1.6B price-tag could be justified if the finished product would be near half as effective and impressive as this $2.3B stunner.....

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Quite ironic that places with much less traffic get to have these mega projects!


It's understood that MNL would be doing a bit more "substantial" things than just "refreshing" the terminals...but still, past experience had taught people to demand better results.
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Sat Sep 17, 2016 7:06 pm

Missed this.....

http://www.philstar.com/business/2016/0 ... ort-sector

Quote:
"'The UK transport mission is the first of several British business delegations visiting the Philippines in the coming months. It reinforces the UK’s commitment to deepen two-way trade and investment relations,' said Mike Moon, Trade and Investment director at the British Embassy Manila.

Among the UK companies that are part of the transport mission include Aggreko, Arup, Atkins, Arcadis/EC Harris, Foster & Partners, Hawker Sidley Switchgear Ltd, Indigovision, Roughton Group and Smiths Detection.

With its strong global reputation for airports and aviation, UK’s expertise and best practices are seen to be a big help to the Philippines’ infrastructure development which is part of the current administration’s 10-point economic agenda."



NATS' recommendations to address congestion and improve aircraft operations at NAIA, and airspace management in its jurisdictional control are yet to be made public.
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Thu Sep 22, 2016 5:28 am

NAIA Expressway now partially opened for Terminals 1 and 2... :D ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p8qZyJbZ0A

http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2016/ ... pens-today


Apparently, only a few know the public can already use the branches to T1 and T2...though it seems it will be a while yet before people get to use the sections along Andrews Av and Domestic Road.

Kudos to DmitriValencia for exerting the effort to regularly bring us updates of the project. More power to him :!:


Meanwhile...for airline news.....

http://www.atraircraft.com/newsroom/pre ... 01-en.html

Quote:
"Toulouse, September 22, 2016 – Cebu Pacific (PSE:CEB), the Philippines’ largest airline , today took delivery of the very first ATR 72-600 High Capacity. Configured with 78 seats, this brand new option of the ATR 72 has ten additional seats compared to the standard configuration of the aircraft (68). It therefore combines reduced seat mile costs for airlines and world class comfort for passengers."


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Hah.....more people competing for the lavs..... ;)


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Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:04 pm

In other news, PAL is aiming to increase its load factor on the MNL-CNS-AKL route.....

http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/pal-ey ... -december/


Should they achieve that goal, then maybe a 90% load factor could make at least AKL-DVO nonstop viable on an A321LR in the near future... :?: ...


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http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=MNL-CNS-AKL-DVO&DU=nm


From DVO, travelers can fly to paradise in this.....

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Plausible given the DOT's reinvigorated campaign.


And for those who cannot live without their ubiquitous devices.....

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/818448/nai ... til-oct-10
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Sun Sep 25, 2016 6:04 pm

Metro Pacific Group is interested in NAIA's US$1.6B PPP Modernization Project.....

http://business.inquirer.net/215423/mvp ... pp-project

Quote:
"Metro Pacific Investments Corp. is keen on participating in a massive public private partnership (PPP) contract to modernize Manila’s Ninoy Aquino International Airport, the 'crown jewel' of Philippine airports.

Metro Pacific chair Manuel V. Pangilinan said the company was already interested ahead of the release of the bid terms of the P74.6-billion Naia PPP project, which was recently approved by an interagency panel headed by President Duterte.

'This was discussed internally. I said, we would take a look at it,' Pangilinan said.

Details on what the project involved were few at this stage. The Department of Transportation, which is implementing the project, has yet to roll it out for auction. The National Economic and Development Authority board approved the project only last week.

In its initial version under the Aquino administration, the Naia development project was aimed at transforming the Philippines’ main gateway 'into a world-class modern airport facility.' The private partner was also expected to upgrade existing terminals to increase capacity and handle operations and maintenance activities."



This is again shaping up as another battle with the Ayala group and its prospective partners.
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Wed Sep 28, 2016 5:55 pm

As expected, San Miguel Corporation also signify their interest in the Project.....

http://www.philstar.com/business/2016/0 ... aia-upkeep


This as lawmakers question the need to grant emergency powers for the DOTr Secretary.....

http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2016/ ... affic-czar
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Sat Oct 01, 2016 6:58 pm

PAL's first two A359s coming in March 2018 to be used for NA expansion.....

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http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/pal-to ... rbus-jets/

Quote:
"PHILIPPINE Airlines Inc. (PAI) will take delivery of six new wide-body jets from Airbus in 2018, as the national flag carrier aims to further expand its North American market.

PAL Holdings Inc. President and COO Jaime J. Bautista said PAI will use the first two Airbus A350s to increase the capacity of the airliner’s Manila-New York route.

'The initial two will be used for our New York flights,' Bautista said in an interview. 'We have six coming in by 2018, so the others may be used for our Los Angeles and San Francisco flights.'

[.....]

PAL Holdings subsidiary PAI is set to receive the first two A350s in March 2018. The others will be delivered in June, September and December of the same year.

'We will also use them for our Europe flights,' Bautista told reporters. 'We have entitlements to Frankfurt in Germany, Paris, Rome and Amsterdam; but we will have to decide which one to launch first.' At present, PAL only flies to one European destination, London."



The carrier also signed a code sharing agreement with El Al.....

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/ ... -soon.html

Quote:
"Flag carrier Philippine Airlines (PAL) has signed code sharing agreement with El Al Israel Airlines towards the latter's eventual flight to the country expected to commence with thrice weekly services between Manila and Tel Aviv starting next year using Boeing 777-200ER planes.

The MOU would first be applied between El Al flight from Tel Aviv to Hong Kong and Hong Kong to Manila via Philippine Airlines and vice versa.

The Philippines and Israel expanded bilateral air talks in 2014 resulting in 21 weekly flights to any point between the two countries, a government official has said.

[.....]

According to CAB executive director Carmelo Arcilla, the new air agreement replaced the previous air service deal sealed in 1951.

Philippine Airlines applied to operate 14 weekly flights from Manila to Tel Aviv in 2014. The airline last flew to Israel in the 1950s and 1960s via Thailand and India, Arcilla said."



Finally, Metro Pacific and PAL agree to extend benefits to toll road users.....

http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/metro- ... oll-users/

Wonder if SMC would grant the same privileges to upcoming users of NAIAX as it's the most immediate and likely option for travelers as they come out of NAIA's terminals :?:
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Mon Oct 03, 2016 8:04 pm

CAPA cautions on new nonstop, long-haul routes from SE Asia to U.S. mainland.....

http://centreforaviation.com/analysis/s ... ion-303022

Quote:
"Southeast Asian airlines are seeking to capture a larger share of the Southeast Asia-US market over the next few years as they launch new flights to the US. Three of the region’s flag carriers and at least one long haul LCC are planning to launch flights to the US, intensifying competition in an already fiercely competitive market.

[.....]

However, market share gains will likely come at the expense of yields and profitability as competition with North Asian airlines – and to some extent US and Gulf carriers – intensifies. North Asian airlines now account for more than 50% of bookings in the Southeast Asia-US market and have increased their reliance on Southeast Asian connections as they have added US capacity, resulting in very competitive fares."




And now, El KapiTan's AEDC wants to join the fray for the redevelopment and modernization of Manila's NAIA.....

http://business.inquirer.net/216004/tan ... r-naia-ppp


Think it's still fresh in peoples' memories how the first attempt turned out.
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Sat Oct 08, 2016 1:44 am

PAL's latest 77W revealed.....gorgeous... :o ...

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So far..so good..... :D
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Sat Oct 08, 2016 3:06 pm

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PAL's latest 77W revealed.....gorgeous... :o ...

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So far..so good..... :D

I did not realize that they had any more on order. Is this the last one, or are there more coming?
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Sat Oct 08, 2016 5:20 pm

Slick looking B777!

I'm not so sure that PR going to SEA and tagging onto YYZ is a great idea (or a good one). It woud be interesting if they even got the ok from the Canadian gov't for that one. And it would poach traffic from Vancouver as well. When you add in the added pain it would be to transit the US, no, I'd rather not, thank you very much!

If they want to add a Canadian stop, they might consider Calgary - easy to get to, not as congested as YVR, and is (only) 269 miles farther. Would have to think their catchment area is as good as Vancouver - and it is a short hop flight from there as well. Probably cheaper for fees, etc? Smaller aircraft wouldn't need tag on either. Doing a 3x weekly from YYC plus a 4x weekly from YVR, it would add a lot of value to going to Manila. Pity CEB is just a bit too far, though? (6975 is a lot..)
 
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Sat Oct 08, 2016 5:22 pm

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I did not realize that they had any more on order. Is this the last one, or are there more coming?


They have another one coming, both on lease from Intrepid Aviation.
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Sat Oct 08, 2016 5:35 pm

Xiamen Airlines along with Saudia launches flights to Davao.
Well uh, I obviously decided to refine this but i dont know how.

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