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Fri May 13, 2016 1:19 am

Ryanair launches 'rescue sale' after CityJet cancels Cork flights

Ryanair has lost little time in pouncing with a sale, following CityJet's decision to cancel its Cork to London City service.

http://m.independent.ie/life/travel/...cancels-cork-flights-34709278.html
 
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Fri May 13, 2016 2:32 am

Quoting OA260 (Reply 100):
Ryanair launches 'rescue sale' after CityJet cancels Cork flights

Aer Lingus were first, albeit with a higher fare and a slightly more sensitive approach to things!

"While the suspension is disappointing news for the Cork and Munster region, Aer Lingus is committed to serving the London market"

http://blog.aerlingus.com/blog/2016/...r-sale-fares-from-cork-to-heathrow
 
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Fri May 13, 2016 12:06 pm

When does the DOT 28 day timeline lapse in granting NAI final approval for operations from ORK(or SNN)? I thought I read it was May 16th?
 
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Fri May 13, 2016 12:26 pm

Ive heard that EI-CJX will operate today's EI135 to BOS. I cant find it on FR24, can anyone confirm this?
 
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Fri May 13, 2016 12:27 pm

Quoting RRTrent (Reply 103):

Ive heard that EI-CJX will operate today's EI135 to BOS. I cant find it on FR24, can anyone confirm this?

FR24 still showing the Titan bird as operating it. Later departure time today it seems too for 135. 13.40, so we will know shortly what aircraft is operating it.
 
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Fri May 13, 2016 12:33 pm

Quoting EIBoston (Reply 104):
Later departure time today it seems too for 135. 13.40, so we will know shortly what aircraft is operating it.

It was out for a test flight this morning, which I've heard was successful. This might be the cause of the 2hr delay.

As a celebratory measure, we'll let the blame for today's delay slide  
 
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Fri May 13, 2016 12:56 pm

Quoting RRTrent (Reply 105):
As a celebratory measure, we'll let the blame for today's delay slide  

Yes indeed! Everybody happy  
 
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Fri May 13, 2016 1:58 pm

Looks like the Titan aircraft did the 135/134 rotation after all.
 
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Fri May 13, 2016 2:05 pm

Quoting EIBoston (Reply 107):
Looks like the Titan aircraft did the 135/134 rotation after all.

Nope, EI-CJX is operating it. Its not appearing on FR24, but she's in the air.
 
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Fri May 13, 2016 2:44 pm

Quoting RRTrent (Reply 108):

Nope, EI-CJX is operating it. Its not appearing on FR24, but she's in the air.

Ok, just saw the Titan plane on FR24 but it is no longer there. Maybe I should go into Logan and see for myself later 
 
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Fri May 13, 2016 2:48 pm

Quoting EIBoston (Reply 109):
Maybe I should go into Logan and see for myself later

I'm not in SNN and am only going on 2nd hand info, so I cant vouch for its validity, but its a usually reliable source.
 
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Fri May 13, 2016 2:50 pm

Quoting RRTrent (Reply 110):
I'm not in SNN and am only going on 2nd hand info, so I cant vouch for its validity, but its a usually reliable source.


EI-CJX "St. Boice" is operating EI135 to BOS. Perhaps "St. Moill" would be a more apt name!

[Edited 2016-05-13 08:07:01]
 
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Fri May 13, 2016 3:05 pm

The 757 looks great in EI colors.
 
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Fri May 13, 2016 3:16 pm

Quoting 321neo (Reply 111):

I was looking for him on Twitter but had forgotten his name, I knew he'd have a picture of it  
 
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Fri May 13, 2016 3:18 pm

Quoting OA260 (Reply 50):
Random when it comes down to non status passengers. Usually airlines look at their Golds/Silvers and then other Alliance member equiv then they go down the line. You could have been the only one left within a group of a number of people who they needed to upgrade.

Many thanks.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 75):
Indeed it must be said that WX did all they could to make it work. I was always seeing banners on websites and adverts for it so it was not due to lack of effort. Kudos to them for giving it a go.

Yes, fair play to WX for trying it out. They also made no delay in chancing CDG-SNN when EI ended the LHR route a few years back (well, almost 10 years ago now...scary).

Quoting EIBoston (Reply 112):

The 757 looks great in EI colors.

   I know it's not feasible, but it'd be great to see the 762 in full EI colours when they lease it from OY.
 
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Fri May 13, 2016 3:27 pm



Looked ok in the old EI scheme
 
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Fri May 13, 2016 8:07 pm

Quoting EIBoston (Reply 115):
Looked ok in the old EI scheme

Have to say I love the current livery and it has lasted well in remaining very modern so they did a good job but I also love this now retro look and reminds me of my first flights with EI over 20 years ago on the B737s .
 
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Fri May 13, 2016 9:11 pm

Quoting OA260 (Reply 116):
Have to say I love the current livery and it has lasted well in remaining very modern so they did a good job but I also love this now retro look and reminds me of my first flights with EI over 20 years ago on the B737s .

Ditto, first ever flight was on an old EI 737back in early 90's.
 
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Fri May 13, 2016 9:52 pm

Shame about ORK-LCY but people of Cork are quick to moan about lack of service and not as quick to use it!

Good to see the sun routes appear to be promising. Perhaps they may look at bucket/spade in 2017 on a bigger scale.

Quoting EIRules (Reply 97):

Always seasonal demand for AA to make it work along with EI, upping to the A333 is a sign of that.
 
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Fri May 13, 2016 10:08 pm

Quoting EIBoston (Reply 117):

Have to say I love the current livery and it has lasted well in remaining very modern so they did a good job

If only they could fix the blending issue at the forward end of the cheatline. Drives me bananas.
 
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Fri May 13, 2016 10:17 pm

Quoting EIBoston (Reply 112):
The 757 looks great in EI colors.

Has there ever been a Rolls-Royce powered aircraft in full EI colours?
 
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Fri May 13, 2016 10:41 pm

Quoting RRTrent (Reply 105):
As a celebratory measure, we'll let the blame for today's delay slide

I blame the heatwave we had!!!

Quoting RRTrent (Reply 113):
I was looking for him on Twitter but had forgotten his name, I knew he'd have a picture of it

I had read somewheere that the 4th B757 had no winglets.....thought that was here
 
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Fri May 13, 2016 11:30 pm

Quoting Eagleboy (Reply 121):
I had read somewheere that the 4th B757 had no winglets.....thought that was here

It arrived with no winglets, had them fitted along with all the other work that was required, a lot more than what the ex-Finnair birds needed it has to be said!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/eigjb/23561858523

Glad they kept those Rolls-Royce engines!

Quoting OA260 (Reply 116):
Have to say I love the current livery and it has lasted well in remaining very modern so they did a good job but I also love this now retro look and reminds me of my first flights with EI over 20 years ago on the B737s .

Loved it as well, all the liveries from that era were beauties with the bold lines and prominent logos. The white Shamrock is iconic, stand out and looked amazing in a tail line up.

Quoting 321neo (Reply 120):
Has there ever been a Rolls-Royce powered aircraft in full EI colours?

Can only think of the Viscount and Fokker F27 Friendship, no jets but may be wrong.

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 114):
I know it's not feasible, but it'd be great to see the 762 in full EI colours when they lease it from OY.

They're edging closer this year, plan to have it with full EI tail and green titles. If it's still around in a few years and the season lasts longer I'm sure they'd consider a full re-paint.

http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p578/Kev_Andrew/ei767_zpssnpjw9yw.jpg

http://www.aerlingus.com/about-us/fleet/boeing-767/

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Sat May 14, 2016 4:45 am

Quoting Shamrock350 (Reply 122):
Quoting 321neo (Reply 120):Has there ever been a Rolls-Royce powered aircraft in full EI colours?
Can only think of the Viscount and Fokker F27 Friendship, no jets but may be wrong.

Don't forget the One Elevens!

The A350s - if EI gets them - will be RR powered as well.
 
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Sat May 14, 2016 7:59 am

The Millennium Falcon touched down in BFS yesterday, disguised as Titan's 767, for filming of Star Wars, Episode VIII. Pics of the aircraft and Mark Hamill (Luke Skywalker) can be found on the BBC website and BFS's Facebook page.
 
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Sat May 14, 2016 9:04 am

Indeed. Pics of the set being build in Donegal have posted online over last few days. Also IAA issued no fly zone notice for Skelligs very recently. Not sure of when it is for however.
 
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Sat May 14, 2016 9:28 am

Yes, all making me excited about the next installment!

Quoting Eagleboy (Reply 125):
Also IAA issued no fly zone notice for Skelligs very recently. Not sure of when it is for however.

That's in case in anyone tries to do the Kessel run in less than 12 parsecs; there'll be an IAA inspector waiting, armed with a blaster, to take his licence!

Back to more terrestrial matters (!) ... I see that Jethros lists EI-FNJ as the new A320 for Aer Lingus, ex-Vueling. I recall, a few weeks back, that there was discussion of the fact that EI didn't want the one offered, for some reason, and wanted another one. Is this the new one (or will there be a new one)?

(*Interesting choice of reg; I thought they'd stopped using potential or existing destination codes for their registrations; FNJ is Pyongyang!)
 
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Sat May 14, 2016 9:29 am

Quoting Eagleboy (Reply 125):
Also IAA issued no fly zone notice for Skelligs very recently. Not sure of when it is for however.

Yes read the piece about it:


Meanwhile, no-flight zones over a number of film set locations are being implemented by the Irish Aviation Authority during the next weeks.

The longest is in place on the Dingle peninsula, in west Kerry where a 21-day order bans flying under 1.5km within a circle of an 8km radius of Sybil Head and Dunmore Head. Described by the IAA as a safety measure, the ban continues until May 26. State aircraft and Irish Coast Guard Service are, however, exempt.

Similar restrictions will apply for two and three day periods at Brow Head in West Cork (May 16-18), Malin Head, and Loop Head in Co Clare (May 17-19).

The IAA warned unauthorised drones may be seized by gardaí “as evidence for potential prosecution and in the interest of aviation safety”.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland...l-be-left-disappointed-399286.html
 
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Sat May 14, 2016 10:47 am

Quoting kaitak (Reply 126):
I see that Jethros lists EI-FNJ as the new A320 for Aer Lingus, ex-Vueling. I recall, a few weeks back, that there was discussion of the fact that EI didn't want the one offered, for some reason, and wanted another one. Is this the new one (or will there be a new one)?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/26355844483/in/photolist-H2VXj3-G9YAkM-GDwBJ3/
 
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Sun May 15, 2016 10:00 am

CityJet would be major partner in possible merger with Stobart

A decision on whether Stobart Air and CityJet will merge is likely to be made by the summer, it's understood.
And the Sunday Independent also believes that if a deal is struck, it will involve CityJet taking a substantial majority stake in the merged business, with existing shareholders in Stobart retaining a small minority.

Stobart Air operates the Aer Lingus Regional services on a franchise basis, and generates virtually all its revenue from the partnership. CityJet, which is based in Dublin, has its main operational base in London City Airport.

http://www.independent.ie/business/i...-merger-with-stobart-34714535.html

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Aer Lingus staff help transform deaf children's playground into outdoor paradise for pupils

Aer Lingus staff has helped a deaf children's playground take off.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news...-paradise-for-pupils-34714487.html
 
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Sun May 15, 2016 12:14 pm

WX and RE don't have a great deal in common, Other than both being Irish. WX have been here before with turboprop airlines - VLM didn't work out so well. I suppose cityJet might have some interest in SEN, but not at the expense of LCY. This might be a way to bring small jets to the EI network - the SSJ in EI livery would be cool and could work well from regional Irish airports.

I'm not sure on this one. A mixed fleet of ATRs, SSJs (and RJs in the interim) with CRJs for SK with no realistic prospect of rationalisation. Other than a few jobs at head office there aren't many synergies.
 
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Sun May 15, 2016 8:21 pm

I wonder if EI will be involved in these negotiations, as it's clearly relevant to them; certainly, the SSJ should be of interest to them, as they will benefit from something between the 76 seat AT7 and the 180 seat A320, not to mention the speed advantage of the jet over the AT7.

I flew back from DUB to JER today; nice flight, EI-FAT doing the honours, but the AT7 is noticeably slower - 1h20 vs. 1h on a jet; that's 40 mins for a round trip, which does make a difference when you're trying to develop an effective hub.

Leaving aside the CR9 for SAS, a fleet built around the AT7 and SSJ should work if EI is happy to have the latter in their colours.
 
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Mon May 16, 2016 1:09 pm

Quoting tonystan (Reply 133):
Without doubt the finest looking plane ever in full EI colours!

Not only do I agree with you, but I would also go as far as saying its one of the best aircraft/livery combinations ever
 
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Mon May 16, 2016 1:21 pm

Quoting RRTrent (Reply 134):
Not only do I agree with you, but I would also go as far as saying its one of the best aircraft/livery combinations ever

And the worst was the hybrid 'Ryanair / EI livery' created by half painting the Caledonian livery. .

The Aer Lingus MD-11 livery was cool also. Remained on the world aircraft for quite a while afterwards though.

The L10-11 reminds me of the sad story of 'celidh' from Prestwick and how he ruined the lives of so many inside and outside of the aviation industry. I presume he is still in prison.
Greetings from Hong Kong.... a subsidiary of China Inc.
 
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Mon May 16, 2016 1:37 pm

The Star Wars eagle has landed at ORK !


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Mon May 16, 2016 1:54 pm

Quoting BestWestern (Reply 135):
The L10-11 reminds me of the sad story of 'celidh' from Prestwick and how he ruined the lives of so many inside and outside of the aviation industry. I presume he is still in prison.

Sounds interesting. Can you tell more about this?
 
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Mon May 16, 2016 2:24 pm

Quoting 321neo (Reply 137):
Sounds interesting. Can you tell more about this?

As far as I remember, as this was VERY long ago - said he was buying Delta's Tristars to operate an airline out of stwick (PIK / EGPK), United Kingdom">PIK. Took investment, nothing happened.

There were other things he was convicted of not related to aviation though. Easy enough to find but not something I want to repeat on a work PC!

[

edit: there's a thread on it on here: http://www1.airliners.net/aviation-f...ums/non_aviation/read.main/426708/


[Edited 2016-05-16 07:27:49]
 
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Tue May 17, 2016 2:13 pm

Aer Lingus and United will code-share out of EWR from 1 September. Think it might open a few new US airports to EI.
 
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Tue May 17, 2016 2:19 pm

Do UA codeshare beyond Dublin with Aer Lingus?
Greetings from Hong Kong.... a subsidiary of China Inc.
 
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Tue May 17, 2016 2:23 pm

Quoting BestWestern (Reply 138):

They offer passengers on their websites from across the UK as well as AMS, BRU. CDG. DUS.
 
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Tue May 17, 2016 3:03 pm

Quoting Jamie2k9 (Reply 137):

I'm a little surprised at this. Given the impending return of EI to OneWorld & the transatlantic joint venture, I thought the UA codeshares would decrease / be dropped. To launch a new route & put codeshares on it now seems to suggest otherwise
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Tue May 17, 2016 4:26 pm

Quoting EIRules (Reply 140):
Given the impending return of EI to OneWorld & the transatlantic joint venture,

Planned "eventual re-entry" to Oneworld and the T/A J/V and the word "impending" are not the same thing.
 
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Tue May 17, 2016 6:35 pm

EI will cut 70 staff at BHD and around 20 cabin crew will remain at the base. They said routes are safe and will be operated from DUB. Staff can transfer to DUB if they want.

Shame but not expected since LGW closed it was always planned.
 
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Wed May 18, 2016 7:54 am

Quoting Eagleboy (Reply 141):

Indeed we are a year away and even some codeshares may survive.
 
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Wed May 18, 2016 3:47 pm

DAA has reported a 47% increase in profits for last year. Overall passenger numbers increased by 14% to a record 27.1 million.
ORK showed a decline, 25m passengers at DUB.
 
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Thu May 19, 2016 8:59 am

"Aer Lingus CEO on U.S. growth plans, oneworld frequent-flier alliance"

Aer Lingus is working to join the oneworld airline alliance and plans to expand service to the U.S. later this year and next, CEO Stephen Kavanagh said Wednesday.

“Once we get into 2017, however, we will be looking at new gateways," he added. "There are a limited number of gateways that would sustain a wide-body operation, which is the core of our operation. But we have identified a number particularly on the East Coast and in Florida.”

Source: http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel...pand-flights-gateways-us/84551378/

Obviously MIA is the destination being considered in florida, however from the east coast I'm rather surprised as I think they serve all the key location. I would say the contenders are: ATL,CLT, PHL, or even RDU?

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Thu May 19, 2016 9:01 am

Quoting OA260 (Reply 143):
Indeed we are a year away and even some codeshares may survive.

So much for codeshares surviving, but this is an additional codeshare with a major Star Alliance member.
________________________________

Some recent comments from Stevie K:

Aer Lingus CEO on U.S. growth plans, oneworld frequent-flier alliance

“Once we get into 2017, however, we will be looking at new gateways," he added. "There are a limited number of gateways that would sustain a wide-body operation, which is the core of our operation. But we have identified a number particularly on the East Coast and in Florida.”

Beyond 2017, Aer Lingus is looking for new aircraft with at least 180 seats to effectively replace the Boeing 757 for trips between Ireland and the East Coast destinations like Hartford, he said. That could open up new mid-size airports for the carrier to offer more routes to Ireland.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel...pand-flights-gateways-us/84551378/
 
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Thu May 19, 2016 9:33 am

Good flight from DUB - OSL with SK in their Plus product yesterday. Quite a full flight with lots of connections onto Scandic countries. The Norwegian crews are the best out of the pick IMHO. Very nice food and drink and service. Good legroom comfortable seats and great fares. It was good to see so much variety on the ground at DUB. We did have a delay due to queues for take off which shows the growth at DUB.


http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/ae40/PhilipOA260/2B42846C-BC94-4E38-9A76-965A94125F93_zpsmrefwjcr.jpg
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http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/ae40/PhilipOA260/B50E05A1-6358-4DB0-AD48-2F4A05F8C69A_zpsk6kigaap.jpg
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http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/ae40/PhilipOA260/E661DD42-149D-4948-8A22-11C0BECDB7F8_zpsdwa15epc.jpg


Also I noticed an improvement in offerings at the DAA lounge. Certainly a welcome change:



http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/ae40/PhilipOA260/E743C3AC-35EA-4533-A8FF-29A655E4619F_zpsjqa5qhpt.jpg
 
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Thu May 19, 2016 9:44 am

Quoting EI121 (Reply 145):
Obviously MIA is the destination being considered in florida, however from the east coast I'm rather surprised as I think they serve all the key location. I would say the contenders are: ATL,CLT, PHL, or even RDU?

As it seems to be TATL route speculation time again, I agree MIA is almost a given for Florida and I think PHL must be a strong contender on the east coast. A potential destination which seems to me to offer a great opportunity for development with a narrow body is CLE - no direct European flights whatsoever; population of 2m rising to 3.5m in the wider catchment area; large German, Irish and British ethnic populations to provide VFR traffic. I do however recognise that it is a somewhat economically deprived city which may make it a less attractive option for a new TATL route.

If they are interested in secondary cities like BDL, then ALB might be a good option - metropolitan area population of 1m; a very big Irish diaspora (also big German and Italian diaspora) and a good economic base with a lot of high tech businesses in the region.
 
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RE: Irish Aviation Thread 7/16

Thu May 19, 2016 11:21 am

Quoting dstc47 (Reply 144):
ORK showed a decline, 25m passengers at DUB

We are seeing a period of significant growth in Irish aviation but I worry that if ORK cannot grow in times like these we will never see it reach its potential. I really believe that ORK can sustain a larger EU network if only a carrier would commit to it. Until then we will continue to see LON trunk routes, limited prop services the rest of the UK and seasonal bucket & spade services

Quoting stratocruiser (Reply 148):
great opportunity for development with a narrow body is CLE

I think you might be on to something. The Midwest region is under served in general and I could see a service to one of: CLE/PIT/IND/CMH/CVG

Quoting stratocruiser (Reply 148):
then ALB might be a good option

Or potentially BUF or SYR?

With OW and the JV behind them I can definitely see IAG using EI being used to grow smaller non-prem heavy markets

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