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UA LAX 777 To 787 Transition?

Fri Apr 08, 2016 6:08 pm

A few months ago it was announced that UA was transitioning to all 787 on the remaining long haul routes out of LAX. However, checking the timetable on the LAX-LHR route for several dates over S16 it still shows up as 777. Has UA changed their mind and instead stick with the 777 to SYD and LHR?
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RE: UA LAX 777 To 787 Transition?

Fri Apr 08, 2016 6:15 pm

This is the thread I refering to: United Shifts Bulk Of 787 Flying To West Coast (by LAXintl Aug 26 2015 in Civil Aviation)
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RE: UA LAX 777 To 787 Transition?

Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:13 pm

Doesn't look like LHR or SYD will be changing any time soon, so perhaps that was more speculation than insight into fleet planning?

I mean, it would seem to make sense for them to center their secondary west coast gateway around a single model and its variants, but who knows.
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RE: UA LAX 777 To 787 Transition?

Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:45 pm

Quoting B747forever (Thread starter):
Has UA changed their mind and instead stick with the 777 to SYD and LHR?

SYD is 787 already.

LHR goes 787 on August 1st.
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RE: UA LAX 777 To 787 Transition?

Fri Apr 08, 2016 8:15 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 3):
LHR goes 787 on August 1st.

Checking dates in SEP/OCT it shows as 777. Also booked on the route in JAN and it shows as 777.
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RE: UA LAX 777 To 787 Transition?

Fri Apr 08, 2016 8:46 pm

Quoting B747forever (Reply 4):
Checking dates in SEP/OCT it shows as 777. Also booked on the route in JAN and it shows as 777.

Did you look August 1st and remainder of August? Its a 787 until th Sept 7th schedule change as of now.

Remember advance schedules are simply place holders.

There is lots of movement on the 787 fleet, especially now the the mess of having to staff the type with a 3 airplane subfleet on the sUA side.
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RE: UA LAX 777 To 787 Transition?

Fri Apr 08, 2016 10:39 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 5):
Did you look August 1st and remainder of August? Its a 787 until th Sept 7th schedule change as of now.

Remember advance schedules are simply place holders

Got it. Thought long haul schedules were more set.
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RE: UA LAX 777 To 787 Transition?

Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:44 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 5):
There is lots of movement on the 787 fleet, especially now the the mess of having to staff the type with a 3 airplane subfleet on the sUA side.

There is really only 1 of the 777 types that can operate West Coast to Europe. Also the staffing is not different between the 2.
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RE: UA LAX 777 To 787 Transition?

Sat Apr 09, 2016 2:14 am

Quoting FlyDeltaJets (Reply 7):
There is really only 1 of the 777 types that can operate West Coast to Europe. Also the staffing is not different between the 2.

The staffing is very different. sUA v. sCO.
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RE: UA LAX 777 To 787 Transition?

Sat Apr 09, 2016 2:32 am

Quoting FlyDeltaJets (Reply 7):

Both 777 sub-fleets are more than capable of flying LAX-Europe. But as it is the post you are responding to is referring to the sUA 787 sub-fleet, where sUA will have three 787s by the summer. IIRC they're getting SFO-TPE back, so all LAX 787 flying will be sCO for the time being.
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RE: UA LAX 777 To 787 Transition?

Sat Apr 09, 2016 2:49 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 8):
The staffing is very different. sUA v. sCO.

There sCO 777s don't operate outside of the IAH or EWR hubs.
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RE: UA LAX 777 To 787 Transition?

Sat Apr 09, 2016 2:52 am

Quoting FlyDeltaJets (Reply 10):
There sCO 777s don't operate outside of the IAH or EWR hubs.

The 787s are a different story.
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RE: UA LAX 777 To 787 Transition?

Sat Apr 09, 2016 3:03 am

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 9):

There sUA 777s that operate out of IAD and on the Hawaii routes do not have the crew rest capabilities to operate West coast Europe.
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RE: UA LAX 777 To 787 Transition?

Sat Apr 09, 2016 3:46 am

Quoting FlyDeltaJets (Reply 10):
There sCO 777s don't operate outside of the IAH or EWR hubs.

Starting June 6th out of SFO as well.
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RE: UA LAX 777 To 787 Transition?

Sat Apr 09, 2016 4:15 am

Quoting FlyDeltaJets (Reply 10):

That's a scheduling decision, but there is no reson that they couldn't fly sCO 777s out of LAX and SFO. The pilots are integrated so any LAX or SFO based 777 pilot can fly them, and sCO has flight attendant bases in both cities, so there aren't any practical impediments to rotating them through LAX and SFO if they wanted to.

Quoting FlyDeltaJets (Reply 12):

Sure, the 77As can't, but both two class and three class 777-200ERs have no issues at all. You seemed to be suggesting that sCO 777s couldn't manage it?
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RE: UA LAX 777 To 787 Transition?

Sat Apr 09, 2016 11:38 am

Quoting FlyDeltaJets (Reply 7):
There is really only 1 of the 777 types that can operate West Coast to Europe. Also the staffing is not different between the 2.

sUA has 33 772ER aircraft that can easily do West Coast to Europe, all have crew rest facilities. the 22 sCO 777's
can also do it with ease, currently that fleet is tightly scheduled for long hauls from EWR.
 
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RE: UA LAX 777 To 787 Transition?

Sat Apr 09, 2016 7:14 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 13):
Starting June 6th out of SFO as well.

Only for the TLV route.
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