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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Tue Oct 04, 2016 1:11 pm

stealth777 wrote:
Thanks for the info. Only been on a brand new plane once (was a UA B777 back in 1997, i think it was only its 3rd flight, but don't remember if it had a new plane smell) would be nice that we get to be the first revenue passengers on the new configuration. I'll circle back after my trip and give you my impressions of the interior.

-Stealth


I was on the 7th 788 back from Tokyo on it's 3rd ever revenue flight (IAH-DEN-NRT-LAX), however it had several entertainment system glitches I think as a result of being brand new. The whole system had to be reset an hour into the flight, and every movie restarted, and then half way across the pacific it stopped tracking our progress on the flight map.

On a separate note, United.com has a link added for the 777-300 under seat maps, but it takes you to a blank page. Perhaps that means a seat map is pending very soon!
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Thu Oct 06, 2016 3:27 am

738:
N77510 entered INT 2144/4Oct for slimlines
N76514 exited INT 2145/5Oct with slimlines

739:
N38403 - Entered INT on 13-Sept/2137 for slimlines and scimitars, exited 2150/5Oct
N57439 sked to enter INT 2149/5Oct for slimlines

763:
N643UA entered MCN 2135/5Oct

777:
N206UA sked to enter HKG or XMN has been cancelled

CR7:
N730SK has exited the fleet. Now flying American Eagle. This is the 18th CR7 to exit the fleet this year.

E145XR:
N26141 has been stored at IGM. 2nd XR to go to the desert. Unsure if these units will be re-called into service or remain parked.

The following CR7s are also not currently flying (none had WiFi):
N708SK officially entered the AA fleet today!
N727SK also exited UAX and entered the AA fleet today.
N701SK in TUS since 9/30
N758SK in TUS since 9/21
N771SK in TUS since 9/9
N772SK in TUS since 9/11
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Thu Oct 06, 2016 7:40 pm

Will UA ever consider putting Mood Lighting on the older 737 models, or is that too Costly to do?
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Sat Oct 08, 2016 6:00 am

738
N77537 is sneaking up to EWR in the middle of the night as UA2146/8Oct. Seems Hawaii will be in its future shortly.
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Mon Oct 10, 2016 12:53 pm

Here's a pretty good article from Forbes.

What Is United Continental's New Fleet Plan?

As a part of its 2016 fleet plan, United’s fleet size will shrink by a net of 7, as it takes delivery of 21 mainline aircraft and retires more than 28 regional aircraft. We can expect the company’s fleet to stand at 736 mainline aircraft and 493 regional aircraft by the end of 2016.


http://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspecul ... 3489d389e9
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Mon Oct 10, 2016 6:44 pm

cosyr wrote:

On a separate note, United.com has a link added for the 777-300 under seat maps, but it takes you to a blank page. Perhaps that means a seat map is pending very soon!


As a follow up, they have since removed the link (that didn't work anyway). I think they must be getting closer to showing more about the seating arrangement, which makes sense as since it will fly in Jan, they are currently selling seats on flights that will ultimately be flown on the 77W. I wish this meant they were still close to revealing a Premium Economy cabin on this plane. I don't think they could this late, but I can still dream.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:12 pm

11725Flyer wrote:
Here's a pretty good article from Forbes.

What Is United Continental's New Fleet Plan?

As a part of its 2016 fleet plan, United’s fleet size will shrink by a net of 7, as it takes delivery of 21 mainline aircraft and retires more than 28 regional aircraft. We can expect the company’s fleet to stand at 736 mainline aircraft and 493 regional aircraft by the end of 2016.


http://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspecul ... 3489d389e9


I'm not sure it's all that great of an article as it seems to draw some conclusions that I'm not sure are accurate.

The 737-700s they mention are not to replace any of the mainline fleet but rather to further UAs goal of reducing their 50 seat RJ operations to around 100 aircraft. The 739MAX order will probably replace the oldest of the 752s (we know the PW 752s are on the way out as UA is not retrofitting their fuel tanks) on P.S./Transcon routes but beyond that UA seems to be very committed to stretching the life expectancy of their existing fleet out as long as they can.

They also talk about UA potentially moving to a single NB aircraft type built around Boeing offerings by the late 2020s...I'm thinking that might be looking a little to far into the crystal ball to really be anything other than a shot in the dark. One of the advantages that UA has right now is the luxury of time...they can wait and see how Boeings and Airbus (even Bombardiers) products perform in the real world before making a choice.
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Tue Oct 11, 2016 4:31 am

United1 wrote:
11725Flyer wrote:
Here's a pretty good article from Forbes.

What Is United Continental's New Fleet Plan?

As a part of its 2016 fleet plan, United’s fleet size will shrink by a net of 7, as it takes delivery of 21 mainline aircraft and retires more than 28 regional aircraft. We can expect the company’s fleet to stand at 736 mainline aircraft and 493 regional aircraft by the end of 2016.


http://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspecul ... 3489d389e9


I'm not sure it's all that great of an article as it seems to draw some conclusions that I'm not sure are accurate.

The 737-700s they mention are not to replace any of the mainline fleet but rather to further UAs goal of reducing their 50 seat RJ operations to around 100 aircraft. The 739MAX order will probably replace the oldest of the 752s (we know the PW 752s are on the way out as UA is not retrofitting their fuel tanks) on P.S./Transcon routes but beyond that UA seems to be very committed to stretching the life expectancy of their existing fleet out as long as they can.

They also talk about UA potentially moving to a single NB aircraft type built around Boeing offerings by the late 2020s...I'm thinking that might be looking a little to far into the crystal ball to really be anything other than a shot in the dark. One of the advantages that UA has right now is the luxury of time...they can wait and see how Boeings and Airbus (even Bombardiers) products perform in the real world before making a choice.

Yeah that was pretty bad.

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Re: RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Tue Oct 11, 2016 5:29 am

iahcsr wrote:
Minor observation on #3.... It's been my personal experience since the merger with the A319/20 that reliability is not all that high. It comes and goes... But lately not so much ;) The 737s break too, but proportionally the A3s seem more problematic. Granted given their age are more prone to issues.... But some days :o :shock: :oops:


Have to agree. When a 737 breaks, it breaks good, but come and go. The 320/319s are needing a lot of attention, lot's of resets. Looking at OOS reports, 320/319 were the most numerous.

boilerla wrote:
BG777300ER wrote:
I think I may have gotten confused, they won't go Polaris but it will be standard 28 lie flat seats vs 32 regular recliners.

http://thepointsguy.com/2016/03/united- ... estic-777/

Can anyone answer why they would not put Polaris on domestics? Its about the same cost and they are replacing them at the same time Polaris is coming out. Is this to preserve the international product? It just seems stupid as Polaris is coming out, to put old lie flats. Its like buying a 2016 car when 2017s are coming out.

Because UA isn't buying a 2016 car, they're installing a used 2008. The lie-flat seats installed on the 772A's aren't new seats, they're spares & seats that were pulled off retired 744s. Seats like these cost >100k each and must be ordered far in advance. UA doesn't want to spend that kind of money on the low-yield markets that the 772As will be sent to when the 2008 seats will work for a while longer.


Believe this is completely wrong. The lie-flat seats on the 772As do not seem to be spares and seats pulled off retired 744s. The P/Ns and Series are different for these B/E Aerospace seats between the 2 fleets. I'll check better, but it does seem the 772As seats are new.

Looked at Acft # 403. She has received the Slimline Seats, Slimline LAV, new galley floor mats, a dark grey with texture, not the blue coin floor of the 737 NGs. She also has Scimitars installed, and heard that all the 737-900s will be getting Carbon Brakes retro-fitted. And the carpet has been changed to, Black Chevron Carpet ? It will hide the dirt better. The old carpet on the 737 NGs looks horrible ever since the merger happened. Hasn't held up well in service at all.
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:18 pm

Well, since the lie flats on the Domestic aircraft are the same seats that are being pulled from the 3 class 772A,'s at least the first 10 will not have to deal with other seats. Just move them to the front of the aircraft and store the leftover seats for the current Hawaiian aircraft.

The rest are likely coming from sUA 772ER that will go Polaris.

Assuming 744 seats can't be used, the window pair is probably different enough from the center 4, so it will take seven 772ERs Polaris conversion to complete the new Domestic configuration as it has more window pairs. Center section of 4 seats will not be an issue as only 3 rows needed per aircraft while window pairs require four rows.

Window pairs
(Counting both sides of the aircraft)
9X5=45 available from nine 772As 3 class (5 rows per aircraft)
19X4=76 needed for all 19 units (4 rows per aircraft)
76=45= 31 row/pairs needed, would take 7 sUA 3 class units (5 rowsX7=35) to have enough seats

If my guess is correct, the first Polaris conversions will be sUA 772ERs, which will be going two class with Polaris.

I wonder if sUA and sCO 772ERs will be configured in Y to match each other - that would require moving of lavs.

UPDATES:
319:
N833UA entered LCQ 2148/10Oct, possible ISP/new F seats
Test hop on a 319 sked today 2189 LCQ-LCQ. Wonder if its N890UA?

772:
N784UA entered XMN 2130/6Oct, maint

Anyone have information on 738 N76514? If hit birds at PDX on 9/19, I remember seeing a photo somewhere of an engine change in PDX, but the aircraft is not shown on FlightAware or flightradar24 as moving since the bird strike.

E175:
N80348 entered revenue service 7Oct. This fulfills the entire 48-aircraft order for Mesa Airlines.

E170:
N979RP is now in Globe livery
N861RW has been transferred to the Republic certificate

E145XR:
N13202 is now flying CommutAir for UAX
N21129 is now flying TransStates for UAX
N11140 has exited the fleet, stored at IGM
 
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Re: RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Tue Oct 11, 2016 4:11 pm

CALTECH wrote:
Believe this is completely wrong. The lie-flat seats on the 772As do not seem to be spares and seats pulled off retired 744s. The P/Ns and Series are different for these B/E Aerospace seats between the 2 fleets. I'll check better, but it does seem the 772As seats are new.

I've wondered who the manufacturer of the IPTE seats is. Is IPTE B/E's model name or is that a United marketing term?
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Re: RE: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Tue Oct 11, 2016 4:21 pm

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And the carpet has been changed to, Black Chevron Carpet ? It will hide the dirt better. The old carpet on the 737 NGs looks horrible ever since the merger happened. Hasn't held up well in service at all.


Sounds like the same type that is on the 77Gs

adamblang wrote:
CALTECH wrote:
Believe this is completely wrong. The lie-flat seats on the 772As do not seem to be spares and seats pulled off retired 744s. The P/Ns and Series are different for these B/E Aerospace seats between the 2 fleets. I'll check better, but it does seem the 772As seats are new.

I've wondered who the manufacturer of the IPTE seats is. Is IPTE B/E's model name or is that a United marketing term?


IPTE is a UA marketing term but the manufacturer was B/E....

I wonder if the seats are coming off the 77As then vs the 744...I was just on a couple of the 77Gs and the J class seats don't seem new.
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Tue Oct 11, 2016 6:19 pm

United1 wrote:
11725Flyer wrote:
Here's a pretty good article from Forbes.

What Is United Continental's New Fleet Plan?

As a part of its 2016 fleet plan, United’s fleet size will shrink by a net of 7, as it takes delivery of 21 mainline aircraft and retires more than 28 regional aircraft. We can expect the company’s fleet to stand at 736 mainline aircraft and 493 regional aircraft by the end of 2016.


http://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspecul ... 3489d389e9


I'm not sure it's all that great of an article as it seems to draw some conclusions that I'm not sure are accurate.

The 737-700s they mention are not to replace any of the mainline fleet but rather to further UAs goal of reducing their 50 seat RJ operations to around 100 aircraft. The 739MAX order will probably replace the oldest of the 752s (we know the PW 752s are on the way out as UA is not retrofitting their fuel tanks) on P.S./Transcon routes but beyond that UA seems to be very committed to stretching the life expectancy of their existing fleet out as long as they can.

They also talk about UA potentially moving to a single NB aircraft type built around Boeing offerings by the late 2020s...I'm thinking that might be looking a little to far into the crystal ball to really be anything other than a shot in the dark. One of the advantages that UA has right now is the luxury of time...they can wait and see how Boeings and Airbus (even Bombardiers) products perform in the real world before making a choice.


If this is the case: what in the hell will run the PS flights? Or is PS going away too? There isn't enough slack in the RR fleet to cover these missions - and the MAX is still a ways off from being delivered
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Tue Oct 11, 2016 10:34 pm

piedmont762 wrote:
United1 wrote:
11725Flyer wrote:
Here's a pretty good article from Forbes.

What Is United Continental's New Fleet Plan?

As a part of its 2016 fleet plan, United’s fleet size will shrink by a net of 7, as it takes delivery of 21 mainline aircraft and retires more than 28 regional aircraft. We can expect the company’s fleet to stand at 736 mainline aircraft and 493 regional aircraft by the end of 2016.


http://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspecul ... 3489d389e9


I'm not sure it's all that great of an article as it seems to draw some conclusions that I'm not sure are accurate.

The 737-700s they mention are not to replace any of the mainline fleet but rather to further UAs goal of reducing their 50 seat RJ operations to around 100 aircraft. The 739MAX order will probably replace the oldest of the 752s (we know the PW 752s are on the way out as UA is not retrofitting their fuel tanks) on P.S./Transcon routes but beyond that UA seems to be very committed to stretching the life expectancy of their existing fleet out as long as they can.

They also talk about UA potentially moving to a single NB aircraft type built around Boeing offerings by the late 2020s...I'm thinking that might be looking a little to far into the crystal ball to really be anything other than a shot in the dark. One of the advantages that UA has right now is the luxury of time...they can wait and see how Boeings and Airbus (even Bombardiers) products perform in the real world before making a choice.


If this is the case: what in the hell will run the PS flights? Or is PS going away too? There isn't enough slack in the RR fleet to cover these missions - and the MAX is still a ways off from being delivered


The PW 752s can stick around until late 2018 so it's not like they are going away tomrrow and UA is scheduled to take delivery 739MAX aircraft in 2018. UA is shifting more and more 752s off transatlantic flights so there should be quite a bit of slack in the RR fleet anyway. Also keep in mind that UA is running other types of aircraft then 752s on P.S. routes....772s and occasionally 787s pop up.
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Tue Oct 11, 2016 10:44 pm

FYI:
Looking at this Thursday westbound there are
EWR-SFO 8 sCo 752s & 11 ps units
EWR-LAX 11 sCO 752s & only 4 ps units.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Wed Oct 12, 2016 12:42 pm

739
N66895 Delivered BFISEA UA2200/11OCT.
Interesting 895 is LN6105.
The next UA listed is LN6135 N66897
LN6114 and 6132 have no customer or type info so logically one of them should be N62896
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:33 pm

UAL 900ER's
Line 6135 N62896
Line 6164 N66897
Line 6184 N61898
Line 6195 N63899
Line 6212 N38479
 
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Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:27 pm

Boeing12345 wrote:
UAL 900ER's
Line 6135 N62896
Line 6164 N66897
Line 6184 N61898
Line 6195 N63899
Line 6212 N38479


Ah, 6135 is 896.. Thought it might be a typo. :D
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Fri Oct 14, 2016 4:54 pm

Nose...... Type...........EFF......MFG S/N............N Number.......Line #

0895....... 737-924ER..895......62796.................N62895...........6105
0896....... 737-924ER..896......62768.................N62896...........6135
0897....... 737-924ER..897......62814.................N66897...........6164
0898........737-924ER..898......62815.................N61898...........6184
0899....... 737-924ER..899......62816.................N63899...........6195
0479........737-924ER..479..... 62817................ N38479.......... 6212

0532........737-824......532......62749.................N76532...........5639
0533........737-824......533......62748.................N76533...........5970
0534........737-824......534......62750.................N86534...........6036
0535........737-824......535......62751.................N77535...........6047
0536........737-824......536......62766.................N77536...........6056
0537........737-824......537......62767.................N77537...........6085
0538........737-824......538......63694.................N77538...........6204
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Fri Oct 14, 2016 5:31 pm

iahcsr wrote:
CALTECH wrote:
Acft Induct
4890 08/18/2016
4891 11/22/2016
4892 01/23/2017
4893 01/02/2017
4894 03/24/2017
4895 03/03/2017
4896 05/23/2017
4897 01/17/2018
4898 02/06/2018
4899 03/18/2018


Any idea if the induction if these ex-CZ A319s will become faster with each one? The first seemed to take forever.. but a lot of that was waiting for FAA STCs and such.


Looks like about 3 weeks in heavy check, then a week with outside vendor. About a month from what can be gathered.

# 101 should be going in for Scimitars on the 16th, in SFO.......
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Sat Oct 15, 2016 1:49 am

So any word on the two birds that suffered some damage at EWR this week:

N77006 and N670UA involved in separate incidents
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Sat Oct 15, 2016 4:05 am

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So any word on the two birds that suffered some damage at EWR this week:

N670UA is scheduled to operate UA 51 EWR-MAD 15OCT (tomorrow) so presumably it's been repaired.
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Sun Oct 16, 2016 7:12 am

len90 wrote:
So any word on the two birds that suffered some damage at EWR this week:

N77006 and N670UA involved in separate incidents

FlightAware shows both still sitting in EWR....
... but then FA also shows 739 N62895 as still at BFI when it's been delivered and at SEA since the 11th.
BTW N62896 had its B1 on the 14th so it should be good to go 7-10 days.
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Sun Oct 16, 2016 5:19 pm

319:
N890UA exited LCQ, ferry to CWF 2129/13Oct

738:
N12221 exited INT 2195/14Oct with slimlines/scimitars
N33292 entered INT 2121/15Oct for slimlines/scimitars


772:
N220UA entered XM 2121/10Oct
N37018 entered HKG 2156/6Oct

788:
N30913 - Reported PDE has been enabled, but not shown on United.com

CR7:
N774SK - TUS as of 7-Oct, possible fleet exit
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:37 am

calpsafltskeds wrote:
Well, since the lie flats on the Domestic aircraft are the same seats that are being pulled from the 3 class 772A,'s at least the first 10 will not have to deal with other seats. Just move them to the front of the aircraft and store the leftover seats for the current Hawaiian aircraft.

The rest are likely coming from sUA 772ER that will go Polaris.

Assuming 744 seats can't be used, the window pair is probably different enough from the center 4, so it will take seven 772ERs Polaris conversion to complete the new Domestic configuration as it has more window pairs. Center section of 4 seats will not be an issue as only 3 rows needed per aircraft while window pairs require four rows.

Window pairs
(Counting both sides of the aircraft)
9X5=45 available from nine 772As 3 class (5 rows per aircraft)
19X4=76 needed for all 19 units (4 rows per aircraft)
76=45= 31 row/pairs needed, would take 7 sUA 3 class units (5 rowsX7=35) to have enough seats

If my guess is correct, the first Polaris conversions will be sUA 772ERs, which will be going two class with Polaris.

I wonder if sUA and sCO 772ERs will be configured in Y to match each other - that would require moving of lavs.

UPDATES:
319:
N833UA entered LCQ 2148/10Oct, possible ISP/new F seats
Test hop on a 319 sked today 2189 LCQ-LCQ. Wonder if its N890UA?

772:
N784UA entered XMN 2130/6Oct, maint

Anyone have information on 738 N76514? If hit birds at PDX on 9/19, I remember seeing a photo somewhere of an engine change in PDX, but the aircraft is not shown on FlightAware or flightradar24 as moving since the bird strike.

E175:
N80348 entered revenue service 7Oct. This fulfills the entire 48-aircraft order for Mesa Airlines.

E170:
N979RP is now in Globe livery
N861RW has been transferred to the Republic certificate

E145XR:
N13202 is now flying CommutAir for UAX
N21129 is now flying TransStates for UAX
N11140 has exited the fleet, stored at IGM


Is 11140 an XR ? I thought those are the ones UA is keeping because of age and winglet fuel savings.
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Mon Oct 17, 2016 7:08 am

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Is 11140 an XR ? I thought those are the ones UA is keeping because of age and winglet fuel savings.


It is an XR. So far 3 XRs have been parked. Not entirely sure yet if these XRs might eventually join the C5 fleet.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:50 am

Any ideas when the 757 split scimitars will be fitted ? I thought I read further back in the thread it was this month.

If the plan is still on, will they be fitted on the subCO 752's and 753's.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:04 pm

77H wrote:
Any ideas when the 757 split scimitars will be fitted ? I thought I read further back in the thread it was this month.

If the plan is still on, will they be fitted on the subCO 752's and 753's.


The first one A/C #101 is in SFO getting them installed. So far the 753s don't appear to be getting them.
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Mon Oct 17, 2016 7:45 pm

CONTACREW wrote:
77H wrote:
Any ideas when the 757 split scimitars will be fitted ? I thought I read further back in the thread it was this month.

If the plan is still on, will they be fitted on the subCO 752's and 753's.


The first one A/C #101 is in SFO getting them installed. So far the 753s don't appear to be getting them.


Acft #101 has been pushed back to the 18th of November. Only -224s for now.
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:59 pm

Are both N73435 and N75436 B739s in the Continental Retro livery? Can anyone tell me when either will be arriving/departing BOS within the next two weeks?
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Mon Oct 17, 2016 9:03 pm

JeffinMass wrote:
Are both N73435 and N75436 B739s in the Continental Retro livery? Can anyone tell me when either will be arriving/departing BOS within the next two weeks?


N75435 is the New Continental Retro-Jet and was just in BOS this morning around 10am. N75436 is in standard paint now. I'm sure it was a typo, but in your quote, you put down N73435 instead of N75435.
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Mon Oct 17, 2016 10:30 pm

iahcsr wrote:
len90 wrote:
So any word on the two birds that suffered some damage at EWR this week:

N77006 and N670UA involved in separate incidents

FlightAware shows both still sitting in EWR....
... but then FA also shows 739 N62895 as still at BFI when it's been delivered and at SEA since the 11th.
BTW N62896 had its B1 on the 14th so it should be good to go 7-10 days.


Acft # 895 ETR is 0800 18 Oct 2016
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:46 pm

N670UA ETR is 0800 18 Oct.
N77006 needs more TLC after the Lufthansa A340 was towed into it.

777-322ERs will come with AAA.
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:43 am

CALTECH wrote:
N670UA ETR is 0800 18 Oct.
N77006 needs more TLC after the Lufthansa A340 was towed into it.

777-322ERs will come with AAA.


AAA? Is that for the emergency roadside assistance? :)
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:45 am

I was just looking at the investor update and it shows in the fleet plan the retirement of 4 757 by year's end...are these P.S. birds? I know there was some discussion about the 752s but none about retiring them and there is no indication on the fleet website.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:59 am

SFOtoORD wrote:
CALTECH wrote:
N670UA ETR is 0800 18 Oct.
N77006 needs more TLC after the Lufthansa A340 was towed into it.

777-322ERs will come with AAA.


AAA? Is that for the emergency roadside assistance? :)


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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Tue Oct 18, 2016 2:25 am

815Oceanic wrote:
I was just looking at the investor update and it shows in the fleet plan the retirement of 4 757 by year's end...are these P.S. birds? I know there was some discussion about the 752s but none about retiring them and there is no indication on the fleet website.


Those 4 were the only remaining non-P.S. sUA 757's with PW engines, leaving 15 PW P.S. sUA 752's, 41 sCO RR 752's and 21 sCO RR 753's for a total of 77. You are looking at the year end 2015 fleet vs year end 2016. Nothing has changed with the 757's as of late and I believe those 4 have been gone for a while.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Tue Oct 18, 2016 2:25 am

815Oceanic wrote:
I was just looking at the investor update and it shows in the fleet plan the retirement of 4 757 by year's end...are these P.S. birds? I know there was some discussion about the 752s but none about retiring them and there is no indication on the fleet website.


No those 4 752s already left...they were the last of the 4 domestic 752s.
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Tue Oct 18, 2016 2:34 am

815Oceanic wrote:
I was just looking at the investor update and it shows in the fleet plan the retirement of 4 757 by year's end...are these P.S. birds? I know there was some discussion about the 752s but none about retiring them and there is no indication on the fleet website.


If i remember correctly the last non-P.S. PW 752 left the fleet in April after completing a LIH-SFO flight. I forget the plane #.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Tue Oct 18, 2016 4:43 am

United Airlines reports third-quarter 2016 performance

United Airlines today reported it's third-quarter 2016 financial results. Read the complete press release here.
United Airlines reported the best third-quarter and best year-to-date on-time performance in company history.
Flight attendants ratified a joint contract and United reached a tentative agreement with technicians and related employees for a joint contract.
Excluding special items, United reported third-quarter net income of $997 million, diluted earnings per share of $3.11 and pre-tax earnings of $1.6 billion.
Including special items, United reported third-quarter net income of $965 million, diluted earnings per share of $3.01 and pre-tax earnings of $1.5 billion.

During the third quarter of 2016, United purchased $255 million of it's common shares, representing 1.5 percent of shares outstanding. Since United's initial repurchase announcement in July 2014, United has purchased $4.0 billion of it's common shares, representing approximately 20 percent of shares outstanding. As of Sept. 30, 2016, United had $2.0 billion remaining to purchase shares under United's existing share repurchase authority.

cosyr wrote:
sCO's are in some cases older, but since they've been flying Transatlantic their whole careers they have very few cycles, sometimes only 2 flights a day, at most 4. Also, with a fleet of only 15 sUA 757's and 62 sCO, the commonality of the RR engines and other specs probably outweighs the age. If the sUA 75's are young enough, they'll probably have some residual value with FedEx if they're still in the market.


Very few cases for a sub-fleet. Older birds, a myth from misinformation....

5416 1990 GYR Parked on 8/5/2015 Sold 8/3/2016
5428 1991 GYR Parked on 10/27/2015 Sold 8/3/2016
5545 1991 GYR Parked on 10/29/2015 Sold 8/3/2016
5437 1991 GYR Parked on 12/3/2015 For long term storage
5944 1991 GYR Parked on 2/25/2016 For long term storage
5543 1991 GYR Parked on 3/3/2016 For long term storage
5548 1991 GYR Parked on 7/18/2016 For long term storage
5550 1991 GYR Parked on 4/8/2016 For long term storage
8499 1997 VCV Parked on 5/18/2016 Sold 7/22/2016
8477 1990 VCV Parked on 9/8/2016 Lease Return in work

5302 N502UA 09/14/1989
5305 N505UA 11/13/1989
5310 N510UA 06/13/1990
5312 N512UA 07/20/1990
5318 N518UA 09/14/1990
5468 N568UA 11/05/1992
5598 N598UA 12/01/1998
5687 N587UA 08/11/1993
5688 N588UA 08/16/1993
5946 N546UA 11/06/1991
5989 N589UA 11/03/1997
5990 N590UA 12/31/1997
5995 N595UA 02/04/1998
5996 N596UA 03/17/1998
5997 N597UA 01/11/1999

0101 N58101 05/12/1994
0102 N14102 06/03/1994
0103 N33103 06/23/1994
0104 N17104 07/29/1994
0105 N17105 08/18/1994
0106 N14106 09/22/1994
0107 N14107 10/14/1994
0108 N21108 11/07/1994
0109 N12109 12/05/1994
0110 N13110 12/06/1994
0111 N57111 12/14/1994
0112 N18112 02/02/1995
0113 N13113 04/11/1995
0114 N12114 07/03/1995
0115 N14115 08/14/1995
0116 N12116 03/27/1996
0117 N19117 04/24/1996
0118 N14118 03/21/1997
0119 N18119 05/12/1997
0120 N14120 06/24/1997
0121 N14121 07/29/1997
0122 N17122 08/12/1997
0123 N26123 12/12/1997
0124 N29124 01/16/1998
0125 N12125 02/02/1998
0126 N17126 02/20/1998
0127 N48127 02/25/1998
0128 N17128 03/20/1998
0129 N29129 03/27/1998
0130 N19130 05/08/1998
0131 N34131 06/09/1998
0132 N33132 06/30/1998
0133 N17133 12/22/1998
0134 N67134 02/02/1999
0135 N41135 02/19/1999
0136 N19136 03/19/1999
0137 N34137 11/29/1999
0138 N13138 12/07/1999
0139 N17139 02/03/2000
0140 N41140 02/28/2000
0141 N19141 06/30/2000
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:37 am

Ah of course, how dumb of me to forget! Thanks all!
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:28 am

The XR's that are going to the desert are being stored there until Trans States and/or Commutair get their staffing levels up to accept these aircraft.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:16 pm

319:
N833UA exited MCN 2120/18Oct, shows ISP and should have new F seats
N849UA exited LCQ 2195/16Oct, not showing ISP, will continue to monitor
N855UA entered MCN 2133/16Oct, ISP/new F??

320:
N419UA entered LCQ 2154/16oct for ISP/new F seats

738:
N77510 exited INT 2142/17oct with slimlines
N78511 entered INT 2141/16oct for slimlines
N76514 finally exited PDX 2190/18Oct - engine change after bird strike on 9/19/16

739:
N57439 exited INT 2143/17Oct with slimlines
N36472 sked to exit INT 2191/19Oct with slimlines
N62895 exited SEA new delivery induction, ferried 2152/18Oct to INT for WiFi/scimitars
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:37 pm

The sooner they get the slimline seat program done the better. I've had three oversales in as many weeks do to aircraft swaps from slimline to non-slimline planes. Given the loss of 12 seats on full flights makes for a bit of a challenge.
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:43 pm

Well, that's what happens when the standard seating chart must be for the slimline version as there are so few non-slimlines out there. Does or should UA rope theses non-slimline aircraft on specific routings or is someone swapping out aircraft after checking loads? Now 25 non-slimline 739s with 31 non-slimlined 738s.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Wed Oct 19, 2016 3:13 am

iahcsr wrote:
The sooner they get the slimline seat program done the better. I've had three oversales in as many weeks do to aircraft swaps from slimline to non-slimline planes. Given the loss of 12 seats on full flights makes for a bit of a challenge.


My problem of late has been day-of-flight swaps between A320s and A319s causing F class overbooks after the 1K members get their upgrades.
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Wed Oct 19, 2016 6:46 am

Interesting that the second exCZ 319 N890UA has moved from LCQ to CWF .... I don't recall any MX work having been done there before. What contractor is might that be?
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:32 am

According to TOCS, N890UA is in Lake Charles for paint.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Wed Oct 19, 2016 5:14 pm

CWF has been doing paint for a year or so. Seems like both CWF and AMA are paint stations. During merger painting of sUA aircraft most widebodies were painted at VCV.
 
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Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - Part 29

Wed Oct 19, 2016 5:18 pm

Unfortunate incident for UNITED on Wednesday 19 October 2016:

- UA31 MUC-EWR operated by B763 N663UA had to divert to AMS for a medical emergency. After landing the B763 went tech and all pax had to be taken to hotels, departure for AMS-EWR has been moved to 20 October 2016.

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