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Second 737 MAX Rolls Out

Tue Feb 16, 2016 10:58 am

With a different color scheme:


N8702L Boeing 737-8 Max by Brandon Farris, on Flickr

[Edited 2016-02-16 12:06:39]
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RE: Second 787 MAX Rolls Out

Tue Feb 16, 2016 11:02 am

787 Max?  

Where did this one come from  
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RE: Second 737 MAX Rolls Out

Tue Feb 16, 2016 11:14 am

Oops, I was confused by the 787 livery style  
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RE: Second 737 MAX Rolls Out

Tue Feb 16, 2016 11:24 am

This is 1A002, correct? What happened to the 737MAX production thread?
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RE: Second 737 MAX Rolls Out

Tue Feb 16, 2016 12:02 pm

Great, I will have to wait to see it at day-light but I think I will prefer this livery (and not the one applied for the first prototype).
 
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RE: Second 737 MAX Rolls Out

Tue Feb 16, 2016 1:59 pm

Quoting N14AZ (Reply 4):
I think I will prefer this livery

I agree. Looks very clean and "light". Amazing how paint can affect the look and feel of an aircraft.
 
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RE: Second 737 MAX Rolls Out

Tue Feb 16, 2016 6:44 pm

Quoting ZKOJQ (Reply 3):

This is 1A002, correct? What happened to the 737MAX production thread?

Good question. Maybe it's here and I'm just missing it?

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RE: Second 737 MAX Rolls Out

Tue Feb 16, 2016 8:08 pm

Quoting ZKOJQ (Reply 3):
This is 1A002, correct?

Correct. And just like the first aircraft it is provided with heavy test equipment:


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RE: Second 737 MAX Rolls Out

Tue Feb 16, 2016 8:09 pm

How anyone can prefer this bland mess livery over the other one I'll never understand.
 
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RE: Second 737 MAX Rolls Out

Wed Feb 17, 2016 1:26 am

Love it!

Seems like just yesterday, this was all on paper.

Now we have 3 neo's, 2 MAX's and a C919 all equipped with LEAPs. The LEAP-1A is certified, the 1B is next, the 1C after that...EIS on the neo this year....many more airplanes coming...what a year!
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RE: Second 737 MAX Rolls Out

Wed Feb 17, 2016 1:47 am

needs a nose job and some legs. please somebody find the 757 tooling.
 
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RE: Second 737 MAX Rolls Out

Wed Feb 17, 2016 1:55 am

Quoting PEK777 (Reply 10):
needs a nose job and some legs. please somebody find the 757 tooling.

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RE: Second 737 MAX Rolls Out

Wed Feb 17, 2016 5:12 am

Meh !!!!

As new as 50 years ago.... Could they just change the cockpit windows, for the sake of modernity... (yep I know the type certificate would need to be changed but heck.... as exciting as the Cleveland Browns!)

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RE: Second 737 MAX Rolls Out

Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:42 am

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RE: Second 737 MAX Rolls Out

Tue Feb 23, 2016 5:55 pm

Quoting PEK777 (Reply 10):
needs a nose job and some legs.

The Boeing bullet nose is a classic. If you look at satellite photos of an airport, it is so easy to identify 737s. What is hard is telling the difference between an A321 and a 757-200, especially if the A321 has winglets instead of the fences.

But, I have one question. Are the winglets on the MAX different from the scimitar winglets that I've seen on various versions of the NG? At first glance, they look the same, but looking at video of the first MAX on its initial flight, they look different from the scimitar winglets I've seen on UA and WN 737s.
 
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RE: Second 737 MAX Rolls Out

Tue Feb 23, 2016 6:09 pm

Quoting ckfred (Reply 14):


But, I have one question. Are the winglets on the MAX different from the scimitar winglets that I've seen on various versions of the NG? At first glance, they look the same, but looking at video of the first MAX on its initial flight, they look different from the scimitar winglets I've seen on UA and WN 737s.

Indeed these are rather different. The scimitars get that name as they resemble the rounded/pointy sword shape.
These are squared/ geometric / trapezoid shaped.
Call them trapezoid winglets perhaps ?
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RE: Second 737 MAX Rolls Out

Tue Feb 23, 2016 8:50 pm

Quoting iahcsr (Reply 15):

Indeed these are rather different. The scimitars get that name as they resemble the rounded/pointy sword shape.
These are squared/ geometric / trapezoid shaped.
Call them trapezoid winglets perhaps ?

My understanding is that Boeing calls them the Advanced Technology Winglet

http://boeing.mediaroom.com/2012-05-...ced-Technology-Winglet-for-737-MAX
 
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RE: Second 737 MAX Rolls Out

Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:52 pm

For some reason, I never knew about the MAX 200 (-800) version for high density seating, which comes with an extra exit door. Has anyone purchased this variant? Or can someone point me a thread where it was previously discussed? Just trying to figure out who would be a possible customer besides FR. I wouldn't see WN or WS wanting the plane, as it could cause scheduling, technology, or simplification problems with the rest of the -800/ MAX fleet.
 
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RE: Second 737 MAX Rolls Out

Wed Feb 24, 2016 4:05 am

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 13):
Photo taken yesterday:

Nice pic. Love the I-405 traffic.  

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RE: Second 737 MAX Rolls Out

Wed Feb 24, 2016 4:07 am

Quoting Dallas (Reply 17):
Has anyone purchased this variant?

Yes Ryanair, this version were launched especially for FR.

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/cus...0-airplane-order-from-ryanair.page
 
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RE: Second 737 MAX Rolls Out

Wed Feb 24, 2016 7:07 am

I saw her on the 15th when I was rolling by, looked like a mini 787 with that scheme. The engines looked better than the countless NGs sitting around. Let me see if I can dig up a picture....
 
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RE: Second 737 MAX Rolls Out

Wed Feb 24, 2016 7:19 am

Quoting ckfred (Reply 14):
The Boeing bullet nose is a classic. If you look at satellite photos of an airport, it is so easy to identify 737s. What is hard is telling the difference between an A321 and a 757-200, especially if the A321 has winglets instead of the fences.

   Spot on!

Quoting ckfred (Reply 14):
But, I have one question. Are the winglets on the MAX different from the scimitar winglets that I've seen on various versions of the NG?

Yes, extremely.
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RE: Second 737 MAX Rolls Out

Wed Feb 24, 2016 10:54 am

Quoting ZaphodHarkonnen (Reply 16):
My understanding is that Boeing calls them the Advanced Technology Winglet

How dull a name is that
        
All winglets can be considered advanced tech really
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RE: Second 737 MAX Rolls Out

Thu Feb 25, 2016 8:33 am

OK, I haven't posted for ages. The radome is the same for almost all of the older versions of Boeing aircraft. It is interchangeable among most aircraft.
 
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RE: Second 737 MAX Rolls Out

Thu Feb 25, 2016 8:25 pm

Quoting ckfred (Reply 14):
But, I have one question. Are the winglets on the MAX different from the scimitar winglets that I've seen on various versions of the NG? At first glance, they look the same, but looking at video of the first MAX on its initial flight, they look different from the scimitar winglets I've seen on UA and WN 737s.

The 737NG original winglets were provided by Aviation Partners. The scimitar winglets seen on the SWA/UAL NG fleet (and others) are also by Aviation Partners. The scimitar winglets on the MAX are a Boeing product.
 
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RE: Second 737 MAX Rolls Out

Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:27 pm

The MAX winglets are defiantly not scimitar-ish in appearance.
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RE: Second 737 MAX Rolls Out

Fri Feb 26, 2016 12:04 am

Is it just me or are the larger engines not as noticeable as on the A320NEO or new Embraer E190?
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RE: Second 737 MAX Rolls Out

Fri Feb 26, 2016 3:52 am

Quoting avi8tir (Reply 26):
Is it just me or are the larger engines not as noticeable as on the A320NEO or new Embraer E190?

It's not you, the difference is much smaller:
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RE: Second 737 MAX Rolls Out

Fri Feb 26, 2016 7:31 am

The shape of the engines also helps the look of the 737MAX. The NG engines just looked strange for me with the straight bottom but the more rounded engine suits it better.
 
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RE: Second 737 MAX Rolls Out

Fri Feb 26, 2016 9:26 am

I know the nose wheel has been lengthened, but the Max seems to sit higher than the NG. I enlarged the photo that Karel provided in Reply 13, and it looks to me that the overall diameter of the main wheels is larger.

Do we know for sure that the main wheels have not been increased in diameter? If they are the same as the NG I guess the explanation is just that the aircraft is still quite light.

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RE: Second 737 MAX Rolls Out

Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:10 am

Quoting ZaphodHarkonnen (Reply 16):

They must have had a week long, off-site workshop with the engineers and marketing team to come up with the name "Advanced Technology Winglet" - it's so evocative of the next generation of aviation that it get goosebumps!

A bit surprising, Boeing has a fairly good track record of good branding eg: Dreamliner, SonicCruiser, the iconic 7X7 nomenclature for their aircraft, even going back to the Stratocruiser. These new winglets are probably (maybe) the most distinguishable looking thing on the MAX, to the average flier, I think something like "The Vulcan Winglets" would be better because they look like Mr Spock's split fingered Vulcan salute!
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