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Quoting B747forever (Reply 83): am comparing UA to AA/DL and just looking at the layout, 1-2-1 must be more spacious than trying to fit 4 more seat in that same space. |
Quoting ldvaviation (Reply 95): definitely much better than United's new seat. |
Quoting slider (Reply 20): Polaris. The north star. Ironic in a sense that UA has found a direction, especially given the naysayers around here for whom UA can do no good. This is fantastic. |
Quoting commavia (Reply 23): Sommelier-curated |
Quoting commavia (Reply 23): spa-like" |
Quoting commavia (Reply 23): "gel-cooled pillow |
Quoting codc10 (Reply 13): Saks Fifth Avenue |
Quoting BestWestern (Reply 103): Polaris = nuclear weapons program |
Quoting jpetekyxmd80 (Reply 100): Just about the only true 1-2-1 business class product is on SQ. The ones we are talking about be it staggered, or angled herringbone, the rows are really quite intermingled. The key is aisle access. |
Quoting B747forever (Reply 83): I am comparing UA to AA/DL and just looking at the layout, 1-2-1 must be more spacious than trying to fit 4 more seat in that same space. |
Quoting sshank (Reply 108): sit eems completely unnecessary and pointless. |
Quoting jpetekyxmd80 (Reply 106): |
Quoting FriscoHeavy (Reply 24): Great product and lovely colors. It's mind boggling that so many people don't like it or are "underwhelmed". Get with the program. It's a very very nice update and will be very comfortable. Amazing -- someone always has something to complain about. |
Quoting BestWestern (Reply 103): Polaris = nuclear weapons program |
Quoting commavia (Reply 3): I'm not sure about the brand name "Polaris," though. |
Quoting Heavierthanair (Reply 8): More orders for the infamous Zodiac business class seats? Presumably Airbus are now looking for added parking space to store all those upcoming United A 350-1000's awaiting their business class seats |
Quoting Pellegrine (Reply 113): Then again, there's literally no motivation for the US3 to be cutting edge. A lot of Americans are cheap as all hell and appreciate no style. |
Quoting Pellegrine (Reply 113): For UA to end F international class; it then becomes a 2nd-tier carrier. Just more reason for me to completely ditch UA Mileage Plus and only credit to LH Miles & More. LH actually appreciates flyers and big spenders. I don't care to fly your crap airline any longer when your product is outdated, and you don't credit 95% of partner airline tickets for status. |
Quoting United Airline (Reply 121): Well Americans are the world's largest group for extremely high end travel. |
Quoting Pellegrine (Reply 113): Seat looks ok, I agree with UA playing catch up. Then again, there's literally no motivation for the US3 to be cutting edge. A lot of Americans are cheap as all hell and appreciate no style. |
Quoting Pellegrine (Reply 122): They have they dollars, but tend towards tawdriness and bland out of ho-hum monochrome upbringing. |
Quoting United Airline (Reply 121): They will never be cutting edge. |
Quoting Pellegrine (Reply 113): For UA to end F international class; it then becomes a 2nd-tier carrier. |
Quoting Pellegrine (Reply 113): LH actually appreciates flyers and big spenders. I don't care to fly your crap airline any longer when your product is outdated, and you don't credit 95% of partner airline tickets for status. |
Quoting Pellegrine (Reply 122): They have they dollars, but tend towards tawdriness and bland out of ho-hum monochrome upbringing. |
Quoting VC10er (Reply 127): Not once have I had an overtly unpleasant FA ever (not in many, many years). Perhaps some seem indifferent, but the vast majority are and are outgoing and very friendly. |
Quoting airzona11 (Reply 129): The branding looks awesome, the seats look great. The idea of a dedicated lounge for international Polaris travelers really increased the value of the United Club. I really don't see what business class is miles ahead of this. |
Quoting United1 (Reply 96): Not necessarily....I think you, and a few other posters on here, are thinking much too linearly. In essence this is a 1-2-1 product and has all the comfort/individual space that provides. The CX style seat is great and very comfortable but it also a horrible waste of space... |
Quoting commavia (Reply 3): I'm not sure about the brand name "Polaris," though. |
Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 115): For all the talk about 1-2-1 vs 2-4-2, the concept is very, very similar to what Emirates and Etihad have on their A380s. |
Quoting ldvaviation (Reply 132): But perhaps there was a good reason for that wasted space in the first place. |
Quoting ldvaviation (Reply 132): The name is consistent with another ill-conceived idea from United. Remember Allegis. |
Quoting Rdh3e (Reply 135): Employees will note that Oscar talks often about having a central vision to guide the company forward. He uses the metaphor of the North Star which all employees can see and navigate the company toward. This is obviously a homage to his vision of all of us working together to make the customer experience a great one and to unify employees in their mission of being exceptional, both for the customers, and for each other. Your post serves to motivate us against toxic attitudes and inspires us to continue improving the experience and health of our business. |
Quoting Rdh3e (Reply 137): Yes, but when is the last time the nickname a company uses for their premium cabin influenced someones purchasing decision? |
Quoting Rdh3e (Reply 137): Yes, but when is the last time the nickname a company uses for their premium cabin influenced someones purchasing decision? |
Quoting commavia (Reply 136): I just personally don't think "Polaris" is all that great. |
Quoting Rdh3e (Reply 137): Yes, but when is the last time the nickname a company uses for their premium cabin influenced someones purchasing decision? |
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Quoting VC10er (Reply 142): As a 30 professional branding person who has named many companies and products, it's a fantastic name. |
Quoting VC10er (Reply 143): As for other United names or naming conventions, I can think of a few that are iconic in the industry; "1k" "Global Services" "HEMISPHERES" "3PD" "Channel 9" (sadly less so these days) |
Quoting United1 (Reply 134): Or maybe they have simply improved the design... Take aircraft for instance...as the aircraft matures manufacturers find all sorts of ways of pulling weight off the frame. That doesn't mean the aircraft is built any less well than the first off the line...in fact the newer ones may actually perform better. |
Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 133): Where do people think the space comes from to offer 1-2-1? A worm hole? |
Quoting Rdh3e (Reply 135): Employees will note that Oscar talks often about having a central vision to guide the company forward. He uses the metaphor of the North Star which all employees can see and navigate the company toward. |
Quoting ldvaviation (Reply 145): Let me get this right. Oscar imposed his silly, motivational metaphor on a major United product. That's so Dilbert. |
Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 146): Iconic? What is it? |
Quoting ldvaviation (Reply 145): The aim here was not to improve the design of that seat, but to fit more seats in the same space of one Cirrus seat. |
Quoting ldvaviation (Reply 145): Was there any market research done |