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Quoting tortugamon (Reply 2): DL just dropped their sponsorship of the theater where the performance is being held (FOX) and stated their motivation/timing for doing so. |
Quoting enilria (Thread starter): Interesting that ATL is where all these issues seem to be flaring up, when such things didn't happen in PHL, for example. |
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Quoting reffado (Reply 6): Because God forbid DL actually, you know, has to compete on pricing. Or product. Or :gasp: both |
Quoting seabosdca (Reply 4): Every management team has its blind spots, and Delta's management's blind spot is just how bad this petty whining about the ME3 makes them look. |
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Quoting slcdeltarumd11 (Reply 1): she does this for the $$$$$$ i doubt she cares about politics of the country this airlines is in, as long as their check clears |
Quoting DL_Mech (Reply 10): Not her first controversial performance: |
Quoting BestWestern (Reply 8): I'd expect these sort of comments from my kids when they were much younger, not from a senior manager at DL. |
Quoting slcdeltarumd11 (Reply 1): she does this for the $$$$$$ i doubt she cares about politics of the country this airlines is in, as long as their check clears |
Quoting tortugamon (Reply 2): DL just dropped their sponsorship of the theater where the performance is being held (FOX) and stated their motivation/timing for doing so. A 20+ year relationship. Seems petty. |
Quoting tortugamon (Reply 2): DL just dropped their sponsorship of the theater where the performance is being held (FOX) and stated their motivation/timing for doing so. A 20+ year relationship. Seems petty. |
Quoting tortugamon (Reply 7): “We were disappointed that we didn’t get a phone call, because I think a phone call would have probably prevented the whole thing.” |
Quoting tortugamon (Reply 7): So not only is it kinda petty to not sponsor a longstanding partner over this but to do so over the lack of a phone call. That doesn't make it sound better guys. |
Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 13): Whinging that QR are hosting an event at a private venue strikes me as very petty, and cancelling a long standing sponsorship of said venue strikes me as very vindicative. |
Quoting tortugamon (Reply 7): I hear you but I actually think the DL product increasingly rivals the ME3. And they are 2-3 times as profitable as the ME3 combined. |
Quoting Falcons023 (Reply 21): WOW! This is very surprising. How can Delta get so low and end a 20 year relationship effect because of some petty feud with Qatar? Lot of baby boomers and corporate companies support Fox theater...now they know what Delta is and its true colors. |
Quoting nikeherc (Reply 20): Remember this is the home of DL and without DL, ATL would be a fairly small airport in the South. |
Quoting WaywardMemphian (Reply 22): Atlanta is the largest city in the South |
Quoting WaywardMemphian (Reply 22): So, your statement makes me giggle. |
Quoting Falcons023 (Reply 21): How can Delta get so low and end a 20+ year relationship effect because of some petty feud with Qatar? |
Quoting nikeherc (Reply 25): Giggle if you will, but this forum is full of folks telling us that ATL has not so much O&D, and is mostly connections. So maybe it would be bigger than JAX or MSY, but it wouldn't be what it is today. |
Quoting TVNWZ (Reply 23): If I were QF I would sponsor the FOX. Put up big signs. Take out ads. Remind everyone they stepped in when DL pulled out. |
Quoting nikeherc (Reply 25): Let me get this straight, DL has sponsored the Fox for more than 20 years and shouldn't get upset when the Fox throws a party for another airline? Remember that sponsoring the Fox means giving them money. Seems to me like the Fox was the one taking the pieces of silver here. |
Quoting nikeherc (Reply 25): Giggle if you will, but this forum is full of folks telling us that ATL has not so much O&D, and is mostly connections. So maybe it would be bigger than JAX or MSY, but it wouldn't be what it is today. |
Quoting nikeherc (Reply 25): Giggle if you will, but this forum is full of folks telling us that ATL has not so much O&D, and is mostly connections. So maybe it would be bigger than JAX or MSY, but it wouldn't be what it is today. |
Quoting BC77008 (Reply 24): I think a few cities in Texas and perhaps at least one in far south Florida would disagree with this. |
Quoting enilria (Reply 19): I don't think I've ever seen anything like this in terms of an airline coming into somebody else's hub. They had better be careful, because as the election has pointed out....when you tell people not to do something, they do it out. It's 1 flight per day. What's the most they could ever have in ATL? 2. Big deal... |
Quoting nikeherc (Reply 25): Giggle if you will, but this forum is full of folks telling us that ATL has not so much O&D, and is mostly connections. |
Quoting nikeherc (Reply 25): when the Fox throws a party for another airline? |
Quoting nikeherc (Reply 20): Remember this is the home of DL and without DL, ATL would be a fairly small airport in the South. |
Quoting nikeherc (Reply 30): Quoting enilria (Reply 29): You've heard of Eastern? Do you mean the new charter airline, the former airline that went broke in the last century? Eastern had a hub in Charlotte, too. |
Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 3): Delta? Petty? The hell you say! |
Quoting cloud4000 (Reply 32): Delta is not only being petty, but are hypocrites. If it's really about human rights and working conditions, then why is Saudia, a fellow SkyTeam member, given such a pass. I mean this is a country whose human rights record is probably worse than Qatar, and who treat their guest workers just as poorly. |
Quoting nikeherc (Reply 20): If GM were the official sponsor of the Fox and Fiat-Chrysler hired JLo to perform at an event at the Fox, would GM have the right to be miffed? Maybe so. Entertainers are usually big supporters of unions, so AFA's objections to QR sound reasonable. DL FAs are not unionized, so this would seem like a fairly broad front for objections to QR's practices. Remember this is the home of DL and without DL, ATL would be a fairly small airport in the South. |
Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 36): Now DL is upping their pettiness quotient, barring AS employees from marching in the SEA Pride Parade after buying exclusive rights to it. |
Quoting Yakflyer (Reply 33): It would seem to me the loyalty Delta has demonstrated to Fox was not reciprocated when Qatar approached Fox to use the venue. I doubt any business person in Atlanta would be oblivious to the contention between Delta an Qatar. So in this instance the managers at the Fox theater chose to accept a booking from an enemy of one of their most loyal sponsors. |
Quoting AA94 (Reply 39): Should Fox deny itself business because accepting that business might hurt Delta's feelings |
Quoting tortugamon (Reply 40): As it is FOX benefits like crazy from this; just think of the sympathy donations and other companies that will want to sponsor them to gain some positive PR. DL literally gains nothing. |
Quoting AA94 (Reply 39): The idea that a company's sponsorship of a certain entity guarantees it treatment that isn't contractually (or otherwise) obligated is dangerous. Should Fox deny itself business because accepting that business might hurt Delta's feelings? Should Delta now look over Fox's shoulder at every turn to ensure the theater only books events that align with Delta's own interests? |
Quoting tortugamon (Reply 40): DL literally gains nothing. |
Quoting AA94 (Reply 39): Maybe they should be basking in the glow of that reality instead of picking the pettiest of battles. |
Quoting slcdeltarumd11 (Reply 1): she does this for the $$$$$$ i doubt she cares about politics of the country this airlines is in, as long as their check clears |
Quoting tortugamon (Reply 40): Bloomberg and USAToday are all publishing articles on this. That is pretty mainstream stuff. QR is getting a ton of free publicity about this new route coupled with DL getting virtually nothing in return and aggravating others. |
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Quoting seabosdca (Reply 43): The most productive way to handle the Seattle pride parade would have been to sponsor it, ensure that no AS logos were on official parade publicity materials, show up with a large employee contingent and maybe a fun ramp toy or two, and then let the AS employee group march as usual. |
Quoting seabosdca (Reply 43): The most productive response to the QR event at the Fox would have been to have a private talk with the Fox management to put them on notice. I doubt it even occurred to the management that a non-exclusive sponsor would drop them over accepting a private paid engagement from the sponsor's competition. |