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CNN's New Low - MH370 Was An Airbus 737-300

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 12:17 pm
by levg79
I was just browsing news this morning and I believe I've made a determination that you really can't depend on CNN. They've just published an article of how a possible MH370 debris was found in South Africa, something that had been discussed on this forum several days ago. What's funny is that they have confirmed that the piece belonged to the missing Airbus... Apparently they haven't been watching CNN in the past 2 years..... I don't know if they'll be stupid enough to leave the articles on for too long but this is the current link:

http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/23/world/...70-engine-cowling-found/index.html

And the text:
(CNN)A piece of what appears to be a Rolls Royce engine cowling has been found on a beach in South Africa, according to officials.

The Malaysian authorities say a team will be sent to retrieve the item, which it will examine to determine if it is part of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, which disappeared without a trace in March 2014. Since then it has become one of the biggest aviation mysteries of all time, although at least one piece, discovered on the western Indian Ocean island of Reunion in July 2015, has been confirmed to have been from the Airbus 737-300.


Shouldn't they have someone proof reading the news they report? Richard Quest perhaps?

RE: CNN's New Low - MH370 Was An Airbus 737-300

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 12:23 pm
by TheFlyingDisk
Airbus 737?

I guess Boeing must be happy with their B320..,

RE: CNN's New Low - MH370 Was An Airbus 737-300

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 12:32 pm
by aviationaware
This is not just CNN, this kind of sloppy and dishonest reporting is rampant in almost all media.

RE: CNN's New Low - MH370 Was An Airbus 737-300

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 1:11 pm
by seat64k
So many threes and so many sevens - must be confusing!

RE: CNN's New Low - MH370 Was An Airbus 737-300

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 1:14 pm
by Amiga500
Quoting aviationaware (Reply 2):
This is not just CNN, this kind of sloppy and dishonest reporting is rampant in almost all media.

I don't think this is as much dishonesty as it is stupidity.

The saying, paper never refuses ink, springs to mind here.


But your right, there is quite a bit of reporting around the world that is downright dishonest.

IMO, if the press wants to make a big deal of their need for absolute freedom to report the news accurately, then they better make f__king sure its accurate.

RE: CNN's New Low - MH370 Was An Airbus 737-300

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 1:20 pm
by moo
Quoting aviationaware (Reply 2):
This is not just CNN, this kind of sloppy and dishonest reporting is rampant in almost all media.

Honesty has got nothing to do with this - the words you are wanting is "accuracy" or "inaccurate".

Or do you think CNN was deliberately trying to lie to you about the aircraft manufacturer and type for some reason....?

RE: CNN's New Low - MH370 Was An Airbus 737-300

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 1:34 pm
by seemyseems
I still find a lot of articles giving MH the wrong name, e.g. Malaysian Airlines or Malaysian Airways

RE: CNN's New Low - MH370 Was An Airbus 737-300

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 1:37 pm
by UA444
The intern goes on a.net and knew how to get under everyone's skin.

RE: CNN's New Low - MH370 Was An Airbus 737-300

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 1:40 pm
by n0ct
Just remember, as often as the main stream media gets things wrong on aviation, they get details wrong on almost all other topics just as frequently. Once you understand this, you'll be skeptical of all their other stories as well.

RE: CNN's New Low - MH370 Was An Airbus 737-300

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 1:48 pm
by moo
Quoting n0ct (Reply 8):
Just remember, as often as the main stream media gets things wrong on aviation, they get details wrong on almost all other topics just as frequently. Once you understand this, you'll be skeptical of all their other stories as well.

The UK newspaper "The Mirror" is currently running a story about how the introduction of the Micro:bit has just turned an entire generation of children into "computer hackers".

Sometimes I just don't want to live on this planet any more.

RE: CNN's New Low - MH370 Was An Airbus 737-300

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 1:52 pm
by rta
That's pretty horrible, but they've fixed it.

RE: CNN's New Low - MH370 Was An Airbus 737-300

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 1:56 pm
by winterlight
No worse than the idea the aircraft actually crashed.

RE: CNN's New Low - MH370 Was An Airbus 737-300

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 2:50 pm
by RIX
Quoting seat64k (Reply 3):

So many threes and so many sevens - must be confusing!


Add to this those A and B letters, and the mess is complete...

RE: CNN's New Low - MH370 Was An Airbus 737-300

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 3:00 pm
by winterlight
Quoting n0ct (Reply 8):
Just remember, as often as the main stream media gets things wrong on aviation, they get details wrong on almost all other topics just as frequently. Once you understand this, you'll be skeptical of all their other stories as well.

Exactly why I pay more attention to the alternate media outlets.

RE: CNN's New Low - MH370 Was An Airbus 737-300

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 3:27 pm
by uta999
It is likely that the journalists are regular readers of A.NET and are doing it on purpose, to see how long they can get away with it, before they get the call.

They know that 99% of their readers won't spot it, but enjoy pulling the leg of those that do.

RE: CNN's New Low - MH370 Was An Airbus 737-300

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 3:41 pm
by hivue
Quoting Amiga500 (Reply 4):
I don't think this is as much dishonesty as it is stupidity.

Right. As I've posted on these forums before, one of the best pieces of advice I have ever gotten is don't attribute too malice that which adequately can be explained by stupidity.

Quoting moo (Reply 5):
the words you are wanting is "accuracy" or "inaccurate".

No. The word you want is "ignorant."

Quoting n0ct (Reply 8):
Just remember, as often as the main stream media gets things wrong on aviation, they get details wrong on almost all other topics just as frequently. Once you understand this, you'll be skeptical of all their other stories as well.

  

RE: CNN's New Low - MH370 Was An Airbus 737-300

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 4:01 pm
by catiii
Quoting aviationaware (Reply 2):
This is not just CNN, this kind of sloppy and dishonest reporting is rampant in almost all media.

Dishonest implies a willful intent to deceive. This is just sloppy.

RE: CNN's New Low - MH370 Was An Airbus 737-300

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 4:12 pm
by winterlight
Quoting catiii (Reply 16):

Dishonest implies a willful intent to deceive.

Sounds like most state-controlled propaganda, sorry, media to me.

RE: CNN's New Low - MH370 Was An Airbus 737-300

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 4:14 pm
by CcrlR
Quoting aviationaware (Reply 2):
This is not just CNN, this kind of sloppy and dishonest reporting is rampant in almost all media.
Quoting catiii (Reply 16):
Dishonest implies a willful intent to deceive. This is just sloppy.

Unfortunately
WGN ended up doing the same thing! Luckily CNN fixed it! SHHHHHHHHH! Let's not tell WGN News!

http://wgntv.com/2016/03/23/possible...h370-debris-found-in-south-africa/

RE: CNN's New Low - MH370 Was An Airbus 737-300

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 4:51 pm
by wingman
Quoting TheFlyingDisk (Reply 1):

Airbus 737?

I guess Boeing must be happy with their B320..,

I bet Boeing would trade this product line in a heartbeat..

Quoting uta999 (Reply 14):
It is likely that the journalists are regular readers of A.NET and are doing it on purpose

Or A.net wind up merchants looking to get a kick out of a new forum topic, I wouldn't be surpised.

RE: CNN's New Low - MH370 Was An Airbus 737-300

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 5:41 pm
by Francoflier
Doesn't CNN have an consultant 'aviation expert' who is really really good except he or she knows as much about aviation as I do about hyperbolic partial differential equations...?

RE: CNN's New Low - MH370 Was An Airbus 737-300

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 5:52 pm
by MaxxFlyer
Quoting aviationaware (Reply 2):
This is not just CNN, this kind of sloppy and dishonest reporting is rampant in almost all media.

   Sometimes the "reporting" on stories are flat out cringe-worthy.

RE: CNN's New Low - MH370 Was An Airbus 737-300

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 7:53 pm
by NYPECO
They were close. It was an Airbus 737-800XWB

RE: CNN's New Low - MH370 Was An Airbus 737-300

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 8:21 pm
by jmc1975
There's a reason it's called "Chicken Noodle News"

RE: CNN's New Low - MH370 Was An Airbus 737-300

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 8:21 pm
by JetBuddy
Every time this happens - which seems to be nearly every other article about aviation related content, I wonder how much they get wrong or mix up related to other topics? Things that I don't know much about, how can I know that what I'm reading is correct?

RE: CNN's New Low - MH370 Was An Airbus 737-300

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 8:44 pm
by exFWAOONW
I guess they're changing the airport code from DIA to FUBAR

RE: CNN's New Low - MH370 Was An Airbus 737-300

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 9:34 pm
by SQ22
Last week I talked to DL customer service because of a time and equioment change.

The agent told me I was booked on a Boeing, I replied online tool is showing me an Airbus, she said its an Boeing A 320. So I explained her that this is indeed an Airbus. Silence, followed by "Oohh".

Anyway I got what I wanted and they rebooked me for free. Great customer service and I could give something in return back to DL by teaching the agent.

RE: CNN's New Low - MH370 Was An Airbus 737-300

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 10:57 pm
by nasmal
How wrong can you get?


How wrong can you get?

RE: CNN's New Low - MH370 Was An Airbus 737-300

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 12:56 am
by matthewkellyva
This perfectly sums up the distinct lack of knowledge most journalists have in regards to aviation. You can't even claim this was a wild typo, how you get Boeing 777-200 to Airbus 737-300 is beyond me. Just check out the article linked at the bottom titled 'MH370: Did the pilots do it?'

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/03/07/asia/mh370-quest-pilots/

RE: CNN's New Low - MH370 Was An Airbus 737-300

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 1:49 am
by N415XJ
I wonder if this is some way to catch smaller, shadier news outlets who copy their stories word-for-word? I've heard of authors doing stuff like it before to catch plagiarists. All they'd have to do is search "Airbus 737-300" on google after a few days to find all the sites to send their legal team after.

RE: CNN's New Low - MH370 Was An Airbus 737-300

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 2:45 am
by copter808
Quoting TheFlyingDisk (Reply 1):
I guess Boeing must be happy with their B320..,

Both the Boeing 320 and the Airbus 737 are good airplanes, but not many have been sole. Wonder why?

Quoting N415XJ (Reply 29):
I wonder if this is some way to catch smaller, shadier news outlets who copy their stories word-for-word?

I would think there are better ways to accomplish that without making such a major error.

RE: CNN's New Low - MH370 Was An Airbus 737-300

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 4:50 am
by notaxonrotax
Quoting francoflier (Reply 20):

Doesn't CNN have an consultant 'aviation expert' who is really really good except he or she knows as much about aviation as I do about hyperbolic partial differential equations...?

To be fair, Richard Quest knows quite a bit about aviation......

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RE: CNN's New Low - MH370 Was An Airbus 737-300

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 5:03 am
by Max Q
Quoting levg79 (Thread starter):
Shouldn't they have someone proof reading the news they report? Richard Quest perhaps?
Quoting notaxonrotax (Reply 31):
To be fair, Richard Quest knows quite a bit about aviation......

Seriously ?


He is clueless, unless being an aviation 'expert' just means you're interested in aviation, he has no experience as a Pilot. let alone working as one.


Next to the all time winner of aviation ignorance, Mary Schiavo, however he looks like Neil Armstrong.


Why CNN turns to these idiots when they have several real experts including active Airline Pilots is beyond me.

RE: CNN's New Low - MH370 Was An Airbus 737-300

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:58 am
by tomgib
The German BILD Zeitung today referred to the found wreckage part(s) being from the missing "jumbo jet"..

RE: CNN's New Low - MH370 Was An Airbus 737-300

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:37 am
by notaxonrotax
Quoting Max Q (Reply 32):
he has no experience as a Pilot. let alone working as one.

Seriously?

You need to be a pilot to.....and I quote myself......."know quite a bit about aviation". (??)

I know you are a proud pilot Max, but let's keep things in perspective!


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RE: CNN's New Low - MH370 Was An Airbus 737-300

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 11:00 am
by kraz911
Hello all,

If one were to take away Richard Quest's magic pen, he wouldn't be able to convey a thought, aviation or otherwise. His aviation credentials are a little thin to be hinted as an "expert"!!

RE: CNN's New Low - MH370 Was An Airbus 737-300

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 11:08 am
by Amiga500
Quoting Max Q (Reply 32):
real experts including active Airline Pilots

HAHAHAHA! You speak as if all pilots are experts on aviation.


They may be competent at flying a plane (well, most of them anyway) - but there is much more to aviation than merely flying a plane.


Do you ask taxi drivers to give "expert opinions" on the road networks? Or to explain the causes of motorway pileups? Or to critique the latest car technologies?

[Edited 2016-03-24 04:09:08]

RE: CNN's New Low - MH370 Was An Airbus 737-300

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 12:42 pm
by bmacleod
I remember an edition of Airliner World magazine where a picture of a TK 777 is identified as a 737. Aircraft identification mistakes happen a lot more than we think.

In CNN case they're going non-stop 24/7 so they'll make more than a few mistakes in their online news releases. Not sure about this but way back on 9/11/01 when over 80 US bound flights were diverted to YHZ, and Gander Newfoundland may have been mixed up - like Halifax was in Newfoundland and Gander was in Nova Scotia...

[Edited 2016-03-24 05:45:56]

RE: CNN's New Low - MH370 Was An Airbus 737-300

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 12:59 pm
by bennett123
It is not just aviation.

I recall reading a story in the Times about money laundering.

Apparently, if a lawyer suspects a client, they must contact the authorities before telling their client.

Wrong. If you tell the person you suspect you could easily go to prison.

If the Times drops such clangers, why expect better from CNN.

RE: CNN's New Low - MH370 Was An Airbus 737-300

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 1:31 pm
by wilcharl
Nothing new at all

Lets see in the 18 years I have been in the industry, some of the finest news broadcasts:

An "expert" who was unvetted and brought on the air saying that Alaska Airlines Flt 261 was brought down by the aliens

Colgan 3407 was perhaps caused by the pilot not using carb heat

"Boeing products are Terrorist Friendly" (After the 9/11 attacks)

And my favorite ... The 777 will struggle to maintain altitude after running out of fuel


RE: CNN's New Low - MH370 Was An Airbus 737-300

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 1:59 pm
by copter808
Quoting wilcharl (Reply 39):
Colgan 3407 was perhaps caused by the pilot not using carb heat

Well..."perhaps" is always possible. The pilot did NOT use carb heat. (unless he found a carburetor somewhere) Probably even more likely some "space alien" grabbed the airplane and slung it into the ground!

Quoting wilcharl (Reply 39):
And my favorite ... The 777 will struggle to maintain altitude after running out of fuel

THIS might be true, although the pilots are going to lose that struggle!

RE: CNN's New Low - MH370 Was An Airbus 737-300

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 3:19 pm
by wilcharl
Copter808

Very true... never thought of their responses like that...

Miles O'Brien was always my favorite ... He would always discuss being an aviation expert because he was a private pilot and flew his Cirrus SR22

RE: CNN's New Low - MH370 Was An Airbus 737-300

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 3:24 pm
by Amiga500
Quoting wilcharl (Reply 39):

And my favorite ... The 777 will struggle to maintain altitude after running out of fuel

What do Boeing think they are at?

Surely making planes that need fuel to retain altitude is nothing short of neglegent! 

RE: CNN's New Low - MH370 Was An Airbus 737-300

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 4:35 pm
by bmacleod
Quoting JetBuddy (Reply 24):
Every time this happens - which seems to be nearly every other article about aviation related content, I wonder how much they get wrong or mix up related to other topics? Things that I don't know much about, how can I know that what I'm reading is correct?

This one has to be of the funniest mistakes.....      



[Edited 2016-03-24 09:35:44]

RE: CNN's New Low - MH370 Was An Airbus 737-300

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 6:33 pm
by wilcharl
Quoting Amiga500 (Reply 42):
What do Boeing think they are at?

Surely making planes that need fuel to retain altitude is nothing short of neglegent!

We have to remember Boeing .. shame on them.. makes "Terrorist Friendly Airplanes"