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RE: Irish 6/16: Dreams With Wings

Sun Apr 24, 2016 3:01 pm

Quoting Cipango (Reply 49):

All those BA Ex:EU runs  
 
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RE: Irish 6/16: Dreams With Wings

Sun Apr 24, 2016 3:17 pm

Hi to you all!

I am following 9H-MTF on flightradar: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/9h-mtf

Any idea why the a/c is flying BFS (ferry) -DUB-DOS?! maybe sub-charter work?! THX!
 
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RE: Irish 6/16: Dreams With Wings

Sun Apr 24, 2016 6:03 pm

EI winter schedule for T/A shaping up to be a good one and plenty of off season growth which is good to see!

November, December = 38 additional weekly flights (x19 each way)
Newark - Daily
Hartford - 4 Weekly
Los Angeles - 4 Weekly
Chicago - 2 Daily (+4 weekly, 3 B752, 1 A33X)

January, February = 38 additional weekly flights (x19 each way)
Newark - 6 Weekly
Hartford - 4 Weekly
Los Angeles - 3 Weekly
Chicago - 10 Weekly (+3 weekly, 3 B752)
Boston - 10 weekly (+3 weekly)

Of course all subject to change but it's been updated in the last couple weeks/days

[Edited 2016-04-24 11:23:48]

[Edited 2016-04-24 11:24:50]
 
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RE: Irish 6/16: Dreams With Wings

Sun Apr 24, 2016 6:24 pm

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 37):
Does anyone know why EI aren't installing Wi-Fi on the 757s?

I'd say it's cost, the fact the aircraft aren't owned or even operated by Aer Lingus and the type of routes they mainly serve.

The cost to install wifi is still very high and when you consider the 757s only have 12 or so Business Class seats it's clear there would be very little return for Aer Lingus. The same can be said for economy, it's only around 160 seats and the uptake for paid wifi must be quite low so again getting a return on investment would be a struggle.

The routes themselves were initially lower yielding SNN-BOS/JFK and DUB-YYZ and while it's fair to say they've branched out use of the 757 to other routes, there's usually an A330 alternative for the more savvy business passengers who want the wifi. In the grand scheme of things I doubt it's a major factor for most bookings.

The 757s will have a shorter life, the next generation narrowbody transatlantic aircraft will probably have wifi installed as standard. That's if IAG ever get their finger out and order something for Aer Lingus!
 
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RE: Irish 6/16: Dreams With Wings

Sun Apr 24, 2016 6:52 pm

Quoting Jamie2k9 (Reply 52):
Newark - Daily
Hartford - 4 Weekly
Los Angeles - 4 Weekly
Chicago - 2 Daily (+4 weekly, 3 B752, 1 A33X)

I didn't think the B757 could fly to ORD in the winter due to the wind!

I'm rather surprised to see EWR daily and with a A330. Was expecting a B757 and 5 weekly.

Am I correct in saying that BDL begins as 5 weekly followed by daily in oct and then 4 weekly from Nov?

Is SFO, JFK, BOS, IAD, MCO and YYZ the same as W15/16?
 
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RE: Irish 6/16: Dreams With Wings

Sun Apr 24, 2016 7:02 pm

Quoting EI121 (Reply 54):
Is SFO, JFK, BOS, IAD, MCO and YYZ the same as W15/16?

No changes showing, did EI announce IAD would operate year round a few months ago, currently still only showing unti after New Year but for some reason I think they stated it would be year round this winter but I could be confusing it with the Nov-Jan announcement for this winter.

Quoting EI121 (Reply 54):
I didn't think the B757 could fly to ORD in the winter due to the wind!

Down to fly anyway, AA operated ORD with B752 in winter for years and I don't think there was major problems.

Quoting EI121 (Reply 54):
I'm rather surprised to see EWR daily and with a A330. Was expecting a B757 and 5 weekly.

They had it dropped to x6 from mid November but guess UA response scuppered those plans. I am a little surprised at the freq as well but lots could change.

Quoting EI121 (Reply 54):
Am I correct in saying that BDL begins as 5 weekly followed by daily in oct and then 4 weekly from Nov?

The first week is x4 and then daily before returning to x4 for winter.
 
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RE: Irish 6/16: Dreams With Wings

Sun Apr 24, 2016 7:28 pm

Quoting Jamie2k9 (Reply 52):
January, February = 38 additional weekly flights (x19 each way)
Newark - 6 Weekly
Hartford - 4 Weekly
Los Angeles - 3 Weekly
Chicago - 10 Weekly ( 3 weekly, 3 B752)
Boston - 10 weekly ( 3 weekly)

A lot of additional East Coast capacity. Here's hoping it all goes well!

Quoting Jamie2k9 (Reply 55):
Quoting EI121 (Reply 54):
Am I correct in saying that BDL begins as 5 weekly followed by daily in oct and then 4 weekly from Nov?

The first week is x4 and then daily before returning to x4 for winter.

Will be interesting to see how this route performs, it could play a big role in EI deciding to add more of these secondary cities and creating an A321neo TATL fleet. One only needs to do a few dummy BDL-Europe flight searches to see the much-reduced journey times and lower flight prices which this EI flight is opening up ex-BDL. Currently most BDL-Europe itineraries involve backtracking via 1 or 2 hubs, long stopovers and often at (Y return) fares in excess of €1000/$1120.
 
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RE: Irish 6/16: Dreams With Wings

Sun Apr 24, 2016 7:42 pm

Quoting 321neo (Reply 56):

Only one I would be slightly worried about is Newark, all other routes will be just fine. Interesting to see if we see any new connections in Europe or existing changes to feed these.
 
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RE: Irish 6/16: Dreams With Wings

Sun Apr 24, 2016 8:17 pm

Quoting Jamie2k9 (Reply 55):
No changes showing, did EI announce IAD would operate year round a few months ago, currently still only showing unti after New Year but for some reason I think they stated it would be year round this winter but I could be confusing it with the Nov-Jan announcement for this winter.

The was a post on the Aer Lingus new section on this a few month ago, but it was taken down rather quickly.

Quoting Jamie2k9 (Reply 55):
Down to fly anyway, AA operated ORD with B752 in winter for years and I don't think there was major problems.

Wonder if we could ever see a return of AA doing ORD year round..?

Quoting Jamie2k9 (Reply 55):
They had it dropped to x6 from mid November but guess UA response scuppered those plans. I am a little surprised at the freq as well but lots could change.
Quoting Jamie2k9 (Reply 57):
Only one I would be slightly worried about is Newark, all other routes will be just fine. Interesting to see if we see any new connections in Europe or existing changes to feed these.

Im with you on this. I think EWR was a brave and risky move. I know BA serve EWR and JFK with multiple frequencies but the UK has a substantially larger market. I guess all we can do is wait and see.

Quoting Jamie2k9 (Reply 55):
The first week is x4 and then daily before returning to x4 for winter.

Seems to be a rather odd was of launching a route. However it is coming into the winter season so probably best approach. Does anyone know how bookings are going for this? From random dates in October and November the BDL-DUB leg seems to be selling ok. The DUB-BDL not so well however. But I know seat maps mean nothing.
 
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RE: Irish 6/16: Dreams With Wings

Sun Apr 24, 2016 8:30 pm

Never know, it is an incredibly long shot, but if EWR doesn't go thrillingly (and I share your concern Jamie), maybe OpenSkies can be put on there to see if it can work that way...
Types flown: A319, A320, B734, B738, B744, B77W and E195.
Airports flown to/from: DUB, JFK, LGW, LHR, LIS, LTN, PDL, SEN and STN.
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RE: Irish 6/16: Dreams With Wings

Sun Apr 24, 2016 8:58 pm

Quoting EI121 (Reply 58):
The was a post on the Aer Lingus new section on this a few month ago, but it was taken down rather quickly.

I did do a search of the blog as well!

Quoting EI121 (Reply 58):
Im with you on this. I think EWR was a brave and risky move. I know BA serve EWR and JFK with multiple frequencies but the UK has a substantially larger market. I guess all we can do is wait and see.
Quoting A60Stock (Reply 59):
Never know, it is an incredibly long shot, but if EWR doesn't go thrillingly (and I share your concern Jamie), maybe OpenSkies can be put on there to see if it can work that way...

Overall I think it should do well for EI at least seasonally however if they get a fifth B752 it could change a lot the following winter. Need to give it time!

Quoting EI121 (Reply 58):
Seems to be a rather odd was of launching a route. However it is coming into the winter season so probably best approach. Does anyone know how bookings are going for this? From random dates in October and November the BDL-DUB leg seems to be selling ok. The DUB-BDL not so well however. But I know seat maps mean nothing.

Just came down to A333 arrival dates.

[Edited 2016-04-24 13:59:47]
 
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RE: Irish 6/16: Dreams With Wings

Sun Apr 24, 2016 9:47 pm

Quoting Jamie2k9 (Reply 60):
Just came down to A333 arrival dates.

Are there any expected delivery dates for these two aircraft?
 
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RE: Irish 6/16: Dreams With Wings

Sun Apr 24, 2016 10:10 pm

Quoting 321neo (Reply 61):
Are there any expected delivery dates for these two aircraft?

Late August/ Early Sept are the best estimates at present.
 
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RE: Irish 6/16: Dreams With Wings

Mon Apr 25, 2016 12:45 am

Quoting 321neo (Reply 35):
Gotta love an inconsistent product offering.

I agree on this point - although the "core" offering is the same and they finally corrected the J seat issue on the 757, making the entire fleet completely consistent would set themselves apart from other carriers. Instead we find ourselves justifying it because other airlines do the same and that's not a way to distinguish yourself from your competition.

Quoting Shamrock350 (Reply 53):
Does anyone know why EI aren't installing Wi-Fi on the 757s?

Clearly it's costly to do it on leased aircraft and the routes they fly are primarily leisure routes, but they should invest in WiFi for the one 757 assigned to the daytime JFK-DUB (102) flight. This flight is SCREAMING for WiFi, more so than any other EB TA flights.

Quoting EI121 (Reply 58):
Only one I would be slightly worried about is Newark, all other routes will be just fine. Interesting to see if we see any new connections in Europe or existing changes to feed these.

The only reason I can figure out for the EWR route is when UA switched all ops to EWR, this was the only way they could maintain their joint venture/inter-line agreement with UA in the NY area.
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RE: Irish 6/16: Dreams With Wings

Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:13 am

Quoting aerlingusa330 (Reply 63):
but they should invest in WiFi for the one 757 assigned to the daytime JFK-DUB (102) flight

Its not the same aircraft flying the route daily. Obviously there will be several days in a row where lets say EI-LBS flies it, but there is fleet rotation and a few days later you'll find its EI-LBT operating the route. If they were to install wifi for one specific flight, then they would be stuck with one aircraft for one route, which isn't an efficient way to run an operation, especially an operation with only 5 aircraft.
 
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RE: Irish 6/16: Dreams With Wings

Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:50 am

Quoting aerlingusa330 (Reply 63):
but they should invest in WiFi for the one 757 assigned to the daytime JFK-DUB (102) flight. This flight is SCREAMING for WiFi, more so than any other EB TA flights.

You are nearly better to not have it then to promise it then on the day a A/C change and its not on it. I could see this happening quite a bit and bad PR.

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Belfast airport bosses are jetting into Poland this week in a bid to attract key new tourist and business routes - including a fresh German link - to Northern Ireland.
Routes Europe - which will be held in Belfast next year - will see 100 airlines and around 1,200 aviation experts from across the globe, meet in Krakow.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/bu...t-new-tourist-routes-34645473.html
 
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RE: Irish 6/16: Dreams With Wings

Mon Apr 25, 2016 8:34 am

Quoting RRTrent (Reply 64):
Obviously there will be several days in a row where lets say EI-LBS flies it, but there is fleet rotation and a few days later you'll find its EI-LBT operating the route. If they were to install wifi for one specific flight, then they would be stuck with one aircraft for one route, which isn't an efficient way to run an operation, especially an operation with only 5 aircraft.

Particularly with tech delays not uncommon on the three aircraft currently in service. Just this morning, EI110 JFK-SNN diverted to YQX with a tech problem.

 
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RE: Irish 6/16: Dreams With Wings

Mon Apr 25, 2016 8:55 am

Quoting Jamie2k9 (Reply 57):
Only one I would be slightly worried about is Newark, all other routes will be just fine. Interesting to see if we see any new connections in Europe or existing changes to feed these.
Quoting aerlingusa330 (Reply 63):
The only reason I can figure out for the EWR route is when UA switched all ops to EWR, this was the only way they could maintain their joint venture/inter-line agreement with UA in the NY area.

If/when Aer Lingus is integrated into the oneworld transatlantic ATI/JV, I wouldn't be surprised to see Aer Lingus' DUB-EWR shifted to a second daily DUB-PHL (on top of the AA flight). While PHL is obviously a smaller O&D market, it has no competition and obviously it's a huge AA hub offering connectivity throughout the eastern U.S. comparable to United at EWR.
 
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RE: Irish 6/16: Dreams With Wings

Mon Apr 25, 2016 9:05 am

Quoting A60Stock (Reply 59):
Never know, it is an incredibly long shot, but if EWR doesn't go thrillingly (and I share your concern Jamie), maybe OpenSkies can be put on there to see if it can work that way...


I do think EWR seems brave. On one had BA operate 8+ daily services LHR-JFK (+ 4 AA 77W's) yet only 2x daily to EWR. Obviously these are very different markets, but the difference in fequency is startling. On the other EI have been to EWR before and clearly feel that there is something there. Choosing the A330 over the 757 also suggest EI are confident about their prospects at EWR.

[Edited 2016-04-25 02:17:20]
 
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RE: Irish 6/16: Dreams With Wings

Mon Apr 25, 2016 9:43 am

Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 68):
On the other EI have been to EWR before and clearly feel that there is something there.

It was 9/11 that closed that route. I still have the promo brochure for it at home with the Twin Towers on it ! Had that event not happened I feel it would have done well and continued even during the recent recession ( although scaled back a bit ) .
 
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RE: Irish 6/16: Dreams With Wings

Mon Apr 25, 2016 9:55 am

Quoting RRTrent (Reply 64):
especially an operation with only 5 aircraft.

4 B757 in the fleet from May 2016.....small possibility of another B757 in 2017, that is all. Lets not let a fluff/gossip website be giving us our info on aviation matters. Rumours are bad enough in recent years as it is......
 
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RE: Irish 6/16: Dreams With Wings

Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:15 am

Quoting Eagleboy (Reply 70):
4 B757 in the fleet from May 2016

My mention of 5 was a typo yes.. I don't read the "gossip" website you have referenced but I'll guess they only ran the story because they had run out of Conor McGregor things to write about  

Although, from what I've heard, which thankfully isn't the gossip site mentioned, a 5th 757 will be arriving in 17. you never know, they might have an avgeek in their ranks
 
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RE: Irish 6/16: Dreams With Wings

Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:27 am

Quoting 321neo (Reply 66):

The Lingus Source says it diverted into Gander due to a medical situation on board
 
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RE: Irish 6/16: Dreams With Wings

Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:43 am

Quoting bx737 (Reply 72):
The Lingus Source says it diverted into Gander due to a medical situation on board

Hopefully it wasn't something serious.

The two videos below are of an EI 757 diverting to YQX back in December. One view is from the airfield and another is from onboard - makes for some interesting viewing!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAywJeFO8L0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nz2cq5Fx_T4
 
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RE: Irish 6/16: Dreams With Wings

Mon Apr 25, 2016 11:29 am

Its strange - I somehow see EWR as being higher risk and more surprising than BDL! Of course BDL has had a ton of "Hello money" on both sides of the route, but like EWR has no feed on the US side.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 69):
It was 9/11 that closed that route.

Indeed. I think you're right about EWR. Aren't there a lot of Irish companies and US tech companies in the New Jersey area? Certainly EI had high hopes for the route first time around. EI clearly feel that they need more capacity into the NYC area and splitting operations across NYC clearly suits their needs. I imagine EWR will mainly be O&D and the difference between EWR and JFK isn't much in terms of getting to Manhattan.

Quoting 321neo (Reply 66):
Particularly with tech delays not uncommon on the three aircraft currently in service. Just this morning, EI110 JFK-SNN diverted to YQX with a tech problem.

Except it was a medical diversion, apparently. Clearly you don't like what happening at EI at the moment. If its not the seats on the long-haul fleet, its the baggage on the EIR fleet. I've flown over 50 EIR flights and never seen passengers have their hand luggage follow them on another flight, on occasion it has been gate-checked or "put in the hold" once on-board. This usually means crew put the bag in the storage area accessible via the rear galley. Its not as slick as the new FR procedure for hand baggage, which works very well IMHO and provides a good incentive for buying priority boarding - hand luggage is "guaranteed" to stay with you in the cabin.
 
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RE: Irish 6/16: Dreams With Wings

Mon Apr 25, 2016 11:57 am

Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 74):
Clearly you don't like what happening at EI at the moment. If its not the seats on the long-haul fleet, its the baggage on the EIR fleet.

Should anybody be content with inconsistent products across such a small operation? No need to make things personal but I'm simply drawing attention to items which I feel may be of interest to other users on this thread.

Perhaps there are more substantial topics than talking about minor seat differences, connections via DUB with EI etc., but IMHO these are pretty relevant considering the changes occurring at EI at the moment.

The B757 divert to YQX this morning was initially reported elsewhere online as a tech divert, however as has been confirmed it was in fact a medical emergency.

Nevertheless there have been a number of tech-related EI 757 incidents in recent months, most recently two weeks ago when a Titan B752 was brought in to operate the YYZ flight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlBbRWa6uS0

If you feel there are topics more worthy of discussion then you are free to contribute, like any other user.
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Why Bradley won its airport tug-of-war for Aer Lingus

When Aer Lingus launches trans-Atlantic service from Connecticut's Bradley International Airport to its Irish home turf in September, more will be at stake than trying regularly to fill seats for its nonstop, seven-hour flights...

http://www.hartfordbusiness.com/arti...r-aer-lingus#.Vx33k0o2hpg.twitter[

Previously Unidentified Customer Trident Jet Orders Four More Bombardier CRJ900 Aircraft Increasing Firm Orders to 12

The aircraft are assigned to and operated by CityJet on a wet lease basis – which means it provides aircraft and crews -- on behalf of SAS (Scandinavian Airlines).

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BELFAST TO DUBAI – EMIRATES DISCUSS DIRECT FLIGHT!

A senior delegation from Emirates, one of the fastest growing airlines in the world, spent two days in Northern Ireland last week amid increasing speculation that it is “seriously considering” launching a new direct air link from Belfast International Airport to Dubai…

https://thetravelnewsblog.wordpress....ai-emirates-discuss-direct-flight/

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RE: Irish 6/16: Dreams With Wings

Mon Apr 25, 2016 12:11 pm

Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 74):
I imagine EWR will mainly be O&D and the difference between EWR and JFK isn't much in terms of getting to Manhattan.

Indeed I actually find EWR easier than JFK in many ways. I took the NJ Transit from EWR last October to Manhattan and was so easy.
 
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Mon Apr 25, 2016 1:03 pm

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Both Bradley and Aer Lingus have economic-development ambitions. In recent years, Aer Lingus has invested millions, Butler said, to reposition its Dublin base as a hub for its flights of Boeing 757 and Airbus A380 jetliners from the U.S. and other overseas destinations to deposit passengers, who then board its short-haul, Boeing 737s to destinations throughout Europe.

EI A380 and 737s? It spoils an otherwise reasonable article. It seems EI is engaging with the region and making good use of the marketing money ponied by both ends. I've heard a lot of ads on RTE Radio - BDL features heavily, LAX too. I presume there is marketing support from the DAA for BDL, but is LAX elegible for any marketing support or reduced charges, with ET already operating?

Quoting 321neo (Reply 75):
Should anybody be content with inconsistent products across such a small operation? No need to make things personal but I'm simply drawing attention to items which I feel may be of interest to other users on this thread.

In fairness, EIs long haul fleet is always a welcomed discussion here! I don't disagree with you that cabins would be identical across a fleet. What I don't understand is what the proposed solution would be to remedy the situation? Tear out and replace every Y seat currently in the fleet? When the product and AVOD content are all but identical regardless of which specific aircraft operates on the day I struggle to see the inconsistency.
There are inconsistencies across the short-haul fleet too. The ex IB A320s have Recaro seats, some A320s have updated seat covers, some don't. As for the EIR fleet, the 600s have two different seats, the 500s another type again and the rest are a mix of everything. Some even have different seats on the same aircraft! The issue is that manufacturers are constantly updating their product lines to be lighter, less maintenance intensive, offer the latest in AVOD, etc. While the EI fleet is small, it's has been acquired or refurbished over nearly a decade, which is probably why there is a mix of seats and technology.
 
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RE: Irish 6/16: Dreams With Wings

Mon Apr 25, 2016 2:11 pm

Quoting 321neo (Reply 75):
BELFAST TO DUBAI – EMIRATES DISCUSS DIRECT FLIGHT!

A senior delegation from Emirates, one of the fastest growing airlines in the world, spent two days in Northern Ireland last week amid increasing speculation that it is “seriously considering” launching a new direct air link from Belfast International Airport to Dubai…

https://thetravelnewsblog.wordpress....ai-emirates-discuss-direct-flight/

I would be rather surprised if EK launched Belfast. Ive heard that a they get a lot of pax from NI for there DUB flights. I think any launch into NI would be damaging to the DUB routes.

The only carrier I could see launching Belfast is QR.
 
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RE: Irish 6/16: Dreams With Wings

Mon Apr 25, 2016 2:42 pm

Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 77):
EI A380 and 737s? It spoils an otherwise reasonable article. It seems EI is engaging with the region and making good use of the marketing money ponied by both ends. I've heard a lot of ads on RTE Radio - BDL features heavily, LAX too. I presume there is marketing support from the DAA for BDL, but is LAX elegible for any marketing support or reduced charges, with ET already operating?

TV/Radio adds early in the year were almost exclusively for LAX, now it's generally BDL and EWR.

Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 74):
I imagine EWR will mainly be O&D and the difference between EWR and JFK isn't much in terms of getting to Manhattan.

Probably however having feed on the US side would be a help however that's not going to happen.

Quoting commavia (Reply 67):
If/when Aer Lingus is integrated into the oneworld transatlantic ATI/JV, I wouldn't be surprised to see Aer Lingus' DUB-EWR shifted to a second daily DUB-PHL (on top of the AA flight). While PHL is obviously a smaller O&D market, it has no competition and obviously it's a huge AA hub offering connectivity throughout the eastern U.S. comparable to United at EWR.

Not so sure about that, feel CLT and PHL need a little longer to fully adjust to A333's in summer.
 
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RE: Irish 6/16: Dreams With Wings

Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:02 pm

Quoting EI121 (Reply 78):

I would be rather surprised if EK launched Belfast.

Cant see it happening and would seriously eat into the figures from DUB.

Quoting EI121 (Reply 78):
The only carrier I could see launching Belfast is QR.

BFS had been talking to them for a while but all has gone quiet.
 
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Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:05 pm

It will be wonderful seeing the new A350 two years hence; what a banner day that will be when the first is delivered!

I'm not sure whether BOS would be the FIRST place the new plane would be used (training) or the absolute LAST! A case could be made for either!
 
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RE: Irish 6/16: Dreams With Wings

Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:45 pm

Now that BA have their codes on EI flights to US, how can you book them with a BA code? If you look up LHR-JFK on the BA website one of the options is via DUB using the BA code on the transatlantic sector, but if you look up DUB-JFK you only get BA or AA on the transatlantic sector
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RE: Irish 6/16: Dreams With Wings

Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:57 pm

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 81):
I'm not sure whether BOS would be the FIRST place the new plane would be used (training) or the absolute LAST! A case could be made for either!

IF the A350's eventually arrive in green in 2018 they will be allocated on West Coast routes I would expect. perhaps a few rotations DUB-AGP-DUB on a trial basis firstly however.
 
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RE: Irish 6/16: Dreams With Wings

Mon Apr 25, 2016 8:03 pm

Quoting EIRules (Reply 82):
if you look up DUB-JFK you only get BA or AA on the transatlantic sector

One itinerary I got with this search before was DUB-YYZ with EI, connecting onto an AA regional flight to JFK. There were no options for the direct flights (which of course do exist)!
 
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RE: Irish 6/16: Dreams With Wings

Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:11 am

Quoting EIRules (Reply 82):

The consolidators can book them in a GDS. For instance the EI 145 DUB-LAX is bookable as BA6123.


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Tinkler is named new chairman at Stobart Air group

Stobart Air has appointed Stobart Group chief executive Andrew Tinkler as its new chairman following the sudden departure of former Ryanair executive Tim Jeans from the role he'd held for just six months.

http://www.independent.ie/business/i...at-stobart-air-group-34658884.html

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€232,200 in funding for Donegal Airport welcomed

Funding for Donegal Airport, which is part of a €1.2m allocation to regional airports has been announced today by Minister for Transport Tourism and Sport Paschal Donohoe.

http://www.donegalnow.com/news/e2322...for-donegal-airport-welcomed/87513
 
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RE: Irish 6/16: Dreams With Wings

Tue Apr 26, 2016 3:05 pm

"A380 could work for IAG at Iberia and Aer Lingus: Walsh"

IAG is examining the feasibility of allocating a small fleet of Airbus A380s to its Spanish division Iberia and possibly an aircraft with its recently acquired Irish arm Aer Lingus.

Source: http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...at-iberia-and-aer-lingus-w-424428/

WW knows the business inside out, but I'm rather shocked with this.

Even it EI did acquire 1 or 2 A380s, other then JFK/BOS or SFO I don't see it being feasible for any other route.

Interesting Read.
 
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RE: Irish 6/16: Dreams With Wings

Tue Apr 26, 2016 3:29 pm

Quoting EI121 (Reply 86):
Even it EI did acquire 1 or 2 A380s, other then JFK/BOS or SFO I don't see it being feasible for any other route.

In fairness, they could fill it daily to JFK and BOS and probably MCO in the summer too. Unfortunately however; I cant see it happening.

[Edited 2016-04-26 09:15:55]
 
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RE: Irish 6/16: Dreams With Wings

Tue Apr 26, 2016 3:37 pm

Quoting EI121 (Reply 86):
WW knows the business inside out, but I'm rather shocked with this.

Wow - I thought they'd have taken the BA approach of frequency over capacity. An A380 in IB or EI configuration would be 2 class. The EK 2 class A380s have 58J and 557Y. That's a whole lot of seats they need to fill without trashing yields

[Edited 2016-04-26 08:38:34]
 
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RE: Irish 6/16: Dreams With Wings

Tue Apr 26, 2016 4:17 pm

Quoting EI121 (Reply 86):

Well for IB it certainly would work on certain routes. For EI it may work if we get to a stage of growth on JFK or SFO that warrants it but I will believe it when I see it.

ET is the one to watch on TATL out of DUB over the next two years also.
 
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RE: Irish 6/16: Dreams With Wings

Tue Apr 26, 2016 4:23 pm

Quoting VFRonTop (Reply 88):
Wow - I thought they'd have taken the BA approach of frequency over capacity. An A380 in IB or EI configuration would be 2 class. The EK 2 class A380s have 58J and 557Y. That's a whole lot of seats they need to fill without trashing yields

The one advantage I see here is that IB could use it during the Winter on Southern Hemisphere routes, of which it has many - South America primarily, but possibly also SA. Maybe this could be away of strengthening the DubHub, improving the flow of pax through DUB from the UK regions and major European centres.

It comes as a huge surprise that they'd even think of the A380, but very interesting!

I agree a two class A380 layout is most likely. It would be pretty much twice the size of the aircraft now operating the route, but let's not forget this did happen before! OK, 1971 was a whole world away in aviation terms and today's EI would have the advantage of very significant feed driven by a big hitting owner. From BA's perspective, it probably makes sense to have budget pax going through DUB rather than LHR; with the retirement of BA's 744s, it will probably move to smaller types with a higher proportion of F and J/Y+ seating, so Y class pax (and connecting pax from regions) would go via DUB.
 
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RE: Irish 6/16: Dreams With Wings

Tue Apr 26, 2016 5:10 pm

I think Mr Walsh is just throwing it out there to help explain the thinking process at IAG now that it's a larger group. Still, it would be incredible to see an A380 in Aer Lingus colours, however unlikely it may be!

On a completely different note, I had another nice flight with Ryanair yesterday. The flight was KUN-LGW so not exactly Irish related by I cannot fault the Kaunas based cabin crew, they were friendly and hard working throughout the entire flight, nothing was any trouble and everything was done with a smile and plenty of charm.

The only downside was the menu again, I was pretty hungry by the time we were in the air and opted for a panini and two small cans of Pepsi, it came to €10.50 in total! The higher quality, better presented stuff on Aer Lingus would be €7 maximum but at least Ryanair had no issues with stock levels...

Landed a full 30 minutes early as well which is always nice!

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RE: Irish 6/16: Dreams With Wings

Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:26 pm

Quoting EI121 (Reply 86):
"A380 could work for IAG at Iberia and Aer Lingus: Walsh"
Quoting EI121 (Reply 86):
WW knows the business inside out, but I'm rather shocked with this.
Quoting Shamrock350 (Reply 91):
I think Mr Walsh is just throwing it out there to help explain the thinking process at IAG now that it's a larger group......

I think WW is just having some fun with the media at this point, perhaps you are right that this is being used as an illustrative example of the thought process's at work at the top level in IAG. Looking at the group as a conglomerate of independent operated companies rather than a large multinational holding group.
(Not sure if my haphazard business analogy makes any sense)
 
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RE: Irish 6/16: Dreams With Wings

Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:21 pm

I bet the tabloid media is getting ready to have a field day over this for tomorrow's papers...
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RE: Irish 6/16: Dreams With Wings

Tue Apr 26, 2016 10:23 pm

I don't see it happening myself, if they manage to get the A350's they will be doing well....

Would I be the only person who doesn't really like the monstrosity that is the A380, mind you I have not traveled on board one but I have no desire to either.
 
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RE: Irish 6/16: Dreams With Wings

Tue Apr 26, 2016 10:56 pm

I think there may be something in what Willie Walsh is saying.

It's clear from both comments by IAG in respect of fleet planning and the approach of IAG airlines to timetabling and routes that they are looking at maximum flexibility in their fleet to adjust capacity to meet peak demand and avoid excess capacity during periods of lower demand.

As IAG develops common standards for its fleet, it is feasible that the A380 could be moved between all IAG member airlines to meet demand peaks. Though, that could require some new ways of working between IAG airlines which have historically always had their own individual operations.
 
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RE: Irish 6/16: Dreams With Wings

Wed Apr 27, 2016 1:55 am

Quoting Jamie2k9 (Reply 94):

Would I be the only person who doesn't really like the monstrosity that is the A380, mind you I have not traveled on board one but I have no desire to either.

It's not pretty, but the in-flight experience is excellent. It's quiet, comfortable and passenger friendly. There's loads of storage for everyone's cabin baggage.
Is one A380 better than two A333s, for example on DUBJFK? Assuming EI were looking to add capacity byond the current levels and the daylight flights were year-round on A330s?
 
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RE: Irish 6/16: Dreams With Wings

Wed Apr 27, 2016 2:51 am

From the BOS thread looks like EI will be moving from terminal E to C next week in BOS. Pretty big moment as I believe they have been using terminal E since it opened in 1974. I'm guessing they will be sharing a lounge with EK and B6's mint flights? As someone who flies through often I think the facilities in terminal C are nicer, more restaurants, shops, and places to charge your phone, however the terminal feels smaller in the gate areas.
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RE: Irish 6/16: Dreams With Wings

Wed Apr 27, 2016 3:38 am

Quoting OA260 (Reply 89):

ET is the one to watch on TATL out of DUB over the next two years also

More TATL services by ET?
 
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RE: Irish 6/16: Dreams With Wings

Wed Apr 27, 2016 5:36 am

Does anyone know / think when AerClub finally launches, will BA gold & silver get the same benefits, ie lounge access on transatlantic, excess bags etc?
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