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LHR Slot Allocation Summer 2016

Mon Mar 14, 2016 6:10 pm

The Start of Season Summer 2016 Report by Airport Coordination Ltd has been published on their web site. It includes the distribution by airline of LHR weekly slots

Here are the weekly slot allocations to those airlines where the number of slots for Summer 2016 is different to those in the Start of Season Report for Summer 2015:

Aeromexico: 10 weekly slots in 2015; 12 weekly slots in 2016; +2

Air France: 112; 98; -14

American Airlines: 196; 266; +70 [includes consolidation of US Airways slots]

British Airways:4,921; 5,063, +142 [includes (temporary?) return of Little Red remedy slots]

Delta Air Lines: 166; 152; -14

Emirates: 70; 84; +14

Garuda Indonesia: 0; 10; +10

Kenya Airways: 14; 0; -14

Oman Air: 14; 28; +14

Philippine Airlines: 8; 14; +8

Scandinavian: 272; 244; -28

SriLankan: 18; 14; -4

Swiss International: 168; 166; -2

Tunisair: 28; 14; -14

Thai Airways: 28; 14; -14

Transaero: 28; 0; -28

Turkish: 62; 76; +14

US Airways: 56; 0; -56

Virgin Atlantic: 446; 322; -124 [now excludes Little Red remedy slots]

Vueling: 14; 28; +14

TOTAL: 4620; 4518; -2 [possibly due to increased separation with aircraft size increase]
 
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RE: LHR Slot Allocation Summer 2016

Mon Mar 14, 2016 6:32 pm

Quoting VV701 (Thread starter):

British Airways:4,921; 5,063, +142 [includes (temporary?) return of Little Red remedy slots]

Nice summary 'VV701', thanks for doing the heavy lifting here......

So BA have around 10 additional daily departure slots to utilise and find resources for.

I'm sure they already have this figured out, but do we know which cities will get boosted with additional frequencies, or are we expecting any more new route announcements from BA ?
 
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RE: LHR Slot Allocation Summer 2016

Mon Mar 14, 2016 6:58 pm

Quoting SelseyBill (Reply 1):
I'm sure they already have this figured out, but do we know which cities will get boosted with additional frequencies, or are we expecting any more new route announcements from BA ?

Yes it was all announced a few weeks ago.

BA To Lease 2 JO 737-700's For S16 (by GSTBA Feb 23 2016 in Civil Aviation)
 
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RE: LHR Slot Allocation Summer 2016

Mon Mar 14, 2016 7:17 pm

Quoting VV701 (Thread starter):
TOTAL: 4620; 4518; -2 [possibly due to increased separation with aircraft size increase]

Again, great work VV701. On the last line, there is a bit of a typo. Is the total down by 102 or just 2 as written?
 
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RE: LHR Slot Allocation Summer 2016

Mon Mar 14, 2016 9:59 pm

Thai is more than 14 surely? They have a daily A380 and a 5 weekly B77W scheduled.
Also Kenya Airways haven't pulled out, they're still scheduled to fly summer 2016.
 
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RE: LHR Slot Allocation Summer 2016

Mon Mar 14, 2016 10:10 pm

Quoting VV701 (Thread starter):
American Airlines: 196; 266; +70 [includes consolidation of US Airways slots]

Is AA the largest carrier at LHR behind BA and VS?
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RE: LHR Slot Allocation Summer 2016

Mon Mar 14, 2016 10:13 pm

Quoting boeing773er (Reply 5):

Is AA the largest carrier at LHR behind BA and VS?

I don't think so. LH and SK both has more slots than AA.
 
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RE: LHR Slot Allocation Summer 2016

Mon Mar 14, 2016 10:19 pm

Air canada and United which each have a dozen flights are not listed. a dozen +/-.
 
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RE: LHR Slot Allocation Summer 2016

Mon Mar 14, 2016 11:52 pm

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 7):
Air canada and United which each have a dozen flights are not listed. a dozen +/-.

Air Canada was 11 daily last summer, United were 17 daily.
American were 17 daily and Virgin were 23 daily with Delta at 12 each day, 6 T3 / 6 T4.
 
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RE: LHR Slot Allocation Summer 2016

Tue Mar 15, 2016 12:46 am

Quoting TedToToe (Reply 3):
On the last line, there is a bit of a typo. Is the total down by 102 or just 2 as written?

Thanks. Yes. Should read:

TOTAL: 9,620; 9,618; -2

Quoting boeing773er (Reply 5):
Is AA the largest carrier at LHR behind BA and VS?

No. Both LH and EI will also operate more slots than AA in the coming Summer Season. The LHR Slot Coordinator is reporting that the ten largest airlines at LHR measured by their number of weekly slots as at start of Summer Season 2016 will be:


1) BA: 5,063 (52.6 per cent)

2) LH: 524 (5.4 per cent)

3) VS: 322 (3.3 per cent)

4) EI: 318 (3.3 per cent)

5) AA: 266 (2.9 per cent)

6) SK: 244 (2.5 per cent)

7) UA: 238 (2.5 per cent)

8) LX: 166 (1.7 per cent)

9=) AC: 154 (1.6 per cent)

9=) KL: 154 (1.6 per cent)


Quoting skipness1E (Reply 4):
Thai is more than 14 surely?

Not according to the slot coordinator's web site. I confirm they are reporting 14 slots for TG as at the end of this month.

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 4):
Also Kenya Airways haven't pulled out, they're still scheduled to fly summer 2016.

Again I can confirm that the ACL web site is reporting that they have no operational LHR slots as at the start of the coming Summer Season.
 
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RE: LHR Slot Allocation Summer 2016

Tue Mar 15, 2016 9:30 am

Quoting jghastings (Reply 10):
Some info on the KQ slot:

So thats one less KLM Hopper visitor per day in a warmed up and off peak rotation to may way for the Kenya 787 service.
 
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RE: LHR Slot Allocation Summer 2016

Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:30 am

AF and KL together with DL have muddied the waters in previous years. Then ACL have reported that the usage of some of the individual LHR slots allocated to one of these three airlines were be being used by another. There is no such warning in the Summer 2016 report. This might be a matter of timing or reflect the deal Kenya Airways has come to with KLM. Note here that the report is dated 11 March 2016 while the 'Business Traveller' article in the link provided by jghastings is dated 13 March 2016.

Taking the 'Business Traveller' report into account this is the revised list of the largest ten LHR operators as measured by weekly slots operated at start of Summer Season 2016::


1) BA: 5,063 (52.6 per cent)

2) LH: 524 (5.4 per cent)

3) VS: 322 (3.3 per cent)

4) EI: 318 (3.3 per cent)

5) AA: 266 (2.9 per cent)

6) SK: 244 (2.5 per cent)

7) UA: 238 (2.5 per cent)

8) LX: 166 (1.7 per cent)

9) AC: 154 (1.6 per cent)

10) DL: 152 (1.6 per cent)
 
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RE: LHR Slot Allocation Summer 2016

Tue Mar 15, 2016 12:35 pm

It was a pity that Virgin Little Red did not last.
 
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RE: LHR Slot Allocation Summer 2016

Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:20 pm

Does any airline serve LHR seasonally ?
 
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RE: LHR Slot Allocation Summer 2016

Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:40 pm

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 7):
Air canada and United which each have a dozen flights are not listed.

As stated I initially only listed those airlines where there is a change in the reported number of slots operated when comparing Start of Summer Season 2016 with Start of Summer Season 2015. Twenty (out of 84) airlines fall into this category. UA are reported as operating 238 LHR slots at the start of both the 2015 and 2016 Summer Seasons. The equivalent figure for AC is 154.

The fact that that as many as a quarter of all LHR operators have seen a change in the number of slots they operate in the last twelve months tends to debunk the theory that obtaining LHR slots is next to impossible. Clearly there is a quite active market. Equally clearly, particularly well illustrated by KQ, there are other slots that are not so valuable. However for an airline already in significant financial difficulties I would query the long term value of selling a prime time slot pair and then leasing on a flight by flight basis a pair of significantly less value. However I hope that KW will obtain a sufficient volume of business with a satisfactory yield to help it along a more successful road. But it seems to me a bit like a panic measure. After all there is a good reason why Oman Air was prepared to pay $75 million for a single daily slot pair rather than enter into a leasing agreement with KLM.

Please note that the 84 airlines mentioned above include those who had Summer 2015 slots but none for the coming Summer Season. They are Kenya Airways and Transaero Airlines. It also includes those airlines that had no slots last summer and made an unsuccessful application for slots for the coming Summer Season. They are Libyan Airways and Ukraine International.

The value of LHR slots and, despite the above, the difficulty of obtaining them is illustrated by the applications ACL report receiving for 311 weekly slots that were not awarded. Many existing operators unsuccessfully applied for these slots. They were (with the number of slots denied them):

Aeroflot: 6

Aeromexico: 2

Air Algerie: 2

Air Astana: 6
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Air Serbia: 10

Alitalia: 30

Arik Air: 14

Austrian Airlines: 14

Avianca: 14

Azerbaijan Airlines: 4

British Airways: 1

Bulgaria Air: 4

China Eastern: 20

Delta Air Lines: 16

El Al Israel Airlines: 2

Garuda Indonesia: 4

Japan Airlines: 14

Jet Airways: 28

KLM Royal Dutch Airlines: 14

Kuwait Airways: 12

Libyan Airways: 4

LOT Polish Airlines: 2

Philippine Airlines: 14

SriLankan Airlines: 14

Swiss International: 42

TAP Portugal: 10

Ukraine International: 8

Virgin Atlantic: 2


The small number applied for by both of the British LHR operators suggests to me that they are more aware of what could be a successful application than the number applied for by the likes of AZ and LX. Here, of course, the EU regulation requires that 50 per cent of newly allocated slots must be allocated where possible to newcomers to any slot controlled airport.
 
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RE: LHR Slot Allocation Summer 2016

Tue Mar 15, 2016 3:32 pm

Fantastic work VV701. A great insight into the slot availability and usage of LHR. I always wanted to know this you just provided a one stop shop for this information. Much appreciated.
 
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RE: LHR Slot Allocation Summer 2016

Tue Mar 15, 2016 4:55 pm

Having noted that the slot coordination website has a news item for March 3rd showing a request for operators for the remedy slots for Winter 2016, I had a read of the competition commission document to see if there was a time limit if the slots are unallocated.
It appears that there is not, they have to keep being advertised regardless of any interest.

There is however a clause at the foot of the document whereby if the administrators of the slots and IAG both write to the commission they will reconsider the matter.

How many seasons will they go unallocated before time is called ?
 
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RE: LHR Slot Allocation Summer 2016

Tue Mar 15, 2016 5:42 pm

Quoting VV701 (Reply 9):
Not according to the slot coordinator's web site. I confirm they are reporting 14 slots for TG as at the end of this month.

excuse my ignorance, but is a slot required for arriving and departing?

eg, TG reducing from 28 to 14 indicates drop in flights from 14pw to daily?
 
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RE: LHR Slot Allocation Summer 2016

Tue Mar 15, 2016 5:45 pm

One slot for arriving, one slot for departing. This is where having a odd number of slots per week (as BA does, inherited from BD) is amusing.
 
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RE: LHR Slot Allocation Summer 2016

Tue Mar 15, 2016 8:30 pm

Quoting Andy33 (Reply 19):
having a odd number of slots per week (as BA does, inherited from BD) is amusing

The other operator with an odd number of weekly LHR slots is European Air Transport operating on behalf of DHL. It seemed possible (?) to me that an EAT aircraft flying into or out of LHR on behalf of DHL flew out of or into LHR operating a freight flight for BA or, these days, IAG Cargo (which would still likely be BA).

However as Andy 33 rightly points out the 'odd' BA slot was inherited from BD. So the above is an unlikely explanation.

At least in theory if this BA slot is an arrival slot and BA used all its slots in line with the rules then its whole fleet operating out of LHR would eventually be grounded there! Of course if it is a departure slot we would eventually have an LHR without a single BA plane in sight!

This silly analysis is confirmed by a revelation in the ACL report that I have already mentioned. That is that BA applied to the slot coordinator for just a single slot while every other applicant sort one or more slot pairs.

So does anyone know the real reason for this apparently anomalous situation?
 
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RE: LHR Slot Allocation Summer 2016

Tue Mar 15, 2016 8:35 pm

Quoting SelseyBill (Reply 1):
I'm sure they already have this figured out, but do we know which cities will get boosted with additional frequencies, or are we expecting any more new route announcements from BA ?

If you have not already seen it I think this thread probably answers your question:

BA LHR Shorthaul S16 Schedule Changes (by GSTBA Mar 15 2016 in Civil Aviation)
 
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RE: LHR Slot Allocation Summer 2016

Tue Mar 15, 2016 8:39 pm

Quoting Andy33 (Reply 19):
One slot for arriving, one slot for departing. This is where having a odd number of slots per week (as BA does, inherited from BD) is amusing.

Perhaps why BA applied for one new.
 
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RE: LHR Slot Allocation Summer 2016

Tue Mar 15, 2016 9:18 pm

Quoting VV701 (Reply 15):

Interesting that JL applied for 7 slot pairs. I guess it would have been a second daily HND flight, although I am not sure if the HND daylight slot allocation would permit this. If not, maybe a reinstatement of NRT, although JL already codeshares with BA here. Even less likely, a reinstatement of KIX!

Are the applications made public?
 
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RE: LHR Slot Allocation Summer 2016

Tue Mar 15, 2016 9:42 pm

Quoting UAEflyer (Reply 14):
Does any airline serve LHR seasonally ?

AC St Johns used to be a few months only.
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RE: LHR Slot Allocation Summer 2016

Tue Mar 15, 2016 9:49 pm

Quoting winterlight (Reply 24):

AC St Johns used to be a few months only.

Edmonton went seasonal too but no airline I can think of is seasonal at LHR, you need to use the slots or lose them.
 
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RE: LHR Slot Allocation Summer 2016

Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:30 am

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 25):
no airline I can think of is seasonal at LHR, you need to use the slots or lose them.

I can't think of any airline that is seasonal either, but the reason isn't solely the slot system.
Slots are allocated separately for IATA summer season and IATA winter season and the 80% rule applies to the season the slots are allocated for. In fact there are more available slots in the summer season than in the winter as some are suppressed in the winter to improve resilience in poor weather conditions.
 
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RE: LHR Slot Allocation Summer 2016

Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:40 am

Quoting winterlight (Reply 24):
Quoting UAEflyer (Reply 14):
Does any airline serve LHR seasonally ?

AC St Johns used to be a few months only.

It's been all-year for the past two years, but not daily. Currently 3 x week. I wonder if that means they have a daily slot but they lease it out for the other 4 days during the winter?
 
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RE: LHR Slot Allocation Summer 2016

Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:48 am

I am pretty sure that there is no seasonal airline operating at LHR. But there are a large number of seasonal flights. For example the thread linked in Reply 21 of this thread lists five new seasonal services that BA are launching this summer. They are to Biarritz, Chanai, Kalamata, Mahon and Palermo. It also lists a whole host of existing destinations to which BA will operate additional season flights from late April or early May until September or October.

[Edited 2016-03-16 03:49:50]
 
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RE: LHR Slot Allocation Summer 2016

Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:55 am

Aegean moves one flight to Gatwick in the winter season then back to Heathrow in the summer
 
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RE: LHR Slot Allocation Summer 2016

Wed Mar 16, 2016 8:25 pm

Air Transat used to have a Summer seasonal LHR service didn't they?
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RE: LHR Slot Allocation Summer 2016

Wed Mar 16, 2016 8:53 pm

Quoting Humberside (Reply 30):
Air Transat used to have a Summer seasonal LHR service didn't they?

Not to LHR...LGW I think
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RE: LHR Slot Allocation Summer 2016

Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:18 pm

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 31):
Not to LHR...LGW I think

TSC had a summer only schedule to LHR for a few years which stopped a couple of years ago
 
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RE: LHR Slot Allocation Summer 2016

Thu Mar 17, 2016 3:51 am

Quoting fcogafa (Reply 32):
Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 31):
Not to LHR...LGW I think

TSC had a summer only schedule to LHR for a few years which stopped a couple of years ago

Yes, twice a week.
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RE: LHR Slot Allocation Summer 2016

Thu Mar 17, 2016 4:04 pm

Did Tunisair used to have slots for 28 weekly flights in 2015 and 14 were withdrawn to make it only 14 this year?! The airline is not even flying half of that i.e. 7 weekly flights or a daily service, but London remains daily though split between LGW and LHR. If they have rights to Heathrow why would they fly to Gatwick! Why not selling some of the Heathrow's?!
 
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RE: LHR Slot Allocation Summer 2016

Thu Mar 17, 2016 6:24 pm

How many slots does Qantas have?

is it just 4, or do they lease some out while they're not using them?
 
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RE: LHR Slot Allocation Summer 2016

Fri Mar 18, 2016 12:55 am

Quoting 6thfreedom (Reply 35):
How many slots does Qantas have?

Twenty-eight weekly slots. Equivalent to the four daily slots you suggest.
 
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RE: LHR Slot Allocation Summer 2016

Fri Mar 18, 2016 2:22 am

Quoting VV701 (Thread starter):
British Airways:4,921; 5,063, +142 [includes (temporary?) return of Little Red remedy slots]

Just a quick question re BA short-haul ops;

BA970/971 Hannover rotation is......

LHR 21:10 - 23:35 HAJ
HAJ 06:15 - 06:50 LHR

only 6 hours in Hannover seems like a short break for an overnight; or are the crews still effectively 'on duty' in HAJ ?
 
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RE: LHR Slot Allocation Summer 2016

Fri Mar 18, 2016 2:41 am

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 25):
Edmonton went seasonal too but no airline I can think of is seasonal at LHR, you need to use the slots or lose them.

The YEG AC slot was partially used seasonally last year from YYC. This year it's being used for the second daily YVR.
 
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RE: LHR Slot Allocation Summer 2016

Fri Mar 18, 2016 7:06 am

Quoting SelseyBill (Reply 37):
Just a quick question re BA short-haul ops;

BA970/971 Hannover rotation is......

LHR 21:10 - 23:35 HAJ
HAJ 06:15 - 06:50 LHR

only 6 hours in Hannover seems like a short break for an overnight; or are the crews still effectively 'on duty' in HAJ ?

The shorthaul crew workings are extremely intricate, and change every time the timetable alters. It is highly likely that the crew for the 06:15 departure arrives on one of the two earlier flights the day before - BA976 arriving 10:30 or BA978 arriving 20:40. Crews don't just do out and back the same day or out one day back the next, there are some multi-day trips too.
 
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RE: LHR Slot Allocation Summer 2016

Fri Mar 18, 2016 7:49 am

Quoting VV701 (Thread starter):
Philippine Airlines: 8; 14; +8

8+8=14? That looks like a calculation error  
Quoting VV701 (Reply 15):
The value of LHR slots and, despite the above, the difficulty of obtaining them is illustrated by the applications ACL report receiving for 311 weekly slots that were not awarded. Many existing operators unsuccessfully applied for these slots. They were (with the number of slots denied them):

Delta Air Lines: 16
Swiss International: 42


I don't understand this. According to you OP, both DL and LX released some slots, and here it says that they asked for more. I am sure this is just me where I simply don't understand the slot allocation process. Maybe someone can clarify.
 
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RE: LHR Slot Allocation Summer 2016

Fri Mar 18, 2016 9:37 am

Quoting mozart (Reply 40):
I don't understand this. According to you OP, both DL and LX released some slots, and here it says that they asked for more. I am sure this is just me where I simply don't understand the slot allocation process. Maybe someone can clarify.

Slots are based on fixed times and day of the week, and airlines trade slots either by selling them or leasing them.
So you could imagine an airline disposing of slots at a time or on a day they found unsuitable, and at the same time requesting ones at times/days that suited them better. It is also possible that leased slots are reclaimed by the airline that owns them, and the airline that has been using them up to then then applies for slots from the coordinator to continue operations.
I think, though others may correct me, that the Delta change is due to slots being leased to Virgin Atlantic, which is masked by Virgin Atlantic returning the short haul "remedy" slots used by Little Red to BA, so both DL and VS show a reduction.
 
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RE: LHR Slot Allocation Summer 2016

Fri Mar 18, 2016 10:29 am

Who owns American's additional 14 (70) slots? Is British returning them? I seem to remember AA transferring slots to BA in the past?
 
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RE: LHR Slot Allocation Summer 2016

Sat Mar 19, 2016 1:04 pm

Quoting uberflieger (Reply 42):
Who owns American's additional 14 (70) slots? Is British returning them? I seem to remember AA transferring slots to BA in the past?

Part of the AA increase will be the fact that they transferred one JFK service and slot pair to BA temporarily. These have now returned with their improved aircraft availability with the additional 77W deliveries.
 
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RE: LHR Slot Allocation Summer 2016

Sat Mar 19, 2016 1:53 pm

Quoting rutankrd (Reply 43):
Part of the AA increase will be the fact that they transferred one JFK service and slot pair to BA temporarily. These have now returned with their improved aircraft availability with the additional 77W deliveries.

One daily slot pair equals 14 slots, so that's the increase taken care of.
The remaining 56 are a straight transfer from US Airways to AA as the merger took effect.
 
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RE: LHR Slot Allocation Summer 2016

Sun Mar 20, 2016 3:27 pm

Quoting Andy33 (Reply 39):
Quoting SelseyBill (Reply 37):Just a quick question re BA short-haul ops;

BA970/971 Hannover rotation is......

LHR 21:10 - 23:35 HAJ
HAJ 06:15 - 06:50 LHR

only 6 hours in Hannover seems like a short break for an overnight; or are the crews still effectively 'on duty' in HAJ ?
The shorthaul crew workings are extremely intricate, and change every time the timetable alters. It is highly likely that the crew for the 06:15 departure arrives on one of the two earlier flights the day before - BA976 arriving 10:30 or BA978 arriving 20:40. Crews don't just do out and back the same day or out one day back the next, there are some multi-day trips too.

Thanks 'A-33' for the reply, I have quite a number of questions regarding BA LHR ops, so probably best I start a new thread......

Hadn't anticipated that BA would be 'stepping crews back' on Europe ops......
 
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RE: LHR Slot Allocation Summer 2016

Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:05 am

Quoting Andy33 (Reply 39):
The shorthaul crew workings are extremely intricate, and change every time the timetable alters. It is highly likely that the crew for the 06:15 departure arrives on one of the two earlier flights the day before - BA976 arriving 10:30 or BA978 arriving 20:40. Crews don't just do out and back the same day or out one day back the next, there are some multi-day trips too.
Quoting SelseyBill (Reply 37):
Just a quick question re BA short-haul ops;

BA970/971 Hannover rotation is......

LHR 21:10 - 23:35 HAJ
HAJ 06:15 - 06:50 LHR

only 6 hours in Hannover seems like a short break for an overnight; or are the crews still effectively 'on duty' in HAJ ?


6 hours on the ground, overnight, would not be really safe. I'd imagine they have the crew that arrives at 20:40 overnight and run the early. They could dead head the 23:35 crew back or have them run the 10:30 departure.

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 27):
It's been all-year for the past two years, but not daily. Currently 3 x week. I wonder if that means they have a daily slot but they lease it out for the other 4 days during the winter?

Under the 80% rule, they can average it out when they are running dailies.
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RE: LHR Slot Allocation Summer 2016

Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:19 am

This issue about odd numbers of slots.

Could you fly in late Sunday, overnight anf fly out early Monday.
 
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RE: LHR Slot Allocation Summer 2016

Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:14 am

Quoting bennett123 (Reply 47):
This issue about odd numbers of slots. Could you fly in late Sunday, overnight anf fly out early Monday.

Yes; we explored this issue in a previous thread; its probably something like a departure slot late in the evening on the last day of Summer '16 accounting period, with a balancing arrival on the morning on the first day of w16/17.
 
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RE: LHR Slot Allocation Summer 2016

Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:15 pm

Quoting SelseyBill (Reply 48):
Yes; we explored this issue in a previous thread; its probably something like a departure slot late in the evening on the last day of Summer '16 accounting period, with a balancing arrival on the morning on the first day of w16/17.

I do not think so. Remember these are WEEKLY slots. So according to ACL BA have 4,921 slots EVERY WEEK in Summer Season 2016, not just in the last week of the season.

Similarly European Air Transport operating for DHL are reported by ACL as having (a balancing) odd number of weekly LHR slots. They are reported as having 25 weekly LHR slots.

Also note that this is not just an anomaly in the upcoming Summer Season. It also extends back through previous seasons Indeed it goes right back to beyond BA's purchase of the previous owner of this odd number of weekly slots, BD. At the start of Summer Season 2012, literally days before the BA purchase, BD were reported as holding 461 weekly LHR slots. At that time the balancing 'odd' slot was still operated by European Air Transport who then were reported to operate 27 weekly LHR slots.

If you go back even further to the ACL report for the start of Summer Season 2008 you will find that BD had 1,087 weekly LHR slots. Again the apparently balancing slot was held by European Air Transport. They still had 27 weekly LHR slots at that time.

The ACL reports prior to 2008 do not include listings of all airlines' slot numbers but it seems likely that this situation is more than ten years old.

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