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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2016

Wed Apr 13, 2016 5:55 pm

Quoting Yakamoz (Reply 49):
Is this aircraft an additional one to those of Kenya Airways? If yes, where is this aircraft now flying?

I believe so, TK just announced this. I don't know where it will be coming from.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2016

Wed Apr 13, 2016 6:14 pm

There is some news that TK is venturing back in JA again. Perhaps some insiders can enlight us. Rumor is that, TK will base 3 planes at SJJ. Perhaps this new airline will be a LCC and named RUMELI JET as I dreamed here on a.net.
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2016

Wed Apr 13, 2016 6:21 pm

Quoting TK787 (Reply 50):

Interesting. Seems like TK is in hury to take all B777s on market which are free. Their wide-body orders will be delivered until mid 2017.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2016

Wed Apr 13, 2016 6:59 pm

Quoting Yakamoz (Reply 49):
Will all 4 A340s re-configurated? There was news TC-JIH was retired last month.

That's true or at least, we also had heard the same. But the current rumor is that 4 (not three!) a343s will be reconfigurated!... Your guess is as good as mine!...
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2016

Wed Apr 13, 2016 7:01 pm

Quoting Yakamoz (Reply 49):
Will all 4 A340s re-configurated? There was news TC-JIH was retired last month.

That's true or at least, we also had heard the same. But the current rumor is that 4 (not three!) a343s will be reconfigurated!... Your guess is as good as mine!...

Quoting Yakamoz (Reply 49):
Welcome to Airlines.net mafaky, great to see you here. I have seen your comments many times on Airporthaber.
TC-JPE has left fleet last year, the list shows changes of first quarter of this year.

Thanks for the warm welcome. Ah, that's my glitch; I had the impression that TC-JOC was officially written-off in 2015!...
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2016

Wed Apr 13, 2016 7:26 pm

Quoting Yakamoz (Reply 49):
Is this aircraft an additional one to those of Kenya Airways? If yes, where is this aircraft now flying?
Celestial Aviation Trading is a subsidiary of GECAS where the three B77W of Kenya AIrways are leased.

Well, well, well!... I think you have the point which myself and many others missed. This particular b777-300er may indeed be one of the ex-Kenya aircraft. You see, being a Public Company, THY has to report issues like aircraft leases and many other things to the Public Disclosure Platform. I just checked their recent history of reports. They have not reported anything like leasing three b777s from GECAS (or elsewhere), so far!... In the recent past (February 19th) they reported the leasing of 4+3 (=7) ex-Skymark a333s. The wording doesn't refer to Skymark but we know the origins of those seven airframes. And if the info that Celestial Aviation Trd. is indeed a subsidiary of GECAS, that fully clarifies the case... We also have some evidence that the first of these ex-Kenya b777s is painted in TK colors ready for fleet acceptance. So, in future, we will see the reports on the further two ex-Kenya b777s.
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2016

Wed Apr 13, 2016 7:30 pm

Quoting Yakamoz (Reply 49):
So if TK re-configurated their active A340s and they will be more than 20 years old, they can fly to Arabia?

Yes, should be!... That 20+ YO rule is a regulation or more, a prerequisite of Saudia (AL), not of the Saudi State. Onur Air of Turkey wet leases a number of a332/333 to this airline and from time to time they draw back an airframe and replace it with a younger one!...
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2016

Wed Apr 13, 2016 7:44 pm

Quoting Yakamoz (Reply 52):
Interesting. Seems like TK is in hury to take all B777s on market which are free. Their wide-body orders will be delivered until mid 2017.

You bet!... But, I doubt if there are any more "free for onward leasing" b777-300er's available in the global market. It's a hot and much welcomed airliner in these days.

Indeed, TK will have 32 b777-300er (in C49Y300) by the end of 2017 plus these three ex-Kenya b777-300er (inC28Y372). These later three examples now seem to be leased for only 4 years' so obviously they are destined as "gap fillers" for slot restricted high density routes like BOM or DEL and where C cabin compliment is not a big deal. So we can assume these will be returned to lessor by mid-2020. But, by that date, the first lot of factory fresh purchased 12 b777-300er frames will start slightly aging so TK will be replacing them by 2025 or so (most likely with b777-9 or maybe b777-8).
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2016

Thu Apr 14, 2016 5:54 pm

Quoting mafaky (Reply 57):

Let's see what happens when the new IST is ready; I am sure TK will be ordering many planes once they get rid of their capacity restrictions with the new airport!
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2016

Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:23 pm

Quoting ahmetdouas (Reply 58):
Let's see what happens when the new IST is ready; I am sure TK will be ordering many planes once they get rid of their capacity restrictions with the new airport!

Fingers crossed we are talking about a mere two years from now. TK will have around 400 jets by then and within another 2 years the number will go up to 500+. Not sure how much more they can order ? Maybe few dozen Long Haul, TK has already 170+ narrow bodies on order.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2016

Thu Apr 14, 2016 10:24 pm

Quoting TK787 (Reply 59):
Fingers crossed we are talking about a mere two years from now. TK will have around 400 jets by then and within another 2 years the number will go up to 500+. Not sure how much more they can order ? Maybe few dozen Long Haul, TK has already 170+ narrow bodies on order.

True, but some of the narrow body birds, especially early 737 -800s will be reaching their feasible life long limits by then.
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2016

Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:09 pm

Quoting bahadir (Reply 60):
737 -800s will be reaching their feasible life long limits by then.

Correct. I checked, there are about 25 frames between 15-18 yrs old in the fleet as of now.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2016

Fri Apr 15, 2016 3:07 am

Quoting TK787 (Reply 61):
Correct. I checked, there are about 25 frames between 15-18 yrs old in the fleet as of now.

Those 25 b737-800 are actually the ones fully" owned" by the Airline. THY can sell them away with a flip of an invoice. These were purchased without winglets but in due course winglets were installed. The 3 or 4 remaining a343 frames are also owned by TK; same status as those 25 x b738s. All other aircraft in TK's fleet are on commercial or financial lease.
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2016

Fri Apr 15, 2016 9:38 am

Looks like the numbers for TK keep growing considering tensions in the region

Passenger numbers for Turkish Airlines surged sharply in the first quarter of 2016 despite rising geopolitical tensions in the region, a stock exchange filing report showed April 14.

“During the period of January-March 2016, the number of passengers carried increased by 10.3 percent, reaching 14.2 million passengers from 12.9 million for the same period in 2015,” the airline said in its filing report posted on a public disclosure platform website.

What sort of numbers is TK expecting to reach this year ? Here is the link http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/tur...pageID=238&nID=97816&NewsCatID=345
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2016

Fri Apr 15, 2016 9:53 am

Quoting mafaky (Reply 53):

Glad to hear that TC-JIH is not retired. Hope to see it again in the air.

Quoting mafaky (Reply 56):

Thanks. 331 seats for Hajj is nice.

Quoting mafaky (Reply 55):
Quoting mafaky (Reply 57):

So no one more B77W, just the three ex Kenya Airways. What we know for a while TK announced now.
I think we will see TC-LKB (ex 5Y-KZY) soon.

Quoting mafaky (Reply 62):

AFAIK these owned 25 B738 are TC-JF* and TC-JGA/JGB/JGC/JGD/JGF.

Further, TK has 10 operational leased B738 (JGH/JGJ/JGK/JGL/JGM/JGO/JGP and 2 more which I not found.
All others and newest frames are in Financial Lease.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2016

Fri Apr 15, 2016 10:01 am

Quoting TK787 (Reply 59):

TK seems to have a shortage of long haul planes given what they want to achieve in the future. I am thinking 787 and A380/B748 are missing from their fleet =) Either that or some more 77W's
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2016

Fri Apr 15, 2016 10:41 am

Quoting TK773ER (Reply 63):

Rise in pax numbers is good but LF is slipping, which will no doubt effect yields. Aggressive growth might be coming to an end.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2016

Fri Apr 15, 2016 10:44 am

Quoting Yakamoz (Reply 64):
So no one more B77W, just the three ex Kenya Airways. What we know for a while TK announced now.
I think we will see TC-LKB (ex 5Y-KZY) soon.

I have the latest confirmed information that those 3 will indeed be registered as TC-LKA,B,C in the same 28J 372Y layout as used by Kenyan. Initial service to BOM seems to be delayed though.

BTW, those 3 aircraft are at least 2-3 tonnes lighter than TKs own 77Ws. What could be the reason for it? I am comparing TKs 49J300Y to Kenyans 372Y28J config. Not suprisingly TKs new configuration is about half a tonne heavier than their earlier configuration...
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2016

Fri Apr 15, 2016 11:42 am

Interesting article in ch-aviation.ch

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Sun Express (XQ, Antalya) Chief Executive Officer Jaan Albrecht says the slump in demand for leisure flights to Turkey, brought on by the migrant crisis, the war in neighbouring Syria and domestic terrorist attacks, has forced the carrier to reposition its capacity to more buoyant markets this summer.
In an interview with Bloomberg, Albrecht said annual plans to lease in four B737-800s from Brazil's Gol Linhas Aéreas Inteligentes (G3, São Paulo Congonhas) this summer had been dropped while capacity at its in-house fleet is being redeployed to other markets across Europe.

Albrecht said five B737-800s had been repositioned to Sun Express Deutschland (XG, Frankfurt Int'l) for use on charter flights from Germany to Spain and Portugal on behalf of tour operators such as TUI AG. SunExpress Deutschland will also operate four B737-800s from Dusseldorf on behalf of Eurowings (EW, Dusseldorf) by the end of the year. Two further aircraft have been leased to sister company AnadoluJet (AJA, Ankara Esenboga) while a third is in use on domestic flights, he added.

In total, Albrecht said the redeployment plan would see SunExpress operating twenty-five aircraft on its German AOC with fifty-nine remaining on its Turkish AOC.



The effect of Russia we have seen in LF by TK and Pegasus. But all the situation has also an effect on other carrier.

Quoting ahmetdouas (Reply 65):

Ordered long-haul aircraft will all be delivered by mid 2017. The fleet will decrease next year a little in general.

Quoting leftyboarder (Reply 66):

Cancellation of Santiago de Compostela, Planned schedule for Sharm El Sheikh cancelled, launch of Juba flights cancelled, Atlanta goes 5 weekly in winter 2016, Planned frequency increase of some destinations cancelled too.
So there is an effect of all what happened.

Quoting Turkish777X (Reply 67):

I have seen 5Y-KZY on flightradar24 at SAW this morning. Still on ground.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2016

Sat Apr 16, 2016 5:55 pm

Quoting Turkish777X (Reply 67):
BTW, those 3 aircraft are at least 2-3 tonnes lighter than TKs own 77Ws. What could be the reason for it? I am comparing TKs 49J300Y to Kenyans 372Y28J config.

When flying under Kenya colors, these frames were not used for particularly long haul transoceanic routes. They were mostly used between Nairobi and Dubai/Bangkok/Guangzhou - the farthest. I just wildly guess their 28C seats weigh less than 49C seats in TK, probably the business galley equipment weighs also less. And maybe the crew rest area is limited and lighter compared with transoceanic flying TK b777-300er??? The additional 72Y seats probably weigh less than 21C seats they are replacing... Maybe they also have less number of lavatories. TK will also be utilising these frames to relatively nearby destinations from IST, where they have high density but facing slot restrictions (particularly BOM & DEL). They will never see the Americas, neither far stretched destinations like Tokyo/Seoul/Taipei.
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2016

Sun Apr 17, 2016 4:39 pm

Does the first row in J on the new J49Y300 77Ws have a little less legroom like the older config one? Or are there other bad seats I should not get? Can't find much on the new config, on the older one I avoided row 1 (less legroom) and 4 (missing window).
BTW, there is a 25% promo on award tickets to YYZ and ATL going on (or get an extra 25% status miles on paid tickets) so I will take advantage of that.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2016

Sun Apr 17, 2016 5:32 pm

Quoting mict (Reply 70):
BTW, there is a 25% promo on award tickets to YYZ and ATL going on (or get an extra 25% status miles on paid tickets) so I will take advantage of that.

Same with Istanbul to Bogota/Panama until Oct 31.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2016

Sun Apr 17, 2016 8:12 pm

Some more fleet updates:

TC-JFF, -JFI were transferred from THY to AnadoluJet fleet and modified to 189 Y configuration.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2016

Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:09 pm

Quoting mict (Reply 70):

I wonder if the promo for YYZ has anything to do with AC's introduction of a daily 787-900 with premium economy service now available to pax from Canada to Turkey whereas TK discontinues Comfort on YYZ IST...???
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2016

Mon Apr 18, 2016 2:29 pm

Quoting Turkish777X (Reply 72):
Some more fleet updates:

TC-JFF, -JFI were transferred from THY to AnadoluJet fleet and modified to 189 Y configuration.

Now I expect an awkward practice to happen: These 2 frames are actually owned by THY; they are not on operational or financial lease. AnadoluJet is not a separate airline; it's only the "LCC brand" for THY. On fiscal reports of THY, you cannot see clear cut figures for AnadoluJet operations; they are all consolidated... Until these two airframes, all AJ planes have been on WET LEASE either from Borajet or from Sun Express. THY has devised and applied this model since the last 3-4 years. In this way flight crews are on the payrolls of the lessors, not on TK's and are paid rather lower figures that the TK's own employed crews. So, if THY continues the same strategy, they now first have to sell these 2 airframes to Sun Express...
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2016

Mon Apr 18, 2016 5:40 pm

Quoting mafaky (Reply 74):
Now I expect an awkward practice to happen: These 2 frames are actually owned by THY; they are not on operational or financial lease. AnadoluJet is not a separate airline; it's only the "LCC brand" for THY. On fiscal reports of THY, you cannot see clear cut figures for AnadoluJet operations; they are all consolidated... Until these two airframes, all AJ planes have been on WET LEASE either from Borajet or from Sun Express. THY has devised and applied this model since the last 3-4 years. In this way flight crews are on the payrolls of the lessors, not on TK's and are paid rather lower figures that the TK's own employed crews. So, if THY continues the same strategy, they now first have to sell these 2 airframes to Sun Express...

I wonder when my colleagues at THY will open their eyes to the concept called "scope".  
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2016

Tue Apr 19, 2016 12:12 am

During a press conference Head of Limak Holding Nihat Ozdemir announced that 23% of the third airport is complete.

Still mind boggling to think that this airport is going to be operational by February 2018. People at the construction site are working like ants, so many cranes, trucks, personnel it's insane!

[Edited 2016-04-18 17:14:26]
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2016

Tue Apr 19, 2016 1:38 am

They also announced it will be opened on Feb 26th , 2018.. Guess , whose birthday is that day.. Do you also want to guess what will be the name of the airport?  
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2016

Tue Apr 19, 2016 7:37 am

Quoting bahadir (Reply 77):

They also announced it will be opened on Feb 26th , 2018.. Guess , whose birthday is that day.. Do you also want to guess what will be the name of the airport?  

Even if the airport gets his name it will be changed at a later time.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2016

Tue Apr 19, 2016 2:29 pm

TK is starting IST-KSC-IST effective June 16. The initial frequency will be 3 x weekly (Tuesday, Thursday, Friday)

http://www.airportkosice.sk/en/news/709
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2016

Tue Apr 19, 2016 8:54 pm

TK next destination starts..

4 May 16: Bogota - Panama City
10 May 16: Dubrovnik
16 May 16: Atlanta
16 June 16: Kosice
27 June 16: Hanoi

With Ivano-Frankivsk started end of March and the list above, TK will fly by end of June to 116 countries, 294 airports in 291 cities.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2016

Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:02 pm

A couple bits of news from Borajet.

Effective June 22nd will commence summer service from SAW to Mykonos and Rhodes - 3x weekly.
Also June 30th commence service to Ibiza from SAW 2x weekly

Also Borajet joined the European Regions Airline Association (ERA)

Not baby airline any more - the fleet is up to 13 E-jets
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Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:37 pm

Onur Air should launch Istanbul-Chonqing flights this friday (?!), 3 weekly.

I've read on airlineroute Corendon should have started 1 weekly B738 AYT - KEF - BGR - MIA flights today. Was that a joke?

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 81):

3 of 13 flying for Anadolujet, 2 other still on ground for months (TC-YAI and YAS).
 
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Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:01 pm

Quoting Yakamoz (Reply 82):
I've read on airlineroute Corendon should have started 1 weekly B738 AYT - KEF - BGR - MIA flights today. Was that a joke?

Are you referring to some info on airline route.net?

I've checked this website but "Corendon" is not listed here, unless it's listed under a different ID.

What was the mentioned date? Or the date released on the website?
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Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:09 pm

Quoting mafaky (Reply 83):

It was just a tweet on their Twitter account.

https://twitter.com/airlineroute/status/720092125539512322
 
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Wed Apr 20, 2016 5:42 am

Quoting Yakamoz (Reply 82):
Onur Air should launch Istanbul-Chonqing flights this friday (?!), 3 weekly.

How is it possible that they can start a destination in China that TK is not allowed to fly to?
 
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Thu Apr 21, 2016 3:16 pm

Quoting Turkish777X (Reply 85):
How is it possible that they can start a destination in China that TK is not allowed to fly to?

Well, not someting very very unusual: Onur Air top management was taken to PRC, during the President's recent commercial visits. They probably made a handshake with the Chinese (with that particular municipality or the "local government") and had a chance bcz that town is not served by many foreign airlines. They took as a "gamble"; time will show if they will be successful or not!...

For further info: The services will start sometime in June 2016 (exact dates yet undisclosed), with 3 frequencies/week (exact days to be advised) using a sole two-class a330-200 that Onur Air has in its fleet(which is not leased to a third airline). This will probably be the frame TC-OCL (msn 316). This service will be the first ever service that Onur Air will launch as a long haul one and also their very first one having business class.

Pls. understand these are partially obtained as insider information.
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Fri Apr 22, 2016 7:40 pm

Quoting mafaky (Reply 86):

Why they wrote in their inflight magazine flights start today, 3 weekly?
 
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Fri Apr 22, 2016 11:29 pm

On the Onur China flight that has been in works since early 2015.

Flight is meant for benefit of Chinese tour operator CITS whom will market the bulk of seats with Onur only selling minority portion of the capacity.
Personally I have doubt as to the viability year around, but if the Chinese pay for the flight regardless I guess its a good deal for Onur and keeps and airplane busy.
From what I gather Onur is also looking at other longhaul markets and partnering up including Sri Lanka and Malaysia

The China schedule is:

TuThSu
IST-CKG 2240-1310
TuThSa
CKG-IST 0210-0740
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2016

Sat Apr 23, 2016 12:16 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 88):
TuThSu
IST-CKG 2240-1310
TuThSa
CKG-IST 0210-0740

??? So these flights will have a ground time of 13 hrs. at CKG!... Any technical or other reason?

I hope the very same crew that flies IST-CKG leg will not fly the return flight!...
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2016

Sat Apr 23, 2016 3:08 pm

Yes the 13-hours is for crew rest. Perfectly legal.
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2016

Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:02 pm

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 78):
Even if the airport gets his name it will be changed at a later time.

Airport names may be subject to change, over years!... More difficult to change is the IATA Code!... Thanks Lord, that an Uncle Sam Airport has already taken the IATA Code "RTE"!!!
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2016

Mon Apr 25, 2016 5:18 am

Turkish Airlines during peak travel season is adding Ankara – Stockholm Arlanda route, with 4 weekly rotation being offered on board Airbus A320 aircraft. This service is scheduled to operate from 20JUN16 to 21AUG16.

TK1495 ESB0345 – 0655ARN 320 x146
TK1496 ARN2255 – 0340+1ESB 320 x357
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2016

Mon Apr 25, 2016 5:57 am

Quoting ankaraflyjet (Reply 92):
TK1495 ESB0345 – 0655ARN 320 x146
TK1496 ARN2255 – 0340+1ESB 320 x357

Why such a horrible schedule on a 3 hour flight? Will mess up your day on both the inbound and outbound flight.
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Mon Apr 25, 2016 6:06 am

Quoting B747forever (Reply 93):

Can't agree more...I guess TK is utilizing those planes that would overnight at ARN to do Ankara rotations and due to lack of competition is confident will sell the seats...That's how TK treats ESB unfortunately...SK had better schedule between ARN ESB last year but an inferior product than TK I should admit..No IFE in SK's 737, poor catering so TK has a better product for sure...
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2016

Tue Apr 26, 2016 5:37 pm

I had a pretty good TK call center experience today. I have been dreading to call and get a JFK-IST roundtrip ticket for about a week  
Finally, I got all my ducks in order and called to book a Y ticket and get Elite Plus free J upgrades for this year. It only took 27 minutes from the beginning to receiving a confirmed seat email. Selin, on the other end of the line, was awesome. Her Turkish skills were excellent. We never had to revert to English  . She looked at multiple days for upgrade options, multiple flights of the day and multiple Fare classes to get me the best available seat. I thanked her for her excellent job.
One detail on the reservation caught me off guard. It says "ticketed office/agency: ASSISTT RIZE". TK has a call center/ticketing office in Rize?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2016

Tue Apr 26, 2016 5:59 pm

Quoting B747forever (Reply 93):
Why such a horrible schedule on a 3 hour flight? Will mess up your day on both the inbound and outbound flight.

Its called utilization flying. Makes use of aircraft that overnight on either side. Low cost means to add a flight.

Most customers onboard will be ethnic Turks immigrants on Sweden. TK going back to 1970s operated such late night flights to ethnic heavy markets like Germany.

Quoting TK787 (Reply 95):
One detail on the reservation caught me off guard. It says "ticketed office/agency: ASSISTT RIZE". TK has a call center/ticketing office in Rize?

Yes and no. Your call went to a company called AssissTT in Rize. Since 2008 TK has been outsourcing growing call volume to Turkish call center companies AssisTT and Vodatech.

AssisTT has many facilities around Turkey and now even overseas. If I recall correctly AssisTT handles TK calls at its Rize, Erzincan and Ankara facilities.

http://www.assistt.com.tr/
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2016

Wed Apr 27, 2016 8:43 am

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 96):
Its called utilization flying. Makes use of aircraft that overnight on either side. Low cost means to add a flight.

I would also assume by doing so, they have the crew layover in Ankara rather than Stockholm and thus save tons of money... Their routing would be IST-ARN-ESB...
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2016

Wed Apr 27, 2016 12:42 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 96):

Thanks as always LAXintl, I did not know.
Like I said, Selin was awesome. It always helps when they understand that I know my stuff and the tone of the conversation changes. For example; I've already checked all prices for multiple days ahead for all 3 daily flights and chose my exact flights according to the traffic situation at destination. I have in front of me my Miles&Smiles card, my credit card. I have the phonetic alphabets for both English and Turkish open on my laptop. Also I have both A333 and 77W seat plans open in front of me. Also I open to TK page that tells you what Fare classes earn you how many miles.
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RE: Turkish Aviation April 2016

Wed Apr 27, 2016 2:43 pm

New TK commercial. Batmobile racing around Istanbul.

http://youtu.be/n0y7NzMCR8s

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