A friend shot the A319 in question at CLT yesterday. If you compare this with all the shots on here you can see that the flag has been moved to accommodate what ever this lump or bump is. Credit Jay Selman.



[Edited 2013-09-17 13:28:17]

anyone know when the CR2's will be repainted or the American Connection operated by Chatauqua planes?

Quoting AM777LR (Reply 194): We aren't going by date, we going by age. For example, N127AJ, is 13 years old. It still has a good 16 years left operating. So why would AA continue to polish the aircraft if they could paint it in the new colors.

You're assuming AA is going to be keeping the aircraft for those 16 years and not getting rid of it before it's wore out.

On a related subject, the CR Smith Museum gift shop has the new
B77W models in stock with the new livery.

They had a large collection of 1:200 and a few Gemini 1:400 's in stock
as of last Saturday.

Quoting hotplane (Reply 197): A friend shot the A319 in question at CLT yesterday. If you compare this with all the shots on here you can see that the flag has been moved to accommodate what ever this lump or bump is. Credit Jay Selman.

Is that a GoGo Wifi ATG-4 antenna/reciever? the US Airbus' have these bumps also and I believe that's what it is.

In rough numbers, how much will this repainting program will cost to AA?

I´m guessing that will be a LOT OF money.

Quoting jmbarros12 (Reply 202): In rough numbers, how much will this repainting program will cost to AA? I´m guessing that will be a LOT OF money.

Nothing extra for all the newly-delivered 738, 773 an A319, obviously.

This - pretty old - thread discusses cost for repainting existing planes:
Cost Of Painting A Plane? (by YULYMX Jul 28 2006 in Civil Aviation)
It puts the cost for an L.1011 at $136,000 - for a full paint strip and repaint.

Keep in mind that some birds had to be repainted anyway and, according to experiences AC had with a polished 767, having a painted plane actually saves in maintenance cost. This ties in with a document Boeing themselves have published on the subject (see here).

Quoting jmbarros12 (Reply 202):

Quoting anfromme (Reply 203):

The only real spending here will be if they decide to upgrade the interior of the 7378 to be comparable to the new ones coming in OCT. We know the 7772 and half the 7673 will get a refurbish inside. but noting yet on the 737s. My guess would of been that they will do it if Horton and company stay on but if D.Parker and his crew take over then idk.

Quoting Sooner787 (Reply 200): On a related subject, the CR Smith Museum gift shop has the new B77W models in stock with the new livery. They had a large collection of 1:200 and a few Gemini 1:400 's in stock as of last Saturday.

Thanks!   

Quoting arielwar (Reply 193): Yet they have officially announced that they will only paint have the 767-300s, alot of the younger build built 7673s won't get painted.

Right now it looks like in five years or six years from now, by the end of the decade, the 767 fleet will be down to 29, only 300s and none of the 200s.

This is what I predict for the 767 fleet:

767 fleet today (Sept 2013): 12 200s and 58 300s.
767 fleet in 2015: 58 300s. No more 200s. JFK-LAX will be all A321T by mid 2015.
767 fleet in 2019: 29 300s. By then all remaining 29 will be repainted in the new livery.
Last 767 to leave by mid 2020s.

This is what I predict for the 757 fleet:

757 fleet today (Sept 2013): 93. Almost a quarter of the whole 757 fleet is now gone.
757 fleet in 2019: 20, only the ones flying internationally will remain by that time. Definitely at least one of the remaining 20 will be repainted in the new livery.
Last 757 to leave by early 2020s.

This is what I predict for the MD-80 fleet:

MD-80 fleet today (Sept 2013): 176. The MD-80 fleet is now less than half of what it was at its peak ten years ago.
MD-80 fleet end of this year: 150
MD-80 fleet end of 2014: 120
MD-80 fleet end of 2015: 90
MD-80 fleet end of 2016: 60
MD-80 fleet end of 2017: 30. By then, definitely at least one of the remaining 30 will be repainted in the new livery.
Last MD-80 to leave by late 2018 or early 2019.

Of course all of the above can change depending on how the price of jet fuel fluctuates. If it goes down then American may consider keeping the last MD-80 till the early 2020s, by then the youngest one will be 20. By then American should have received all 130 A32X's OEOs: 65 A319s and 65 A321s which include a restricted fleet of A321Ts.

Ben Soriano

Quoting American 767 (Reply 206): JFK-LAX will be all A321T by mid 2015.

The 762 schedule is wAAy reduced already next spring, and the summer schedule has not been finalized. They'll be gone by summertime I'm sure.

Any new update on the repainting of the fleet?

Any new update on the repainting of the fleet?

Quoting arielwar (Reply 209): Any new update on the repainting of the fleet?

There are already 7 A319s in the fleet according to Wikipedia.

So far no 757 and no MD-80 have yet been repainted. Don't expect that to happen before the beginning of 2014.

I don't mention the 762 because we know those are the least likely to be repainted. The remaining 12 762s will be leaving the fleet all in 2014, the last one should leave by next summer, if not next summer next fall. They'll definitely be gone in 2015.

Quoting American 767 (Reply 210):

Yea I know that, I was hoping for an updated list.

There is currently a 757 (638) at VCV . Is it there to be repainted?

[Edited 2013-09-25 19:09:07]

Quoting AA773 (Reply 212):

Let's hope! I can't wait to see it!

False alarm . Looks like N638 (757) was withdrawn from service ... Was ferried from ROW to VCV on the 9th 

Updated 9/26. If anyone has the desire to fly on an Embraer 135 you'd better do it soon as they will all be out of service within the next month or so. As far as the 140's go, they are next to leave the fleet but I don't know how fast that will all happen and if any of them will see the new paint. When the "Connection" branding disappears it may be possible that those aircraft will simply have "Connection" painted over and "Eagle" placed on them much like was done with the 10 aircraft that went from MQ to Trans States and then returned.



CR7 (14/54)
N505AE 505
N506AE 506
N507AE 507
N508AE 508
N509AE 509
N511AE 511
N513AE 513 currently at AMA
N529EA 9EA
N535EA 535
N536EA 6EA
N537EA 537
N539EA 539
N542EA 542
N545PB 5PB

ERJ 135 (0/4)

ERJ 140 (0/59)

ERJ 140 (0/15) operated by Chautauqua as American Connection

ERJ 145 (8/118)
N613AE 613
N659AE 659 currently at AMA
N668HH 668
N673AE 673
N925AE 925
N928AE 928
N939AE 939
N942LL 942

ERJ 175 (7/7) operated by Republic
N401YX A01
N402YX A02
N403YX A03
N404YX A04
N405YX A05
N406YX A06
N407YX A07

A319 (7/7)
N8001N 001
N9002U 002
N93003 003
N9004F 004
N4005X 005
N9006 006
N5007E 007 acceptance check


738 (46/221)
N963AN 3CU
N964AN 3CV
N965AN 3CW
N966AN 3CX
N967AN 3CY
N968AN 3DA
N969AN 3DB
N970AN 3DC
N973AN 3DF
N980AN 3DN
N981AN 3DP
N982AN 3DR
N983AN 3DS
N987AN 3DT
N989AN 3DU
N992AN 3DX
N801NN 3EA
N803NN 3EC
N804NN 3ED
N805NN 3EE
N807NN 3EG
N809NN 3EJ
N811NN 3EL
N812NN 3EM
N813NN 3EN
N814NN 3EP
N816NN 3ES
N818NN 3EU currently at VCV
N908NN 3JT
N922NN 3KH
N923NN 3KJ
N924NN 3KK
N925NN 3KL
N926NN 3KM
N927NN 3KN
N928NN 3KP
N929NN 3KR
N930NN 3KS
N931NN 3KT
N932NN 3KU
N933NN 3KV
N934NN 3KW
N935NN 3KX
N936NN 3KY
N937NN 3LA
N938NN 3LB


757 (0/94)

763 (17/58)
N366AA 366
N368AA 368
N369AA 369
N372AA 372
N373AA 373
N374AA 374
N7375A 375
N376AN 376
N378AN 378
N379AN 379
N380AN 380
N382AN 382
N383AN 383
N386AA 386
N387AA 387
N388AA 388
N389AA 389 currently at GUS

762 (0/12)

772 (22/47)
N770AN 7AA
N772AN 7AC currently at GUS
N773AN 7AD currently at VCV
N774AN 7AE
N775AN 7AF
N776AN 7AG
N778AN 7AJ
N781AN 7AM
N782AN 7AN
N785AN 7AS
N786AN 7AT
N787AN 7AU
N788AN 7AV
N789AN 7AW
N790AN 7AX
N798AN 7BG
N750AN 7BJ
N799AN 7BH
N752AN 7BL
N753AN 7BM
N760AN 7BV currently at VCV
N768AA 7CC


77W (9/9)
N717AN 7LA
N718AN 7LB
N719AN 7LC
N720AN 7LD
N721AN 7LE
N722AN 7LF
N723AN 7LG
N724AN 7LH
N725AN 7LJ

MD80 (0/175)

Quoting AA773 (Reply 214):

Sad to see the 757's being replaced.  

Quoting dtw757 (Reply 215):

always cool to see your updates

thx   

Quoting dtw757 (Reply 215):

Thanks for the update. Where is it that u look up this info?

Thanks very much for the update!
130 aircraft in the new livery already - pretty impressive; since they announced the rebrand in February, they've been repainting and accepting new planes at a rate of about 18/month. Again: Very impressive.

Quoting uberflieger (Reply 217): always cool to see your updates

Quoting arielwar (Reply 218): Thanks for the update. Where is it that u look up this info?

Quoting anfromme (Reply 219): Thanks very much for the update!

Thanks for the kind words. Actually it takes a little work to put it all together. There is no one place to just look it up as far as I know.

Quoting dtw757 (Reply 220): Thanks for the kind words. Actually it takes a little work to put it all together. There is no one place to just look it up as far as I know.

I enjoy reading the updates as well, keep it up and thank you!

Quoting American 767 (Reply 206): By then American should have received all 130 A32X's OEOs: 65 A319s and 65 A321s which include a restricted fleet of A321Ts.

According to aerotransport.org, AA has topped up their 319/321 orders. They have now ordered 69 319's and 80 321's.

Thanks for keeping this list going!

The 319s are coming on hot and heavy now. N9008U / 008 was delivered today, N8009T / 009 is delivered tomorrow, and N9010R / 010 arrives on 01OCT.

Also, a couple small corrections:

Quoting dtw757 (Reply 215): N379AN 379

Should be N379AA.

Quoting dtw757 (Reply 215): N387AA 387

And this one's N387AM.

Quoting N243NW (Reply 223): Thanks for keeping this list going! The 319s are coming on hot and heavy now. N9008U / 008 was delivered today, N8009T / 009 is delivered tomorrow, and N9010R / 010 arrives on 01OCT. Also, a couple small corrections: Quoting dtw757 (Reply 215): N379AN 379 Should be N379AA. Quoting dtw757 (Reply 215): N387AA 387 And this one's N387AM.

Thanks, I will get these corrected on the next update.

AA has now received its 10th A-319 from Airbus. Any idea when the next 737-800 with the new seatback entertainment will be delivered?

Quoting yyz717 (Reply 222): They have now ordered 69 319's and 80 321's.

With that many eventually in the fleet, I can't WAIT to see the 321s trickle into DFW! Should take away some of the sting of losing those beautiful 757s.

With ten 319s on property, are any routes aside from the original ICT, CLT, and CLE going to launch soon?

Flt 1366 has been an A319 DFW-HSV-DFW since Oct 1.

Quoting blink182 (Reply 227): With ten 319s on property, are any routes aside from the original ICT, CLT, and CLE going to launch soon?

DFW-BOG starts in a month or two I think.

DFW-YYZ 319 3x daily starts Oct 14, replacing 3x daily 738.

Speaking of A321's, I saw a US A321 parked over at AA's DWH hangar
while driving thru DFW on my way to work this am

Did the US bird need a quick repair?

Quoting anfromme (Reply 219): 130 aircraft in the new livery already - pretty impressive; since they announced the rebrand in February, they've been repainting and accepting new planes at a rate of about 18/month. Again: Very impressive.

Where are all the "Dougie is going to chuck the new livery and order a stop to repaints immediately" conspiracy theorists now?

Updated 10/4. Pretty active week including several new aircraft being delivered. A full half of the 772 fleet will now be in the new colors. It's also looking like American Connection brand aircraft will begin to disappear and should be totally gone around a year from now. A couple of cities which are currently only serviced by RP (FNT, TOL) will begin to see MQ metal begin to return in January.

CR7 (14/54)
N505AE 505
N506AE 506
N507AE 507
N508AE 508
N509AE 509
N511AE 511
N513AE 513 currently at AMA
N529EA 9EA
N535EA 535
N536EA 6EA
N537EA 537
N539EA 539
N542EA 542
N545PB 5PB

ERJ 135 (0/4)

ERJ 140 (0/59)

ERJ 140 (0/15) operated by Chautauqua as American Connection

ERJ 145 (9/118)
N611AE 611 Currently at AMA
N613AE 613
N659AE 659
N668HH 668
N673AE 673
N925AE 925
N928AE 928
N939AE 939
N942LL 942

ERJ 175 (9/9) operated by Republic
N401YX A01
N402YX A02
N403YX A03
N404YX A04
N405YX A05
N406YX A06
N407YX A07
N408YX A08
N409YX A09

A319 (10/10)
N8001N 001
N9002U 002
N93003 003
N9004F 004
N4005X 005
N9006 006
N5007E 007 acceptance check
N9008U 008 acceptance check
N8009T 009 acceptance check
N9010R 010 acceptance check


738 (47/221)
N963AN 3CU
N964AN 3CV
N965AN 3CW
N966AN 3CX
N967AN 3CY
N968AN 3DA
N969AN 3DB
N970AN 3DC
N972AN 3DE currrently at GUS
N973AN 3DF
N980AN 3DN
N981AN 3DP
N982AN 3DR
N983AN 3DS
N987AN 3DT
N989AN 3DU
N992AN 3DX
N801NN 3EA
N803NN 3EC
N804NN 3ED
N805NN 3EE
N807NN 3EG
N809NN 3EJ
N811NN 3EL
N812NN 3EM
N813NN 3EN
N814NN 3EP
N816NN 3ES
N818NN 3EU currently at VCV
N908NN 3JT
N922NN 3KH
N923NN 3KJ
N924NN 3KK
N925NN 3KL
N926NN 3KM
N927NN 3KN
N928NN 3KP
N929NN 3KR
N930NN 3KS
N931NN 3KT
N932NN 3KU
N933NN 3KV
N934NN 3KW
N935NN 3KX
N936NN 3KY
N937NN 3LA
N938NN 3LB


757 (0/93)

763 (17/58)
N366AA 366
N368AA 368
N369AA 369
N372AA 372
N373AA 373
N374AA 374
N7375A 375
N376AN 376
N378AN 378
N379AA 379
N380AN 380
N382AN 382
N383AN 383
N386AA 386
N387AM 387
N388AA 388
N389AA 389 currently at GUS

762 (0/12)

772 (24/47)
N770AN 7AA
N772AN 7AC
N773AN 7AD
N774AN 7AE
N775AN 7AF
N776AN 7AG
N778AN 7AJ
N781AN 7AM
N782AN 7AN
N785AN 7AS
N786AN 7AT
N787AN 7AU
N788AN 7AV
N789AN 7AW
N790AN 7AX
N798AN 7BG
N750AN 7BJ
N799AN 7BH
N752AN 7BL
N753AN 7BM
N760AN 7BV currently at VCV
N761AN 7BW currently at VCV
N767AJ 7CB currently at GUS
N768AA 7CC


77W (9/9)
N717AN 7LA
N718AN 7LB
N719AN 7LC
N720AN 7LD
N721AN 7LE
N722AN 7LF
N723AN 7LG
N724AN 7LH
N725AN 7LJ

MD80 (0/173)

Quoting Sooner787 (Reply 231): Speaking of A321's, I saw a US A321 parked over at AA's DWH hangar while driving thru DFW on my way to work this am

Negative, this weekend both the Aviation & Transportation Career Expo AND Skyball are happening at the same time at DFW. Static display aircraft are in for the occasion as always. Both events are sponsored and hosted in part by American Airlines. New for this year, US Airways is a co-sponsor.

http://www.dfwcareerexpo.com
http://www.skyballinfo.com/

Ryan

Hello,

Not 100% related to the subject but also not worth opening a new thread. AA's next A319 (MSN 5827 / N9013A) made its first flight before being painted, a quite unusual sight:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRMn3Ymq40Y

Updated 10/13 Total in new paint 148 aircraft

CR7 (15/54)
N505AE 505
N506AE 506
N507AE 507
N508AE 508
N509AE 509
N511AE 511
N512AE 512 currently at AMA
N513AE 513
N529EA 9EA
N535EA 535
N536EA 6EA
N537EA 537
N539EA 539
N542EA 542
N545PB 5PB

ERJ 135 (0/4)

ERJ 140 (0/59)

ERJ 140 (0/15) operated by Chautauqua as American Connection

ERJ 145 (10/118)
N611AE 611
N613AE 613
N659AE 659
N665BC 665 currently at AMA
N668HH 668
N673AE 673
N925AE 925
N928AE 928
N939AE 939
N942LL 942

ERJ 175 (9/9) operated by Republic
N401YX A01
N402YX A02
N403YX A03
N404YX A04
N405YX A05
N406YX A06
N407YX A07
N408YX A08
N409YX A09

A319 (10/10)
N8001N 001
N9002U 002
N93003 003
N9004F 004
N4005X 005
N9006 006
N5007E 007
N9008U 008
N8009T 009 acceptance check
N9010R 010 acceptance check


738 (49/221)
N963AN 3CU
N964AN 3CV
N965AN 3CW
N966AN 3CX
N967AN 3CY
N968AN 3DA
N969AN 3DB
N970AN 3DC
N972AN 3DE currrently at GUS
N973AN 3DF
N980AN 3DN
N981AN 3DP
N982AN 3DR
N983AN 3DS
N987AN 3DT
N989AN 3DU
N992AN 3DX
N801NN 3EA
N803NN 3EC
N804NN 3ED
N805NN 3EE
N807NN 3EG
N809NN 3EJ
N811NN 3EL
N812NN 3EM
N813NN 3EN
N814NN 3EP
N816NN 3ES
N818NN 3EU
N821NN 3EX currently at GUS
N894NN 3JD currently at VCV
N908NN 3JT
N922NN 3KH
N923NN 3KJ
N924NN 3KK
N925NN 3KL
N926NN 3KM
N927NN 3KN
N928NN 3KP
N929NN 3KR
N930NN 3KS
N931NN 3KT
N932NN 3KU
N933NN 3KV
N934NN 3KW
N935NN 3KX
N936NN 3KY
N937NN 3LA
N938NN 3LB


757 (0/93)

763 (20/58)
N349AN 348 currently at ROW
N350AN 350 currently at AMA
N366AA 366
N368AA 368
N369AA 369
N372AA 372
N373AA 373
N374AA 374
N7375A 375
N376AN 376
N378AN 378
N379AA 379
N380AN 380
N382AN 382
N383AN 383
N386AA 386
N387AM 387
N388AA 388
N389AA 389
N395AN 395 currently at GUS

762 (0/12)

772 (26/47)
N770AN 7AA
N772AN 7AC
N773AN 7AD
N774AN 7AE
N775AN 7AF
N776AN 7AG
N777AN 7AH currently at VCV
N778AN 7AJ
N779AN 7AK currently at VCV
N781AN 7AM
N782AN 7AN
N785AN 7AS
N786AN 7AT
N787AN 7AU
N788AN 7AV
N789AN 7AW
N790AN 7AX
N798AN 7BG
N750AN 7BJ
N799AN 7BH
N752AN 7BL
N753AN 7BM
N760AN 7BV
N761AN 7BW
N767AJ 7CB
N768AA 7CC


77W (9/9)
N717AN 7LA
N718AN 7LB
N719AN 7LC
N720AN 7LD
N721AN 7LE
N722AN 7LF
N723AN 7LG
N724AN 7LH
N725AN 7LJ

MD80 (0/172)

Quoting dtw757 (Reply 236): N395AN 395 currently at GUS

so no more Oneworld 767?

Great update! thanks!!

saludos

Quoting dtw757 (Reply 236):

Thank you so much for keeping us updated!

I heard this second hand from a fellow pilot who was at a local base meeting. I did not attend, so again, this is second hand info.

The group was told that they were not planning on painting the 80's.

Anyone else hear the same info?

Quoting aluminumtubing (Reply 239): The group was told that they were not planning on painting the 80's.

Not all of them that's for sure, but likely at least ONE of the remaining 172 aircraft, it all depends whether or not there are D Checks scheduled for those. Same with the 757, not all of them but at least ONE of the remaining 93 aircraft in the fleet. At this point I don't think any of the 762s will be repainted, given that they have seven months left in the fleet, the last flight is scheduled for May of 2014.
However I wouldn't bet anything about which will and which won't be repainted.

Quoting aluminumtubing (Reply 239): Anyone else hear the same info?

I heard the same thing last week, and possibly speeding up the MD-80 retirements.They recently retired 5 MD-80s in one week.

Quoting TUSAA (Reply 241): I heard the same thing last week, and possibly speeding up the MD-80 retirements.They recently retired 5 MD-80s in one week.

I could be, but in the last few years this has been more or less the pattern. During spring / summer there aren't many retirements, while during the months going from Oct to Feb there are a lot more.

Quoting ORL777 (Reply 237):

Or maybe we'll finally see what the OneWorld scheme will be like with the new colors!  

Quoting American 767 (Reply 240): . Same with the 757, not all of them but at least ONE of the remaining 93 aircraft in the fleet.

Has there been any reason mentioned as to why the 75L metal isn't being painted?

Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 244): Has there been any reason mentioned as to why the 75L metal isn't being painted?

I would think because none has had a D Check yet since the new scheme was introduced earlier this year.

Quoting American 767 (Reply 245): I would think because none has had a D Check yet since the new scheme was introduced earlier this year.

I can't remember the AA's 757 history. Are the 75Ls the newest of the 757s or are there newer jets in the fleet.