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Kenya Airways 787 At LAX…Why?

Mon Apr 18, 2016 3:54 am

Saw in the LA spotters group that their was a Kenya Airways 787 at LAX. Why is it there? Possible look at new service?

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RE: Kenya Airways 787 At LAX…Why?

Mon Apr 18, 2016 3:59 am

Could be returning a lease. Aren't KQ getting rid of their 787's?
 
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RE: Kenya Airways 787 At LAX…Why?

Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:48 am

Quoting B747400ERF (Reply 1):
Could be returning a lease. Aren't KQ getting rid of their 787's?

I think 2 of them are going to Oman Air, but even Oman Air is not serving LAX, maybe some kind of charter, few weeks ago one of the dreamliners was flying non stop from NBO to VCV, so maybe this is the one in LAX doing some kind special flight.

Quoting theSFOspotter (Thread starter):
Possible look at new service?

Time ago KQ was considering NYC as first USA destination, I don't think LAX makes any sense for them, I see 0 chances, by the way KQ is not doing very good, a big number of staff is going to be jobless soon and they are even trying to relocate some B777 pilots in ET, but unions won't allow that easily.
 
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RE: Kenya Airways 787 At LAX…Why?

Mon Apr 18, 2016 6:05 am

Quoting migair54 (Reply 2):
Time ago KQ was considering NYC as first USA destination

It also considered MIA its first USA destination at some point, and there was even a consortium formed on the US end to assist them in financing an additional 777 to help make that happen.

Ultimately, as we can clearly see: nothing came of it though.
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RE: Kenya Airways 787 At LAX…Why?

Mon Apr 18, 2016 7:01 am

Quoting LAX772LR (Reply 3):
It also considered MIA its first USA destination at some point, and there was even a consortium formed on the US end to assist them in financing an additional 777 to help make that happen.

Yep some KLM MD11s and Air France B747s made a stop at LAX before to fly to VCV.
 
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RE: Kenya Airways 787 At LAX…Why?

Mon Apr 18, 2016 1:55 pm

Given that they are "Wet" leasing pilots to ET, is it possible they wet leased a B787 to ET for a service?
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RE: Kenya Airways 787 At LAX…Why?

Mon Apr 18, 2016 2:02 pm

The plane is to be repainted at VCV into Oman Air colors. The new registration will be A4O-SZ
 
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RE: Kenya Airways 787 At LAX…Why?

Mon Apr 18, 2016 3:10 pm

Quoting qm001 (Reply 5):
Given that they are "Wet" leasing pilots to ET, is it possible they wet leased a B787 to ET for a service?

No, the pilots going to ET are B777 pilots and KQ no longer fly the B777, that's why they are trying to send the pilots to ET, but we will see if that finally work out, pilot union in KQ is very strong and always ready to fight.

Quoting 910A (Reply 6):
The plane is to be repainted at VCV into Oman Air colors. The new registration will be A4O-SZ

Is it the same one that flew a few days ago from NBO to VCV in a direct flight or is it the second one??
 
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RE: Kenya Airways 787 At LAX…Why?

Mon Apr 18, 2016 3:13 pm

Quoting migair54 (Reply 7):
Is it the same one that flew a few days ago from NBO to VCV in a direct flight or is it the second one??

The second one. Oman Air got the first one (A40-SY) early this month.
 
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RE: Kenya Airways 787 At LAX…Why?

Mon Apr 18, 2016 5:35 pm

Quoting 910A (Reply 6):
The plane is to be repainted at VCV into Oman Air colors. The new registration will be A4O-SZ

Perhaps the crew landed at LAX to clear customs ?
 
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RE: Kenya Airways 787 At LAX…Why?

Tue Apr 19, 2016 2:11 am

Quoting 910A (Reply 6):
The plane is to be repainted at VCV into Oman Air colors. The new registration will be A4O-SZ

Yep, this is it. Was supposed to fly to VCV, not sure why it ended up at LAX.

Quoting Sooner787 (Reply 9):
Perhaps the crew landed at LAX to clear customs ?

Other international carriers fly direct to VCV though, remember SQ 773 a month ago?
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RE: Kenya Airways 787 At LAX…Why?

Tue Apr 19, 2016 2:17 am

Quoting Norcal773 (Reply 10):
Other international carriers fly direct to VCV though, remember SQ 773 a month ago?

International operations: U.S. CUSTOMS USER FEE ARPT. CUSTOMS OFFICER AVBL
1700-0100Z++ MON-FRI 760-243-1925, AFTER HRS CALL
760-490-8651.

Maybe they didn't want to pay the higher fee or wanted to arrive in off hours?
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RE: Kenya Airways 787 At LAX…Why?

Tue Apr 19, 2016 4:03 am

Is the repainting process of a 787 different from any other plane? From what I understand you can't use the same chemicals to strip other planes on a 787.
 
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RE: Kenya Airways 787 At LAX…Why?

Thu Apr 21, 2016 6:16 pm

Quoting N1120A (Reply 11):
International operations: U.S. CUSTOMS USER FEE ARPT. CUSTOMS OFFICER AVBL
1700-0100Z++ MON-FRI 760-243-1925, AFTER HRS CALL
760-490-8651.

Maybe they didn't want to pay the higher fee or wanted to arrive in off hours?

Good point, but then again you add landing fees at LAX which can't be cheap and you wonder if it makes a difference. Especially considering their first to be repainted flew directly to VCV during the day.
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