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Re: Airbus A350 Production And Delivery Thread - Part 17

Fri Nov 17, 2017 9:30 pm

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When will Iberia get their first A350? On wikipedia it says 2018 on Iberia`s page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iberia_(airline) and 2019 on the french page of the list of Airbus A350 XWB orders and deliveries https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des ... s_A350_XWB. What now? 2018 or 2019? Id like to know because I would like to fly the wonderful A340-600 again in late June 2018 to Sao Paulo. I know it can also be the A330 but at least I want to be sure that its not going to be the A350. Does someone has more information about Iberia´s A350 delivery? :worried:


Just 2 pages ago:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=607139&p=19947429&p19947429#p19947429

But there is obviously no information about which routes it will serve.

PS: I have flown in both 3 airplanes, and I prefer the A350 by far.
PS2: This is a production thread, please open a new one if you want to discuss your preferences :)
 
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Re: Airbus A350 Production And Delivery Thread - Part 17

Fri Nov 17, 2017 11:04 pm

Jayafe wrote:
accuman wrote:
When will Iberia get their first A350? On wikipedia it says 2018 on Iberia`s page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iberia_(airline) and 2019 on the french page of the list of Airbus A350 XWB orders and deliveries https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des ... s_A350_XWB. What now? 2018 or 2019? Id like to know because I would like to fly the wonderful A340-600 again in late June 2018 to Sao Paulo. I know it can also be the A330 but at least I want to be sure that its not going to be the A350. Does someone has more information about Iberia´s A350 delivery? :worried:


Just 2 pages ago:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=607139&p=19947429&p19947429#p19947429

But there is obviously no information about which routes it will serve.

PS: I have flown in both 3 airplanes, and I prefer the A350 by far.
PS2: This is a production thread, please open a new one if you want to discuss your preferences :)


"I have flown in both 3 planes"........I love that :lol:
 
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Fri Nov 17, 2017 11:41 pm

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"I have flown in both 3 planes"........I love that :lol:


You love flying, laughing, or thinking you are right about the usage of "both 3", which is widely used? Or maybe the tense is funny? :lol:
 
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Fri Nov 17, 2017 11:51 pm

Jayafe wrote:
Tedd wrote:
"I have flown in both 3 planes"........I love that :lol:


You love flying, laughing, or thinking you are right about the usage of "both 3", which is widely used? Or maybe the tense is funny? :lol:


You must mean ALL 3 planes. Both = 2. So "Both 3" does not make sense. ;)
 
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Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:47 am

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Sorry, can`t supply you with the info you want, but why wouldn`t you want to fly the A350? I`d go out
of my way to fly this new generation of aircraft ( B787 included ) to experience better levels of comfort,
air quality, & quietness. I`d love to know your worries!


I dont like for example the seat configuration in the A350. Im a person who always want to sit at the window but not with the 3-3-3 seat configuration. Its like Im flying in a Boeing 777 and not Airbus. With the 2-4-2 configuration you can get out much better. The A350 is just not a real Airbus. Its like they copied from Boeing. The seat configuration, the landing gear, the tail etc. Like the B787 the A350 is nothing special for me. Its just a another twin engine aircraft which can only boast with its modernity and its big engines.
The A340-600 on the other hand is the most beautiful and most powerful airliner (excluding the A380) ever built by Airbus. Its such a wonderful aircraft I enjoyed every minute on my 12 hour flight to Sao Paulo, Brazil last year. The air quality and quietness is already good enough for me. I think its just not worth it to give up all the GOOD things the A340-600 offers for just a few better things on the A350.
 
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Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:53 am

Jayafe wrote:


Sorry I just searched this thread with the name "Iberia" and not "IB".
 
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Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:54 am

Jayafe wrote:
Tedd wrote:
"I have flown in both 3 planes"........I love that :lol:


You love flying, laughing, or thinking you are right about the usage of "both 3", which is widely used? Or maybe the tense is funny? :lol:


Just as Slug71 points out.
Don`t take it as a criticism, not meant to be, just found it funny......thanks for that!
 
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Sat Nov 18, 2017 2:08 am

jean06 wrote:
February Next year
Delivery in May


How many A350s do you think will Iberia have in late June?
 
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Sat Nov 18, 2017 4:23 am

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How many A350s do you think will Iberia have in late June?

One. Two by the end of summer.
 
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Sat Nov 18, 2017 7:33 am

MSN 132 (QR#21) initial engine run this morning.
 
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Sat Nov 18, 2017 8:43 am

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PW100 wrote:
keesje wrote:
Maybe Boeing doesn't fully realize / admit yet, but they need a bigger wing / more power on the 787 for the Asian market.

If they don't, A350 will dominate 300-370 seats to/from Asia for the next decade.


Not sure how concerned Boeing is going to be . . .
Pumping out 14 787's per month, with 777X just around the corner doesn't seem to be a bad position to be in.


Yeah, 14 787 plus 3.5 777 a month, against 13 A350 and 6 A330 a month, Boeing will simply trounce Airbus. :white: :biggrin:

I would have thought that 14 787s a month and however many 777s the line settles on once production settles in is rather respectable, just like 13 A350s and 6 A330s a month. After all, the goal is to sell all the aircraft your production line can produce, not win some sort of silly pissing contest by "trouncing" the competition in production rates. That sort of A vs B nonsense is the preserve of hyperbolic media commentators and a subset of a.net users who see everything as some sort of gladiatorial battle.

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Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:17 pm

MSN 146 (LH#6) was delivered today #LH9884. Delivery #61 this year.
 
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Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:26 pm

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
One. Two by the end of summer.

Thanks!
 
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Re: Airbus A350 Production And Delivery Thread - Part 17

Sat Nov 18, 2017 1:26 pm

accuman wrote:
Tedd wrote:
Sorry, can`t supply you with the info you want, but why wouldn`t you want to fly the A350? I`d go out
of my way to fly this new generation of aircraft ( B787 included ) to experience better levels of comfort,
air quality, & quietness. I`d love to know your worries!


I dont like for example the seat configuration in the A350. Im a person who always want to sit at the window but not with the 3-3-3 seat configuration. Its like Im flying in a Boeing 777 and not Airbus. With the 2-4-2 configuration you can get out much better. The A350 is just not a real Airbus. Its like they copied from Boeing. The seat configuration, the landing gear, the tail etc. Like the B787 the A350 is nothing special for me. Its just a another twin engine aircraft which can only boast with its modernity and its big engines.
The A340-600 on the other hand is the most beautiful and most powerful airliner (excluding the A380) ever built by Airbus. Its such a wonderful aircraft I enjoyed every minute on my 12 hour flight to Sao Paulo, Brazil last year. The air quality and quietness is already good enough for me. I think its just not worth it to give up all the GOOD things the A340-600 offers for just a few better things on the A350.


Thanks for that. I can understand the seating arrangement preference. FWIW, I`d still reserve judgement on the A350,
& the B787. My brother who flies quite a bit, flew on an Air Canada B787 in economy, so I think that would have been
nine abreast, & he didn`t stop raving about how good he thought the plane was in all respects, from seat comfort, airiness
of the cabin & so on. I think the A350 is wider, so might offer even more comfort. It could be the A350 could turn out to be
the new A340-600 for you!
 
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Re: Airbus A350 Production And Delivery Thread - Part 17

Sun Nov 19, 2017 8:45 am

One would thought the -1000 would be days away from certification seeing as it's first flight was around a year ago?
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Sun Nov 19, 2017 8:56 am

^^^^
Look up thread... November 21st
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Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:06 am

Next delivery - MSN153 for Hong Kong Airlines HX #2 (ex. F-WZNU) is visible with final registration: B-LGB
https://www.flightradar24.com/BLGB/
 
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Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:00 am

Should be flying home today.

Airbus A350 -941 153 B-LGB Hong Kong Airlines delivery 20nov17 TLS-HKG ex F-WZNU
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Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:52 pm

MSN 157 MK #2 second CAF today.

https://fr24.com/AIB04FQ/f96d288
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Re: Airbus A350 Production And Delivery Thread - Part 17

Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:40 pm

In case someone is interested in the MTOW of Thai Airways' A350 fleet:

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Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:13 pm

MSN71 -1000 XL did high speed RTO today ....was that the MTOW high energy braking test finalising Certification? Possibly not as did not stop on actual runway! Anyway rumoured tomorrow is Certification day!
 
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Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:29 am

MSN 170 (SQ#20) rolled out to the flightline this morning.
 
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Re: Airbus A350 Production And Delivery Thread - Part 17

Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:46 am

As expected, the A350-1000 has been certified.

See https://www.easa.europa.eu/system/files ... 1%2021.pdf
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Re: Airbus A350 Production And Delivery Thread - Part 17

Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:05 am

Good news for the programme. I don't see them getting a bird to QATAR before the end of the year though.
 
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Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:50 am

MSN 88 should roll out before the end of the week. Let's see how quickly QR will accept their first A350-1000.
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Re: Airbus A350 Production And Delivery Thread - Part 17

Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:59 am

Reading approval it appears that ETOPS awaited for new engine as is CAT3 for all weather. Probably at least 180 needed and CAT2 for EIS
 
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Re: Airbus A350 Production And Delivery Thread - Part 17

Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:12 am

Looking at the revision history - ETOPS for the 900 came about 2 weeks after initial certification.
 
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Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:33 pm

MSN 160 DL #4 has advanced to the delivery centre.
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Re: Airbus A350 Production And Delivery Thread - Part 17

Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:57 pm

First visual proof of MSN 98 JD #1:

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Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:00 am

MSN 160 DL #4 is getting ready for its first CAF: https://fr24.com/AIB03FZ/f9b9611
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Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:11 am

MSN 168 (HX #3) has moved to the delivery centre.
 
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Wed Nov 22, 2017 12:59 pm

After a long period of silence, MSN 78 QR is getting ready for its 5th flight.

https://fr24.com/AIB05NG/f9bf5a9
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Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:00 pm

And MSN 98 JD #1 has moved to the engine test area.

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Re: Airbus A350 Production And Delivery Thread - Part 17

Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:52 pm

MSN 179 CI #11 emerged from cabin/engine fit and should move to paint.

This one may be delivered in late December.

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Wed Nov 22, 2017 5:27 pm

MSN 159 MH #1 is online at the delivery centre.
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Wed Nov 22, 2017 5:35 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
MSN 179 CI #11 emerged from cabin/engine fit and should move to paint.

This one may be delivered in late December.

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do you think it will be the last A350 delivered this year ?
 
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Wed Nov 22, 2017 6:23 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
MSN 179 CI #11 emerged from cabin/engine fit and should move to paint.

This one may be delivered in late December.

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Msn179 22/11/2017 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr


Who does that tail in front belong to?

EDIT: Never mind, I found out it is Lion. Did not recognize that tail!
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Re: Airbus A350 Production And Delivery Thread - Part 17

Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:53 pm

WALmsp wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
MSN 179 CI #11 emerged from cabin/engine fit and should move to paint.

This one may be delivered in late December.

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Msn179 22/11/2017 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr


Who does that tail in front belong to?

EDIT: Never mind, I found out it is Lion. Did not recognize that tail!


That tail is from the Batik livery. Lion have dropped the name but kept the tail style.

Geoff
 
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Thu Nov 23, 2017 5:44 am

MSN 175 DL #6 has rolled out to the flight line.
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Thu Nov 23, 2017 9:13 am

MSN 162 CI #10 has moved to the delivery centre.
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Thu Nov 23, 2017 9:28 am

MSN 159 MH #1 first CAF today: https://fr24.com/AIB03FG/f9e6a7a
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Thu Nov 23, 2017 9:49 am

MSN 176 OZ #4 has rolled out to the flight line.
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Thu Nov 23, 2017 9:52 am

when will LATAM receive their first A35K ?
 
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Re: Airbus A350 Production And Delivery Thread - Part 17

Thu Nov 23, 2017 9:57 am

Man that flighline is getting busy. The end of year push is in full swing.
 
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Re: Airbus A350 Production And Delivery Thread - Part 17

Thu Nov 23, 2017 10:15 am

I wonder if they could actually push to 100 deliveries this year instead of the proposed 80-90. They only need 38 more aircraft or am I just thinking a bit to optimistically ;)
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Thu Nov 23, 2017 10:18 am

I don't think so - but I am feeling that 80 or very near is achievable.
 
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Thu Nov 23, 2017 11:30 am

80 would be easy - they made 17 last two months. They need 18 at this moment, and there are 7 on flightline (waiting for first flight), 5 flying, and 3 at CAF. Assuming these will be delivered, only 2 more to reach 80. I think it would go up to 84 maybe, since 6 more are at cabin/paint phase, and first flight to delivery has been lately going around 25 days.
However, this is only a guess still. We'll see :)

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Thu Nov 23, 2017 11:50 am

6 at CAF MSN 90, 157,159,160, 162 and 168
 
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Re: Airbus A350 Production And Delivery Thread - Part 17

Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:37 pm

LPSHobby wrote:
when will LATAM receive their first A35K ?


Worth checking here regularly

http://www.a350-production.com/production-list

Nothing yet scheduled for LATAM -1000s.

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Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:49 pm

StTim wrote:
I don't think so - but I am feeling that 80 or very near is achievable.


The major doubt concerns the 4 frames for QR who are always unpredictable and the 5 frames for ‘mainland’ Chinese airlines which are dependent on CAAC certification.

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