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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 139

Tue Apr 05, 2016 10:42 am

Quoting luftaom (Reply 49):
My mother was/is on the flight. She said that they couldn't hear/feel the vibration until they were told about it.

I saw this diverted flight between CBR and SYD on FR24 about 5:45 this morning, so I was checking back in on it for the next few hours. I ended up just Googling QF9 to get the updates, and the media were onto it..

Despite the inconvenience of delay I would be quite sure your Mum and the rest of the pax and crew would be glad to be off the flight; the uncertainty and not knowing, despite just circling in the air for hours, on an A380..  


Qantas Melbourne to Dubai flight circles for hours before returning to Sydney, 5 April 2016, by Jacob Saulwick.

http://www.smh.com.au/business/aviat...ing-to-sydney-20160404-gnydy4.html

From the article:

"A Qantas flight from Melbourne to Dubai has back-tracked to Sydney Airport after flying halfway across the country before encountering engineering problems.

The A380 landed at Sydney Airport about 6.50am on Tuesday, more than eight hours after it left Melbourne.

A Qantas spokesman said there had been a "slight vibration issue" with one of the engines on the QF9 flight.

"The pilots decided to return the aircraft to Sydney where it is expected passengers will be transferred onto a replacement aircraft later this morning," the spokesman said.

The plane left Melbourne Airport at around 11pm. After turning back over South Australia, flight tracking websites showed the plane entering holding patterns over Cowra and Goulburn. It is understood the engine in question was vibrating above its normal threshold.

Qantas also has A380 maintenance facilities at Sydney Airport, which also helps explain the decision to return the plane to Sydney.

Before arriving at Sydney Airport, the flight had to wait until a landing "slot" was available in the busy morning period."


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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 139

Tue Apr 05, 2016 12:32 pm

I was watching it from my desk in London. I initially thought that the uturn was a data glitch - but when it was a very distinct track to Sydney it became clear that there was some kind of moderately serious issue. Serious enough not to continue onto DXB but not so serious that they would have put it down in ASP/KGI (which I assume were the alternates at that time).

I initially thought that the first lot of circling was waiting for the curfew to lift and the second lot was to burn a bit more fuel to get it down to max landing weight.

I was trying to work out what the max landing weight of an A380 would be and do some rough back of the envelope maths - but didn't get very far.

Let's assume that the MEL-DXB flight had say ~16:15 worth of fuel on it. I would assume that the 7:22 of flight would have consumed something more than say 70% of that?

Anyone have any more concrete ideas about the max landing weight of a 380? Or the likely fuel burn?
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 139

Tue Apr 05, 2016 1:48 pm

Quoting luftaom (Reply 51):
Let's assume that the MEL-DXB flight had say ~16:15 worth of fuel on it. I would assume that the 7:22 of flight would have consumed something more than say 70% of that?

Anyone have any more concrete ideas about the max landing weight of a 380? Or the likely fuel burn?

If they had to get it down onto the ground any earlier. Surely, they would just dump some fuel?

Quoting luftaom (Reply 51):
ASP/KGI (which I assume were the alternates at that time).

Doubt either of them would be considered an A380 alternate. PER would have been more likely. It's not like they plan every airport they get close to as an alternate, and when they are midway across the Indian Ocean (or Pacific if to LAX), it's not like they have any close alternates anyway.

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 139

Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:22 pm

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 52):
If they had to get it down onto the ground any earlier. Surely, they would just dump some fuel?

I thought that in circumstances such as these (i.e. have just flown 3 hours back across Australia) then you circle to burn fuel rather than dump it (on environmental grounds).

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 52):
Doubt either of them would be considered an A380 alternate.

ASP has a 2438m long runway - if you had a super serious issue (like a full blown fire) then surely this would be an alternate? After SR111 didn't they shorten the fire checklists and move towards a getting it on the ground quickly focus?
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 139

Tue Apr 05, 2016 4:54 pm

Quoting qf002 (Reply 48):
They also have a frame that sits at SYD for ~48 hours from Tuesday morning until Thursday because SYD-LAX is only 6wk with the A380.

SYD-LAX will drop to 6 weekly A388 service in 3 weeks time as the aircraft will be used on DFW instead to allow it to go daily
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 139

Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:20 pm

JQ will operate an evening MEL-ZQN service from 24 June to 31 August 2016

http://newsroom.jetstar.com/jetstar-...-begin-queenstown-evening-flights/
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Wed Apr 06, 2016 2:52 pm

NARRABRI

Northwest Airlines (Airspeed Aviation) has been awarded the contract to operate RPT services between Narrabri and Sydney. The airline will operate services with a B1900D aircraft and is said to have been up against a proposal from JetGo. The Narrabri community has been left without air services after the demise of Vincent Aviation:

Source - The Courier


QANTASLINK ALICE SPRINGS

QantasLink has announced that it will operate an additional 2x weekly services between Brisbane and Alice Springs during the period 04JUL-28SEP16. The additional weekly services will operate on Mondays and Wednesdays and will complement the existing services on Saturdays and Sundays:

Source - NT News
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 139

Wed Apr 06, 2016 3:27 pm

Quoting luftaom (Reply 53):
ASP has a 2438m long runway - if you had a super serious issue (like a full blown fire) then surely this would be an alternate? After SR111 didn't they shorten the fire checklists and move towards a getting it on the ground quickly focus?

It would perhaps be suitable, but it would not be used as a planned alternate. There is a lot more than runway length to go by. Pavement strength, apron suitability, even the available ground handling equipment.

Now, full on emergency, where you have a plane that is about to fall apart or losing its controllability is an entirely different issue. For instance, Gimli glider didn't have Gimli as an alternate, yet, due to exceptional circumstances, Gimli was still used, just like ASP would be used. Only for exceptional circumstances.

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 139

Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:00 pm

Quoting qfvhoqa (Reply 46):
Quoting qf002 (Reply 48):

Thanks both.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 139

Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:29 pm

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 57):
It would perhaps be suitable, but it would not be used as a planned alternate.

I can promise you that ASP, in fact, IS an A380 alternate. Look at their Master Plan. It very nearly took an A380 diversion some time in the not-so-distant past... can't remember what exactly, but from memory the crew elected for either DRW or ADL instead as that allowed them to burn, rather than dump, fuel.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 139

Wed Apr 06, 2016 11:09 pm

Quoting DeltaB717 (Reply 59):
I can promise you that ASP, in fact, IS an A380 alternate. Look at their Master Plan.

Because of their geographic location.   

The airport is an important alternate for the vast majority of traffic over flying the (very remote) centre of Australia. It is also capable of handling the A380 in limited circumstances.

CBR, although not considered a diversion airport due to its proximity to SYD usually, is the only curfew free airport between BNE and MEL capable of handling A380 and B747, according to their Master Plan.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 139

Thu Apr 07, 2016 5:02 am

SIA increases its stake in VA. Refer SMH, business section. Sorry I am working from a mobile!
 
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Thu Apr 07, 2016 5:19 am

Quoting travelhound (Reply 61):
SIA increases its stake in VA. Refer SMH, business section. Sorry I am working from a mobile!


Quote: In an announcement to the Singapore Stock Exchange on Wednesday evening, the Singaporean carrier said it now owned 23.11 per cent of Virgin, up from 22.91 per cent previously


http://www.smh.com.au/business/aviat...gin-australia-20160406-go0bab.html
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 139

Thu Apr 07, 2016 7:59 pm

Quoting qf789 (Reply 62):
Quote: In an announcement to the Singapore Stock Exchange on Wednesday evening, the Singaporean carrier said it now owned 23.11 per cent of Virgin, up from 22.91 per cent previously

Taking interest on their loan in the form of previously unissued shares?
 
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Fri Apr 08, 2016 8:43 am

Quoting Planesmart (Reply 63):
Taking interest on their loan in the form of previously unissued shares?

No, as per the article they had previously entered into equity swaps which they chose to exercise/settle, which resulted in them acquiring additional shares.
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Fri Apr 08, 2016 10:25 am

Quoting SYDSpotter (Reply 64):
No, as per the article they had previously entered into equity swaps which they chose to exercise/settle, which resulted in them acquiring additional shares.

I suspect that they were entitled under the 3% creep rule to acquire a few more shares and effectively put their foot on them early by entering into a swap arrangement with a bank (who to hedge their risk will undoubtedly go into the market and buy the shares) and then exercised the swap arrangement as soon as they could legally own more shares under the creep rule.

My money at the moment is on a take private by SQ and EY (together) through a scheme of arrangement conditional on necessary regulatory approvals. [I have no inside information on any of this - this is just my best guess].
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 139

Fri Apr 08, 2016 10:36 am

Evening guys! I'm a long time a.net reader and I finally decided to make the huge leap of faith that is joining a.net   I'm from sunny Brisvegas if anyone wants to know!

Does anyone have any idea on the progress of BNE's new runway? From the occasional aerial shot that pops up of the city every now and then it appears to be well on track.

Quoting DeltaB717 (Reply 59):
Quoting DeltaB717 (Reply 59):
I can promise you that ASP, in fact, IS an A380 alternate

Is ASP even a controlled aerodrome at those obscure times of the night? I do recall the time EK420 diverted up there and landed with CTAF! I think ASP would become a consideration only in a full scale emergency. I'm sure the crew made the best choice with regards to the SYD diversion. They'd have known the severity of said vibrations and if things did become worse, ADL and MEL still wouldn't be that much of a backtrack. What a long trip it turned out to be for those pax on what is already a very long flight.
 
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Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:33 am

Quoting luftaom (Reply 65):
I suspect that they were entitled under the 3% creep rule to acquire a few more shares and effectively put their foot on them early by entering into a swap arrangement with a bank (who to hedge their risk will undoubtedly go into the market and buy the shares) and then exercised the swap arrangement as soon as they could legally own more shares under the creep rule.

Yes they would've used a cash settled equity swap (or equivalent), SQ then chose to purchase the shares direct from the bank (who bought them to hedge their position) when they closed their position/swap.

Quoting luftaom (Reply 65):
My money at the moment is on a take private by SQ and EY (together) through a scheme of arrangement conditional on necessary regulatory approvals.

I think VA will also be eventually taken private, but I can't see the benefit of EY and SQ taking joint control. Both SQ and EY have slightly different objectives (and are ultimately competitors) and so there would be friction down the line (if there isn't already). One wonders how VA was functioning properly with 3 (ignoring Virgin's 10% stake) large shareholders in NZ/SQ/EY at the table, but I guess it was functioning well given NZ has decided to offload their stake.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 139

Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:35 am

Quoting 777LRF (Reply 66):
What a long trip it turned out to be for those pax on what is already a very long flight.

They were providing hotels at LHR for anyone who wanted one - or paying for cabs to anywhere in London. The arrivals hall was generally well organised with a man in QF uniform directing people as people came down the arrivals chute to the waiting busses (for hotels) or the cab rank.

The return QF2 was delayed overnight - so QF would have been paying for quite a few hotel rooms (as well as EU compensation for the delay to anyone on QF2 who requests it).
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 139

Fri Apr 08, 2016 12:53 pm

Quoting Thai77w (Reply 36):
Further to my recent posts it will be (777F) picking up in BNE too.

Schedule is 3x week all April, not sure on further schedules.

Will be some thing to see for the Hobart spotters some thing very different and a 777f as well.
Will the Hobart runway be long enough for a full loaded 777F.


[quote=Sydscott,reply=34]A Chinese company just bought a large holding in Tasmanian

That's right I forgot they purched a holding in Tassie.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 139

Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:28 pm

Quoting Thai77w (Reply 36):
Quoting Thai77w (Reply 36):
Schedule is 3x week all April, not sure on further schedules.

I'm struggling to find any published timetables for this new service, does anyone have a link? Nevertheless having Cargo King 77F in HBA and BNE is a big win for both ports. I suppose the 7385 ft runway should be sufficient for the lighter sectors.
 
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Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:38 pm

Quoting 777LRF (Reply 66):
Evening guys! I'm a long time a.net reader and I finally decided to make the huge leap of faith that is joining a.net

Welcome to a.net

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Fri Apr 08, 2016 10:38 pm

Quoting 777LRF (Reply 66):
Evening guys! I'm a long time a.net reader and I finally decided to make the huge leap of faith that is joining a.net  I'm from sunny Brisvegas if anyone wants to know!

I second the welcome, looking forward to your contributions!
 
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Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:02 pm

Quoting 777LRF (Reply 70):
struggling to find any published timetables for this new service, does anyone have a link? Nevertheless having Cargo King 77F in HBA and BNE is a big win for both ports. I suppose the 7385 ft runway should be sufficient for the lighter sectors.

It's on the BNE timetable PDF for April. It appears though it hasn't actually started as planned and has see a delay.

Keep an eye on the BNE PDF on their website for updates.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 139

Sat Apr 09, 2016 1:41 pm

QFA61 BNE-NRT operated by VH-QPA returned to BNE today after what Brisbane Times reported as 'engine vibrations'.

https://www.airliners.net/ufview.file...3983&filename=14602090241LPXXt.jpg

There's a shot I took of her sitting at bay 85 earlier this afternoon. She was towed away from the International terminal shortly after.

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 139

Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:12 pm

Hey guys,
A reminder that Wings Over Illawarra at Albion Park is coming up in a few weekends... not sure exactly what will be on display civil-wise (if anything at all except that 'elephant in the room', the ex-QF VH-OJA) but the ADF is scheduled to provide Seahawks and Bell 429s from Nowra, a Hornet (or Super Hornet???) from Williamtown, a Hercules from Richmond, a Blackhawk or two (from Holsworthy?), the Roulettes and possibly a Super King Air from Sale. Also possible are Taipans and a Wedgetail. Naturally all the HARS stuff will be on show but I am not sure what exactly will be flying.
And while on the subject, this year's ADF airshow is scheduled to be in Townsville in October. I am planning on flying up for it but does anybody know anything about the participants? I know there were whispers of US involvement from Guam, and possible Singaporean and Malaysian involvement, but I haven't heard anything definite. Also, what civilian involvement will there be, if any?
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Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:24 pm

Bunumuring,

Without drifting too far from "civil aviation"   latest I heard was USAF involvement will be minimal. They've used the Thunderbirds in promos but they almost are definitely NOT coming. Hopefully at least a BUFF makes it way down from GUM maybe even a BONE doing a fly by. The black knights from SG would be fantastic, as would some involvement from the Malaysians... (Russian jets!) or A400? Another possibility is the RNZAF debuting their premier "frontline fighter" the Texan display team is apparently up and running. I'm still evaluating TSV, I have good
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Sat Apr 09, 2016 11:05 pm

Hey Thai77w,
Thanks for the info.
I am definitely going to my 'local' airshow, Wings Over Illawarra, and will 99% go to Townsville. I am especially interested in your news about the RNZAF Texans as I haven't seen the type yet. Maybe they will be supported by an RNZAF 757?
And as for civil, surely an AirNorth Embraer or Qantaslink Q series or something will be on display! I can dream of seeing an Air Niugini Fokker there, lol!
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Sat Apr 09, 2016 11:49 pm

Quoting qf789 (Reply 71):
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He's my step-grandmothers nephew. Lovely man and a wealth of stories and knowledge. It's funny - he's just retired while I'm in ground school to be a QF FA. Almost like passing the baton!
 
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Mon Apr 11, 2016 4:53 am

VA launches partnership with AZ

http://www.ausbt.com.au/virgin-austr...-partnership-with-italy-s-alitalia

Woolworths brings back QFF points for shoppers

http://www.ausbt.com.au/woolworths-b...frequent-flyer-points-for-shoppers

SA government hopes tourism agreement with CZ leads to non-stop service

http://australianaviation.com.au/201...southern-leads-to-nonstop-service/
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Tue Apr 12, 2016 10:02 am

NH will operate 788 instead of 789 on selected dates in May & June, dates are ex HND (add a day for SYD departure)

12MAY16 – 18MAY16 Day x167
22MAY16 – 28MAY16 Day x234
01JUN16 – 07JUN16 Day x567
11JUN16 – 17JUN16 Day x123
21JUN16 – 27JUN16 Day x456

http://airlineroute.net/2016/04/12/nh-syd-may16/
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Tue Apr 12, 2016 11:12 am

Quoting qf789 (Reply 80):

NH will operate 788 instead of 789 on selected dates in May & June, dates are ex HND (add a day for SYD departure)

I'm on one of those flights and quite happy because J on the 788 has a slightly more spacious config than the 789. However I wonder if the down gauge means that the route isn't going gangbusters for NH. Granted May and June are traditionally slow months in and out of Australia.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 139

Tue Apr 12, 2016 12:07 pm

It wouldn't surprise me if NH are still building the market.

There is a significant amount of competition on Australia-Japan, especially into SYD.

I still think they made a mistake going back into SYD, as it may well be the strongest market overall but it had a chance to build itself as a stronger player into a city like MEL or PER. All of the choices are risks, but growing Japan business links into MEL in particular gave it a chance to be the sole premium option on the route.

Oh well we will see how that plays out.
 
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Tue Apr 12, 2016 12:24 pm

Quoting cx777fan (Reply 81):
However I wonder if the down gauge means that the route isn't going gangbusters for NH

The flights have reasonably good loads- NH's problem is their undisciplined yield management and desire to match JL/QF on price (sometimes too far in advance) even though NH's flights have less seats.
 
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Tue Apr 12, 2016 12:53 pm

VH-VPD's refit is rumored to have incurred a reasonably substantial delay. Does anyone here know more? Currently the aircraft is in Louisiana.

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Congratulations to Captain Ogilvie on a very long and successful career. I hope he enjoys his retirement. I wasn't aware that (until so recently) QF still had crew members who had flown the airline's 707s. Quite impressive really.
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Wed Apr 13, 2016 6:02 am

QF has sought permission from IASC for JQ to use capacity on certain routes "for flexibility" over the next 5 years. This includes flights to China, Papua New Guinea, the Philippines and New Caledonia.

http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel...y/0e022ef3e554603b21112b1bb65538aa
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Wed Apr 13, 2016 6:21 am

Quoting qf789 (Reply 85):
QF has sought permission from IASC for JQ to use capacity on certain routes "for flexibility" over the next 5 years. This includes flights to China, Papua New Guinea, the Philippines and New Caledonia.

Hmmmm.....would be interesting to see if "certain routes for flexibility" include QFLink's CNS-POM flight that are currently op'd by the Q400. Could this be a precursor to JQ Australian op's getting the Dash-8's as well? A 180-seat A320 would be overkill on the particular route. Or starting BNE or SYD to POM.....
 
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Wed Apr 13, 2016 6:50 am

Quoting Bluebird191 (Reply 86):
Hmmmm.....would be interesting to see if "certain routes for flexibility" include QFLink's CNS-POM flight that are currently op'd by the Q400. Could this be a precursor to JQ Australian op's getting the Dash-8's as well? A 180-seat A320 would be overkill on the particular route. Or starting BNE or SYD to POM.....

Probably more likely of JQ entering BNE-POM for example, where VA currently operate 6x/week. The PNG application also allows joint services with Air Niugini who fly twice a weekly to SYD - perhaps JQ could also complement or replace that service.
 
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Wed Apr 13, 2016 7:57 am

Quoting bbbb (Reply 87):
Probably more likely of JQ entering BNE-POM for example, where VA currently operate 6x/week. The PNG application also allows joint services with Air Niugini who fly twice a weekly to SYD - perhaps JQ could also complement or replace that service.

Loads on the BNE-POM route aren't the best for either carrier but cargo keeps them there. Does the BNE-POM route really need a third carrier? Ideally I'm arguing no, but we could well see you're suggestion of JQ ex SYD, even CNS with a Dash-8 if they were interested in introducing prop ops in Australia.
 
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Wed Apr 13, 2016 8:25 am

Quoting Bluebird191 (Reply 86):

Quoting qf789 (Reply 85):
QF has sought permission from IASC for JQ to use capacity on certain routes "for flexibility" over the next 5 years. This includes flights to China, Papua New Guinea, the Philippines and New Caledonia.

Hmmmm.....would be interesting to see if "certain routes for flexibility" include QFLink's CNS-POM flight that are currently op'd by the Q400. Could this be a precursor to JQ Australian op's getting the Dash-8's as well? A 180-seat A320 would be overkill on the particular route. Or starting BNE or SYD to POM.....
Quoting Bluebird191 (Reply 88):
Loads on the BNE-POM route aren't the best for either carrier but cargo keeps them there. Does the BNE-POM route really need a third carrier? Ideally I'm arguing no, but we could well see you're suggestion of JQ ex SYD, even CNS with a Dash-8 if they were interested in introducing prop ops in Australia.

I think everyone is reading way too much into this, its not impossible but its just to give them flexibility if things change.

Passenger loads are low on PX and VA flights but cargo is apparently good, which QF services with 737 freights already, no? Where would the benefit of JQ over QF be to POM? It's hardly a popular tourist destination which is typically JQ's domain. I thought QF was happy with their current arrangement with PX...

China, the Philippines and New Caledonia on the other hand are much more likely to see JQ service (in that order), but I still don't see it happening soon.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 139

Wed Apr 13, 2016 7:24 pm

Quoting TruemanQLD (Reply 89):
Passenger loads are low on PX and VA flights but cargo is apparently good, which QF services with 737 freights already, no?

Which is why I mentioned in my post about the low pax loads. The 737 freighters to POM are operated by Toll, so whether it's on behalf of QF I'm not entirely sure.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 139

Thu Apr 14, 2016 5:23 am

Quoting qf789 (Reply 79):
Woolworths brings back QFF points for shoppers

Still not the best scheme... only a partial return to the old scheme and certainly not enough to regain my loyalty. Coles and FlyBuys will be happy, and will continue to gain my exclusive business.
And with Woolies/Caltex petrol litres NOT regaining QFF points, looks like Virgin/BP will continue to get my exclusive business.

And back to aviation news...
It's mid-April, and a decision on the Qantas narrowbody re-equipment order was speculated to be made by the end of this month/early May ... MAX or neo? CSeries involvement? A380 deferrals turned into extra neos or A350s (the latter, I suspect is unlikely now) Upgauging to the larger MAX9s or A321neo/-neoLRs?
Interesting times ahead...

Plus, will Badgerys Creek hit the news again as part of the Federal election campaign ... could there be some new glossy artists' images released, with more detailed planning and timelines revealed? I really hope that this project takes off (pun intended) as soon as possible to boost the economy of western Sydney and NSW in general.

Cheers,
Bunumuring.

[Edited 2016-04-13 22:24:30]
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 139

Thu Apr 14, 2016 5:25 am

Quoting bunumuring (Reply 91):
Plus, I hear that Badgerys Creek may hit the news again in a big way as part of the Federal election campaign ... could there be some new glossy artists' images released, with more detailed planning and timelines revealed? I really hope that this project takes off (pun intended) as soon as possible to boost the economy of western Sydney and NSW in general.

Id suspect a rail link might be in the mix.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 139

Thu Apr 14, 2016 5:34 am

Quoting QF2220 (Reply 92):
Id suspect a rail link might be in the mix.

The way that the NSW govt are getting gifts galore lately, its more than likely they will continue seeing the love leading up to the election. Western Sydney will be an election hotspot again this time around, so this just plays into the same narative.

In other news, the 2nd busiest airport in the country (Tullamarine) still waits...
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 139

Thu Apr 14, 2016 5:37 am

A rail link to Badgerys Creek may well be part of a wider announcement of expanding the rail network, and possibly more 'plans' for HSR along the eastern seaboard...
Cheers,
Bunumuring
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 139

Thu Apr 14, 2016 5:51 am

Quoting ZKOJQ (Reply 84):
VH-VPD's refit is rumored to have incurred a reasonably substantial delay. Does anyone here know more? Currently the aircraft is in Louisiana.

Maybe the NZ issued, credit card got max out and there not willing to top it up?
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 139

Thu Apr 14, 2016 8:17 am

The badgery's Creek rail link is almost an imperative. Hopefully we see it beyond the election rhetoric.

Quoting eta unknown (Reply 83):
The flights have reasonably good loads-

I've heard from a reliable source that the premium side of things are doing well on the outbound leg from SYD
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 139

Thu Apr 14, 2016 8:53 am

Quoting TruemanQLD (Reply 89):
I think everyone is reading way too much into this, its not impossible but its just to give them flexibility if things change.

You guys are reading too much into it. Virtually every Qantas Group IASC determination contains this language.

Quoting bunumuring (Reply 91):
Plus, will Badgerys Creek hit the news again as part of the Federal election campaign ... could there be some new glossy artists' images released, with more detailed planning and timelines revealed?

It depends when the Election is. My understanding of the process underway is that negotiations with the SYD owners can't take place until after the EIS process has been finalised. The EIS process won't be finalised for another couple of months at least and then the Notice of Intention, which SYD has first right of refusal over, is then issued with SYD having between 4 and 9 months to say yes or no. It's only after that the Airport will actually start to be built.

Still, it's all movement and progress forward!
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 139

Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:02 am

Quoting IndianicWorld (Reply 93):
In other news, the 2nd busiest airport in the country (Tullamarine) still waits...

We will never get the railway out to Melbourne airport both Governments Labour or Liberal are to scared to spend the money.
We in this State just spend billions of dollars on compensation for not having infrastructure built.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 139

Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:16 am

^^ The biggest issue for me is that the main capacity increasing project (metro rail tunnel) appears to be the only consideration so far. No provision for getting the airport rail project at least underway in time to utilise network capacity added by the metro rail tunnel has been made.

If the federal government stepped up to the plate as generously as they have in NSW then maybe it may be taken more seriously, but that just isn't happening.

At the end of the day, As much as I can't stand Shorten, he is likely Victoria's best chance at gaining an increased funding allocation.

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