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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 138

Wed Mar 23, 2016 5:29 am

Quoting vhebb (Reply 49):
That QF second daily SYD-HKG I expect will eventually become an afternoon SYD departure daily once better slots become free.

Likely the goal.

QF are certainly strengthening their HKG presence though which is good.

Will be interesting to see if CX do add a 77W on MEL-HKG on an existing frequency next. The move to a 744 on a few weekly flights on that route has strengthened QF's position on the route and the natural next move would be for CX to make similar moves than it has in SYD.

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Wed Mar 23, 2016 5:40 am

Quoting IndianicWorld (Reply 50):
Will be interesting to see if CX do add a 77W on MEL-HKG on an existing frequency next. The move to a 744 on a few weekly flights on that route has strengthened QF's position on the route and the natural next move would be for CX to make similar moves than it has in SYD.

The rumor doing the rounds at the moment is that CX is looking at picking up some of EK's 773 fleet to be deployed on flights to Australia.
 
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Wed Mar 23, 2016 5:43 am

Quoting CHCalfonzo (Reply 51):
The rumor doing the rounds at the moment is that CX is looking at picking up some of EK's 773 fleet to be deployed on flights to Australia.

Given that they lack additional rights to service the larger Australian markets, that might not be a bad plan.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 138

Wed Mar 23, 2016 5:59 am

Quoting CHCalfonzo (Reply 51):
The rumor doing the rounds at the moment is that CX is looking at picking up some of EK's 773 fleet to be deployed on flights to Australia.
Quoting IndianicWorld (Reply 52):
Given that they lack additional rights to service the larger Australian markets, that might not be a bad plan.

I doubt that rumour is true because CX has enough A350's coming into the fleet to relieve 77W's off of other long haul routes to fly to Australia.

Quoting vhebb (Reply 49):
That QF second daily SYD-HKG I expect will eventually become an afternoon SYD departure daily once better slots become free.

That's my impression of the plan as well. QF are taking what they can for now but are looking for better slots.
 
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Wed Mar 23, 2016 6:11 am

Quoting Sydscott (Reply 53):
I doubt that rumour is true because CX has enough A350's coming into the fleet to relieve 77W's off of other long haul routes to fly to Australia.

Whether true or not, their only steps they can make to expand is to upgauge their existing flights.

I agree that their 77W fleet should be able to be redeployed but we will see.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 138

Wed Mar 23, 2016 8:48 am

Quoting IndianicWorld (Reply 21):

Mid this year there will be:
QF LAX Daily 744
VA LAX Daily 77W
AC YVR Daily 788

And don't forget HA, who operate from several West Coast ports to BNE during the northern summer without an overnight stop in HNL.

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Wed Mar 23, 2016 9:40 am

Quoting rjm717 (Reply 55):
And don't forget HA, who operate from several West Coast ports to BNE during the northern summer without an overnight stop in HNL.

Ditto connections from LAX/SFO/YVR/IAH via AKL on NZ and LAX-NAN-BNE on FJ (low season fares BNE-LAX selling around $875 now- ouch!)
 
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Wed Mar 23, 2016 1:36 pm

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 138

Fri Mar 25, 2016 10:36 am

Quoting mariner (Reply 24):
"But in financial terms, Virgin's margins were higher when it was the old budget carrier Virgin Blue."

Perhaps they need to go some way back to basics, to what made the airline attractive in the first place.

mariner

My old signature on this website used to read "The more DJ changes the more I wish it was B6..." or something to that effect. When DJ became VA I updated it slightly as I think that the B6 offer is a better product for the market here compared to what VA have now (including a version of Mint for the coast to coast services).

Borghetti has a lot of problems that they don't seem to want to fix, or cant work out how to fix. I'm shocked that even the new chair of the board is trying to sell this tagline of the "greatest corporate transformation in Australian history" when the financial results would suggest otherwise.

The costs have risen, passengers are leaving, and the product is missing the mark. Will be interesting to see what they do to stem the tide. They have to do something quickly.

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Fri Mar 25, 2016 12:02 pm

Does anybody feel that the terrorist bombing at the check-in area at BRU a few days ago will result in changes to security arrangements at airports both abroad and here in Australia? If so, how?

The sad thing is, if airports tried to screen passengers / luggage before entering the terminal building / check-in area itself, that would probably result in large crowds of people outside of the building that would be just as easy a target for terrorists unless there was a very, very efficient and hence expensive operation in place that involved a lot of security staff / equipment.

IMHO it will be interesting to see what BRU does in regards to airport security measures (changes) in the wake of this terrible attack and if / how airports in other areas respond.
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Fri Mar 25, 2016 12:45 pm

Quoting 777Jet (Reply 59):
Does anybody feel that the terrorist bombing at the check-in area at BRU a few days ago will result in changes to security arrangements at airports both abroad and here in Australia? If so, how?

I doubt we will see any immediate changes but there are a couple of things they could do:

- Reduce dwell times in the landside areas by improving drop-off/pick-up facilities, removing landside amenities (ie cafes, shops, seating, bathrooms) and increasing the efficiency of check-in, immigration and security facilities. Long queues at check-in and immigration/security should be addressed.

- Look at extending the passenger-only area out to check-in rather than immigration. Funnel passengers directly into immigration from the check-in desks rather than letting them mill around or encouraging family/friends to wait to say goodbye. This would provide most of the benefits of extending the secure area to the terminal door without all the various problems that would create.

Ultimately though making airports harder targets will only cause extremists to look elsewhere. You could cause as much damage in a CBD train station at peak times or even in a food court or crowded city street. The attitude has to be one of prevention at the root rather than on the surface.
 
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Fri Mar 25, 2016 1:00 pm

Quoting qf002 (Reply 60):
Ultimately though making airports harder targets will only cause extremists to look elsewhere. You could cause as much damage in a CBD train station at peak times or even in a food court or crowded city street.

They could actually cause a lot more damage at places like major public transport hubs.

But public transport and shopping centers are not the most 'spectacular' targets to terrorists.

For some reason, they always go back to aviation...  
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Sat Mar 26, 2016 12:11 am

Quoting qf002 (Reply 60):
- Reduce dwell times in the landside areas by improving drop-off/pick-up facilities, removing landside amenities (ie cafes, shops, seating, bathrooms) and increasing the efficiency of check-in, immigration and security facilities. Long queues at check-in and immigration/security should be addressed.

The chances of this happening are pretty much zero. Airports make a lot of money from retail so they are not going to cut this back unless the government forces them too, and even then they would fight it.

Also, if there was significant efficiency increases they could make at check-in, immigration or security they would have already done it. Yes, they are always trialling new things to improve the process but I would be very surprised if there are any significant efficiency gains left to be made that they can roll out quickly.

Quoting qf002 (Reply 60):
Ultimately though making airports harder targets will only cause extremists to look elsewhere. You could cause as much damage in a CBD train station at peak times or even in a food court or crowded city street. The attitude has to be one of prevention at the root rather than on the surface.

        

Using the same argument I used about domestic photo I.D. rules (let's not reopen that debate though!), I really cannot see the benefit of making airports this super secure facility while train stations, football stadiums, shopping centres etc aren't.



Quoting 777Jet (Reply 61):

For some reason, they always go back to aviation...  

Plenty of terrorist attacks in recent times on public transport systems and other venues (London, Paris, Madrid) but yet the conversation doesn't turn to "how do we make these locations as secure as prisons?".
 
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Sat Mar 26, 2016 3:21 am

Quoting TruemanQLD (Reply 62):
Using the same argument I used about domestic photo I.D. rules (let's not reopen that debate though!),

Then why mention it?

Quoting TruemanQLD (Reply 62):
Using the same argument I used about domestic photo I.D. rules (let's not reopen that debate though!), I really cannot see the benefit of making airports this super secure facility while train stations, football stadiums, shopping centres etc aren't.

Obviously ID checks, and even security screening after check-in, would be absolutely useless when it comes to preventing terrorists from blowing up check-in areas and unsecure areas of the terminal building... but to argue that ID checks would not be useful in trying to make sure that the person on the booking is the one boarding the aircraft, which is law, is a bit absurd - especially when ID checks could result in a wanted person or 'flagged' individual being arrested or denied boarding (and no, not everyone using fake ID gets away with it)...

Quoting TruemanQLD (Reply 62):
Quoting 777Jet (Reply 61):

For some reason, they always go back to aviation...

Plenty of terrorist attacks in recent times on public transport systems and other venues (London, Paris, Madrid) but yet the conversation doesn't turn to "how do we make these locations as secure as prisons?".

Maybe because this is an aviation website? Duh!

Google can direct you to public transport related forums and the like where you will find such discussions.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 138

Sat Mar 26, 2016 9:49 am

Looking forward to May 15th - An225 will land at PER
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 138

Sat Mar 26, 2016 10:05 am

Quoting 777Jet (Reply 63):
Maybe because this is an aviation website? Duh!

... my point was about general media coverage and public response, not just on A.net, but thanks for pointing out that this is an aviation website  
Quoting 777Jet (Reply 63):

Quoting TruemanQLD (Reply 62):
Using the same argument I used about domestic photo I.D. rules (let's not reopen that debate though!),

Then why mention it?

Quoting TruemanQLD (Reply 62):
Using the same argument I used about domestic photo I.D. rules (let's not reopen that debate though!), I really cannot see the benefit of making airports this super secure facility while train stations, football stadiums, shopping centres etc aren't.

Obviously ID checks, and even security screening after check-in, would be absolutely useless when it comes to preventing terrorists from blowing up check-in areas and unsecure areas of the terminal building... but to argue that ID checks would not be useful in trying to make sure that the person on the booking is the one boarding the aircraft, which is law, is a bit absurd - especially when ID checks could result in a wanted person or 'flagged' individual being arrested or denied boarding (and no, not everyone using fake ID gets away with it)...

We've already had this conversation over multiple forums and I really don't feel like continuing with the topic as it's not going anywhere. We obviously do not agree on this (and that's fine) but I don't really see the point in restating the same points over and over again. Sorry for mentioning it  
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 138

Sat Mar 26, 2016 12:24 pm

In QF news

Both VH-EBK and EBQ operated military charters between ADL and DRW today

http://www.theqantassource.com/qanta...0-200-vh-ebq-positioning-flight-2/

http://www.theqantassource.com/qanta...0-200-vh-ebk-positioning-flight-3/

VH-EBN has returned to service after being reconfigured

http://www.theqantassource.com/qanta...turns-from-brisbane-maintenance-3/

This takes the number of reconfigured A330's to 19 (11 x A332, 8 x A333) below is list of what's being reconfigured

A330-200

EBA new
EBB new
EBC new
EBD new
EBE new
EBF new
EBG old
EBJ new
EBK new
EBL old
EBM old
EBN new
EBO old
EBP old
EBQ old
EBR old
EBS new
EBV new

A330-300

QPA new
QPB new
QPC new
QPD new
QPE new
QPF new
QPG currently in maintenance
QPH new
QPI new
QPJ old
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 138

Sun Mar 27, 2016 11:54 am

Hey guys,
Talk about the possibility of an 'A322' and a Boeing 'MOM' has spurred my curiosity about the QF 737-800 replacement order. I think an 'A322' or 'MOM' could be useful for both QF and Jetstar, for both domestic and international operations.
Does anybody have any idea on when QF will look at a possible neo or MAX order for mainline? Any latest news or hot gossip?
I am guessing that some of the neo orders for Jetstar could be (a) diverted to QF mainline to begin the replacement of 737-800s and/or (b) changed to the A322 for operations by one or both airlines.
I know this topic was discussed in a thread a while ago but the recent speculation on the A322 and Boeing 'MOM' has spurred my curiosity.
Likewise I know that the 'larger domestic NB aircraft than 737-800 for QF and VA' discussion has also been reheated a number of times here...
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 138

Sun Mar 27, 2016 12:12 pm

Quoting bunumuring (Reply 67):
Talk about the possibility of an 'A322' and a Boeing 'MOM'

What 'MOM'?
What?
 
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Sun Mar 27, 2016 12:22 pm

Quoting aerohottie (Reply 68):
What 'MOM'?

MOM stands for middle of market, essentially a 757 replacement, customers are asking Boeing for something bigger than the 737MAX but smaller than the 787-8

Refer to the following thread

New 757 Replacement NMA Information - Part 1 (by tortugamon Feb 2 2016 in Civil Aviation)
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 138

Sun Mar 27, 2016 12:39 pm

Quoting IndianicWorld (Reply 35):
The only way to overcome that is to grow the only vehicle they have at their disposal, which is TT. A low cost base that can offer to the leisure market a product they would pay for, other than a premium that VA would expect to offer its own flights.

I strongly share this view, but perhaps they should rebrand TT first and do something simmilar as QF have done with JQ. TT has to much mud stuck to it as a brand in my humble opinion.
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Sun Mar 27, 2016 12:42 pm

Quoting cougar15 (Reply 70):
I strongly share this view, but perhaps they should rebrand TT first and do something simmilar as QF have done with JQ. TT has to much mud stuck to it as a brand in my humble opinion.

Virgin Blue?
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Sun Mar 27, 2016 12:55 pm

Quoting bunumuring (Reply 67):
I think an 'A322' or 'MOM' could be useful for both QF and Jetstar, for both domestic and international operations.

The way the A321 works for JQ I am surprised that JQ has not added a few more A321s to its fleet. I do see a role for a 'MOM' plane in the JQ fleet.

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Sun Mar 27, 2016 1:10 pm

Quoting 777Jet (Reply 72):
The way the A321 works for JQ I am surprised that JQ has not added a few more A321s to its fleet. I do see a role for a 'MOM' plane in the JQ fleet.

Hey mate, I agree entirely.
I still wonder why Jetstar hasn't obtained more A321s ... although I suspect there are many very good reasons why they haven't (and likewise Virgin Blue/Australia and Qantas passed over the 737-900).
I see the MOM/A322 allowing Qantas to expand more into Asia (eg. Burma/Myanmar, Laos, secondary cities in conjunction with Jetstar) and the Pacific where the 787/A330 are too big. I also think the MOM/A322 could be great on transcontinental, golden triangle, gold coast and transtasman routes.
I'm sure that QF is kept informed about developments in this segment of the market, and what the latest thinking is. Here's hoping that QF will be a launch customer for either if they are 'right' for the airline and actually sticks to its plans rather than dither and dawdle like it did with the Dreamliner!

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Sun Mar 27, 2016 4:10 pm

QF2 DXB-SYD diverting to PER, operated by VH-OQK

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Sun Mar 27, 2016 4:48 pm

Quoting coolian2 (Reply 71):
Virgin Blue?

How about Virgin Lite or Virgin Express....
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Sun Mar 27, 2016 5:12 pm

Quoting qf789 (Reply 74):

Medical diversion gas and go.

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Sun Mar 27, 2016 11:16 pm

Quoting bunumuring (Reply 73):

Regarding JQ, I was looking for a JQ price beat guarantee fare for a mate last night, and I noticed that some flight times have been changed to make sure they fall just outside an hour either side of the TT flight times  
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Mon Mar 28, 2016 2:14 am

[quote=bunumuring,reply=67]
Does anybody have any idea on when QF will look at a possible neo or MAX order for mainline? Any latest news or hot gossip?[/quote

Hey Bunumuring,
Atm, April sometime is decision time for the NB QF Fleet, however it won't be released to the public, it's more 'in house' .
VXA is just over 14yrs old now so by the time QF makes a decision, realistically this 738 will be pushing 16yrs by the time it's replacement is delivered, even though our 734's were pushing 25yrs when they were retired.
Personally I'm hoping for A320/321LRreplacements, in a AA config for 'East-West' and freeing up the A332's for more international work, but the A321's having the flexibility to do long thin International routes under 7hrs. I can always dream
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Mon Mar 28, 2016 10:03 am

Quoting bunumuring (Reply 73):
I see the MOM/A322 allowing Qantas to expand more into Asia (eg. Burma/Myanmar, Laos, secondary cities in conjunction with Jetstar) and the Pacific where the 787/A330 are too big.


Actually as more of a priority, if it has the range this sort of aircraft would make routes like ADL-SIN, ADL-HKG, PER-HKG, PER-MNL, BNE-MNL, MEL-CGK more viable, where the A330s are too big, and the 737s/A320s are right sized but don't have the range. The A321LR should work for some of these at least if they order them.

Quoting JQflightie (Reply 78):
Personally I'm hoping for A320/321LRreplacements, in a AA config for 'East-West' and freeing up the A332's for more international work, but the A321's having the flexibility to do long thin International routes under 7hrs. I can always dream


Exactly what I'm hoping for too!
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Mon Mar 28, 2016 11:28 am

Quoting JQflightie (Reply 78):
Personally I'm hoping for A320/321LRreplacements, in a AA config for 'East-West' and freeing up the A332's for more international work, but the A321's having the flexibility to do long thin International routes under 7hrs. I can always dream

Replacing A330's on the MEL/SYD/BNE-PER runs with A321's would require a HUGE increase in frequency to maintain the current capacity offered. Plus we can say goodbye to getting J upgrades or finding reward business seats easily.

The A330's get filled - there's only a few slow periods throughout the year where they go out with lots of spare seats. I travel between Perth and Melbourne about 10 times a year and I would say 8/10 flights I go on are full to the brim. I can only remember one VA flight last year that was surprisingly empty.

I can always dream that QF brings back the 744 on the domestic runs!
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 138

Mon Mar 28, 2016 11:33 am

Quoting ben175 (Reply 80):

Yes, you can dream  
 
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Mon Mar 28, 2016 11:35 am

Quoting ben175 (Reply 80):
I can always dream that QF brings back the 744 on the domestic runs!

I have the same dreams!  

Even if it was a re-positioning flight (I love being able to book big types on regularly scheduled domestic re-positioning flights between international sectors, but at the same time it is also good to see airlines with their stuff in order so they don't need to do that).
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Mon Mar 28, 2016 2:05 pm

Quoting ben175 (Reply 80):
Replacing A330's on the MEL/SYD/BNE-PER runs with A321's would require a HUGE increase in frequency to maintain the current capacity offered. Plus we can say goodbye to getting J upgrades or finding reward business seats easily.

I guess not replacing all A330 services but some, no doubt there will be further traffic loss with the ever softening FIFO market, and as JQflightie said, do them like AA has with a proper long haul J class lie flat product. Even if capacity demand on the route stays the same, down-scale some A330 services and up-scale 737s to A321s with a lie flat J, would allow for a consistent J class product be it on A330 or narrowbody.

Quoting ben175 (Reply 80):
I can always dream that QF brings back the 744 on the domestic runs!

If only! Would be awesome...but only a dream these days!

Playing arm chair QF CEO...I could really see the A321LR with a lie flat J being a great plane to have based out of PER for QF, not just for domestic flights, but for Asia too! PER-SIN/HKG/MNL/BKK, without connecting traffic that QF don't have beyond those cities, the A321 would be a right sized aircraft for those markets to offer daily flights and even 2x daily to SIN. Maybe even PER-CMB (I think that should be within the A321LR range?) and have domestic traffic from the east coast to connect onto it. Along with 787-9 PER-LHR, PER-JNB and PER-AKL, I think those routes could work well and are realistic for PER, and as a mini west coast QF hub.
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Mon Mar 28, 2016 4:32 pm

Quoting 747m8te (Reply 83):
I guess not replacing all A330 services but some, no doubt there will be further traffic loss with the ever softening FIFO market, and as JQflightie said, do them like AA has with a proper long haul J class lie flat product. Even if capacity demand on the route stays the same, down-scale some A330 services and up-scale 737s to A321s with a lie flat J, would allow for a consistent J class product be it on A330 or narrowbody.

I've always wondered if there's a market to configure a few of the 738's with lie flat J and dedicate them to the transcons. I know it's probably a waste of money to have a small sub-fleet and it's inflexible, but honestly both QF's and VA's business products on the A330 are expensive real estate for a 4 hour sector... so could be a great marketing opportunity to offer "lie flat coast to coast no matter the day or destination".

Is it even possible to have a lie flat business product on a 737 or would it impact the weight too heavily?
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 138

Mon Mar 28, 2016 11:26 pm

Funnily enough, Tiger hasn't yet been granted regulatory permission to fly their customers back home to Australia, resulting in planes flying back empty. You just couldn't make this stuff up!

http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel...y/0ac0888e6ab23239046f036fa6ebed46
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 138

Tue Mar 29, 2016 12:04 am

Quoting ZKOJQ (Reply 85):
You just couldn't make this stuff up!

I just spat out my coffee!!! Oh the Dept. of Fair Trading claims will be flying on this one and Tiger will have absolutely no defence.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 138

Tue Mar 29, 2016 12:18 am

Quoting ZKOJQ (Reply 85):
Tiger hasn't yet been granted regulatory permission to fly their customers back home to Australia, resulting in planes flying back empty. You just couldn't make this stuff up!

Why is this only hitting the news now, it has been widely known for weeks! Lazy journalism at its worse, they only notice when someone gripes about it on social media. Saves them having to do any research.

Tiger have not received regulatory approval to sell tickets in Indonesia. They can fly people from DPS to Australia but the ticket must be sold as a round-trip from Australia. They will only have empty aircraft for the first few weeks as by then the inbounds will simply be carrying the returning holiday makers they've already flown out there.

Quoting ben175 (Reply 84):
Is it even possible to have a lie flat business product on a 737

It's definitely possible. The biggest issue is the small surface area of the cabin rather than the weight.

My concern with the A321 is its CASM. Put it in a low density, high premium configuration and the cost per seat will be horrendous against an A330. Between reduced revenue because of the slowdown in the resources sector and the and higher costs of the A321, their margins would be trashed. The current strategy of mostly A330s with occassional 737s to moderate demand during quieter periods is a much sounder strategy from a cost perspective. Sure the 737s are more expensive on a per seat basis, but the majority of the traffic is still hauled on A330s.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 138

Tue Mar 29, 2016 12:41 am

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 87):
it has been widely known for weeks! Lazy journalism at its worse, they only notice when someone gripes about it on social media. Saves them having to do any research

I disagree this is a case of "lazy journalism", there are plenty of cases of that, but this isn't one of them... so who else knew about this outside Tiger/Virgin?

The one way ex DPS pax... this is overwhelmingly an ex PER issue as many of those pax buy 2 one-way tickets on different LCC's, Jetstar one way, return on Air Asia.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 138

Tue Mar 29, 2016 3:51 am

Quoting ben175 (Reply 84):
Is it even possible to have a lie flat business product on a 737 or would it impact the weight too heavily?

Yes. Qantas' A330 VantageXL seats are available in a narrower Vantage model, as feature on the MH A330s and many other airlines. To give you a comparison, they are 5 across on the A330 as opposed to 4 across for the XL model.

The 737 seat map is on their website. BA (mid-haul) and B6 have them on their A321s.

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 138

Tue Mar 29, 2016 12:57 pm

Another day & another broken A380... QF93 rescheduled to depart at 0300 a 17 hour delay!

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http://fr24.com/QFA94D/93ccf49

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 138

Wed Mar 30, 2016 12:07 am

Monday afternoon I flew back to SYD from LST. As a hopeful to aspire to being a mediocre spotter, I was excited to see that traffic was landing on the 16s. After getting my luggage, I went over to Rydges Hotel and to the spotting platform to try to finally capture a shot of an arriving plane with the city in the background, which I did. During my time there I enjoyed seeing a few changes, UA using the B789 and MH using the A332F. Is the A332F a permanent change, are the B744Fs being retired?
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 138

Wed Mar 30, 2016 12:26 am

Quoting EK413 (Reply 90):
Another day & another broken A380

What have the other ones been in the last few days?
Q300/ATR72-600/737-200/-300/-400/-700/-800/A320/767-200/-300/757-200/777-300ER/
747-200/-300/-400/ER/A340-300/A380-800/MD-83/-88/CRJ-700/-900
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 138

Wed Mar 30, 2016 1:56 am

Air New Zealand are reviewing their stake in Virgin following last weeks announcement of a $425m loan from Virgins 4 largest shareholders.

Virgin shares have been put on hold on the ASX.
Air NZ CEO Chris Luxon has resigned from the Virgin board, effective immediately.
More to come...
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/indu...kl--air-nz-reviews-stake-in-virgin

[Edited 2016-03-29 18:58:08]
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 138

Wed Mar 30, 2016 1:57 am

More news on Virgin Australia.

Air New Zealand looking at exiting its shareholding.

http://australianaviation.com.au/201...ng-to-sell-virgin-australia-stake/

I'd suggest the problems at VA are structural with no easy fix.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 138

Wed Mar 30, 2016 2:10 am

Didn't NZ just agree last week to the loan?

This is big news, I wonder how VA will survive without NZ's support, and money.

Prudent decision by NZ, showing they have learnt from the AN disaster.

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 138

Wed Mar 30, 2016 2:11 am

Its likely a good thing.The politics of having 3 carriers owning fairly even share amounts likely was a difficult political act at times too.

I could see SQ increasing its stake, and maybe even EY. The latter has a lot on its plate already though.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 138

Wed Mar 30, 2016 2:17 am

I think the problems run deeper than what we are seeing, you talk to anyone that works for them....
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 138

Wed Mar 30, 2016 2:24 am

I'd suggest the airline will be sold to another entity.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 138

Wed Mar 30, 2016 2:26 am

I give them max 2 weeks before they start transferring flight to Tiger....
When is my next holiday?

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