|Quoting tlecam (Reply 60):|
What is driving the tinking that Delta would order the 8MAX over the 320NEO? Reading through this thread, many people are looking at a CS / 737-800 or 738MAX order. WHy the 738 / 8MAX over the NEO?
will go with the best deal
having said that Airbus or Boeing alone simply won't be able to meet DL
's needs in the future. DL
will still use both OEMs.
|Quoting Polot (Reply 61):|
Because you can squeeze more seats in the 738 over the A320 (assuming equivalent comfort levels) and DL likes packing them in
I think its like two(?) seats with space flex for the 320. I don't see this being much of an issue.
|Quoting flyabr (Reply 70):|
The 789 lost to the A359 in the last WB RFP so really, does that aircraft have much of a chance at DL?
any of the three airplanes, 787, 330, 350, have equal chances every time DL
orders a wide body.
The airline operates basically every aircraft type known to man. They aren't going to all of a sudden change this.
If Boeing offers a better deal during the next order that is likely what DL
will go with. Airbus offered better terms and better delivery slots than Boeing. Had Boeing won the order it would have meant 777s to replace the 747s and 787s in 2020. (the same slots they have for 787-8s now would have been converted to -9s)
Also FWIW DL
is going to be doing the Trent 1000 engine in-house. (along with the 7000 and XWB)
|Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 73):|
Agreed. If DL puts out RFPs and only one vendor always wins, that surely raises a red flag for collusion. Otherwise why put out an RFP at all?
What is it with you?
No that isn't collusion. Not even close to it. Just stop with this, you don't know what you are talking about. You are just biased and upset DL
is ordering from anyone but Boeing.
We don't even hear a single word about Southwest from you, but God help us if someone orders an airbus. Move on already.
No I think you are the one that didn't read it. Even the one bullet point you are looking at doesn't apply to DL
, who owns aircraft from all four major OEMs.
|Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 77):|
So why is an RFP even necessary then? Couldn't DL just order straight from Airbus without an RFP? Putting out RFPs just to award to a single vendor is clear bid rigging to me.
So then you want the big 100 + 30 737-900ER order changed correct? Or the order that brought in your beloved 767-400ERs? Maybe the DOJ should force DL
to dump the 764 for more 330s, you know to make it fair.
Its called negotiations. Google it. Its not rigging, its not because they love this OEM or that OEM, its not because GE
was a creditor in BK or any other reason you typically give. DL
is running a business. Its just that simple.
C100s are going to happen more than likely also.
Also not sure DL
will roll out of the 787 order just yet. Rumor mill has it they are going to make a wide body order soon(ish) and it would make more sense to use that order as leverage then(and if they go back to more buses then transfer the order to more 737s.)
but thats JMO
|Quoting n7371f (Reply 88):|
DAL upper managers are aware the Bombardier order is going to happen. Recall that NWA was very close to an order before the merger. Many of those people back then are now in ATL.
Curious, can DL
do anything now with you not bringing NW
up? Its been how long since the merger?
|Quoting n7371f (Reply 88):|
Embraer 190 is still on, despite rumors that Boeing is going to pull favorable leasing of ex-Air Canada 190's to DAL.
Airlines don't just buy or lease airplanes and hope the OEM gives them the price. A contract was set for the E90 lease prices. That isn't something Boeing (or any other lessor) can just change. It might effect future pricing, but even that is unlikely. Boeing isn't going to keep 25 E90 on its books because they are butt hurt about DL
ordering Airbus, BBD, EMB, whatever.
Having said that, I don't remember anything about DL
leasing the 19 airplanes. I'm pretty sure they are buying them. (the above still applies)