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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 64

Thu Apr 14, 2016 3:29 am

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 47):
Why GRU and not CGH?

They must be connected to CM PTY-GRU 28x weekly.




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Quoting yellowtail (Reply 49):
Doesn't BA go to 3xsjo?

April 27: BA LGW-SJO 2x weekly. First flight
October 30: BA LGW-SJO 2x to 3x weekly.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 64

Thu Apr 14, 2016 9:00 am

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 49):
Doesn't BA go to 3xsjo?

2x weekly during the summer and 3x in the winter.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 64

Thu Apr 14, 2016 4:22 pm

http://corporate.airfrance.com/en/pr...rance-destination-in-costa-rica-1/

As from 2 November 2016 and throughout the 2016-17 winter season, Air France will offer two new weekly services to San José (Costa Rica) on departure from Paris-Charles de Gaulle. The flights will be operated by Boeing 777-300 with a capacity of 468 seats – 14 in Business, 32 in Premium Economy and 422 in Economy.

Flights are departing CDG Wednesdays and Saturdays.

AF 430 CDG-SJO 13:45-18:10
AF 431 SJO-CDG 20:40-13:50 +1

I believe this will be the first time ever a 77W will fly at all to SJO, so I'm very excited about it. I hope the flight will be successful enough to go yearround.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 64

Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:08 am

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 52):
Air France will offer two new weekly services to San José (Costa Rica) on departure from Paris-Charles de Gaulle.

SJO recently modified two of their boarding gates to accomodate comfortably to their long-haul equipments represented by IB MAD-SJO 7x weekly and BA LGW-SJO 2x-3x weekly soon.
AF CDG-SJO is intending to operate that route on Saturdays. I found a trouble: three wide-bodies will be parked simoultaneosly at SJO.
I've just noticed how the 346 stopped briefly all the operations during the take-off procedure on IB SJO-MAD.
Imagine how caotic will be three wide-bodies trying to leave SJO on Saturday afternoons.
As a side note, British Airways already flew to SJO around 2001 with 777 equipment; probably with 772.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 64

Fri Apr 15, 2016 2:26 am

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 52):
Air France will offer two new weekly services to San José
Quoting viaggiare (Reply 48):
WN LAX-LIR-LAX 73G (1x daily) started yesterday 4/12
BA LGW-SJO-LGW 772 (2x weekly) starts 4/27
G2 CCS-SJO-CCS 735 (3x weekly) starts 5/2

AF CDG-SJO-CDG 77W (2x weekly) starts 11/2.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 64

Fri Apr 15, 2016 3:06 am

I remember Air France promoting the SJO-CDG 7x weekly service in 2004 or so. It never happened.
When KL AMS-PTY resumed their services in 2008, that was the end for any attempt called AF SJO-CDG, in those days.
If I recall correctly, two advertising walls were installed: SJO and Parque de la Paz.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 64

Fri Apr 15, 2016 4:06 pm

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 53):
British Airways already flew to SJO around 2001 with 777 equipment; probably with 772.

I know, that service was previously operated by DC-10s that used to be from British Caledonian. And I also know LA brought a 77L to SJO some time ago, but the 77W will be a genuine novelty in Costa Rica.  
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 64

Sat Apr 16, 2016 5:47 am

http://www.larepublica.net/noticia/a..._costa_rica_volaria_en_tres_meses/

Air Costa Rica has finished stage 3 of certification by DGAC (?) and are starting stage 4 (training, general courses, certification flights) soon. They expect to start commercial service in 3 months.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 64

Sun Apr 17, 2016 11:44 am

DE MUC-SJO-MUC 763 (1x weekly, via SDQ) starts 11/7 (FRA-SJO-FRA, via SDQ remains 3x weekly)
PU MAD-SJO-MAD 343 (2x weekly; seasonal charter) starts in July; exact date tba.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 64

Mon Apr 18, 2016 2:49 am

CM PTY-BOS 7x weekly and CM PTY-ORD 7x weekly will once again reduce their services during the slow season: September, October and November.
Their weekly frequencies are whether listed as 4x, 5x, or 6x weekly.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 64

Wed Apr 20, 2016 5:18 pm

http://aircanada.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=1003

AC is starting up YUL-SJO twice weekly seasonal service this winter starting December 22, 2016 and operating until April 16, 2017, subject to government approval. It will be operated by a Rouge 767 Thursdays and Sundays.

AC 1844 YUL-SJO 07:40-12:14
AC 1845 SJO-YUL 13:35-19:47
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 64

Thu Apr 21, 2016 3:39 am

London Gatwick is getting a decent coverage to Europe on BA.
That being said, BA LGW-SJO is not only oriented to the O&D traffic once in London.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 64

Sun Apr 24, 2016 5:02 pm

BA returns to Costa Rica in three days, after a lengthy absence, with the 2050Z arrival of flight 2137.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 64

Sun Apr 24, 2016 6:04 pm

RAH bankruptcy looks like it is going to affect AAs plans in the region. Those 175 are going to be parked / returned to lessors. We already seeing some of the new 175 routes (that were mainline) being trimmed (like LIR)
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 64

Mon Apr 25, 2016 1:22 am

Quoting Yellowtail (Reply 63):

Let us hope OO takes those routes!
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 64

Mon Apr 25, 2016 2:37 pm

Quoting MGASJO (Reply 64):
Let us hope OO takes those routes!

Needs over water equipped aircraft. I don't believe OOs aircraft are.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 64

Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:52 pm

Quoting Yellowtail (Reply 65):
Needs over water equipped aircraft. I don't believe OOs aircraft are.

They are not. Just wishful thinking.
BTW, RAH is returning 170s to lessors, still no 175s going back, but they did remove them from the LIR schedules, they are still on the PTY route
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 64

Wed Apr 27, 2016 9:33 pm

G-YMMR has landed @SJO.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 64

Wed Apr 27, 2016 11:59 pm

Here's the 772 docked at SJO and featuring the Costa Rican national flag from the cockpit.



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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 64

Thu Apr 28, 2016 3:11 am

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 64

Thu Apr 28, 2016 3:30 am

This is fantastic news. Any word o how the loads were? How are forward bookings looking? How many connections does BA actually offer at LGW?
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 64

Fri Apr 29, 2016 2:25 am

Both Y4 GDL-SJO and Y4 CUN-SJO will increase their services from 2x to 3x weekly. Effective: May 15.
Service switches to 319 from June 01.




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Quoting avi8 (Reply 70):
Any word o how the loads were? How are forward bookings looking?

It's too early to predict this behavior.  
However, BA LGW-SJO goes from 2x to 3x weekly. Effective: October 30.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 64

Sat Apr 30, 2016 8:56 pm

The TACA brand by itself is slowly disappearing from the map.
Those planes involved at TACA are now registered under a new brand from March 31: Avianca Central America.
They're based in El Salvador.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 64

Fri May 06, 2016 2:02 am

TK finally arrived in Panama yesterday:
http://impresa.prensa.com/economia/P...a-acerca-Turquia_0_4476302350.html

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 64

Sun May 08, 2016 9:44 pm

From the last press release:

"Tras despegar de la capital turca, el vuelo llegó 13 horas después a Bogotá."

Istanbul is not the capital city of Turkey...  
Anyways, it's a good sign the load occupancy of 70% from the very beginning.
I'd hopefully expect new ways of cooperation between Copa Airlines and the European airlines involved in Star Alliance.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 64

Mon May 09, 2016 1:11 am

Inaugural flight was on a 77W and today changed to a A332

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Mon May 09, 2016 1:17 am

 
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 64

Mon May 09, 2016 1:46 am

Picture of Albatros Airlines docked at SJO on May 02nd and ready for the SJO-CCS segment.
This rare 737-500 is operating since October 1997.
Registered as YV3001 and nick-named: "Esmeralda."



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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 64

Wed May 11, 2016 2:19 am

"Volaris Costa Rica and Holiday Air moving in the certification process to become the next Costa Rican airlines to operate commercial flights and join Air Costa Rica, which received the approval to take off from the end of 2015, but still doesn't start their services."

Source: La Nacion. May 10th 2016.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 64

Wed May 11, 2016 4:16 am

I hope that whatever the delay, that this isn't something political by MOPT in order to protect whatever is left of AV's former SJO hub or something. I hope it isn't a revival of the old parrot cartel.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 64

Wed May 11, 2016 1:11 pm

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 79):
I hope it isn't a revival of the old parrot cartel.

Revival implies death. The cartel is somewhat alive.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 64

Wed May 11, 2016 11:57 pm

AV could've dismantled forever the extinct hub of the former TA at SJO.
I never understood how some profitable routes were abandoned for them in the past: SJO-MIA, SJO-MEX and so forth.
I guess now it's time for a new impulse given by a new Costa Rican airline base at SJO. Only time will tell.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 64

Fri May 13, 2016 11:30 pm

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 81):
I never understood how some profitable routes were abandoned for them in the past: SJO-MIA, SJO-MEX

Two routes that were flown by LACSA since 1950 using Curtiss C-46 Commandos based at La Sabana airfield. But their product deteriorated so much during the long, dark night of the cartel era, and the reverse Midas touch of its infamous, narcissistic silver-spoon boss, that even traditional flagship routes suddenly weren't sustainable anymore.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 64

Sat May 14, 2016 12:10 am

"Somos una realidad nacional. Somos la primer [sic] aerolínea costarricense del siglo XXI" — We are a national reality. We are the first Costa Rican airline of the 21st century, said Air Costa Rica general manager Carlos Víquez.

Primer avión de Air Costa Rica se pintará de tico este 16 de mayo (link in Spanish)

Mr. Víquez added that the first of two 733s "será pintada toda de blanco, llevará el distintivo de Air Costa Rica en azul y rojo, los colores de la bandera de Costa Rica en la cola y la matrícula TI" — will be painted all-white, airline logo in blue and red, national flag colors on the tail fin.. and TI registration! (that alone ought to make the local taxman happy).

Flights to GUA are planned for November, followed by scheduled service to PAC and BOG, then charter flights to PUJ, RTB, ADZ, and CTG. Later on, MIA. Two F100s will be brought in for intra-CentAm routes.

[Edited 2016-05-13 17:33:52]
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 64

Sat May 14, 2016 6:05 am

Wait a minute, the aircraft are getting Tango India registrations after all? That's awesome! I presume though, that it's either done out of national pride (as in e.g.: Costa Rica's first startup since AeroCostaRica must have TI- registrations to display even more its connection to the country), or they got some kind of tax break from the government (which is more unlikely, because LGS wants to raise taxes, not cut them).

If Air Costa Rica does as well as Air Panama does, there's lots of hope yet.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 64

Sat May 14, 2016 1:12 pm

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 84):
Costa Rica's first startup since AeroCostaRica must have TI- registrations to display even more its connection to the country

When the former TACA took delivery of their brand new E90s in 2008, those planes featuring the Costa Rican flag bore the TI designator for a little while: TI-BCF, TI-BGC, TI-BCH and TI-BCI.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 64

Sat May 14, 2016 4:18 pm

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 85):
When the former TACA took delivery of their brand new E90s in 2008, those planes featuring the Costa Rican flag bore the TI designator for a little while: TI-BCF, TI-BGC, TI-BCH and TI-BCI.

I know. I saw many of them in person on my trips to La Candela.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 64

Tue May 17, 2016 12:20 am

Air Costa Rica announces the first scheduled destination: Guatemala City from October.
Furthermore, some charter flights are being programmed to San Andres Island and Port au Prince, in the second half of the year.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 64

Tue May 17, 2016 4:11 am

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 87):
charter flights are being programmed to San Andres Island and Port au Prince

PAP would be of interest to soccer fans attending the September 2nd World Cup qualifier against Haiti.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 64

Thu May 19, 2016 2:31 am

Quoting viaggiare (Reply 88):
PAP would be of interest to soccer fans attending the September 2nd World Cup qualifier against Haiti.

That's the point, my friend.  
Air Costa Rica would be interested in participating with charter flights to Port au Prince, given the unusual high demand of passengers soon.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 64

Sun May 22, 2016 9:58 pm

Any indication on the next North American destinaton for CM .?
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 64

Sun May 22, 2016 10:41 pm

The 733 belonging to Air Costa Rica is featuring their color-scheme.



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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 64

Mon May 23, 2016 12:00 am

Quoting CM767 (Reply 90):
Any indication on the next North American destination for CM .?

UA dropped DEN-PTY, doubtful it'll return December-March. So that leaves DEN as a potential CM destination.
PHX isn't an StarAlliance (UA) hub but it might be on CM radar.
BNA and RDU have been after some kind of Latin American service so those airports might already have made contact with CM.
There were also rumors about PHL and even JAX.
CM flying to HOU before WN makes to PTY? Who knows, the E190 has the range and is now used to fly to continental U.S. (PTY-FLL).
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 64

Mon May 23, 2016 12:42 am

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 92):
CM flying to HOU before WN makes to PTY?

Interesting !
Some like the situation in New York City area: UA EWR-PTY plus CM PTY-JFK.

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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 64

Mon May 23, 2016 1:30 pm

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 92):
CM flying to HOU before WN makes to PTY? Who knows, the E190 has the range and is now used to fly to continental U.S. (PTY-FLL).

CM does fly the E190 on PTY MSY from time to time. I have flown the aircraft. Its pretty comfy.
Much better than an AC CR7 for 4 hours on YYC-IAH thats for sure.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 64

Mon May 23, 2016 1:42 pm

Thanks for the responses, I was looking at possible destinations, I was surprised to see that PHX is one of the largest population centers on North America and yet has limited international service outside Canada and Mexico.

I believe that the next destination could be to Tijuana or San Diego
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 64

Mon May 23, 2016 1:56 pm

My guess is that we could also see DFW being announced, maybe PHL and ATL. I sometimes fail to grasp CM's longterm plans. I sometimes get the impression that they are running out of cities to announce given the preference for larger gauge aircraft (737-800) while reducing the E190's.

Will they just focus on PTY? Will they grow other cities?
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 64

Mon May 23, 2016 9:19 pm

Quoting avi8 (Reply 96):
Will they just focus on PTY? Will they grow other cities?

I'd expect to see some increase of P5/CM Colombia - Venezuela service whenever the state of things in Venezuela improve, routes like: MDE-CCS, MDE-MAR.
Now that CM returned to DAV, DAV is waiting for DAV-MIA 1-2 per week.
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 64

Mon May 23, 2016 10:34 pm

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 97):
I'd expect to see some increase of P5/CM Colombia - Venezuela service whenever the state of things in Venezuela improve, routes like: MDE-CCS, MDE-MAR.
Now that CM returned to DAV, DAV is waiting for DAV-MIA 1-2 per week

what about CM/P5 looking at BOG- LIM given the restrictions for PTY-LIM ??
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread. Part 64

Tue May 24, 2016 1:20 am

Quoting copa330200 (Reply 98):
what about CM/P5 looking at BOG- LIM given the restrictions for PTY-LIM ??

IMHO, probably P5/CM would have more chances going for a MDE-LIM since MDE is much less congested than BOG and there are less frequencies on MDE-LIM than on BOG-LIM.
CM could easily negotiate yet another PTY-LIM frequency if it promises the Peruvians opening a new destination, in this case AQP (desperate for CM PTY flight).
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