|Quoting mjoelnir (Reply 49):|
It was your source. We are still far from 10%. And somewhere in your source was mentioned 2% difference between the A330-800 and 787-8 in operating cost, 0.5% between A330-900 and 787-9. Yes the size of that market is small, but the A330-200 sold a few into that market last year.
You are selectively reading the article.
"we expect the A330-800neo to come within 2% of the seat-mile economics of present day Boeing 787-8s, and the A330-900 to come within 0.5% of present-day."
By the expected EIS of the A330neo in the fourth quarter 2017, we project that Boeing will gain an additional 2.5% worth of incremental fuel burn improvement on the 787-8, and -9 thanks to weight reduction of 1-1.5% and other initiatives.
Also note that the article is talking about seat mile economics and not fuel burn. 2% seat mile costs is 4% fuel burn per seat. Add to that 2.5% incremental fuel burn and we are right back to where the chart that I posted earlier said.
|Quoting astuteman (Reply 43):|
I'm not sure that I'm reading the same article. The one I read seems to say that the A330NEO IS competitive, rather than it isn't, even allowing for improvements likely to be made to the 787
The article says that the A339 is competitive. It says parity on 3,000 mile routes. While I personally don't really believe that, I am backing up my comments with references and being honest.