|Quoting SSTeve (Reply 164):|
However, your quote here is a bridge to far, in a way. Many many roles have presumed conditions about when and where you have to show up to be compensated that in no way resemble one work location for five days a week.
I think it's ridiculous that crew aren't compensated for delays outside their control. But on the other hand, there's a certain realization that if you're going to be flying, you're not going to be in your own bed every night. It sucks, but it's part of the job. You're "curtailed" in being away from home.
It is an interesting comment you have made, and what has happened to me over my career has been similar to many other in many different airlines. When I started working for a legacy airline, I would fly 500-600 hours a year, would get good layover and was always well rested. We would all put the extra mile in to get the job done, there was a lot of respect for the management, and the management respected us in return. I would say it would be similar to the relationship Herb had with his pilots at WN
had been famous in its early year as being a airline you would want to work for because of the way they looked after you, they wanted you healthy so you would make the valuable contribution to the bottom line.
I have seen a disease infect the industry where MBA types have come in and destroyed the workplace, they have similar attitude as you have mentioned, comparing the productivity of pilots to other office workers. The focus these days is all about shareholder return and management bonuses. That is being done at the expense of the people who have their career with the airline, rather than the managers on a 3 year campaign to make as many cuts as possible to increase their end of year bonus. Why do they care, they are not in the company for a career.
I can turn up for work for a 4 hr flight with an overnight, 11 hours on the ground and fly back next day. At dispatch moved to a 14 hr long haul flight, 18 hours on the ground, 14 hrs back. When I land at my home port, told to be back at work again in 12 hours for another 6 hour flight through the night, rest during the day, and 6 hour back through the night. So what has gone from a reasonable short overnight, turns into week with 5 local nights of sleep are lost. The computer says its legal, it is hardly very smart. I am not allowed to be impeded by substances at work, but they will retask pilots on duties which have scientifically been proved to have the greater performance decrease as consuming 6 or more beers.
The legally binding agreements I started with that protected our work/life balance have all be torn up, fatigue limits are no long just hypothetical "legal" limits they are seen as rostering targets. They were never designed with that in mind, it is literally killing pilots worldwide.
People who are not airline pilots do not realize how bad things have become over the last 10 years. We have gone from sickness rates of below 1% to over 20%. We dont run our engines or machinery at 100% all the time, however the same simple logic is not used on their valuable human resources. Our management in return has decided the best way to fix this is to deliver us 7 days notice of a new absence management policy (no consultation with the employees), pilots who are sick too often now face summary dismissal, that is their solution to reduce the sickness rate. Day 1 of the policy coming into effect 3 pilots were terminated.
I trust this has been an eye opening post for you, the perception and reality of the life of an airline pilot are poles apart. I actively discourage people from entering the industry these days because of the way things have degraded, it is unhealthy and getting worse.
Reading between the lines, the WN
guys are more than happy to fly anything, but they have been taken advantage over now for some time and need to use as way to see their long list of concerns addressed. I fully support them in their efforts, as I know there information war always will portray pilots as being overpaid under-worked privileged Prima donnas. Reality is there is two side to any negotiation.
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