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WN Kicks Photographer Carrying Drone Off Plane

Mon Apr 25, 2016 8:35 pm

"There was no more overhead space left on the plane for his DJI drone and so he was asked to check it. When he head this, he respectfully informed the flight attendant that Li-po batteries are to be carried onto planes, not placed in cargo according to the FAA. Shortly after, he was called forward and kicked off the plane at the express request of the pilot.

Nobody. Not a single person at Southwest knew the FAA regulations; the operations supervisor wouldn’t even believe the FAA regulations he was showing him on the FAA.gov website.

The most frustrating thing here, and Smith says as much, is that he was penalized for being responsible. “If I had said nothing, [the flight attendant] would have taken that bag, checked it in underneath the plane, I would have flown home no problem at all,” he says in the video. “But I took safety first […] by obeying the regulation I got kicked off the airplane.”

To Southwest’s credit, the aforementioned Ops Supervisor did take care of Smith afterwards (and was quite embarrassed by the sound of it). But the fact that nobody affiliated with Southwest even knew the legal requirements in this case is, at the very least, a bit troubling."

Full story:

http://petapixel.com/2016/04/25/phot...ne-trying-responsible-drone-owner/

Guess WN kicking people off planes is all the rage these days...
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RE: WN Kicks Photographer Carrying Drone Off Plane

Mon Apr 25, 2016 8:48 pm

How practical would it be to remove the batteries at the airport or would it need to be done before leaving home?.
 
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RE: WN Kicks Photographer Carrying Drone Off Plane

Mon Apr 25, 2016 8:59 pm

The bag could not legally be checked because of the batteries. The bag could not legally be carried on because there was no room. Therefore, the bag and its owner had to deplane. What am I missing here?
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RE: WN Kicks Photographer Carrying Drone Off Plane

Mon Apr 25, 2016 8:59 pm

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 2):
The bag could not legally be carried on because there was no room. Therefore, the bag and its owner had to deplane. What am I missing here?

They could have checked literally anyone else's bag and avoided the situation completely.
 
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RE: WN Kicks Photographer Carrying Drone Off Plane

Mon Apr 25, 2016 9:19 pm

Quoting Rdh3e (Reply 3):
They could have checked literally anyone else's bag and avoided the situation completely.

So some other passenger who has done nothing wrong has to check because this passenger chose not to do what he had to do to board in time to have room for his bag? How is that at all fair?
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RE: WN Kicks Photographer Carrying Drone Off Plane

Mon Apr 25, 2016 9:21 pm

The batteries are removable. He could have carried those on and checked the drone itself.
 
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RE: WN Kicks Photographer Carrying Drone Off Plane

Mon Apr 25, 2016 9:27 pm

I find it really hard to believe no one at WN or even this particular flight and station knew about the rules. I haven't flown WN in awhile, but every other airline I've flown mentions something about li-ion batteries during the gate announcements before boarding.
 
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RE: WN Kicks Photographer Carrying Drone Off Plane

Mon Apr 25, 2016 9:28 pm

Another example of the airline doing the right thing with an irresponsible passenger, and the airline gets blamed in the media. No sympathy from me for that PAX.
 
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RE: WN Kicks Photographer Carrying Drone Off Plane

Mon Apr 25, 2016 9:32 pm

Quoting MSPNWA (Reply 7):

Another example of the airline doing the right thing with an irresponsible passenger, and the airline gets blamed in the media. No sympathy from me for that PAX.

In what way was the passenger irresponsible?

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 4):

So some other passenger who has done nothing wrong has to check because this passenger chose not to do what he had to do to board in time to have room for his bag? How is that at all fair?

WN orders passengers for boarding. How was he to resolve that?
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RE: WN Kicks Photographer Carrying Drone Off Plane

Mon Apr 25, 2016 9:37 pm

Why on earth would you try to bring a drone on a plane anyway? Or was it is therapy drone?
 
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RE: WN Kicks Photographer Carrying Drone Off Plane

Mon Apr 25, 2016 9:39 pm

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 8):
In what way was the passenger irresponsible?

Obviously the passenger was counting on something not guaranteed (overhead space). And obviously he wasn't willing to pull the batteries and carry them on. It was his way or the highway, and I'm glad he got the highway.
 
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RE: WN Kicks Photographer Carrying Drone Off Plane

Mon Apr 25, 2016 9:44 pm

Quoting MSPNWA (Reply 10):
Obviously the passenger was counting on something not guaranteed (overhead space). And obviously he wasn't willing to pull the batteries and carry them on. It was his way or the highway, and I'm glad he got the highway.

The passenger responds in some of the comments in the linked article, and claimed he offered to pull out the batteries.

Reading between the lines (an art well suited to airliners.net) I am guessing that he made a stink about not wanting to check the drone. And then after stirring that pot, belatedly offered to remove the batteries.

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RE: WN Kicks Photographer Carrying Drone Off Plane

Mon Apr 25, 2016 9:48 pm

Quoting smokeybandit (Reply 9):
Why on earth would you try to bring a drone on a plane anyway?

The same reason you would bring any other expensive, breakable device on a plane rather than checking it.
 
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RE: WN Kicks Photographer Carrying Drone Off Plane

Mon Apr 25, 2016 9:54 pm

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 8):
uoting Cubsrule (Reply 4):

So some other passenger who has done nothing wrong has to check because this passenger chose not to do what he had to do to board in time to have room for his bag? How is that at all fair?

WN orders passengers for boarding. How was he to resolve that?

He could have paid for earlybird check in and get a better boarding number and therefore a better chance of overhead space.
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RE: WN Kicks Photographer Carrying Drone Off Plane

Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:04 pm

Quoting smokeybandit (Reply 9):
Why on earth would you try to bring a drone on a plane anyway?

To take it to your destination. Sometimes people bring things they own on trips with them, to avoid having to buy new ones at their destination.

Quoting MSPNWA (Reply 10):
And obviously he wasn't willing to pull the batteries and carry them on.

That's only obvious if you didn't watch the video, or flat out think this guy is lying. At 2:11 of the video he stated he didn't have a problem with hand-carrying the batteries, and that the regulation would allow this.

I'm trying to think of scenarios where WN was right to do what they did - I can't think of any.
 
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Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:08 pm

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RE: WN Kicks Photographer Carrying Drone Off Plane

Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:11 pm

Quoting bioyuki (Thread starter):
Nobody. Not a single person at Southwest knew the FAA regulations; the operations supervisor wouldn’t even believe the FAA regulations he was showing him on the FAA.gov website.

I'm throwing up a red flag on this statement. Every major U.S. airline has someone on duty who either knows the regulations or knows who to call at the operations control center to obtain guidance. Most also have additional hazardous materials guidance available to them through various companies contracted for that specific purpose.
 
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RE: WN Kicks Photographer Carrying Drone Off Plane

Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:28 pm

Quoting rampbro (Reply 14):

That's only obvious if you didn't watch the video, or flat out think this guy is lying. At 2:11 of the video he stated he didn't have a problem with hand-carrying the batteries, and that the regulation would allow this.

Sorry, I don't buy that that claim is true until after he escalated the incident. Sounds like an post-ordeal excuse to blame the airline.

Quoting rampbro (Reply 14):
I'm trying to think of scenarios where WN was right to do what they did - I can't think of any.

Easy. Passenger doesn't want check bag and carries it on, but the bins are full. Airline offers to gate-check (legal if batteries are installed). Passenger correctly informs that he has spare batteries (or doesn't correctly inform and uses that as leverage) and can't check them. Here is what we don't know. Did the passenger accept that? Could he properly store them as a carry-on (taped contacts or secure container)? How long would this process take (can the airline willing to wait for this)? The fact that the captain made the decision indicates to me that this passenger wanted it his way, escalated the situation, and would inconvenience others to do it. Again, glad he got the highway.
 
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RE: WN Kicks Photographer Carrying Drone Off Plane

Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:29 pm

Quoting coolian2 (Reply 15):
Nothing moves faster than airliners.net moving to defend an airline.

Well, a lot of us do happen to work for airlines, I think most of us would admit to a bias.

Quoting maverickTTT (Reply 16):
I'm throwing up a red flag on this statement. Every major U.S. airline has someone on duty who either knows the regulations or knows who to call at the operations control center to obtain guidance. Most also have additional hazardous materials guidance available to them through various companies contracted for that specific purpose.

Correct. I personally work in an OCC department at a cargo carrier that is the operation's go-to source for hazmat regulations and so forth, with our primary function being overflight permits and international clearance. But any ramp lead/supervisor/manager out there SHOULD without question have a fairly solid knowledge of these sorts of things.
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RE: WN Kicks Photographer Carrying Drone Off Plane

Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:34 pm

Quoting B747forever (Reply 13):

He could have paid for earlybird check in and get a better boarding number and therefore a better chance of overhead space.

Ah, so everyone traveling with valuables should get early bird check in.
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RE: WN Kicks Photographer Carrying Drone Off Plane

Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:37 pm

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 19):
Ah, so everyone traveling with valuables should get early bird check in.

If it's bulky and likely to require prime bin space on a potentially quite full flight......Yes....?
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RE: WN Kicks Photographer Carrying Drone Off Plane

Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:39 pm

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 19):
Ah, so everyone traveling with valuables should get early bird check in.

I guess that is the only way if you want guaranteed over head space.
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RE: WN Kicks Photographer Carrying Drone Off Plane

Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:46 pm

Quoting TVNWZ (Reply 5):
The batteries are removable. He could have carried those on and checked the drone itself.

If the TSA doesn't allow scissors longer than 4" (~10cm), then they sure as heck shouldn't allow a powered drone with longer *motorized* blades... But then again this is the TSA, they probably can't even spell 'drone'.

Quoting MSPNWA (Reply 17):
Airline offers to gate-check (legal if batteries are installed).

Actually it would be MORE dangerous to check it with batteries installed. Then it could accidentally turn on...which causes batteries to be more reactive.
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RE: WN Kicks Photographer Carrying Drone Off Plane

Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:48 pm

Another annoying subject title using the term "kicked" off plane. No southwest didn't kick anyone off an airplane. The man may have been removed or escorted off. Gotta love the over dramatization.
 
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Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:51 pm

Quoting RDUDDJI (Reply 22):
Actually it would be MORE dangerous to check it with batteries installed. Then it could accidentally turn on...which causes batteries to be more reactive.

Well, I don't set the rules. I don't see a greater risk though. Spare, unsecured batteries are the real danger. I've experienced this myself, and it was with nickel metal hydroxide batteries, not even lithium ion.
 
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RE: WN Kicks Photographer Carrying Drone Off Plane

Mon Apr 25, 2016 11:53 pm

The passenger could have bought early boarding and avoided the whole incident.
 
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RE: WN Kicks Photographer Carrying Drone Off Plane

Tue Apr 26, 2016 12:47 am

Quoting freakyrat (Reply 25):
The passenger could have bought early boarding and avoided the whole incident.

Hindsight is always 20/20 isn't it? "The passenger should have known to fix a problem 30 minutes before he knew he was going to have one."
 
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Tue Apr 26, 2016 1:05 am

Maybe the guy was making an MCT connection. You guys are nuts. If you have something fragile you make an attempt to put it in a good spot. The guy with 6 pairs of underwear could easily get his bag at the bag check. Hell if they asked for volunteers I'm sure someone would of said "sure here you go"
 
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Tue Apr 26, 2016 1:21 am

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 19):
Ah, so everyone traveling with valuables should get early bird check in.

Obviously, he knew what the FARs were regarding carrying this, so yes, he should have known what he needed to do and been prepared to do so. He thought he was going to throw FARs around to get his way and get to keep his carry-on on the aircraft even though the OHB's were full.

Quoting 32andBelow (Reply 27):
The guy with 6 pairs of underwear could easily get his bag at the bag check. Hell if they asked for volunteers I'm sure someone would of said "sure here you go"

First come, first serve. Why should the flight attendants be put in the position of even having to ask someone else to check a bag so you can put your oversized item in the overhead bin. I'm glad to know that you are always willing to check your bag when someone else has a bag that they don't want to check.
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RE: WN Kicks Photographer Carrying Drone Off Plane

Tue Apr 26, 2016 1:27 am

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 2):
The bag could not legally be carried on because there was no room

How can it not have been "legally" carried on board? If it fit the carry on criteria and he made it that far, he has every right to bring on board. Maybe the crew could have taken one of their pieces of luggage and checked it for the segment?
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Tue Apr 26, 2016 1:59 am

In addition to my earlier post, um....why does a 737 need gate checked items? It's not like they're on a CRJ. There should be easily enough space if the size/number of item guidelines are followed.
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Tue Apr 26, 2016 2:11 am

Quoting coolian2 (Reply 30):
In addition to my earlier post, um....why does a 737 need gate checked items? It's not like they're on a CRJ. There should be easily enough space if the size/number of item guidelines are followed.

Not sure about WN, but the airline I regularly fly on doesn't have enough space on their 737s if the flight is full or close to full. 2 lockers are taken away for the catering and another 2 to 3 lockers are taken away for crew use.
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Tue Apr 26, 2016 2:17 am

Quoting coolian2 (Reply 30):
There should be easily enough space if the size/number of item guidelines are followed.

Not so on a 737. Each passenger is entitled to 16 inches of "bin width," but at 32 inch pitch there is only enough space for two thirds of passengers to have that space even if every overhead is available for bags (they aren't) and everyone packs perfectly (they don't).
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Tue Apr 26, 2016 2:18 am

Quoting usflyguy (Reply 28):
First come, first serve. Why should the flight attendants be put in the position of even having to ask someone else to check a bag so you can put your oversized item in the overhead bin. I'm glad to know that you are always willing to check your bag when someone else has a bag that they don't want to check.

Theres no first come first served. It is put your stuff in the bin and if it doesn't fit the airline needs to accomodate something. If something has a reason not to go underneath then you pick something else. Throw them a free cocktail and everyone is happy.
 
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RE: WN Kicks Photographer Carrying Drone Off Plane

Tue Apr 26, 2016 2:24 am

If he flew the drone on the plane could you subtract the weight of the drone from the gross weight of the airplane?
 
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RE: WN Kicks Photographer Carrying Drone Off Plane

Tue Apr 26, 2016 2:31 am

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 32):
Not so on a 737. Each passenger is entitled to 16 inches of "bin width," but at 32 inch pitch there is only enough space for two thirds of passengers to have that space even if every overhead is available for bags (they aren't) and everyone packs perfectly (they don't).

Bizarre. I've flown on plenty of flights (where you pay to check baggage no less) that have been full, I've never had any issues finding bin space. I'm usually at the back of the boarding queue as well.

I still chose to just kick my bag under the seat in front of me, because it saved standing up if I wanted anything as the flights are usually ~1:30 or so, and legroom wasn't vital.
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Tue Apr 26, 2016 3:18 am

Quoting coolian2 (Reply 30):
In addition to my earlier post, um....why does a 737 need gate checked items? It's not like they're on a CRJ. There should be easily enough space if the size/number of item guidelines are followed.

Not in the US. Everyone carries everything on the aircraft, even when they can check 2 bags for free.

Quoting 32andBelow (Reply 33):
Theres no first come first served. It is put your stuff in the bin and if it doesn't fit the airline needs to accomodate something. If something has a reason not to go underneath then you pick something else. Throw them a free cocktail and everyone is happy.

I'm going to guess you do not work for an airline and you definitely are not cabin crew. I doubt you fly often either since you think someone would be willing to check their luggage once they've already placed it in the OHB.

Overhead bin space is most definitely first come, first served... if you get onboard and there is no more OHB space for your carry on item that doesn't fit underneath the seat in front of you, you check it. If you make exceptions for one person, you have to make it for everyone...

If everyone that has medications in their suitcase not have to check it? Yes, they have to check it, they just take the meds out first, just like he could have done with the battery.
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Tue Apr 26, 2016 3:19 am

Quoting usflyguy (Reply 36):
I'm going to guess you do not work for an airline and you definitely are not cabin crew. I doubt you fly often either since you think someone would be willing to check their luggage once they've already placed it in the OHB.

Wrong. If someone came to me with this problem I would tell them to work it out. I would tell them to ask around for a nice person to help out and volunteer. I would approve that FA giving that volunteer free drinks or a few miles. This isn't rocket science.
 
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Tue Apr 26, 2016 3:33 am

Quoting coolian2 (Reply 30):
In addition to my earlier post, um....why does a 737 need gate checked items? It's not like they're on a CRJ. There should be easily enough space if the size/number of item guidelines are followed.

Even on WN, a carrier with no bag fees, it happens. Especially if it's a 733 with the 143 seat interior. Their bins aren't huge. Even a 73G can get tight upstairs on a full flight.
 
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RE: WN Kicks Photographer Carrying Drone Off Plane

Tue Apr 26, 2016 3:49 am

Quoting smokeybandit (Reply 9):
Or was it is therapy drone?

 
Quoting PDX88 (Reply 26):
Quoting freakyrat (Reply 25):
The passenger could have bought early boarding and avoided the whole incident.

Hindsight is always 20/20 isn't it? "The passenger should have known to fix a problem 30 minutes before he knew he was going to have one."

I don't expect everyone to understand all the in's and out's of this stuff - I sure don't. However, at the same time, it doesn't mean he gets to have his way. I will say, though, that he was more than aware of the rules regarding the batteries and so you'd think he would've gone the extra mile to make sure he didn't have any problems.

Quoting coolian2 (Reply 30):

In addition to my earlier post, um....why does a 737 need gate checked items? It's not like they're on a CRJ. There should be easily enough space if the size/number of item guidelines are followed.

Last fall I flew four segments on an itinerary - 1 UA 737, 1 UA CR7, and 2 WN 737's. Every single flight was announced as full at the gate and people were requested to gate-check if possible. I've heard it countless other times at nearby gates.

Quoting 32andBelow (Reply 37):
Wrong. If someone came to me with this problem I would tell them to work it out. I would tell them to ask around for a nice person to help out and volunteer. I would approve that FA giving that volunteer free drinks or a few miles. This isn't rocket science.

Usually, these news stories seem very avoidable if someone had just gone a bit above and beyond to take care of it before it escalates.

Where I work (small company), our philosophy is that the customer is NOT always right - duh - but we CHOOSE to let them be right most of the time as a courtesy/guest service matter. Additionally, we have a website that customers can go to and rate their experience, and under certain criteria it will issue a "red flag" calling for an immediate response. NOBODY wants to get a red flag, and we are encouraged to do anything possible to preempt that from happening. Usually, they could have been avoided at several points along the way if only SOMEONE had done SOMETHING to avert the problem.

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RE: WN Kicks Photographer Carrying Drone Off Plane

Tue Apr 26, 2016 4:25 am

Quoting ThirtyEcho (Reply 34):

If he flew the drone on the plane could you subtract the weight of the drone from the gross weight of the airplane?

Only if the plane was on a moving treadmill.
 
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RE: WN Kicks Photographer Carrying Drone Off Plane

Tue Apr 26, 2016 4:34 am

My 2 cents. Many passengers distrust checking luggage (free or not) because too many gotta burnt with lost or damaged luggages. In my line of work people travel weekly and the common denominator is DO NOT ever check luggage because you cannot be guaranteed you will have it back in times to go to client meeting. As a result I think in one hand people carry on all sizes and fill up bins. On the other hand most passengers just waste OHB space with coats or storing all their personal items.
I was one of those passengers (in a way) when I worked in computer forensics and travelled with a pelican protector case full of hard drives and electronics, company policy and client contractual obligations prohibited checking the case because it was a breach of the evidence chain of custody.
 
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RE: WN Kicks Photographer Carrying Drone Off Plane

Tue Apr 26, 2016 5:04 am

If he wants bin space he should pay for it. If you need some service to be provided, you can only be sure that it is provided by paying.
 
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RE: WN Kicks Photographer Carrying Drone Off Plane

Tue Apr 26, 2016 5:05 am

Quoting seahawk (Reply 42):

If he wants bin space he should pay for it. If you need some service to be provided, you can only be sure that it is provided by paying.

You pay for it when you buy your several hundred dollar ticket.
 
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RE: WN Kicks Photographer Carrying Drone Off Plane

Tue Apr 26, 2016 5:24 am

Quoting seahawk (Reply 42):
If he wants bin space he should pay for it. If you need some service to be provided, you can only be sure that it is provided by paying

True story. I think 4 years ago my niece flew down to visit from CHS to DFW. She checked in her only luggage and was charged $20 IIRC. She made it just fine but after claim area emptied out we worried and I went to talk to the AA baggage rep. She checked the system and confirmed the luggage was left behind and no one knows why. I was a little startled so I asked what is the point of paying if the airline cannot even guarantee delivery with the passenger. She started with many reasons and eventually said and I quote "We also need to eat".I was baffled and started literally laughing out loud. I said thanks for your honesty and told my niece things happen. The luggage was delivered the next day at the house. She made my day!
 
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RE: WN Kicks Photographer Carrying Drone Off Plane

Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:09 am

Quoting 32andBelow (Reply 43):
You pay for it when you buy your several hundred dollar ticket.

No, you pay for a carry-on of a certain size, that might be checked into the hold when there is no space in the bins. As a passenger you can either make sure that you have a smaller package ready containing valuable and hazardous items to take out and store under your seat or you must make sure that you get the bin space you need, which is this case should have been possible by paying for priority boarding.
 
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RE: WN Kicks Photographer Carrying Drone Off Plane

Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:43 am

Some common sense should have prevailed. My guess is that the overhead bins were full because half of the passengers had brought more carry-on luggage than allowed or did not show the courtesy to put smaller items under the seat in front of them - if the flight was not different from hundreds of flights I have been on. Now, to do the right thing, if the guy was within his carry-on limits, instead of off-loading him the FA should have enforced carry-on luggage rules. Of course they took the easy way out and simply kicked the guy off.
 
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RE: WN Kicks Photographer Carrying Drone Off Plane

Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:08 am

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 4):
So some other passenger who has done nothing wrong has to check because this passenger chose not to do what he had to do to board in time to have room for his bag?

So your assuming a lot here. Like he would know in advance he has to check his carry on? Sorry but if I was on a plane and know that the batteries cannot be checked I would not get mad if they said I had to check my bag. I'd rather have a battery where we could keep it from spreading if it caught fire than have it in the cargo hold with no access to do anything.
 
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RE: WN Kicks Photographer Carrying Drone Off Plane

Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:11 am

Quoting smokeybandit (Reply 9):
Why on earth would you try to bring a drone on a plane anyway?

Have you seen videos from companies showing their buildings or towns showing what the area looks like.. Those are done by photographers all over the country. For that matter look at some of the pics from LAX. Some were done by drones to show off the airport. Just need to go through a lot of regs & paperwork.
 
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RE: WN Kicks Photographer Carrying Drone Off Plane

Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:13 am

Quoting MSPNWA (Reply 7):

Another example of the airline doing the right thing with an irresponsible passenger, and the airline gets blamed in the media. No sympathy from me for that PAX.

So when there is no room for your laptop (Also banned from being cargo checked) then is ok to kick you off when you might need to be at a meeting & have to have the laptop?

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