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British Airways To Fly Direct To DOH & MCT

Thu May 12, 2016 1:36 pm

British Airways is to fly direct to both Doha & Muscat from October 30th.

Currently Doha operates via Bahrain and Muscat via Abu Dhabi.

Doha will be served with 7x 787-9 and Muscat with 5x 777.

Good to see BA opening these two routes as non-stop flights, but also will be sad to see the intra-Gulf routes gone.

Source: www.businesstraveller.com/news/ba-to-fly-direct-to-doha-and-muscat
 
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RE: British Airways To Fly Direct To DOH & MCT

Thu May 12, 2016 1:46 pm

i thought DOH had barely any O&D and was just primarly connections?
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RE: British Airways To Fly Direct To DOH & MCT

Thu May 12, 2016 1:50 pm

I'm very happy for BA serving these two destinations, DOH & MCT have a decent O&D as many British families have friends and relatives in the GCC region.
Hope they upgrade DXB to A380.
 
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RE: British Airways To Fly Direct To DOH & MCT

Thu May 12, 2016 1:58 pm

Quoting UAEflyer (Reply 2):

I doubt the A380 would make sense and also wouldn't have any to spare at the moment!
 
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RE: British Airways To Fly Direct To DOH & MCT

Thu May 12, 2016 2:01 pm

Will the existing nonstops to BAH and AUH be downgauged?
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RE: British Airways To Fly Direct To DOH & MCT

Thu May 12, 2016 2:01 pm

Quoting B742 (Thread starter):
British Airways is to fly direct to both Doha & Muscat from October 30th.

Currently Doha operates via Bahrain and Muscat via Abu Dhabi.

Doha will be served with 7x 787-9 and Muscat with 5x 777.

I assume these are from LHR?
Where are these slots coming from?
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RE: British Airways To Fly Direct To DOH & MCT

Thu May 12, 2016 2:03 pm

Quoting lesfalls (Reply 1):
i thought DOH had barely any O&D and was just primarly connections?

BA and QR being in OneWorld might have played a part in this?
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RE: British Airways To Fly Direct To DOH & MCT

Thu May 12, 2016 2:39 pm

Quoting aa1818 (Reply 5):
Where are these slots coming from

Since the takeover of BD I think it is given wisdom that BA has plenty of slots to play with - just not the long haul aircraft to maximise the benefit of those slots.

I guess as the 789s and the last of the 380s arrive [and the curtailment of flights to Africa in particular helps offset the retirement of the remaining 767s], there might be a bit more flexibility in the long haul fleet which allows the routes to become non stop.

Also given the link to QR it isn't too surprising to me at least that DOH gets a direct service.
 
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RE: British Airways To Fly Direct To DOH & MCT

Thu May 12, 2016 3:13 pm

Quoting FSDan (Reply 4):
Will the existing nonstops to BAH and AUH be downgauged?

Abu Dhabi will remain daily 787-9
Bahrain will remain daily 777-200

Quoting aa1818 (Reply 5):
I assume these are from LHR?

Yes, both from Terminal 5.
 
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RE: British Airways To Fly Direct To DOH & MCT

Thu May 12, 2016 3:49 pm

About time too

With Oman Air 2x daily (or is it x 3?) and QR x 7 daily, BAs tag on flights never really stood a chance of gaining
traction.

Plenty of expats in Oman & Qatar to use them, plus vacationers more for Oman than Qatar


[quote=B742,reply=0]sad to see the intra-Gulf routes gone.

Remember doing a AUH/MCT on BA, in first, a few years back total of 38mins flying time, got a glass of champagne & the
travel pack, which was worth having
 
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RE: British Airways To Fly Direct To DOH & MCT

Thu May 12, 2016 3:53 pm

Quoting lesfalls (Reply 1):
i thought DOH had barely any O&D and was just primarly connections?

The small amount of O&D that exists gears very, very heavily towards LHR so BA can get point-to-point traffic. Also BA and QR have a very close relationship so this can give some feed.
 
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RE: British Airways To Fly Direct To DOH & MCT

Thu May 12, 2016 4:35 pm

Quoting lesfalls (Reply 1):

i thought DOH had barely any O&D and was just primarly connections?

The O&D is there to combine with the connection opportunities at the QR hub.
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RE: British Airways To Fly Direct To DOH & MCT

Thu May 12, 2016 7:11 pm

Presumably, this results in better aircraft utilisation; I'm assuming the BAH and AUH return flights will be retimed. Have the schedules been posted/loaded?

With up to 3 flights per day, it's not beyond the realms of possibility that BA could send an A380 to DXB, especially during the winter.
 
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Thu May 12, 2016 7:17 pm

Quoting TedToToe (Reply 12):
With up to 3 flights per day, it's not beyond the realms of possibility that BA could send an A380 to DXB, especially during the winter.

The (UK) winter ( ie Jan/Feb) is generally the quieter travel months to Dubai from LHR... Strange as it may seem!
 
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RE: British Airways To Fly Direct To DOH & MCT

Thu May 12, 2016 8:05 pm

Quoting TedToToe (Reply 12):
Presumably, this results in better aircraft utilisation; I'm assuming the BAH and AUH return flights will be retimed. Have the schedules been posted/loaded?

Here's the schedule:

http://mediacentre.britishairways.co...essrelease/details/86/2016-72/6299

BA flights to Doha now arrive early in the morning which should mean more scope for onward codeshares with QR. The current late evening arrival doesn't allow for much by way of onward connections without staying in Doha overnight.
 
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RE: British Airways To Fly Direct To DOH & MCT

Thu May 12, 2016 8:21 pm

I never understood the DOH via BAH thing, with QR flying multiple daily to LHR.

Maybe Iberia or even Aer Lingus could fly to DOH? I find really surprising Qatar does not serve DUB.
 
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RE: British Airways To Fly Direct To DOH & MCT

Thu May 12, 2016 9:39 pm

Quoting aa1818 (Reply 5):
I assume these are from LHR?
Where are these slots coming from?

BA has plenty of slots to play with; and they know they will have even more once EI is fully on-board, and BA/EI can consolidate their operations from LHR to DUB & BHD.

Slots are not so much of a problem for BA; they have more of a problem with suitable long-haul aircraft to service those slots.

I'm expecting them to expand their long-haul fleet with recent decent second hand aircraft soon.
 
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RE: British Airways To Fly Direct To DOH & MCT

Thu May 12, 2016 9:50 pm

Quoting LHRFlyer (Reply 14):
The current late evening arrival doesn't allow for much by way of onward connections without staying in Doha overnight.

Don't a lot of South Asia flights leave around midnight/1/2/3 AM?
 
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RE: British Airways To Fly Direct To DOH & MCT

Thu May 12, 2016 11:43 pm

Is MCT opening their new terminal around Oct this year? That may have something to do with the timing.....
 
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RE: British Airways To Fly Direct To DOH & MCT

Fri May 13, 2016 12:22 am

Quoting aa1818 (Reply 5):
Where are these slots coming from?

Little Red (VS).

At the start of Summer Season 2015 BA had 4,921 weekly LHR slots.

With the (temporary?) return of the Little Red remedy slots BA had 5,063 LHR slots at the start of Summer Season 2016.

To put this increase of 142 weekly slots into some form of context, note that IB currently operates a total of 140 LHR weekly slots while DL has 152 and AC and KL both have 154.

So it seems the challenge for BA has been finding the equipment and routes to use (and not to loose) these numerous additional slots.

In equipment terms they have leased two Jet Time 737 7s for the whole of the current Summer Season.

In route terms recently launched services from LHR are:

1. A twice weekly seasonal service to Biarritz launched on 1 May

2. A twice weekly seasonal service to Chenai launched on 30 April

3. A twice weekly seasonal service to Kalamata launched on 30 April

4. A daily service to Inverness launched on 3 May

5. A four-times weekly seasonal service to Mahon launched on 29 April

6. A twice weekly seasonal service to Palermo launched on 30 April

Any of the new seasonal slots could be those used for the increased flights to the Gulf Region planned for next winter after the delivery of new 787s
 
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RE: British Airways To Fly Direct To DOH & MCT

Fri May 13, 2016 9:30 am

Best news so far!

Since 57 years, BA operated this route; first it was via BAH and BEY, then it was just via BAH. Who knows 57 years later, this route would go nonstop!

The rates BA offers would certainly give QR a run for its money!

I have always questioned why BA doesn't fly to DOH nonstop.

Why Not Nonstop LHR-DOH On British Airways? (by QatarA340 Mar 26 2013 in Civil Aviation)

Quoting LHRFlyer (Reply 14):
BA flights to Doha now arrive early in the morning which should mean more scope for onward codeshares with QR. The current late evening arrival doesn't allow for much by way of onward connections without staying in Doha overnight.

Right now, BA flights arrive to Doha at night. The new nonstop flights would make BA arrive to DOH in the morning, making connections all over the world, specially in Asia.

BA's flight to LHR would make excellent connections to JFK, YUL, YYZ, LAX, IAD, and other destinations.

Quoting B742 (Thread starter):
Doha will be served with 7x 787-9 and Muscat with 5x 777.

Right now, the DOH flights are with 772, maybe that will change later to 787-9?
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RE: British Airways To Fly Direct To DOH & MCT

Fri May 13, 2016 9:53 am

The question is whether QR will put their code on the BA flight. this makes a lot of sense since it gives QR an extra LHR flight to sell, which will help it put bums on seats into DOH from East Africa and Sub continent.
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RE: British Airways To Fly Direct To DOH & MCT

Fri May 13, 2016 1:07 pm

Everyone is talking about codeshares, but as far as I know there are limited codeshares available. Specifically, only routes BA doesn't serve in Africa and India.
 
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RE: British Airways To Fly Direct To DOH & MCT

Fri May 13, 2016 2:03 pm

Quoting VV701 (Reply 19):
2. A twice weekly seasonal service to Chenai launched on 30 April

BA has been flying to chennai for more than 25 years. For a long time it used to be 5 weekly but the last 3 years it has been daily on a 787.
 
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RE: British Airways To Fly Direct To DOH & MCT

Fri May 13, 2016 2:29 pm

Quoting colts001 (Reply 23):
BA has been flying to chennai for more than 25 years. For a long time it used to be 5 weekly but the last 3 years it has been daily on a 787.

I believe there was a typo in VV701's post. BA now serves Chania (CHQ) on the island of Crete from LHR seasonally.
 
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RE: British Airways To Fly Direct To DOH & MCT

Fri May 13, 2016 10:57 pm

Quoting colts001 (Reply 23):
Quoting VV701 (Reply 19):2. A twice weekly seasonal service to Chenai launched on 30 April
BA has been flying to chennai for more than 25 years. For a long time it used to be 5 weekly but the last 3 years it has been daily on a 787.

I think 'VV701' was referring to Chania Airport on the Greek island of Crete (CHQ)......
 
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RE: British Airways To Fly Direct To DOH & MCT

Fri May 13, 2016 11:16 pm

Shame to see the old AUH-MCT flight going. When I worked in Dubai I did that twice as a visa run. At the time, doing the flight in First was the absolutely cheapest way to get a shed-load of tier points.
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RE: British Airways To Fly Direct To DOH & MCT

Sat May 14, 2016 3:14 pm

Quoting TheReckoner (Reply 22):
as far as I know there are limited codeshares available. Specifically, only routes BA doesn't serve in Africa and India.

QR fly to almost 40 Asia Pacific destinations not currently served by BA. They range from Adelaide to Yangon. Some, perhaps many but probably not all could be served with a BA code share fight.

The opportunities in Africa are more limited both numerically and because some possible code share flights would require significant back-tracking on journeys originating from London. However current QR African destinations include Addis Ababa, Dar es Salaam and Entebbe. These three destinations were all served by BA from London until relatively recently. However BA direct services to all three were suspended relatively recently.

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