badgervor
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AA 1079 Diverting Back To ORD

Wed Feb 24, 2016 10:40 pm

Curious about this flights diversion. I notice thunderstorms moving into the DC area, but why go back to ORD where there is massive delays due to snow/ice?

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL1079
 
n92r03
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RE: AA 1079 Diverting Back To ORD

Wed Feb 24, 2016 10:46 pm

The entire east coast is a mess. There are plenty of resources at ORD. Lesser of the evils.
 
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RE: AA 1079 Diverting Back To ORD

Wed Feb 24, 2016 10:50 pm

It appears that they're not the only one who had the same idea:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/T...4/history/20160224/2100Z/KORD/KORD
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RE: AA 1079 Diverting Back To ORD

Wed Feb 24, 2016 10:57 pm

Where should they divert? BUF? IND? ORD makes the most sense, as they have a huge hub there, United has an even larger hub there and they can figure out alternatives for passengers most easily, not to mention positioning the plane to get it back into the system more efficiently.
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AirCalSNA
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RE: AA 1079 Diverting Back To ORD

Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:00 pm

I would think the main purpose of returning to ORD is so UA doesn't have to provide layover accommodations since a lot of the passengers no doubt live in the Chicago area.
 
Flaps
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RE: AA 1079 Diverting Back To ORD

Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:05 pm

There have been a lot of DCA and LGA bound flights diverting into PIT the past two hours.
 
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RE: AA 1079 Diverting Back To ORD

Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:06 pm

Quoting AirCalSNA (Reply 4):
I would think the main purpose of returning to ORD is so UA doesn't have to provide layover accommodations since a lot of the passengers no doubt live in the Chicago area.

I think that is pretty low on in the equation. Besides, it is a weather divert and they don't contract any responsibility to anyone except top tier elites.
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Flaps
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RE: AA 1079 Diverting Back To ORD

Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:28 pm

Quoting N1120A (Reply 6):
I think that is pretty low on in the equation. Besides, it is a weather divert and they don't contract any responsibility to anyone except top tier elites.

There could be any number of reasons for choosing to go back to ORD. The first that comes to my mind is perhaps the crew is nearing the end of their duty day which would end up stranding the passengers aircraft and crew at an outstation with few options. Going back to ORD in this scenario they at least have a good chance of re-accommodating the passengers on a later bank of UA flights. Would also be easier to obtain a reserve crew to reposition the aircraft.

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RE: AA 1079 Diverting Back To ORD

Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:43 pm

Quoting AirCalSNA (Reply 4):
I would think the main purpose of returning to ORD is so UA doesn't have to provide layover accommodations since a lot of the passengers no doubt live in the Chicago area.

Why would UA be responsible for passengers on an AA flight?
 
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RE: AA 1079 Diverting Back To ORD

Thu Feb 25, 2016 12:06 am

Quoting mmahpeel (Reply 8):
Why would UA be responsible for passengers on an AA flight?

Grrr. I got sidetracked by the post above me and forgot it was an AA flight. Still my post would be the same for either AA or UA.
 
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RE: AA 1079 Diverting Back To ORD

Thu Feb 25, 2016 12:36 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 6):

I think that is pretty low on in the equation. Besides, it is a weather divert and they don't contract any responsibility to anyone except top tier elites.

Actually, if a weather advisory was not posted prior to departure, the airline is responsible for accommodating and/or compensating all of the passengers on the aircraft.
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RE: AA 1079 Diverting Back To ORD

Thu Feb 25, 2016 12:37 am

Remember Kate Haney (sp?) and her passenger bill of rights... airlines do not take any chances anymore of getting anywhere near the 2 hour mark of being on an aircraft on the ground, they just cancel the flights altogether.
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RE: AA 1079 Diverting Back To ORD

Thu Feb 25, 2016 2:21 am

Quoting n92r03 (Reply 1):
The entire east coast is a mess. There are plenty of resources at ORD. Lesser of the evils.

It's not just ORD. Any flight going to DCA is being diverted to airports like IAD(Virgin America, American), PIT(AA), and probably others. They had some bad storms near the airport so that screwed up air traffic just like the winter storm is doing to us here in Chicago.
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RE: AA 1079 Diverting Back To ORD

Thu Feb 25, 2016 2:51 am

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/JBU1198

An A320 weather divert at KBDR? Haven't seen that before..
 
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RE: AA 1079 Diverting Back To ORD

Thu Feb 25, 2016 2:56 am

DCA and BWI both had significant weather delays due to storms
 
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RE: AA 1079 Diverting Back To ORD

Thu Feb 25, 2016 3:01 am

Severe weather moving through the Philly area a little while ago. Lancaster County was particularly hard hit. I just saw some weather reports of chicken houses collapsing and high wind ripping the roofs off of several houses and other structures. The collapsed chicken house reports were from Salisbury Township, which isn't too far from where I live.

Aside from the high wind and possible tornadoes, the rain was almost tropical. I had a stream running through my back yard, and the retention pond near where they finished erecting a warehouse was almost to the overflow point. These storms packed quite a punch!
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RE: AA 1079 Diverting Back To ORD

Thu Feb 25, 2016 5:51 am

Quoting mmahpeel (Reply 8):

Quoting AirCalSNA (Reply 4):
I would think the main purpose of returning to ORD is so UA doesn't have to provide layover accommodations since a lot of the passengers no doubt live in the Chicago area.

Why would UA be responsible for passengers on an AA flight?

If it's raining, neither airline is going to provide accommodations for the passengers no matter where they divert.
 
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RE: AA 1079 Diverting Back To ORD

Thu Feb 25, 2016 8:02 pm

Quoting usflyguy (Reply 10):
Actually, if a weather advisory was not posted prior to departure, the airline is responsible for accommodating and/or compensating all of the passengers on the aircraft.

In what form must the advisory be posted? I've never heard of that rule before.
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n92r03
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RE: AA 1079 Diverting Back To ORD

Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:52 pm

Quoting luv2cattlecall (Reply 17):
In what form must the advisory be posted? I've never heard of that rule before.

Someone may have the actual rule about this, but I have been on flights where the gate agent makes an announcement prior to boarding that addresses the issue. Something like: Passengers of flight 123 to Anytown, please understand there is a weather advisory due to snow or whatever and this airline can/will not be responsible for connecting flights out of Anytown and/or accommodations due to these or any diversions. However we will be happy to assist you now with any rebooking of flights.

Basically saying that if you get on the plane, you are at your own risk and no accommodations will be made be the airline if it diverts or your connecting flight is cancelled.

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