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Quoting Gazdon121 (Thread starter): my question is where from Gatwick flight schedule do they find the 5-6 hours slack for these widebodys to operate a euro flight? |
Quoting TC957 (Reply 4): I think BA should operate 777's more often on peak time / busy Euro flights. Why can't they plan ahead to put spare 777's and 744's on routes when F1 weekends occur for example ? And we have the Euros coming up in France this summer and demand will be high around England & Wales match days. |
Quoting TC957 (Reply 4): I think BA should operate 777's more often on peak time / busy Euro flights. Why can't they plan ahead to put spare 777's and 744's on routes when F1 weekends occur for example ? And we have the Euros coming up in France this summer and demand will be high around England & Wales match days. |
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Quoting TC957 (Reply 7): Well, airlines in the Far East seems to do just great scheduling their wide-bodies on short high-demand runs in between their long-haul flights. |
Quoting TC957 (Reply 7): Yes, and that customer loyalty should be important. How many won't be able to fly BA to this summer's F1, Euros and wherever else, then go on FR or EZY and say, you know what, this isn't so bad I won't bother with BA in future. Plus the extra CW capacity will do well with the corporate incentive market to high-profile sporting events. |
Quoting TC957 (Reply 7): Well, airlines in the Far East seems to do just great scheduling their wide-bodies on short high-demand runs in between their long-haul flights. |
Quoting TC957 (Reply 7): Yes, and that customer loyalty should be important. How many won't be able to fly BA to this summer's F1, Euros and wherever else, then go on FR or EZY and say, you know what, this isn't so bad I won't bother with BA in future. The day when European airlines flew every route their customers could possibly desire are long gone. The customers upped sticks and went with FR and U2 when it suited them. Thats the reason BA withdrew from the regions, it just didn't pay, nor does having spare capacity to put on large numbers of extra seats for a short term event. FR and U2 will play it just the same, I recall Michael O Leary saying that he didn''t care how his former passengers were going to get to their villas when he axed flights. Plus the extra CW capacity will do well with the corporate incentive market to high-profile sporting events. |
Quoting TC957 (Reply 7): es, and that customer loyalty should be important. How many won't be able to fly BA to this summer's F1, Euros and wherever else, then go on FR or EZY and say, you know what, this isn't so bad I won't bother with BA in future. Plus the extra CW capacity will do well with the corporate incentive market to high-profile sporting events. |
Quoting DAL763ER (Reply 9): Whoever's loyal will get a BA ticket. Anyone else is welcome to fly Ryanair/EasyJet as they're likely flying whatever's cheapest anyway. |
Quoting DAL763ER (Reply 9): Running 3-4 777s per day between London and Paris is not economical to the airline and beneficial to the passengers. |
Quoting Bongodog1964 (Reply 6): They have CW, WTP & WT compared to the A320 CE and ET which results in a vastly reduced seat density. These 772's seat 275, the LGW A320's seat 168. |
Quoting TC957 (Reply 12): I'm not talking about running 3-4 777 LHR - CDG every day. I'm suggesting BA should do well to match capacity to peak demand when events and forward booking patterns clearly demonstrate a need for use of larger aircraft. Seat inventory control could mean cheap fare booking classes could be blocked out meaning high yield on such flights to offset the increased costs. An example - I just checked BA to NCE over the F1 Monaco weekend and it's £900 Friday out Monday back. Yet to JFK there are £743 return flights same dates. I'm sure BA will do better that weekend running a 777 on a couple of their flights those days full to NCE than half-empty to JFK. |
Quoting Gazdon121 (Reply 2): What surprised me more was that it was two different aircraft |
Quoting TC957 (Reply 12): I'm sure BA will do better that weekend running a 777 on a couple of their flights those days full to NCE than half-empty to JFK. |
Quoting TC957 (Reply 12): I'm sure BA will do better that weekend running a 777 on a couple of their flights those days full to NCE than half-empty to JFK. |
Quoting VV701 (Reply 15): At the prices quoted for their LHR-NCE rotations on the F1 weekend I would describe operating a limited capacity aircraft (that enables these prices to be charged) to be a very solid financial success. Using a larger (772) aircraft would dilute the revenue per seat and, with the additional costs of operating a premium-rich, long-haul aircraft , increase the costs per seat. |
Quoting TC957 (Reply 16): The point I'm trying to make is that events like F1 attract high-spending clientele and extra traffic associated with the running of the event. Of course I know BA aren't in the pile them high sell them cheap market. |
Quoting BestWestern (Reply 17): the demand is one way during events. Fair point of course. |
Quoting TC957 (Reply 7): Yes, and that customer loyalty should be important. How many won't be able to fly BA to this summer's F1, Euros and wherever else, then go on FR or EZY and say, you know what, this isn't so bad I won't bother with BA in future. Plus the extra CW capacity will do well with the corporate incentive market to high-profile sporting events. |