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Al Baker: De Juniac Cannot Be "Biased" At Iata

Fri Jun 03, 2016 12:51 pm

This will be interesting to watch.

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Qatar Airways CEO Akbar Al Baker warned that he will watch closely whether current Air France-KLM Chairman Alexandre de Juniac will be “biased” against Gulf carriers when he assumes his new role as IATA Director General.

“He has been the architect of the s**t that has been thrown on us,” Al Baker told reporters here at the IATA annual general meeting. Al Baker referred to de Juniac’s role in demanding that the European Commission act against alleged unfair subsidies for Gulf carriers. “If we find that he is biased we will raise an issue. No one’s job is permanent,” Al Baker said.

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http://aviationweek.com/iata-agm-201...ns-de-juniac-cannot-be-biased-iata
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RE: Al Baker: De Juniac Cannot Be "Biased" At Iata

Fri Jun 03, 2016 1:39 pm

Getting ahead of the game. Language is rough around the edges, but I think it's a reasonable strategy.
 
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RE: Al Baker: De Juniac Cannot Be "Biased" At Iata

Fri Jun 03, 2016 4:32 pm

Akbar can whine, but little else. He's the big cheese in his own little world, and outside it, he's powerless. So he whines, because he can't act.

De Juniac is hardly losing sleep over Akbar's whining.
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RE: Al Baker: De Juniac Cannot Be "Biased" At Iata

Fri Jun 03, 2016 9:12 pm

Lets not forget, the next IATA chairman was to be Turkish Airlines CEO who was offered the position but at last minute and clearly due political pressure from folks like Christine Lagarde they pushed to find a new home for unemployed Juniac.

I can see how QR and even other IATA members that supported TK chairmanship raise their eyebrows about a very dull person like Juniac leading the group and what his agenda might be.
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RE: Al Baker: De Juniac Cannot Be "Biased" At Iata

Sun Jun 05, 2016 9:00 am

Quoting Asturias (Reply 2):


Those that are old and becoming decrepit feel it is within their rights to moan and complain. I feel that this is where he is in this stage of his life.
 
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RE: Al Baker: De Juniac Cannot Be "Biased" At Iata

Sun Jun 05, 2016 9:16 am

Quoting mercure1 (Reply 3):
Lets not forget, the next IATA chairman was to be Turkish Airlines CEO who was offered the position but at last minute and clearly due political pressure from folks like Christine Lagarde they pushed to find a new home for unemployed Juniac

Please do not confuse chairman and CEO. An IATA Chairman retains his airline executive position, while a CEO must relinquish it, as CEO is a full time job.

I do not believe Kotil, having been the key actor of Turkish Airlines phenomenal growth, would have accepted the IATA CEO position at such a crucial time for TK.

On the other hand, Juniac was not unemployed at the time of his designation, just fed up of AF/KLM desillusory environment. This does not mean he was the best fit for the job !
 
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RE: Al Baker: De Juniac Cannot Be "Biased" At Iata

Sun Jun 05, 2016 10:01 am

Quoting mercure1 (Reply 3):
Lets not forget, the next IATA chairman was to be Turkish Airlines CEO who was offered the position but at last minute and clearly due political pressure from folks like Christine Lagarde they pushed to find a new home for unemployed Juniac.

We know from your other posts on this forum that you dislike A. De Juniac and you have certainly the right to do so, but you should refrain to post "n'importe quoi". So AdJ was unemployed when he was chosen for the new IATA position ???
 
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RE: Al Baker: De Juniac Cannot Be "Biased" At Iata

Sun Jun 05, 2016 10:39 am

With so many consolidations forming "Big 3" in many regions except Asia, Does anyone else foresee more finger pointing like this happening in the future among a much smaller group, all suspicious of each other? Due to the JV's among the US and EU big 3 might not be so much of a problem there, but essentially we may end up with US/EU vs ME vs everyone else.

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RE: Al Baker: De Juniac Cannot Be "Biased" At Iata

Sun Jun 05, 2016 4:35 pm

What a disrespectful xxxhole. What would be funny is if other companies like Airbus and Boeing refused to do business with him because of his continuous moaning, back-stabbing and generally bad attitude. Then he would be the one losing his job.
 
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RE: Al Baker: De Juniac Cannot Be "Biased" At Iata

Mon Jun 06, 2016 9:55 pm

Quoting mercure1 (Reply 3):
Lets not forget, the next IATA chairman was to be Turkish Airlines CEO who was offered the position but at last minute and clearly due political pressure from folks like Christine Lagarde they pushed to find a new home for unemployed Juniac.

Oh my. Another demonstration how obsession with a certain idea (in this case: de Juniac is terrible) can lead to creative thinking and outright lying.

1) Christine Lagarde, at the IMF, exercised political pressure to jave de Juniac as CEO of IATA? Ridiculous. Yes, we know, he worked for her before, but that doesn't mean that she exercises political pressure. On whom? Which levers would she use? IMF funds? The IMF Board would intervene in such a case.
2) Unemployed Juniac? You do realise that he is not unemployed, he is still employed as CEO of AFKL until September 1st. The day he announced that he is stepping down there was noone else lined up to replace him, so this was not a matter of the board sacking the CEO as the board would have had a replacement in place, and be it only one of the board members to act as the interim CEO (as has happened in other large corporations where they sacked the CEO overnight before having a replacement) - so clearl, he is/was not unemployed. He is just absolutely fed up with eternal whiners from the unions who refuse to wake up to reality, and I can't blame him.
3) The CEO of TK was never going to be the CEO of IATA

Quoting mercure1 (Reply 3):
I can see how QR and even other IATA members that supported TK chairmanship raise their eyebrows about a very dull person like Juniac leading the group and what his agenda might be.

Could you please expand on how not being dull is the one criteria that will make other airlines raise an eyebrow or not? Wouldn't they care about other things rather than dullness?
 
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RE: Al Baker: De Juniac Cannot Be "Biased" At Iata

Mon Jun 06, 2016 10:52 pm

Quoting KarelXWB (Thread starter):
"No one’s job is permanent,” Al Baker said.

Let's hope his isn't. He's getting to be a tired caricature of himself.
 
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RE: Al Baker: De Juniac Cannot Be "Biased" At Iata

Mon Jun 06, 2016 11:11 pm

Quoting jmchevallier (Reply 5):
I do not believe Kotil, having been the key actor of Turkish Airlines phenomenal growth, would have accepted the IATA CEO position at such a crucial time for TK.

According to media reports in Turkey, he had accepted the position. He currently is the president of Association of European Airlines, and already sits as a board member of IATA governing board.

Per Aviation Week Juniac's name only came up at a very late stage when Kotil appointment was almost set.

http://aviationweek.com/commercial-a...lent-nomination-needs-clear-agenda

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I don't have any special insight, though it does seem rather odd for a last minute change in appointment for a large organization like IATA where the succession planning is a well orchestrated affair and hardly one that should produce controversy.

As far as my personal opinion of Juniac vs Kotil, I see one as a rather dull candidate that really has not accomplished anything in his brief 3 year stint, while other is a well accomplished life long aerospace person who has served as a very accomplished leader of his company for more than a decade.

I guess this might be a reflection of why trade groups like IATA are often perceived as old school boy clubs that don't accomplish much these days..
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RE: Al Baker: De Juniac Cannot Be "Biased" At Iata

Tue Jun 07, 2016 12:48 am

Quoting jmchevallier (Reply 5):
Quoting mercure1 (Reply 3):
Lets not forget, the next IATA chairman was to be Turkish Airlines CEO who was offered the position but at last minute and clearly due political pressure from folks like Christine Lagarde they pushed to find a new home for unemployed Juniac

Please do not confuse chairman and CEO. An IATA Chairman retains his airline executive position, while a CEO must relinquish it, as CEO is a full time job.

Rumours say Kotil was in the running for the IATA Director General & CEO position, the position that went to de Juniac.

The only IATA chairman position is the chairman of the Board of Governors, a largely figurehead position that changes every year. The new chairman of the BoG for this year (from June) is Willie Walsh, CEO of IAG. He replaces last year's chairman, Andres Conesa, CEO of Aeromexico. The next chairman effective in June 2017 will be the current CEO of Singapore Airlines (assuming he's still around then; picking someone for a position in the airline industry a year in advance is somewhat risky.)
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