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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Fri Sep 23, 2016 1:00 am

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Thanks for the great link! Very informative.

So from that article, it looks as if:
Legacy United 752s PS aircraft (the ones with 28 lie flats), will not have a direct narrow body replacement. They will simply be retired, and it looks like ex Continental 757s will fully own the SFO/LAX-EWR market. As more ex Continental 757s are pulled to fill the PS service gap (probably along with some 77A Polaris configured planes) when ex United 757s retire, more 767s with Polaris will shift to replace 757s on trans Atlantic routes. The routes from which the 767s are pulled will be filled by incoming 787s/A350s/freed up 777s. And then eventually, all 767s and 757s will be replaced by the 797.

Does that correctly sum it up?


I find it hard to believe that they will be retired when there is no replacement for them at the moment. Some of the sCO 757s are older in some cases.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Fri Sep 23, 2016 1:18 am

piedmont762 wrote:

I find it hard to believe that they will be retired when there is no replacement for them at the moment. Some of the sCO 757s are older in some cases.


sCO's are in some cases older, but since they've been flying Transatlantic their whole careers they have very few cycles, sometimes only 2 flights a day, at most 4. Also, with a fleet of only 15 sUA 757's and 62 sCO, the commonality of the RR engines and other specs probably outweighs the age. If the sUA 75's are young enough, they'll probably have some residual value with FedEx if they're still in the market.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Fri Sep 23, 2016 1:24 am

piedmont762 wrote:
BG777300ER wrote:
Thanks for the great link! Very informative.

So from that article, it looks as if:
Legacy United 752s PS aircraft (the ones with 28 lie flats), will not have a direct narrow body replacement. They will simply be retired, and it looks like ex Continental 757s will fully own the SFO/LAX-EWR market. As more ex Continental 757s are pulled to fill the PS service gap (probably along with some 77A Polaris configured planes) when ex United 757s retire, more 767s with Polaris will shift to replace 757s on trans Atlantic routes. The routes from which the 767s are pulled will be filled by incoming 787s/A350s/freed up 777s. And then eventually, all 767s and 757s will be replaced by the 797.

Does that correctly sum it up?


I find it hard to believe that they will be retired when there is no replacement for them at the moment. Some of the sCO 757s are older in some cases.


It's about time UA jumps on the A321NEO train for the PS 757 replacement.
In an ideal world UA would convert its 100 739MAX's to 738MAX's, and order a mix of A321NEO and A321NEOLR's as the domestic and international 752 replacement. The current NG 738's and 739ER's would be primarily CONUS domestic where as the A321's are used for TransCon PS, TATL and Hawaii and 8MAX's are used to Alaska, Central America and the Caribbean.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Fri Sep 23, 2016 2:49 am

319:
N801UA entered LCQ 2143/17WSep, no ISP shown
N824UA entered LCQ 2147/22SWep for ISP/New F seats

738:
N27205 has slimline seats/assume scimitars. Unknown when completed
N12221 entered INT 2136/21Sep for slimlines/scimitars
N36247 exited INT 2136/22Sep with slimlines/scimitars

744:
N107UA entered SFO 900/8Sep

753:
N57863 exited MCN 2141/22Sep, no ISP shown, probably waiting for slimline conversion

E175:
N163SY confirmed with Wifi and PDE
N731YX confirmed with Wifi and PDE
N740YX confirmed with Wifi and PDE
N86347 delivery 23Sept to Mesa dba UAX (112th E75 in UAX fleet)

E45X:
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:59 am

cosyr wrote:
piedmont762 wrote:

I find it hard to believe that they will be retired when there is no replacement for them at the moment. Some of the sCO 757s are older in some cases.


sCO's are in some cases older, but since they've been flying Transatlantic their whole careers they have very few cycles, sometimes only 2 flights a day, at most 4. Also, with a fleet of only 15 sUA 757's and 62 sCO, the commonality of the RR engines and other specs probably outweighs the age. If the sUA 75's are young enough, they'll probably have some residual value with FedEx if they're still in the market.


Wrong. They only have 41 sCO 752. And a big mistake they didn't leverage the sUA 757 fleet.

They probably want the change to get the pmUA fleet out, it's dumb compared to what Delta is doing with their decked out 757s
 
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Fri Sep 23, 2016 5:03 am

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And a big mistake they didn't leverage the sUA 757 fleet.


United obviously doesn't agree. I'm sure their business case includes factors beyond aircraft age and frankly it doesn't matter because their decisions are made.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Fri Sep 23, 2016 5:09 am

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cosyr wrote:
piedmont762 wrote:

I find it hard to believe that they will be retired when there is no replacement for them at the moment. Some of the sCO 757s are older in some cases.


sCO's are in some cases older, but since they've been flying Transatlantic their whole careers they have very few cycles, sometimes only 2 flights a day, at most 4. Also, with a fleet of only 15 sUA 757's and 62 sCO, the commonality of the RR engines and other specs probably outweighs the age. If the sUA 75's are young enough, they'll probably have some residual value with FedEx if they're still in the market.


Wrong. They only have 41 sCO 752. And a big mistake they didn't leverage the sUA 757 fleet.

They probably want the change to get the pmUA fleet out, it's dumb compared to what Delta is doing with their decked out 757s


He was including the sub CO 753 fleet in his figures.
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Fri Sep 23, 2016 2:32 pm

738:
N77537 sked to enter SEA new Delivery induction 2133/23Sep
 
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Sat Sep 24, 2016 3:12 am

738 slimline seats:
N76515 exited INT 2193/23Sep with slimline seats
N76516 entered INT 2134/23Sep for same.
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Sat Sep 24, 2016 6:10 pm

764 will lose most of its flying out of EWR & most 764 flying will be out of IAD. Only 764 EWR routes will be BRU & ZRH. 764 routes out of IAD will be AMS, BRU, FCO GVA, HNL, IAH, LHR, MUC & ZRH. 763 fleet will be consolidated to EWR, IAH & ORD.
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:53 pm

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764 will lose most of its flying out of EWR & most 764 flying will be out of IAD. Only 764 EWR routes will be BRU & ZRH. 764 routes out of IAD will be AMS, BRU, FCO GVA, HNL, IAH, LHR, MUC & ZRH. 763 fleet will be consolidated to EWR, IAH & ORD.


Interesting. This must be easier to do w combined pilot workforce given the already sizable 767 pilot pool at IAD.
 
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Sun Sep 25, 2016 12:21 am

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764 will lose most of its flying out of EWR & most 764 flying will be out of IAD. Only 764 EWR routes will be BRU & ZRH. 764 routes out of IAD will be AMS, BRU, FCO GVA, HNL, IAH, LHR, MUC & ZRH. 763 fleet will be consolidated to EWR, IAH & ORD.


Is EWR-HNL going to another type? Last I checked, it was a 764.
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Sun Sep 25, 2016 12:51 am

FlyHossD wrote:
CONTACREW wrote:
764 will lose most of its flying out of EWR & most 764 flying will be out of IAD. Only 764 EWR routes will be BRU & ZRH. 764 routes out of IAD will be AMS, BRU, FCO GVA, HNL, IAH, LHR, MUC & ZRH. 763 fleet will be consolidated to EWR, IAH & ORD.


Is EWR-HNL going to another type? Last I checked, it was a 764.


Looking at the schedules EWR-HNL is going to 763s.
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:14 am

Winter intl flying out of EWR:

FLT 16 EWR-LHR 75B
FLT 19 EWR-MXP 76C
FLT 23 EWR-DUB 76C
FLT 25 EWR-SNN 75B
FLT 27 EWR-BHX 75B
FLT 29 EWR-LHR 75B
FLT 30 EWR-MUC 76C
FLT 36 EWR-EDI 75B
FLT 48 EWR-BOM 77Y
FLT 51 EWR-MAD 76C
FLT 57 EWR-CDG 77D
FLT 64 EWR-LIS 75B
FLT 70 EWR-AMS 75B
FLT 77 EWR-BFS 75B
FLT 79 EWR-NRT 77Y
FLT 81 EWR-MAN 75B
FLT 82 EWR-DEL 77Y
FLT 84 EWR-TLV 77Y
FLT 86 EWR-PVG 77Y
FLT 89 EWR-PEK 77Y
FLT 90 EWR-TLV 77Y
FLT 110 EWR-LHR 75B
FLT 120 EWR-BCN 76C
FLT 134 EWR-ZRH 76P
FLT 149 EWR-GRU 76C
FLT 161 EWR-GLA 75B
FLT 179 EWR-HKG 77Y
FLT 864 EWR-HAM 76N
FLT 934 EWR-LHR 76C
FLT 940 EWR-LHR 76N
FLT 956 EWR-GVA 76N
FLT 960 EWR-FRA 77D
FLT 962 EWR-TXL 76C
FLT 999 EWR-BRU 76P
FLT 1095 EWR-LIM 75B
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Mon Sep 26, 2016 12:43 am

CONTACREW wrote:
Winter intl flying out of EWR:

FLT 16 EWR-LHR 75B
FLT 19 EWR-MXP 76C
FLT 23 EWR-DUB 76C
FLT 25 EWR-SNN 75B
FLT 27 EWR-BHX 75B
FLT 29 EWR-LHR 75B
FLT 30 EWR-MUC 76C
FLT 36 EWR-EDI 75B
FLT 48 EWR-BOM 77Y
FLT 51 EWR-MAD 76C
FLT 57 EWR-CDG 77D
FLT 64 EWR-LIS 75B
FLT 70 EWR-AMS 75B
FLT 77 EWR-BFS 75B
FLT 79 EWR-NRT 77Y
FLT 81 EWR-MAN 75B
FLT 82 EWR-DEL 77Y
FLT 84 EWR-TLV 77Y
FLT 86 EWR-PVG 77Y
FLT 89 EWR-PEK 77Y
FLT 90 EWR-TLV 77Y
FLT 110 EWR-LHR 75B
FLT 120 EWR-BCN 76C
FLT 134 EWR-ZRH 76P
FLT 149 EWR-GRU 76C
FLT 161 EWR-GLA 75B
FLT 179 EWR-HKG 77Y
FLT 864 EWR-HAM 76N
FLT 934 EWR-LHR 76C
FLT 940 EWR-LHR 76N
FLT 956 EWR-GVA 76N
FLT 960 EWR-FRA 77D
FLT 962 EWR-TXL 76C
FLT 999 EWR-BRU 76P
FLT 1095 EWR-LIM 75B


Same old, same old here. Glad MAD and BCN get 767 but what is with LHR doing with 757? Random if you ask me because of premium demand.
 
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Mon Sep 26, 2016 1:51 am

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Same old, same old here. Glad MAD and BCN get 767 but what is with LHR doing with 757? Random if you ask me because of premium demand.


Winter slot filler.
 
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Mon Sep 26, 2016 1:47 pm

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piedmont762 wrote:

Same old, same old here. Glad MAD and BCN get 767 but what is with LHR doing with 757? Random if you ask me because of premium demand.


Winter slot filler.


Well, I can tell you the 757 from LHR is the early 7:30 AM slot to IAD and we flew home last Sunday with 27 PAX total. While that is a one time example, it's probably a decent representation as travelers probably prefer a bit later departure as getting to and into LHR is sometimes an event in itself. For this 7:30 flight, you'd have to be on the tube at 5AM to get there at 6AM or you could simply take the later flight.
 
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Wed Sep 28, 2016 5:10 am

738 new delivery:
N77537 exited SEA new Delivery induction 2148/27Sep for INT - WiFi/scimitars/PDE to be installed

763:
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Wed Sep 28, 2016 4:22 pm

fun2fly wrote:
SFOtoORD wrote:
piedmont762 wrote:

Same old, same old here. Glad MAD and BCN get 767 but what is with LHR doing with 757? Random if you ask me because of premium demand.


Winter slot filler.


Well, I can tell you the 757 from LHR is the early 7:30 AM slot to IAD and we flew home last Sunday with 27 PAX total. While that is a one time example, it's probably a decent representation as travelers probably prefer a bit later departure as getting to and into LHR is sometimes an event in itself. For this 7:30 flight, you'd have to be on the tube at 5AM to get there at 6AM or you could simply take the later flight.


That's true - I forgot that the EWR / IAD morning loads to LHR can be pretty bad. I'm almost surprised the AM flights to LHR stick around.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Thu Sep 29, 2016 12:08 am

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fun2fly wrote:
SFOtoORD wrote:

Winter slot filler.


Well, I can tell you the 757 from LHR is the early 7:30 AM slot to IAD and we flew home last Sunday with 27 PAX total. While that is a one time example, it's probably a decent representation as travelers probably prefer a bit later departure as getting to and into LHR is sometimes an event in itself. For this 7:30 flight, you'd have to be on the tube at 5AM to get there at 6AM or you could simply take the later flight.


That's true - I forgot that the EWR / IAD morning loads to LHR can be pretty bad. I'm almost surprised the AM flights to LHR stick around.

You do realise that he is talking about the early morning departure to IAD from LHR, not from EWR/IAD to LHR, as having the light load. The inbound flights from EWR/IAD both arrive the evening before of course.
 
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Thu Sep 29, 2016 12:29 am

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That's true - I forgot that the EWR / IAD morning loads to LHR can be pretty bad. I'm almost surprised the AM flights to LHR stick around.


audidudi wrote:
You do realise that he is talking about the early morning departure to IAD from LHR, not from EWR/IAD to LHR, as having the light load. The inbound flights from EWR/IAD both arrive the evening before of course.


The AM EWR-LHR is generally a popular flight, and retains WB service year round.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Thu Sep 29, 2016 2:04 am

Quick question for what seems to be a failry educated group of UA fleet experts:

Just booked ROC-ORD-HNL-ORD-ROC in F for next summer, and see that I'll be on the new config for Hawaii 772's. There's been plenty of talk on the economy cabin, but does anyone know what will be happening to the F cabin? (Looks like seats will go lie flat, but will there be IFE *finally*, or any word on what the cabin will look like?)

Slightly off topic, but thanks in advance for anyone that knows anything.
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Thu Sep 29, 2016 2:13 am

ROCDLFAN wrote:
Quick question for what seems to be a failry educated group of UA fleet experts:

Just booked ROC-ORD-HNL-ORD-ROC in F for next summer, and see that I'll be on the new config for Hawaii 772's. There's been plenty of talk on the economy cabin, but does anyone know what will be happening to the F cabin? (Looks like seats will go lie flat, but will there be IFE *finally*, or any word on what the cabin will look like?)

Slightly off topic, but thanks in advance for anyone that knows anything.


The new configuration 772s have AVOD in J class and the seats are the same IPTE lie flats that you find on the sUA 777s, 744s and 3 class 763s. There is also nose to tail power, streaming video and WiFi....
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Thu Sep 29, 2016 2:48 am

ROCDLFAN wrote:
Quick question for what seems to be a failry educated group of UA fleet experts:

Just booked ROC-ORD-HNL-ORD-ROC in F for next summer, and see that I'll be on the new config for Hawaii 772's. There's been plenty of talk on the economy cabin, but does anyone know what will be happening to the F cabin? (Looks like seats will go lie flat, but will there be IFE *finally*, or any word on what the cabin will look like?)

Slightly off topic, but thanks in advance for anyone that knows anything.


Unfortunately given the small number of domestic config 777's I would not put much stock into the seat map so far in advance. They swap between the Hawaii Config and Domesitc Config near daily. I was on a flight from ORD to HNL 2 weeks ago that swapped 3 times in 24 hours. I have been on the new domestic config once and I was very pleased.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Thu Sep 29, 2016 5:17 am

739:
N37470 sked to exit INT 2125/29Sep with scimitars/slimlines

I 'm sure this is wrong, but here's a guess at 772A conversions
3 class to Domestic - 6 remaining, estimate 7 weeks per aircraft with 2 mod lines
Entry date
1 10/1/16 7 weeks
2 10/25/16 7 weeks
3 11/19/16 7 weeks
4 12/13/16 7 weeks
5 1/7/17 7 weeks
6 1/31/17 7 weeks
Current Hawaiian units, wild guess of 8 weeks first aircraft for STC, then 5 weeks for remaining 8 units
1 2/25/17 8 weeks STC
2 3/21/17 5 weeks
3 4/22/17 5 weeks
4 4/25/17 5 weeks
5 5/27/17 5 weeks
6 5/30/17 5 weeks
7 7/1/17 5 weeks
8 7/4/17 - completed 8/8/17
9 8/5/17 - complete 9/9/17
Last old Hawaiian would operate 8/5/17
 
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Thu Sep 29, 2016 8:59 am

The 77W's should be going into production soon... any idea when?
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Thu Sep 29, 2016 9:57 am

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The 77W's should be going into production soon... any idea when?



It's in Pre Assembly now, should start Final Assembly around Oct 6th.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Thu Sep 29, 2016 10:58 am

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The 77W's should be going into production soon... any idea when?

Discussed here just a few days ago..
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1343783

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The first N58031, shows in 'Pre-assembly' two spots from the FAL. Second is eight slots behind 031. All the rest are between two to four slots apart until the (current) last 044.


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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Sat Oct 01, 2016 3:32 am

Speaking of the 77Gs I just got off one and am wondering what the plan is to fix the "carol of the bells"? The seats were comfortable even at 10 across, streaming video system works extreemly well, crew was great and I liked the tablet holders on the seatback but they really do need to reposition the F/A call button....:)

The F/As made a few announcements but sort of just gave up trying to stop the ringing.
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Sat Oct 01, 2016 1:29 pm

First of the new 737-724 info has a Fuselage # of 6435 Mfg date 2017
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Sat Oct 01, 2016 1:45 pm

calpsafltskeds wrote:
739:

I 'm sure this is wrong, but here's a guess at 772A conversions
3 class to Domestic - 6 remaining, estimate 7 weeks per aircraft with 2 mod lines
Entry date
1 10/1/16 7 weeks
2 10/25/16 7 weeks
3 11/19/16 7 weeks
4 12/13/16 7 weeks
5 1/7/17 7 weeks
6 1/31/17 7 weeks


Reconfiguration 777 Domestic
2481 HKG 08/24/2016 10/07/2016
2478 HKG 09/07/2016 10/21/2016
2477 HKG 10/08/2016 11/21/2016

calpsafltskeds wrote:
Current Hawaiian units, wild guess of 8 weeks first aircraft for STC, then 5 weeks for remaining 8 units
1 2/25/17 8 weeks STC
2 3/21/17 5 weeks
3 4/22/17 5 weeks
4 4/25/17 5 weeks
5 5/27/17 5 weeks
6 5/30/17 5 weeks
7 7/1/17 5 weeks
8 7/4/17 - completed 8/8/17
9 8/5/17 - complete 9/9/17
Last old Hawaiian would operate 8/5/17


777 2-Class Reconfiguration Aircraft Downtime Approximately 30 Days
2016 Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun
......................1.................1........... 2.... 1....2.... 2....3.....1....3.....2.... 1
Grand Total.....1......1.....1.. 2.... 2.... 4.... 5... 7.... 9.. 12...13.. 16...18....19
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Sat Oct 01, 2016 9:46 pm

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First of the new 737-724 info has a Fuselage # of 6435 Mfg date 2017


2017?!?!? But I want them NOW!!!
 
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Sun Oct 02, 2016 1:21 am

Boeing cranking out about 40 per month, so it looks like about June 2017 for first flight, 320 frames from aircraft now taking first flights. Add about 12 days for delivery, then another week or so of induction at SEA and INT. July 1st at earliest is my guess.

320:
N435UA confirmed without ISP/n F seats - had visited LCQ

739:
N36472 entered INT 2124/28Sep for slimlines

753:
N53868 entered MCN 2153/30Sep, possible ISP and/or slimlines

777: N777UA appears headed to HKG for 2 Class mod, entered HNL 2166/1Oct

CR7:
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Sun Oct 02, 2016 7:21 am

CALTECH wrote:
calpsafltskeds wrote:
739:

I 'm sure this is wrong, but here's a guess at 772A conversions
3 class to Domestic - 6 remaining, estimate 7 weeks per aircraft with 2 mod lines
Entry date
1 10/1/16 7 weeks
2 10/25/16 7 weeks
3 11/19/16 7 weeks
4 12/13/16 7 weeks
5 1/7/17 7 weeks
6 1/31/17 7 weeks


Reconfiguration 777 Domestic
2481 HKG 08/24/2016 10/07/2016
2478 HKG 09/07/2016 10/21/2016
2477 HKG 10/08/2016 11/21/2016

calpsafltskeds wrote:
Current Hawaiian units, wild guess of 8 weeks first aircraft for STC, then 5 weeks for remaining 8 units
1 2/25/17 8 weeks STC
2 3/21/17 5 weeks
3 4/22/17 5 weeks
4 4/25/17 5 weeks
5 5/27/17 5 weeks
6 5/30/17 5 weeks
7 7/1/17 5 weeks
8 7/4/17 - completed 8/8/17
9 8/5/17 - complete 9/9/17
Last old Hawaiian would operate 8/5/17


777 2-Class Reconfiguration Aircraft Downtime Approximately 30 Days
2016 Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun
......................1.................1........... 2.... 1....2.... 2....3.....1....3.....2.... 1
Grand Total.....1......1.....1.. 2.... 2.... 4.... 5... 7.... 9.. 12...13.. 16...18....19


Thanks CALTECH.

Anyone has an idea which seats in the new domestic F cabin are blocked for the crew on longer legs? 4A and B?
 
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Sun Oct 02, 2016 8:02 am

SQ22 wrote:
CALTECH wrote:
calpsafltskeds wrote:
739:

I 'm sure this is wrong, but here's a guess at 772A conversions
3 class to Domestic - 6 remaining, estimate 7 weeks per aircraft with 2 mod lines
Entry date
1 10/1/16 7 weeks
2 10/25/16 7 weeks
3 11/19/16 7 weeks
4 12/13/16 7 weeks
5 1/7/17 7 weeks
6 1/31/17 7 weeks


Reconfiguration 777 Domestic
2481 HKG 08/24/2016 10/07/2016
2478 HKG 09/07/2016 10/21/2016
2477 HKG 10/08/2016 11/21/2016

calpsafltskeds wrote:
Current Hawaiian units, wild guess of 8 weeks first aircraft for STC, then 5 weeks for remaining 8 units
1 2/25/17 8 weeks STC
2 3/21/17 5 weeks
3 4/22/17 5 weeks
4 4/25/17 5 weeks
5 5/27/17 5 weeks
6 5/30/17 5 weeks
7 7/1/17 5 weeks
8 7/4/17 - completed 8/8/17
9 8/5/17 - complete 9/9/17
Last old Hawaiian would operate 8/5/17


777 2-Class Reconfiguration Aircraft Downtime Approximately 30 Days
2016 Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun
......................1.................1........... 2.... 1....2.... 2....3.....1....3.....2.... 1
Grand Total.....1......1.....1.. 2.... 2.... 4.... 5... 7.... 9.. 12...13.. 16...18....19


Thanks CALTECH.

Anyone has an idea which seats in the new domestic F cabin are blocked for the crew on longer legs? 4A and B?


Pilot Crew Rest: 1AB
FA Crew Rest: 49KL-51KL
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Sun Oct 02, 2016 9:28 am

CONTACREW wrote:
SQ22 wrote:
CALTECH wrote:

Reconfiguration 777 Domestic
2481 HKG 08/24/2016 10/07/2016
2478 HKG 09/07/2016 10/21/2016
2477 HKG 10/08/2016 11/21/2016



777 2-Class Reconfiguration Aircraft Downtime Approximately 30 Days
2016 Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun
......................1.................1........... 2.... 1....2.... 2....3.....1....3.....2.... 1
Grand Total.....1......1.....1.. 2.... 2.... 4.... 5... 7.... 9.. 12...13.. 16...18....19


Thanks CALTECH.

Anyone has an idea which seats in the new domestic F cabin are blocked for the crew on longer legs? 4A and B?


Pilot Crew Rest: 1AB
FA Crew Rest: 49KL-51KL


None of the sUA 7s have the overhead crew rest compartment? Or just the non-ERs ?
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Sun Oct 02, 2016 9:34 am

CONTACREW wrote:
SQ22 wrote:
CALTECH wrote:

Reconfiguration 777 Domestic
2481 HKG 08/24/2016 10/07/2016
2478 HKG 09/07/2016 10/21/2016
2477 HKG 10/08/2016 11/21/2016



777 2-Class Reconfiguration Aircraft Downtime Approximately 30 Days
2016 Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun
......................1.................1........... 2.... 1....2.... 2....3.....1....3.....2.... 1
Grand Total.....1......1.....1.. 2.... 2.... 4.... 5... 7.... 9.. 12...13.. 16...18....19


Thanks CALTECH.

Anyone has an idea which seats in the new domestic F cabin are blocked for the crew on longer legs? 4A and B?


Pilot Crew Rest: 1AB
FA Crew Rest: 49KL-51KL


Thanks
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Sun Oct 02, 2016 5:05 pm

739:
N38403 - Entered INT on 13-Sept/2137 for slimlines and scimitars

777:
N206UA sked to enter HKG 895/3Oct
N777UA - Entered HKG 2167/2Oct for 2 class domestic configuration
N218UA - Scheduled exit from HKG 895/3Oct
N782UA - SFO 2006/21Sep

E175:
N732YX - Confirmed with wifi and PDE
N736YX - Confirmed with wifi and PDE
N739YX - Confirmed with wifi and PDE
N80348 - Delivered on 1-Oct
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Mon Oct 03, 2016 12:25 am

SQ22 wrote:
Thanks


Oops, you're welcome....

Seems all 25 A-319s are still coming, the Spirit ones are to be replaced with China Southern ones...

4871 N871UA TBD /CSN (China Southern)
4872 N872UA TBD /CSN
4873 N873UA TBD /CSN
4874 N874UA TBD /CSN
4875 N875UA TBD /CSN
4876 N876UA TBD /CSN
4877 N877UA TBD /CSN
4878 N878UA TBD /CSN
4879 N879UA TBD /CSN
4880 N880UA TBD /CSN
4881 N881UA TBD /CSN
4882 N882UA TBD /CSN
4883 N883UA TBD /CSN
4884 N884UA TBD /CSN
4889 N889UA B-6219/CSN
4890 N890UA B-6220/CSN
4891 N891UA B-6158/CSN
4892 N892UA B-6160/CSN
4893 N893UA B-6161/CSN
4894 N894UA B-6162/CSN
4895 N895UA B-6168/CSN
4896 N896UA B-6239/CSN
4897 N897UA B-6241/CSN
4898 N898UA B-6242/CSN
4899 N899UA B-6243/CSN
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Mon Oct 03, 2016 1:00 am

calpsafltskeds wrote:
Boeing cranking out about 40 per month, so it looks like about June 2017 for first flight, 320 frames from aircraft now taking first flights. Add about 12 days for delivery, then another week or so of induction at SEA and INT. July 1st at earliest is my guess.



753:
N53868 entered MCN 2153/30Sep, possible ISP and/or slimlines


In for ISP only it seems
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Mon Oct 03, 2016 2:38 am

iahcsr wrote:
CONTACREW wrote:
SQ22 wrote:

Thanks CALTECH.

Anyone has an idea which seats in the new domestic F cabin are blocked for the crew on longer legs? 4A and B?


Pilot Crew Rest: 1AB
FA Crew Rest: 49KL-51KL


None of the sUA 7s have the overhead crew rest compartment? Or just the non-ERs ?


Just the non-ERs.
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:25 am

772:
N204UA entered XMN 2126/3Oct
N206UA looks like maint visit swapped with N204UA
N781UA sked to exit HKG 2120/4Oct, should have 10 across Y, Lie Flats, PDE
N782UA sked to exit SFO 875/4Oct

E175:
N86347 entered revenue service 2Oct. No wifi or PDE yet.

739:
N62895, first of new order 739ERs has begun test flights.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:39 am

does anyone if N781UA is going to be operating UA624 on the 6th of Oct (SFO-ORD)? I'm on that flight and was originally booked the seat map did show the 10-abreast seating but then switched to the 2-5-2 seating. However when I checked on the flight again tonight it switched back to the 3-4-3 seating. Anyone know how the seats way in the back are? There are several rows where there are just the two seats by the windows. Besides being closer to the loo, does the seats seem to have more space due to it only being two seats instead of three?
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Tue Oct 04, 2016 9:05 am

stealth777 wrote:
does anyone if N781UA is going to be operating UA624 on the 6th of Oct (SFO-ORD)? I'm on that flight and was originally booked the seat map did show the 10-abreast seating but then switched to the 2-5-2 seating. However when I checked on the flight again tonight it switched back to the 3-4-3 seating. Anyone know how the seats way in the back are? There are several rows where there are just the two seats by the windows. Besides being closer to the loo, does the seats seem to have more space due to it only being two seats instead of three?


Hi !

Yes, I just checked UA's map and it shows #2481 operating 624 on 6 Oct which translates into N781UA. Could perhaps change again but the closer you get to departure, it will be less likely for an equipment change.

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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Tue Oct 04, 2016 9:11 am

stealth777 wrote:
does anyone if N781UA is going to be operating UA624 on the 6th of Oct (SFO-ORD)? I'm on that flight and was originally booked the seat map did show the 10-abreast seating but then switched to the 2-5-2 seating. However when I checked on the flight again tonight it switched back to the 3-4-3 seating. Anyone know how the seats way in the back are? There are several rows where there are just the two seats by the windows. Besides being closer to the loo, does the seats seem to have more space due to it only being two seats instead of three?


As of right now, yes N781UA is assigned to that flight/date.
As always this is very subject to change.

As to the interior, I've never had the pleasure of being on this or any other sUA 772 (or sCO 772 for several years). Hopefully some other kind soul will be able to answer.
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Tue Oct 04, 2016 9:44 am

Good news

N58031 777-322(ER) United Airlines GE-90-115B Undergoing final Assembly
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Tue Oct 04, 2016 9:52 am

springtx wrote:
Good news

N58031 777-322(ER) United Airlines GE-90-115B Undergoing final Assembly


Just curious as to how you found this info?

Thanks!
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Tue Oct 04, 2016 10:24 am

avi8tir wrote:
springtx wrote:
Good news

N58031 777-322(ER) United Airlines GE-90-115B Undergoing final Assembly


Just curious as to how you found this info?

Thanks!



https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... iew?pli=1#

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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Tue Oct 04, 2016 10:52 am

stealth777 wrote:
does anyone if N781UA is going to be operating UA624 on the 6th of Oct (SFO-ORD)? I'm on that flight and was originally booked the seat map did show the 10-abreast seating but then switched to the 2-5-2 seating. However when I checked on the flight again tonight it switched back to the 3-4-3 seating. Anyone know how the seats way in the back are? There are several rows where there are just the two seats by the windows. Besides being closer to the loo, does the seats seem to have more space due to it only being two seats instead of three?


Ship 2481 is ferrying from HKG through HNL tomorrow for SFO. Scheduled to arrive in SFO just before midnight on the 4th. It just received the new interior and has been reclassed as a 77G. If that ship operates your flight the interior will only be a day old by the time you're onboard.

Hope this helps.
77H
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Tue Oct 04, 2016 1:02 pm

77H wrote:
Ship 2481 is ferrying from HKG through HNL tomorrow for SFO. Scheduled to arrive in SFO just before midnight on the 4th. It just received the new interior and has been reclassed as a 77G. If that ship operates your flight the interior will only be a day old by the time you're onboard.

Hope this helps.
77H


Thanks for the info. Only been on a brand new plane once (was a UA B777 back in 1997, i think it was only its 3rd flight, but don't remember if it had a new plane smell) would be nice that we get to be the first revenue passengers on the new configuration. I'll circle back after my trip and give you my impressions of the interior.

-Stealth

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