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RE: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2

Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:42 am

Quoting OB1504 (Reply 144):
Is AA moving away from the number-letter-letter fleet numbering system used on the Boeing fleet and some of the MD-80s?

Nope first A319 is nose number 1AA

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RE: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2

Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:34 am

Is N725AN the 56th B777 for AA?


When I did the tour of the Boeing plant in Seattle (June 19th) I saw a 777 in the factory and the decal on the side said "proudly building the 56th 777 for American Airlines. I work at DFW Tower and want to keep track of this particular 777 since I got to see it being born.
 
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RE: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2

Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:30 am

Quoting FSXJunkie (Reply 146):

With all due respect, the new AA livery is the future. After winning a CLIO award for the new livery this past May,

DP would be insane to reboot after all the time and $$$$. They've have far more pressing issues to worry about.
 
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RE: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2

Wed Aug 07, 2013 4:44 am

Quoting boeing767mech (Reply 147):
Nope first A319 is nose number 1AA

Small correction, AA is using a numbers only format for the Airbus fleet. As mentioned in the latest update from dtw757, the nose numbers (on property) are 001 through 003. Photos of the nose gear doors also show this numbering.

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RE: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2

Wed Aug 07, 2013 4:54 am

Quoting organizethesky (Reply 148):
Is N725AN the 56th B777 for AA?

Yes, N725AN is the 56th 777 for American Airlines. The first flight was on 7/7/13 and delivery to DFW was on 7/31/13.


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I got a chance to check her out while being "Americanized" in the hangar this week. This was my first time to step on a 777-300ER -- I have to say, AA and Boeing have done an amazing job.

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RE: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2

Wed Aug 07, 2013 5:30 pm

Quoting FSXJunkie (Reply 146):
When CO/UA merged the CO livery was adopted as the UA feet was already in the process of a livery change and it'd be more economical to just paint the UA fleet in CO colors than paint the combined fleet in the "rising tulip" livery.

Same thing with US/AA, it'd make far more sense economically for the AA fleet to be painted in US colors...and that's likely going to be the decision once Parker finishes decorating his new office.

You're kidding yourself if you think it's pure dollars and cents that are driving such a decision. And FWIW, AA's rebranding is much more extensive than some paint jobs on some airplanes.
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RE: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2

Wed Aug 07, 2013 7:49 pm

Quoting FSXJunkie (Reply 146):
Same thing with US/AA, it'd make far more sense economically for the AA fleet to be painted in US colors...and that's likely going to be the decision once Parker finishes decorating his new office.

Remember that the rebranding plan goes back to when AA announced its 773 and A319/738/A321 orders in 2011, before the Chapter 11 filing. The idea was that with so many new types arriving, it was time to redesign the brand that had been around since the late 1960s.

So, the rebranding effort had started long before Doug Parker started his plan to merge US and AA.

And, I think Parker understands that AA has a better reputation than US. Even my AA friends who hate the new livery are adament that AA planes should be bare metal or silver, and not Useless Air white. And these are people who are glad that Parker is showing Horton the door.

Quoting FSXJunkie (Reply 146):
When CO/UA merged the CO livery was adopted as the UA feet was already in the process of a livery change and it'd be more economical to just paint the UA fleet in CO colors than paint the combined fleet in the "rising tulip" livery

I know some marketing people, both in the marketing field and business professors who teach marketing, who think this was a bad idea. The United name and tulip U had more recognition globally than the Continental name and the CO globe. In dollars and sense, it was cheaper to simply retitle the CO planes and get the UA fleet into CO's livery. But, if the airline is United, so should the branding.

I still think, when I look at Terminal 1 at ORD, "Why are there so many CO planes there. Oh, wait, CO is now United." I should be thinking, when at IAH, why there are so many planes with tulip Us on the tails, taxiing around.
 
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RE: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2

Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:32 pm

Quoting planefreakaa (Reply 6):
The new paint job is starting to grow on me.
Quoting RyDawg82 (Reply 150):
Small correction, AA is using a numbers only format for the Airbus fleet. As mentioned in the latest update from dtw757, the nose numbers (on property) are 001 through 003. Photos of the nose gear doors also show this numbering.

You are correct. The nose gear on the 319 will reflect the same number that is on the tail. I got to tour N9002U this past weekend. It has "02" on the nose gear. So if the tail is N9048U, then it will say "48" on the nose and you will automatically know it's the 48th plane delivered.
This was the first time that I had seen the new livery in person. I have been in the anti-new scheme camp since the beginning. Surprising as it was to me, the most stunning part of the plane is the tail. That tail would look awesome at night with illumination. Everyone will know exactly who that plane belongs to.
The large American font on the side reminds me of Frontier which I think is hideous. The eagle logo is indeed, Greyhound material. Doug seems to think some tweaking might be done to satisfy the US employees who are completely losing their branding. He stated this in a Q and A. He could easily remove the new tail and put that flag they have in its place.
But I might suggest that anyone who is strongly anti-tail take a look at it close up and in person. It completely changed my opinion.
 
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RE: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2

Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:40 am

Quoting FSXJunkie (Reply 146):
Same thing with US/AA, it'd make far more sense economically for the AA fleet to be painted in US colors...and that's likely going to be the decision once Parker finishes decorating his new office.

As much as I hate the new livery, and so hoped Parker would revise (he even hinted!) the fact this thread even exists and that new planes roll out regularly w/ the new paint tell me indeed its here to stay.  
 
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RE: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2

Thu Aug 08, 2013 1:20 am

I seriously doubt DP will switch the livery now and start painting into the US Airways scheme. DL was undergoing a livery change at the same time they were merging with NW and they painted both fleets, no reason to thing AA/US wont do the same. Personally i felt it was a shame that UA adopted the CO livery, seemed a but cheap and not very well thought out to me.
 
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RE: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2

Thu Aug 08, 2013 2:16 am

I know some are anxious to see the new livery on AA's S80's & 757's, but I can't wait to see the new
Livery on the US A330's
 
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RE: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2

Thu Aug 08, 2013 2:42 am

Quoting Sooner787 (Reply 157):
I know some are anxious to see the new livery on AA's S80's & 757's, but I can't wait to see the new
Livery on the US A330's

me too! I have to admit, I was skeptical at first but the new livery is really growing on me!
 
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RE: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2

Thu Aug 08, 2013 1:11 pm

Quoting FSXJunkie (Reply 146):
Same thing with US/AA, it'd make far more sense economically for the AA fleet to be painted in US colors...and that's likely going to be the decision once Parker finishes decorating his new office.

If Parker thinks that's the right move, he's a bigger moron than even I thought.

We didn't build a new airline so that Dougie could slap the American name on a US aircraft and declare victory. IMO, the aviation community learned many things from the UA/CO merger, and one of them was not to "cheapen" the overall feel of your airline's branding by combining elements of the two that way (no offense intended to any UA/CO-ers, it's nothing personal!)

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RE: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2

Thu Aug 08, 2013 2:22 pm

Quoting AA94 (Reply 159):
IMO, the aviation community learned many things from the UA/CO merger, and one of them was not to "cheapen" the overall feel of your airline's branding by combining elements of the two that way (no offense intended to any UA/CO-ers, it's nothing personal!)

The problem with the UA/CO merger was that, for all intents and purposes, CO was the acquiring carrier. Yet, Glenn Tilton wasn't willing to do the merger, unless the United name remained, and HQ stayed in Chicago. Putting the UA name on the CO livery probably had more to do with egos than economics. I'm thinking that UA had the larger fleet, and most of the UA fleet was in the white and blue livery, rather than the gray and blue livery. So, finishing the UA fleet and repainting the CO fleet with the tulip U would have been cheaper.

The twist with AA/US is that Parker got his start at AA. I think Parker understands that AA is viewed as a better brand, both in terms of name recognition globally and perceived service quality. His problem, like that of a lot of people, is that he probably isn't thrilled with the livery, and maybe even the brand.

If AA had held off on rebranding until its exit from Chapter 11, my guess is that Parker and Co. would have reviewed what the consultants had proposed and reworked it. I could easily see a freshening of the old livery and brand, perhaps putting American and AA in the US Airways font. or painting the tail blue with the AA logo in silver, to tie US Airways into the post-bankruptcy American.
 
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RE: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2

Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:05 am

Quoting ckfred (Reply 160):
I'm thinking that UA had the larger fleet, and most of the UA fleet was in the white and blue livery, rather than the gray and blue livery. So, finishing the UA fleet and repainting the CO fleet with the tulip U would have been cheaper.

You're thinking incorrectly. CO and UA had very close to the same number of mainline aircraft, the real difference being in ratio of narrowbody to widebody, where CO had excess narrowbodies and UA had excess widebodies. UA was, as I recall, about 60% done with repainting their fleet into the "Rising" scheme while CO had their entire fleet in the same livery. "Ego" as you put it may have had a say, but there were two deciding factors: for the name United was far more recognized and perceived as more marketable worldwide; for the colors and branding Smisek, Tilton, and the rest of the executive team KNEW they were going to have to get buy-in from the CO employees and would thus have to retain some VERY VISIBLE elements of CO. Keep in mind, unlike DL/NW, CO and UA employee groups had a very long history of being very hostile towards each other.
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RE: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2

Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:12 pm

Any new update on the list of new painted aircrafts?
 
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RE: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2

Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:50 pm

Also Barbara Kiss (the person in charge of the repainting) said that "After a summer break for the busy travel season, repainting RJs will resume with about eight per month." That explains why the cr7 stop receiving the new paint.
 
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RE: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2

Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:56 pm

Apologies for not getting the Reg. before I left work, but another 772 left for VCV today.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...8/history/20130815/1400Z/KDFW/KVCV

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RE: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2

Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:55 am

7CC went to VCV today.
 
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RE: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2

Fri Aug 16, 2013 12:48 pm

Updated 8/16. The number of aircraft in the new paint officially stands at 99 and I am sure there are some already painted not yet delivered pushing the number over 100. Currently 1/3 of all 772's are wearing the new livery! The other day at ORD there were red white and blue tails galore!

CR7 (11/54)
N505AE 505
N506AE 506
N507AE 507
N508AE 508
N509AE 509
N511AE 511
N535EA 535
N536EA 6EA
N537EA 537
N542EA 542
N545PB 5PB

ERJ 145 (5/118)
N668HH 668
N925AE 925
N928AE 928
N939AE 939
N942LL 942

ERJ 175 (3/3) operated by Republic
N401YX A01
N402YX A02
N403YX A03

A319 (4/4)
N8001N 001
N9002U 002
N93003 003
N9004F 004 scheduled to arrive DFW 8/20


738 (37/218)
N963AN 3CU
N964AN 3CV
N965AN 3CW
N966AN 3CX
N967AN 3CY
N968AN 3DA
N969AN 3DB
N970AN 3DC currently at GUS
N980AN 3DN
N981AN 3DP
N982AN 3DR
N983AN 3DS
N987AN 3DT
N989AN 3DU
N992AN 3DX
N801NN 3EA
N803NN 3EC
N804NN 3ED
N807NN 3EG
N811NN 3EL
N812NN 3EM
N813NN 3EN
N908NN 3JT
N922NN 3KH
N923NN 3KJ
N924NN 3KK
N925NN 3KL
N926NN 3KM
N927NN 3KN
N928NN 3KP
N929NN 3KR
N930NN 3KS
N931NN 3KT
N932NN 3KU
N933NN 3KV
N934NN 3KW just delivered
N935NN 3KX just delivered

757 (0/97)

763 (14/58)
N366AA 366
N368AA 368
N369AA 369
N372AA 372
N373AA 373 Currently at GUS
N374AA 374
N7375A 375
N376AN 376
N378AN 378
N379AN 379
N382AN 382
N383AN 383
N386AA 386
N388AA 388

762 (0/12)

772 (16/47)
N770AN 7AA Currently at GUS
N774AN 7AE
N775AN 7AF
N776AN 7AG
N778AN 7AJ
N781AN 7AM
N782AN 7AN
N785AN 7AS
N786AN 7AT
N787AN 7AU currently at VCV
N788AN 7AV
N789AN 7AW
N790AN 7AX
N798AN 7BG
N750AN 7BJ
N768AA 7CC Currently at VCV


77W (9/9)
N717AN 7LA
N718AN 7LB
N719AN 7LC
N720AN 7LD
N721AN 7LE
N722AN 7LF
N723AN 7LG
N724AN 7LH
N725AN 7LJ

MD80 (0/181)
721,2,732,3,4,5,G,8,9,741,2,3,4,752,3,762,3,4,772,3,788,D93,5,M80,D10,M11,L10,100,AB6,319,20,21,332,3,346,388,146,CR2,7,
 
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RE: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2

Fri Aug 16, 2013 1:03 pm

Thanks for the list!! The only good thing about the delayed merger is that more airplanes will be painted, making the decision harder on Parker to change the livery, especially if the wide-bodies are painted.
 
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RE: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2

Fri Aug 16, 2013 1:45 pm

Quoting ckfred (Reply 153):
And, I think Parker understands that AA has a better reputation than US. Even my AA friends who hate the new livery are adament that AA planes should be bare metal or silver, and not Useless Air white. And these are people who are glad that Parker is showing Horton the door.

  

Parker isn't stupid. I think (hope) that he understands what he is getting control of (or at least trying to get), and appreciates the legacy and the history that he will soon be responsible for. And that includes a brand that is one of the oldest, most recognized, and most storied in aviation history.

No offense to anyone, but US Airways is not the same. The brand is less than half the age of AA, and it just does not stand for the same thing. I think the merger promo video said it all: going through the history and legacy of the two airlines, AA had things like first transcon jet service, first airport lounge, first modern frequent flyer program, etc. USAirways' big historical claims to fame? First U.S. carrier to fly the A330 and A321. I think that speaks for itself.

As an aside - when I first saw the graphics and then photos of the new AA livery, I had much the same reaction as many others: I was very sad to see the bare metal go, relatively favorable towards the new logo, but hated the new tail. However, having now seen the new livery in person on numerous occasions, I can honestly say that I have really come around to it - even the tail. It really is quite striking in person - especially the tail - and the gray, while not nearly as classy as the shiny silver in my opinion, is actually distinctive when set amidst the white of just about every other airline. The new logo looks great.
 
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RE: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2

Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:10 pm

Busy day today 8/22/13 moving planes around for new paint.

Flt 9653 VCV-DFW 777- re-painted
Flt 9652 DFW-VCV 777
Flt 9655 ORD-GUS 767
Flt 9654 ORD-GUS 777
 
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RE: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2

Thu Aug 22, 2013 4:01 pm

Quoting commavia (Reply 168):
No offense to anyone, but US Airways is not the same. The brand is less than half the age of AA, and it just does not stand for the same thing. I think the merger promo video said it all: going through the history and legacy of the two airlines, AA had things like first transcon jet service, first airport lounge, first modern frequent flyer program, etc. USAirways' big historical claims to fame? First U.S. carrier to fly the A330 and A321. I think that speaks for itself.

Going by "Brand" age you absolutely right. But both airlines can trace their linage back to the pretty far back, 1928 for AA and 1939 for US.

On you fleet list you can also add.
First to operate the 737-300.
First to operate the 737-400.
First US operator of the Dash-8.
First US operator of the Fokker 100.
 
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RE: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2

Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:11 pm

More wide bodies painted, great news! Once summer season ends we will see a rapid movement to get the AE painted.
 
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RE: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2

Fri Aug 23, 2013 1:40 am

Anybody knows the registration of the aircrafts that went into the shop today?
 
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RE: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2

Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:22 am

N404YX flew into FLL on its delivery flight in the American Eagle colors. It is now en route to PIT as Republic 9904.

[Edited 2013-08-22 19:23:37]
 
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RE: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2

Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:27 am

Any idea when the 1st 757's and S80's get their new paint?
 
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RE: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2

Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:35 am

Quoting Sooner787 (Reply 174):
Any idea when the 1st 757's and S80's get their new paint?

Next year, sometimes in 2014. It has been mentioned in another thread not long ago. Not all of them may see the new livery, but at least one of each will. I think the 757 will look good in the new livery.
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RE: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2

Sat Aug 24, 2013 5:50 pm

Update 8/24.

CR7 (11/54)
N505AE 505
N506AE 506
N507AE 507
N508AE 508
N509AE 509
N511AE 511
N535EA 535
N536EA 6EA
N537EA 537
N542EA 542
N545PB 5PB

ERJ 145 (5/118)
N668HH 668
N925AE 925
N928AE 928
N939AE 939
N942LL 942

ERJ 175 (4/4) operated by Republic
N401YX A01
N402YX A02
N403YX A03
N404YX A04

A319 (4/4)
N8001N 001
N9002U 002
N93003 003
N9004F 004


738 (39/218)
N963AN 3CU
N964AN 3CV
N965AN 3CW
N966AN 3CX
N967AN 3CY
N968AN 3DA
N969AN 3DB
N970AN 3DC
N980AN 3DN
N981AN 3DP
N982AN 3DR
N983AN 3DS
N987AN 3DT
N989AN 3DU
N992AN 3DX
N801NN 3EA
N803NN 3EC
N804NN 3ED
N807NN 3EG
N809NN 3EJ currently at GUS
N811NN 3EL
N812NN 3EM
N813NN 3EN
N814NN 3EP currently at ROW
N908NN 3JT
N922NN 3KH
N923NN 3KJ
N924NN 3KK
N925NN 3KL
N926NN 3KM
N927NN 3KN
N928NN 3KP
N929NN 3KR
N930NN 3KS
N931NN 3KT
N932NN 3KU
N933NN 3KV
N934NN 3KW
N935NN 3KX


757 (0/97)

763 (15/58)
N366AA 366
N368AA 368
N369AA 369
N372AA 372
N373AA 373
N374AA 374
N7375A 375
N376AN 376
N378AN 378
N379AN 379
N382AN 382
N383AN 383
N386AA 386
N387AA 387 currently at GUS
N388AA 388

762 (0/12)

772 (18/47)
N770AN 7AA
N774AN 7AE
N775AN 7AF
N776AN 7AG
N778AN 7AJ
N781AN 7AM
N782AN 7AN
N785AN 7AS
N786AN 7AT
N787AN 7AU
N788AN 7AV
N789AN 7AW
N790AN 7AX
N798AN 7BG
N750AN 7BJ
N799AN 7BH currently at GUS
N752AN 7BL currently at VCV
N768AA 7CC Currently at VCV


77W (9/9)
N717AN 7LA
N718AN 7LB
N719AN 7LC
N720AN 7LD
N721AN 7LE
N722AN 7LF
N723AN 7LG
N724AN 7LH
N725AN 7LJ

MD80 (0/181)
721,2,732,3,4,5,G,8,9,741,2,3,4,752,3,762,3,4,772,3,788,D93,5,M80,D10,M11,L10,100,AB6,319,20,21,332,3,346,388,146,CR2,7,
 
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RE: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2

Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:50 am

Quoting dtw757 (Reply 176):
Update 8/24.

Thanks very much for your continuous updates on the repainting progress!

Quoting Sooner787 (Reply 149):
DP would be insane to reboot after all the time and $$$$. They've have far more pressing issues to worry about.

  
We're at 105 planes in the new livery as of 24-08-2013 already. It would make no financial sense to repaint them yet again. American have been repainting and receiving new-built planes in the new livery at a rate of over 16 a month since the new corporate identity was announced.
The AA/US merger antitrust trial won't start until November at the earliest (with the DOJ asking for the trial to start in February), so the merger is very unlikely to be completed before the end of Q1 or even Q2 of 2014, if at all. If AA continues at the current rate, they're going to have around 200 planes in the new livery by the end of Q1 2014.

Quoting Sooner787 (Reply 157):
I know some are anxious to see the new livery on AA's S80's & 757's, but I can't wait to see the new
Livery on the US A330's

Good point, actually!
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RE: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2

Tue Sep 03, 2013 1:04 pm

The busy summer travel season is over and some a couple of MQ planes have gone in for paint, Two new A319's were delivered, A new 738 and a new 175 this past week. Total 115 airplanes in the new livery

CR7 (12/54)
N505AE 505
N506AE 506
N507AE 507
N508AE 508
N509AE 509
N511AE 511
N529EA 9EA Currently at AMA
N535EA 535
N536EA 6EA
N537EA 537
N542EA 542
N545PB 5PB

ERJ 145 (6/118)
N613AE 613 currently at AMA
N668HH 668
N925AE 925
N928AE 928
N939AE 939
N942LL 942

ERJ 175 (5/5) operated by Republic
N401YX A01
N402YX A02
N403YX A03
N404YX A04
N405YX A05

A319 (6/6)
N8001N 001
N9002U 002
N93003 003
N9004F 004
N4005X 005
N9006 006



738 (42/219)
N963AN 3CU
N964AN 3CV
N965AN 3CW
N966AN 3CX
N967AN 3CY
N968AN 3DA
N969AN 3DB
N970AN 3DC
N973AN 3DF Currently at GUS
N980AN 3DN
N981AN 3DP
N982AN 3DR
N983AN 3DS
N987AN 3DT
N989AN 3DU
N992AN 3DX
N801NN 3EA
N803NN 3EC
N804NN 3ED
N807NN 3EG
N809NN 3EJ
N811NN 3EL
N812NN 3EM
N813NN 3EN
N814NN 3EP
N816NN 3ES currently at VCV
N908NN 3JT
N922NN 3KH
N923NN 3KJ
N924NN 3KK
N925NN 3KL
N926NN 3KM
N927NN 3KN
N928NN 3KP
N929NN 3KR
N930NN 3KS
N931NN 3KT
N932NN 3KU
N933NN 3KV
N934NN 3KW
N935NN 3KX
N936NN 3KY acceptance check DFW


757 (0/97)

763 (16/58)
N366AA 366
N368AA 368
N369AA 369
N372AA 372
N373AA 373
N374AA 374
N7375A 375
N376AN 376
N378AN 378
N379AN 379
N380AN 380 Currently at VCV
N382AN 382
N383AN 383
N386AA 386
N387AA 387 currently at GUS
N388AA 388

762 (0/12)

772 (19/47)
N770AN 7AA
N773AN 7AD currently at VCV
N774AN 7AE
N775AN 7AF
N776AN 7AG
N778AN 7AJ
N781AN 7AM
N782AN 7AN
N785AN 7AS
N786AN 7AT
N787AN 7AU
N788AN 7AV
N789AN 7AW
N790AN 7AX
N798AN 7BG
N750AN 7BJ
N799AN 7BH currently at GUS
N752AN 7BL currently at VCV
N768AA 7CC


77W (9/9)
N717AN 7LA
N718AN 7LB
N719AN 7LC
N720AN 7LD
N721AN 7LE
N722AN 7LF
N723AN 7LG
N724AN 7LH
N725AN 7LJ

MD80 (0/181)

Updated 9/3/13
721,2,732,3,4,5,G,8,9,741,2,3,4,752,3,762,3,4,772,3,788,D93,5,M80,D10,M11,L10,100,AB6,319,20,21,332,3,346,388,146,CR2,7,
 
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RE: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2

Tue Sep 03, 2013 1:39 pm

Still no 757, no Super 80 and no 762.

The 738 list is getting really big.

Quoting dtw757 (Reply 178):
MD80 (0/181)

Is it still 0/181? Because the MD-80 fleet is gradually diminishing. There may be none repainted yet but there may be a few of them that left the fleet since the previous update. Same with the 757 fleet. I know the 762 fleet will soon be less than 12 with the arrival of the new A321T early next year.

Thanks anyway for your hard work on the regular update.

Ben Soriano

[Edited 2013-09-03 06:41:49]
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RE: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2

Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:39 pm

Quoting American 767 (Reply 179):
Is it still 0/181? Because the MD-80 fleet is gradually diminishing. There may be none repainted yet but there may be a few of them that left the fleet since the previous update. Same with the 757 fleet. I know the 762 fleet will soon be less than 12 with the arrival of the new A321T early next year.

Good point...I haven't updated or thought to update those fleet totals in a while. Also the 135's are about gone!
721,2,732,3,4,5,G,8,9,741,2,3,4,752,3,762,3,4,772,3,788,D93,5,M80,D10,M11,L10,100,AB6,319,20,21,332,3,346,388,146,CR2,7,
 
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RE: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2

Tue Sep 03, 2013 4:06 pm

Quoting American 767 (Reply 179):

The 757 fleet is down to 93 a/c, and the S80 is down to 176 a/c.
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RE: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2

Tue Sep 03, 2013 4:32 pm

Quoting qqflyboy (Reply 181):
The 757 fleet is down to 93 a/c, and the S80 is down to 176 a/c.

Still, the 75Ls aren't going anywhere for the next few years, and some of the MD-80s were built in the late 1990s. You would think AA would paint them, rather than deal with polishing the skin a few more times before retirement.
 
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RE: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2

Tue Sep 03, 2013 5:20 pm

Quoting ckfred (Reply 182):

And AA has said just that. They plan to paint both a/c types.
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RE: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2

Tue Sep 03, 2013 5:23 pm

Quoting dtw757 (Reply 178):

The busy summer travel season is over and some a couple of MQ planes have gone in for paint, Two new A319's were delivered, A new 738 and a new 175 this past week.

Glad to see AA seems to be moving quickly to repaint. With the summer schedule wrapping up it''ll be good to see more American Eagle ERJs and CR7s with new paint. The last month or so it's become quite common at my home airport of ORD to see 6, 7, 8 or even 9 repainted aircraft on the ground at a time.
 
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RE: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2

Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:30 am

Quoting dtw757 (Reply 178):
N7375A 375

I flew on it from JFK to MIA recently. It was my first flight on a AA plane repainted in the new livery. AA2351 JFK-MIA. I couldn't read the full reg, all I was able to read was the tail number 375 on the nose landing gear doors.
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RE: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2

Tue Sep 10, 2013 1:02 am

Total aircraft in new paint 122 as of 9/9

CR7 (13/54)
N505AE 505
N506AE 506
N507AE 507
N508AE 508
N509AE 509
N511AE 511
N529EA 9EA
N535EA 535
N536EA 6EA
N537EA 537
N539EA 539 currently at AMA
N542EA 542
N545PB 5PB

ERJ 145 (7/118)
N613AE 613
N668HH 668
N673AE 673 currently at AMA
N925AE 925
N928AE 928
N939AE 939
N942LL 942

ERJ 175 (5/5) operated by Republic
N401YX A01
N402YX A02
N403YX A03
N404YX A04
N405YX A05

A319 (6/6)
N8001N 001
N9002U 002
N93003 003
N9004F 004
N4005X 005
N9006 006 acceptance check DFW



738 (44/221)
N963AN 3CU
N964AN 3CV
N965AN 3CW
N966AN 3CX
N967AN 3CY
N968AN 3DA
N969AN 3DB
N970AN 3DC
N973AN 3DF Currently at GUS
N980AN 3DN
N981AN 3DP
N982AN 3DR
N983AN 3DS
N987AN 3DT
N989AN 3DU
N992AN 3DX
N801NN 3EA
N803NN 3EC
N804NN 3ED
N805NN 3EE currently at VCV
N807NN 3EG
N809NN 3EJ
N811NN 3EL
N812NN 3EM
N813NN 3EN
N814NN 3EP
N816NN 3ES
N908NN 3JT
N922NN 3KH
N923NN 3KJ
N924NN 3KK
N925NN 3KL
N926NN 3KM
N927NN 3KN
N928NN 3KP
N929NN 3KR
N930NN 3KS
N931NN 3KT
N932NN 3KU
N933NN 3KV
N934NN 3KW
N935NN 3KX
N936NN 3KY
N937NN 3LA acceptance check DFW


757 (0/93)

763 (17/58)
N366AA 366
N368AA 368
N369AA 369
N372AA 372
N373AA 373
N374AA 374
N7375A 375
N376AN 376
N378AN 378
N379AN 379
N380AN 380 currently at GUS
N382AN 382
N383AN 383
N386AA 386
N387AA 387
N388AA 388
N389AA 389

762 (0/12)

772 (21/47)
N770AN 7AA
N772AN 7AC currently at GUS
N773AN 7AD currently at VCV
N774AN 7AE
N775AN 7AF
N776AN 7AG
N778AN 7AJ
N781AN 7AM
N782AN 7AN
N785AN 7AS
N786AN 7AT
N787AN 7AU
N788AN 7AV
N789AN 7AW
N790AN 7AX
N798AN 7BG
N750AN 7BJ
N799AN 7BH
N752AN 7BL
N753AN 7BM currently at VCV
N768AA 7CC


77W (9/9)
N717AN 7LA
N718AN 7LB
N719AN 7LC
N720AN 7LD
N721AN 7LE
N722AN 7LF
N723AN 7LG
N724AN 7LH
N725AN 7LJ

MD80 (0/176)
721,2,732,3,4,5,G,8,9,741,2,3,4,752,3,762,3,4,772,3,788,D93,5,M80,D10,M11,L10,100,AB6,319,20,21,332,3,346,388,146,CR2,7,
 
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RE: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2

Tue Sep 10, 2013 1:09 am

Thanks for keeping us updated. Contrary to what the know it alls say here, I don't believe the 757s and the mad dogs will be painted.
 
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RE: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2

Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:42 am

Quoting arielwar (Reply 187):
I don't believe the 757s and the mad dogs will be painted.

I'm not so sure about that, AA's last S80 was delivered in 2001, N984TW. This bird was delivered February 12, 2001 to TW. It's only 13 years old.


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RE: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2

Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:04 am

Quoting AM777LR (Reply 188):
I'm not so sure about that, AA's last S80 was delivered in 2001, N984TW. This bird was delivered February 12, 2001 to TW. It's only 13 years old.

Almost 14. It came out fresh out of the factory on Dec of 1999. The delivery occurred early in 2000, not 2001. There was an article in Airways about that, the last DC-9/M-80 built at the Long Beach CA plant.
I am sure that at least one MD-80 and at least one 757 will be repainted in the new livery. 762? I'm not sure.

Quoting AM777LR (Reply 188):
AA's newest 757, N172AJ was delivered April 30, 2002 only 12 years old!

And it was just the last day of the 727 at American. I flew that day on the very final flight AA765 TPA-MIA.
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RE: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2

Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:20 am

Quoting American 767 (Reply 189):
Almost 14. It came out fresh out of the factory on Dec of 1999. The delivery occurred early in 2000, not 2001. There was an article in Airways about that, the last DC-9/M-80 built at the Long Beach CA plant.

Ok, It seems like planespotters.net has their facts wrong. The last maybe 20/25 S80's show they they were delivered the same day. http://www.planespotters.net/Product...r=McDonnell-Douglas&type=MD-80&p=2 Go to page 2 and scroll to the bottom.

Quoting American 767 (Reply 189):
I am sure that at least one MD-80 and at least one 757 will be repainted in the new livery.

I am positive at least one will see the new livery. I can't wait to see it!

Quoting American 767 (Reply 189):
762? I'm not sure.

I am 99% positive that the 762 will not see the new livery unfortunately. With the A321's coming online soon, the 762 will be retired within one year. Same goes for US's 762, they will be retired once the merger is final. Furthermore, once the merger is approved and final, US planes will have priority in the paint shops. I can't wait to see the A330-200/300 in the new livery.

Quoting American 767 (Reply 189):
And it was just the last day of the 727 at American. I flew that day on the very final flight AA765 TPA-MIA.

Lucky! I would have loved to fly on a AA 727!
 
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RE: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2

Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:56 am

Quoting AM777LR (Reply 190):
Ok, It seems like planespotters.net has their facts wrong. The last maybe 20/25 S80's show they they were delivered the same day. http://www.planespotters.net/Product...ell-Douglas&type=MD-80&p=2 Go to page 2 and scroll to the bottom.

It also shows the 5 China built MD-83s that TWA had as being delivered on 2-12-01 as well. I think the website is showing 2-12-01 as the date the planes were switched over to AA's certificate and therefore "Delivered to AA on 2-12-01" or at least that's what it appears.
 
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RE: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2

Tue Sep 10, 2013 4:02 am

Quoting TUSAA (Reply 191):

Ok, that's what it looks like. Thanks!
 
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RE: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2

Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:11 pm

I don't think AA is going by the date the airplane was build. If u see the list of aircrafts that are getting reprinted in the 767 family a lot of those are pretty old aircrafts. Yet they have officially announced that they will only paint have the 767-300s, alot of the younger build built 7673s won't get painted.
 
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RE: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2

Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:26 pm

Quoting arielwar (Reply 193):

We aren't going by date, we going by age. For example, N127AJ, is 13 years old. It still has a good 16 years left operating. So why would AA continue to polish the aircraft if they could paint it in the new colors. This aircraft will be needed to be polished several times before it's life comes to and end.
 
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RE: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2

Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:01 pm

What does A319 N9002U have painted between the flag and reg on the left hand side? It's not visible in shots taken around delivery time.
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RE: New AA Painted Aircraft - Part 2

Tue Sep 17, 2013 8:00 pm

Quoting hotplane (Reply 195):
What does A319 N9002U have painted between the flag and reg on the left hand side? It's not visible in shots taken around delivery time.

The only thing I can see in that region is below the registration - it's "002", which is the ship number.
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