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RE: Irish 8/16: Celebrating 80 Years Of Aer Lingus!

Fri Jun 10, 2016 2:58 pm

Quoting stratocruiser (Reply 148):

The aircraft were planned to leave for some time, the 3 weakest routes have been cut whether they were loss making or marginally profitable they were it makes no difference. With Liverpool), Newquay and additional Bristol among a few other additions operating in winter something had to give.

It it was totally down to loss making routes then SEN base would be closed a long time ago........
 
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RE: Irish 8/16: Celebrating 80 Years Of Aer Lingus!

Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:49 pm

Quoting Cipango (Reply 149):
not sure about CFN?

CFN does indeed require a hotel stay each night.
Dún Na Ngall Abú!
 
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RE: Irish 8/16: Celebrating 80 Years Of Aer Lingus!

Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:57 pm

Would RE not invest in a few ATR 42-600s to replace the -300s? Clearly they favour having a subfleet of ~50 seaters. The '42s were meant to be gone years ago but they keep extending their shelf life.

The reputation for reliability of the RE ATR 42-300s is fairly well known...
 
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RE: Irish 8/16: Celebrating 80 Years Of Aer Lingus!

Fri Jun 10, 2016 10:43 pm

Air Canada Rouge started YVR from DUB today. It will be interesting to see how this route will do. As mentioned on here, advertising has been pretty much null.



[Edited 2016-06-10 16:23:28]
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RE: Irish 8/16: Celebrating 80 Years Of Aer Lingus!

Fri Jun 10, 2016 10:50 pm

Quoting JAmie2k9 (Reply 146):
Shouldn't be to much longer, A320 has been in maintenance in MAD for around a month now.

Aer Lingus latest A320 EI-FNJ i believe is about to land at DUB as i type as Shamrock 2597 Hex 4CA63B.
 
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RE: Irish 8/16: Celebrating 80 Years Of Aer Lingus!

Fri Jun 10, 2016 11:28 pm

Another good flight with SK DUB-OSL in their Plus cabin. Picked up a 90 mins delay due to the fog at DUB. Lots of delays which made the airport packed. I could see lots of rebooks being done and indeed had to get one myself. At first SHP were telling us we needed to call SK to rebook but a firm but polite reading of the rules to them resulted in them doing the job they are paid to do. There seem to be a lot of new hires for the Summer at SHP and maybe they only got a crash course in what is supposed to be done when it comes to IRROPS!

D Pier was mental people sitting all the way along on the floor and roasting hot. They could do with some portable AC units scattered down that pier for the times Summer makes an appearence in Ireland.

Still once onboard an enjoyable flight. Good crew and nice service. Quite a few connections mostly to Scandic routes.



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Also first time seeing WOW at DUB :


 
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RE: Irish 8/16: Celebrating 80 Years Of Aer Lingus!

Sat Jun 11, 2016 7:32 am

Quoting dstc47 (Reply 140):
More bad news on the GA front, a microlight aircraft went missing off the coast of Northern Ireland on Thursday. Routing from Derry to Scotland, efforts by Rescue 116 and lifeboats were suspended last night due to fog and are expected to resume today. Judging by how foggy it was in Howth yesterday for much of the time, followed by bright sun, it may be a difficult search.

The Coastguard said debris from the aircraft had been found by a yacht in the sea north of Glenarm, with no trace so far of the two persons onboard.
 
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RE: Irish 8/16: Celebrating 80 Years Of Aer Lingus!

Sat Jun 11, 2016 8:26 am

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 152):
Would RE not invest in a few ATR 42-600s to replace the -300s? Clearly they favour having a subfleet of ~50 seaters. The '42s were meant to be gone years ago but they keep extending their shelf life.

Are these aircraft owned by RE (or one of the associated holding companies), IIRC they are. In which case the economics work well because they are fully depreciated and no lease/mortgage pavements. I suspect the reason they have hung around so long is they are cheap to operate, but the economics for a brand new/fresh AT4 looks very different. I don't think the fuel costs for an aging 42 are all that different to a new 72-600.
 
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RE: Irish 8/16: Celebrating 80 Years Of Aer Lingus!

Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:17 pm

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 152):
Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 157):

I make off the business case isn't very strong as the operating costs are not massively lower than a 72-600. There is also never a guarantee they will win a PSO contract as well. Expect it's like A319 and A320 operating costs.
 
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Sat Jun 11, 2016 7:37 pm

Quoting JAmie2k9 (Reply 158):

I make off the business case isn't very strong as the operating costs are not massively lower than a 72-600. There is also never a guarantee they will win a PSO contract as well.

Fuel costs for the AT4 will be less, maintenance may be more than a new/young AT7, but ownership costs are likely to be far, far, less, if nothing. Thats what makes the sums different - I'd guess. A new ATR42-600 has no revenue advantage over the -300s, but massively increased ownership costs. There are examples elsewhere, DL taking MD-90s, Allegiant used A319s. Both are disadvantaged Vs the A320/73H from an operational point of view, but both are significantly cheaper.
 
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RE: Irish 8/16: Celebrating 80 Years Of Aer Lingus!

Sun Jun 12, 2016 4:06 pm

Today TOM started flights to the Caribbean using the 787's.

For 6 weeks there will be flights to Montego Bay on Sundays and Cancun on Mondays.

Let's hope this does well! The TOM 787's are a nice sight in DUB.
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RE: Irish 8/16: Celebrating 80 Years Of Aer Lingus!

Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:24 pm

I thought I saw a C-17 which had taken off from Dublin around 15.20 yesterday. Can anyone confirm?
 
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RE: Irish 8/16: Celebrating 80 Years Of Aer Lingus!

Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:06 pm

Quoting ei737ng (Reply 161):

Yes 04-4131 the Reach 248 in from Knock and onto Mindenhall. To do with the upcoming visit over VP Joe Biden
 
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Mon Jun 13, 2016 6:31 am

Quoting Cipango (Reply 160):

Indeed they are nice to fly on too  
 
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RE: Irish 8/16: Celebrating 80 Years Of Aer Lingus!

Mon Jun 13, 2016 4:48 pm

52 years ago today, Aer Lingus's first 707 (ironically referred to in some company marketing material as a Boeing 320!) landed at Dublin.

http://www.rte.ie/archives/2014/0613...-lingus-gets-its-first-boeing-707/

The aircraft was EI-AMW and the 707 was to remain in Aer Lingus service until 1986.

The 707 could carry up to 178 pax, operated by a flight crew of 4 (navigators were still required until the 747 heralded the arrival of INS).

Capt. Peter Little, who flew the delivery flight, later flew the delivery flight of the first 747, in 1971.
 
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RE: Irish 8/16: Celebrating 80 Years Of Aer Lingus!

Mon Jun 13, 2016 8:38 pm

Spotted this link on boards
www.twitter.com/damienmulley/status/742428148764151809

To me it's seems to soon for QR, could we finally get a Chinese service. Planned to be at the Shelbourne (make of that what you will!)

Hopefully it's a good one whatever it will be

[Edited 2016-06-13 14:04:40]
 
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RE: Irish 8/16: Celebrating 80 Years Of Aer Lingus!

Mon Jun 13, 2016 10:01 pm

Quoting JAmie2k9 (Reply 165):

If we're going with Chinese / Asian & swanky I'm saying CX or SQ. Could CX launch a tag on initially? I'm still not ruling out QR though. Why cancel at the last minute though???
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Re: Irish 8/16: Celebrating 80 Years Of Aer Lingus!

Tue Jun 14, 2016 7:50 pm

Welcome to the new look Anet/Irish Thread guys . :D
 
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Re: Irish 8/16: Celebrating 80 Years Of Aer Lingus!

Tue Jun 14, 2016 7:53 pm

Don't know what to say.
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Re: Irish 8/16: Celebrating 80 Years Of Aer Lingus!

Tue Jun 14, 2016 7:55 pm

I like the notification on top right. I got an alert that you just replied. Also the Avatar is a good thing but cant see where to quote text. Im sure its just a case of gettin used to it all.
 
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Re: Irish 8/16: Celebrating 80 Years Of Aer Lingus!

Tue Jun 14, 2016 8:00 pm

This is going to give me headaches. This site went from Etihad to China Eastern (livery).
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Re: Irish 8/16: Celebrating 80 Years Of Aer Lingus!

Tue Jun 14, 2016 8:18 pm

It's so bloody white! My eyes... everything is fine with it, but white? It's horribly bright :cry:
I do enjoy a spot of flying, especially when it's not in economy!
 
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Re: Irish 8/16: Celebrating 80 Years Of Aer Lingus!

Tue Jun 14, 2016 8:21 pm

Im seeing pink too :lol: ;)
 
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Re: Irish 8/16: Celebrating 80 Years Of Aer Lingus!

Tue Jun 14, 2016 8:59 pm

Not a fan at all of the new site, very bright :!:

Cobalt Air have put Dublin-Laranca on sale staring 9 July operating twice weekly. Some incredible fares on offer.
 
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Re: Irish 8/16: Celebrating 80 Years Of Aer Lingus!

Tue Jun 14, 2016 9:18 pm

A mate of mine booked the new DUB-LCA route. Similar to this. Pay by credit card rather than debit card is all I can say !!


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Re: Irish 8/16: Celebrating 80 Years Of Aer Lingus!

Wed Jun 15, 2016 7:38 am

What we did not need is this redesign. Confused with adverts everywhere, hard to track subjects.
 
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Re: Irish 8/16: Celebrating 80 Years Of Aer Lingus!

Wed Jun 15, 2016 9:39 am

I got to use the new LGW-BFS route . Have to say it was a pleasant experience. Crews a bit amateur but still pleasant and friendly. We had a delay of 1 hour 15 mins due to congestion at LGW. The BOB is still nothing to write home about and pricey. Got one of the new deliveries and as usual very nice and comfortable with loads of legroom.

Nice views coming into BFS but a bit depressing on arrival it is still looking run down and old. Had a quick look at the viewing gallery which is nice but not much to see other than EZY/FR etc...


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Re: Irish 8/16: Celebrating 80 Years Of Aer Lingus!

Wed Jun 15, 2016 11:33 am

Let's face it - the site needed a bit of a refresh. I've only seen the mobile version thus far. I must fire up the laptop and check out the desktop one before I pass comment.

Just been up at the airport - Air Canada Rouge now using the D pier for one flight (YYZ today). We're starting to see again certain flights using inappropriate gates and facilities due to capacity issues.

Come next summer, we'll be back to bussing all over the place. A new pier sorely needed - pier F to free capacity up at B, which in turn will free it up at Pier D. Realistically, Pier A should also now be turn down and replaced with a larger facility. DUB has to work on a world class basis now as a hub - if it stops being easy and convenient, people will go elsewhere.
 
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Re: Irish 8/16: Celebrating 80 Years Of Aer Lingus!

Wed Jun 15, 2016 11:44 am

shamrock604 wrote:
Just been up at the airport - Air Canada Rouge now using the D pier for one flight (YYZ today). We're starting to see again certain flights using inappropriate gates and facilities due to capacity issues.



Yes I noticed that last week and took a pic.


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Re: Irish 8/16: Celebrating 80 Years Of Aer Lingus!

Wed Jun 15, 2016 12:43 pm

LH moving the MUC flight to the morning has been an issue this summer and largely responsible for 300 issues.

Air Canada were down at D because of Vancouver departure is delayed and there has been other delays with LX/LH spending an extra 60 and 30 minutes on stand. Had they departed on time at 11.05 and 11.15 the late incoming YYZ which arrived at 11.20 could of had a stand at 300 gates. The facilities at D are far better than what is offered at some of the big European airports so I don't see people been to annoyed.

A more impotent issue is EIR flights using 200 gates again, currently 1 or 2 now using them in the morning however they have also started to board via 400 gates again.
 
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Re: Irish 8/16: Celebrating 80 Years Of Aer Lingus!

Wed Jun 15, 2016 1:02 pm

Ryanair axes winter Paris-Shannon service
Move follows reductions in other services including Shannon-Manchester route
Ryanair plans to drop its Shannon-Paris Beauvais service next winter after cutting frequencies on other routes from the airport over the summer.

The airline operated a twice-weekly service between Shannon and Beauvais last winter but confirmed it did not intend to renew it this year.

Its move follows reductions in other services from there this summer. It cut flights on the Shannon-Manchester route to five a week this year from seven a week in 2016 and between the airport and Munich west in Germany to two from three a week.

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/tran ... -1.2684715
 
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Re: Irish 8/16: Celebrating 80 Years Of Aer Lingus!

Wed Jun 15, 2016 1:23 pm

JAmie2k9 wrote:
LH moving the MUC flight to the morning has been an issue this summer and largely responsible for 300 issues.

Air Canada were down at D because of Vancouver departure is delayed and there has been other delays with LX/LH spending an extra 60 and 30 minutes on stand. Had they departed on time at 11.05 and 11.15 the late incoming YYZ which arrived at 11.20 could of had a stand at 300 gates. The facilities at D are far better than what is offered at some of the big European airports so I don't see people been to annoyed.

A more impotent issue is EIR flights using 200 gates again, currently 1 or 2 now using them in the morning however they have also started to board via 400 gates again.


Personally don't feel long haul should be down at D, even though the facilities are good generally, I agree. What I'm concerned about is slapstick solutions like bussing, the downstairs gates in Pier D, and basically all of Pier A. T2 and Pier D were a new departure in facilities and planning at DUB, and feels like we're going backwards a bit now in terms of providing decent, long term solutions to gate and stand capacity.
 
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Re: Irish 8/16: Celebrating 80 Years Of Aer Lingus!

Wed Jun 15, 2016 1:50 pm

The only thing I would say about AC Rouge is that it is their budget/leisure arm so maybe not a big deal to be down there. SK are down in D too and whilst not longhaul who decides which Star carrier should be at the B gates etc...
 
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Re: Irish 8/16: Celebrating 80 Years Of Aer Lingus!

Wed Jun 15, 2016 2:06 pm

shamrock604 wrote:
JAmie2k9 wrote:
LH moving the MUC flight to the morning has been an issue this summer and largely responsible for 300 issues.

Air Canada were down at D because of Vancouver departure is delayed and there has been other delays with LX/LH spending an extra 60 and 30 minutes on stand. Had they departed on time at 11.05 and 11.15 the late incoming YYZ which arrived at 11.20 could of had a stand at 300 gates. The facilities at D are far better than what is offered at some of the big European airports so I don't see people been to annoyed.

A more impotent issue is EIR flights using 200 gates again, currently 1 or 2 now using them in the morning however they have also started to board via 400 gates again.


Personally don't feel long haul should be down at D, even though the facilities are good generally, I agree. What I'm concerned about is slapstick solutions like bussing, the downstairs gates in Pier D, and basically all of Pier A. T2 and Pier D were a new departure in facilities and planning at DUB, and feels like we're going backwards a bit now in terms of providing decent, long term solutions to gate and stand capacity.


I agree in principal about long haul however I also feel it's not time for the daa to go flash the cash when these airlines are recently happy with the situation whether passengers like it or not. Big boys like EK/BA bus long haul passengers which is the point I am making.

Extra T2 stands will be available soon which should help aircraft parking and possible boarding at peak hours.

Following is a breakdown of where operators operate at T1:
Aegean Airlines - TBC - Expect 300
Air Canada Rouge - 300 - 100 if full
Aer Europa - 300
Air France/Cityjet - 200
Air Moldova - 300
Air Transit - 300 - 100 if full
Arkia - 300
ASL France - 300
ASL Ireland - 300 - 100 or 200 for first daily departure
Blue Air - 300
BA - 200 **
BA Cityflyer - 300 - 200 at peak hours
Bulgaria Air - 300
Cobalt Air - TBC
Ethiopian - 300
Finnair - 300
Flybe - 200
Germanwings/Eurowings - 100 **
Iberia Express - 300 - 100 for 11 am flight because LH MUC moved to same time
Lufthansa - 300
Luxair - 100 ***
Mistral Air - 300
Norwegian - 100 **
S7 - 300
SAS - 100 **
Travel Service - 300
Swiss - 300 - 100 odd time for GVA
Thomson - 300 - 100 or 200 for first daily departure
Transavia France - 100
Turkish - 300
Vueling - 300
WestJet - 300
WOW - 100

** - These carriers were at 300 gates before and taking SAS, DY most of those flights are off peak so they are not been forced to use 100. BA LHR flights is a strange one as it was just the 2 or 8 down at 200 but now all of them but I suspect that's BA choice.

*** - Previously at 200 and 300 gates and again off peak services so by choice using 100 gates.
 
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Re: Irish 8/16: Celebrating 80 Years Of Aer Lingus!

Wed Jun 15, 2016 2:20 pm

Winter schedule is sparse for Shannon, maybe Ryanair will introduce more U.K routes but they eem to be reducing service rather than expanding.
 
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Re: Irish 8/16: Celebrating 80 Years Of Aer Lingus!

Wed Jun 15, 2016 2:35 pm

snnus wrote:
Winter schedule is sparse for Shannon, maybe Ryanair will introduce more U.K routes but they eem to be reducing service rather than expanding.


Indeed and unlike DUB they do not have a large enough Winter tourist traffic.
 
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Re: Irish 8/16: Celebrating 80 Years Of Aer Lingus!

Wed Jun 15, 2016 2:41 pm

Is it me, or is the font size tiny in these responses???
 
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Re: Irish 8/16: Celebrating 80 Years Of Aer Lingus!

Wed Jun 15, 2016 2:49 pm

al2637 wrote:
Is it me, or is the font size tiny in these responses???


Yes it's really small. Hope they do something about it soon.
 
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Wed Jun 15, 2016 2:59 pm

http://www.cobalt.aero/

Cobalt Air launching twice weekly LCA-DUB with fares around €100 return.
 
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Re: Irish 8/16: Celebrating 80 Years Of Aer Lingus!

Wed Jun 15, 2016 3:18 pm

al2637 wrote:
Is it me, or is the font size tiny in these responses???


Not sure what system you use but I have managed to get it back to normal text size using the zoom feature in ''View''
 
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Re: Irish 8/16: Celebrating 80 Years Of Aer Lingus!

Wed Jun 15, 2016 3:23 pm

OA260 wrote:
al2637 wrote:
Is it me, or is the font size tiny in these responses???


Not sure what system you use but I have managed to get it back to normal text size using the zoom feature in ''View''



Yea, I can do that, but then other posts look too big. The issue is a bug, all the posts on page 4 after a certain point are nested under a font-size=-4 tag. Hopefully they resolve it,
 
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Re: Irish 8/16: Celebrating 80 Years Of Aer Lingus!

Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:14 pm

I noticed EI are now using IAG branded sickbags. Wonder if its the start of a slippery slope towards losing the brand like one member is obsessed with? :D :twisted:
 
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Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:24 pm

EIDL wrote:
I noticed EI are now using IAG branded sickbags. Wonder if its the start of a slippery slope towards losing the brand like one member is obsessed with? :D :twisted:


Indeed. Having the EI logo on them made you bring up more ! This is clearly another IAG idea to cut costs so you dont fill the bags as much :lol: :lol:
 
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Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:38 pm

I've set up a new thread ... here's the link:

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