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Airbus Muzzles The Barking Dog

Mon Jun 13, 2016 4:08 pm

FG is reporting that airbus has found a fix for that annoying hydraulic pump noise

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...nces-the-a320s-barking-dog-426290/

Although I doubt this quote is true as I'm sure a lot of people like me have thought 'what the hell's that?'...

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But it stresses that, while the noise is a well-known aspect of the A320, it has never been a source of concern to customers.
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[Edited 2016-06-13 09:24:49]
 
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RE: Airbus Muzzles The Barking Dog

Mon Jun 13, 2016 4:11 pm

Quoting fcogafa (Thread starter):
Although I doubt this quote is true as I'm sure a lot of people like me have thought 'what the hell's that?'...

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But it stresses that, while the noise is a well-known aspect of the A320, it has never been a source of concern to customers.
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Honestly, I have never recalled anyone expressing concern over it, just interest. Probably because I only recall hearing it on power-down at the gate after arrival so the flight is over and people are disembarking.
 
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RE: Airbus Muzzles The Barking Dog

Mon Jun 13, 2016 4:14 pm

I'll miss the barking. That said, I've actually seen passengers get scared of it, especially when the barking continues during takeoff.
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RE: Airbus Muzzles The Barking Dog

Mon Jun 13, 2016 4:15 pm

It is becoming more regular on departure as airlines taxi out on one engine and start the other at the hold, quite a lot of it occurs at LHR
 
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Mon Jun 13, 2016 4:16 pm

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RE: Airbus Muzzles The Barking Dog

Mon Jun 13, 2016 4:18 pm

Want to experience some real fun? Try crates of live chickens in the aft hold of a DC-3 on takeoff.
 
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RE: Airbus Muzzles The Barking Dog

Mon Jun 13, 2016 4:25 pm

On arrival I always assumed it was a stowaway sawing their way out of the hold!   
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RE: Airbus Muzzles The Barking Dog

Mon Jun 13, 2016 4:27 pm

I will miss the barking dogs too, but Boeing should look at this.

It would be nice if they can fix the annoying high pitch sound on the 787 as well.
 
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RE: Airbus Muzzles The Barking Dog

Mon Jun 13, 2016 4:29 pm

Turning on the Blue Hydraulic pump keeps that from happening during single engine operations.
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RE: Airbus Muzzles The Barking Dog

Mon Jun 13, 2016 9:40 pm

Leave things alone! What with this and silencing the whistling noise heard from the ground as aircraft pass overhead they're making Airbuses less unique!
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RE: Airbus Muzzles The Barking Dog

Mon Jun 13, 2016 9:48 pm

Quoting fcogafa (Thread starter):
...it has never been a source of concern to customers.

Customers in this context are the fleet planners at airlines, not the passengers in the planes.  
 
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RE: Airbus Muzzles The Barking Dog

Mon Jun 13, 2016 9:53 pm

Quoting fcogafa (Thread starter):
that annoying hydraulic pump noise

It's not annoying! It gives a nice touch to the aircraft model!

The same with the "Taurus" locomotive built by Siemens. When it accelerates from a standstill, you can hear a wonderful scale - though I don't know if it's diatonic or chromatic. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zDkTVFL61g


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RE: Airbus Muzzles The Barking Dog

Mon Jun 13, 2016 10:26 pm

Crikey, I thought you'd meant they'd found a way to silence Al Baker.   

Interesting though, it had always struck me that there was a fix available, but that it simply wasn't optimal so we remained with the barking dog.


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RE: Airbus Muzzles The Barking Dog

Mon Jun 13, 2016 10:34 pm

First it was the howling noise caused by the vents on the underside of the wings. Now they're taking my dog away?  

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RE: Airbus Muzzles The Barking Dog

Mon Jun 13, 2016 10:48 pm

Quoting fcogafa (Thread starter):
But it stresses that, while the noise is a well-known aspect of the A320, it has never been a source of concern to customers.

No shit. The sales numbers are a testament to that
 
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RE: Airbus Muzzles The Barking Dog

Mon Jun 13, 2016 10:56 pm

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 12):
Crikey, I thought you'd meant they'd found a way to silence Al Baker.

Haha yeh that was my first thought when I read the title  I thought they've managed to shut him and Qatar Airways up.
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RE: Airbus Muzzles The Barking Dog

Mon Jun 13, 2016 11:04 pm

I always wondered what the noise was, now I know! I remember once flying from DEN-MSP on a DL A320 and the dog barked all the way through takeoff, and upon landing at MSP became noticeable again. That dog just didn't tire out!  
 
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RE: Airbus Muzzles The Barking Dog

Mon Jun 13, 2016 11:12 pm

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 12):
Crikey, I thought you'd meant they'd found a way to silence Al Baker.   
Quoting Luftymatt (Reply 15):

Haha yeh that was my first thought when I read the title

I thought John Leahy was getting fired.
 
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RE: Airbus Muzzles The Barking Dog

Mon Jun 13, 2016 11:15 pm

Quoting N1120A (Reply 2):
I'll miss the barking. That said, I've actually seen passengers get scared of it

   I've definitely seen people get scared/upset over it.

One person in a very nervous voice was saying "sounds like the flaps won't come down" over and over again. She even pressed the call button and told the FA that.

...'course, a quick look out the window would show that they were already down, but hey, at least she was vigilant.  



Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 12):
Crikey, I thought you'd meant they'd found a way to silence Al Baker.

You sir, have just won the thread! ROFL!   
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RE: Airbus Muzzles The Barking Dog

Mon Jun 13, 2016 11:18 pm

Quoting N1120A (Reply 2):

I'll miss the barking. That said, I've actually seen passengers get scared of it, especially when the barking continues during takeoff.

You should not be hearing it during takeoff as all hydraulic systems should be running on their own pumps.
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RE: Airbus Muzzles The Barking Dog

Mon Jun 13, 2016 11:37 pm

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 19):
You should not be hearing it during takeoff as all hydraulic systems should be running on their own pumps.

It is rare, but I've definitely heard it.
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RE: Airbus Muzzles The Barking Dog

Mon Jun 13, 2016 11:37 pm

Quoting fcogafa (Thread starter):
But it stresses that, while the noise is a well-known aspect of the A320, it has never been a source of concern to customers.
Quoting fcogafa (Reply 3):
It is becoming more regular on departure as airlines taxi out on one engine and start the other at the hold, quite a lot of it occurs at LHR

While on a flight once that was taxiing out on one engine, the noise was loud and the FAs eventually came on to explain what was going on, so some passengers must have been worried.
 
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RE: Airbus Muzzles The Barking Dog

Mon Jun 13, 2016 11:46 pm

I flew ZRH-LHR last February with Swiss and man , that bloody dog was barking right through the safety drill, all the way out to the departure runway. (didn't even have the courtesy to put its newspaper down and listen to the drill!)
 
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RE: Airbus Muzzles The Barking Dog

Mon Jun 13, 2016 11:51 pm

not sure what the sound is but can't be more disconcerting than the super loud actuators on the 767 wing surfaces. EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA and occasionally a CHUNK.
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Re: Airbus Muzzles The Barking Dog

Tue Jun 14, 2016 7:53 pm

I watched a documentary on British TV the other night that was following a fear of flying course ran by easyJet. One of the sections of the course was specifically mentioning the 'barking dog' noise, the captain running the course explained what it was and why it wasn't anything to be worried about.
 
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Re: Airbus Muzzles The Barking Dog

Tue Jun 14, 2016 8:09 pm

On the subject of strange noises Airbuses make, I took my first and so far only A330 flight just under 2 years ago (ORD-ARN on SK). As we were making our long, slow, stop and go taxi to the runway every time the pilot hit the brakes the plane would make this CLUNK HISSSSS sound. The hiss part sounded a bit like a semi's air brakes. I wasn't really concerned about it, nor did anyone else around me seem to be, but I've just always been curious if that was a typical noise all A330s make. I did not notice a similar sound on the A340-300 I was on for the return flight.
 
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Re: RE: Airbus Muzzles The Barking Dog

Tue Jun 14, 2016 8:21 pm

PlymSpotter wrote:
Crikey, I thought you'd meant they'd found a way to silence Al Baker.   

Interesting though, it had always struck me that there was a fix available, but that it simply wasn't optimal so we remained with the barking dog.


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I thought JL - seriously - and wondered what he must've done to get canned.

I'm embarrassed to say that I've read of this issue with the sounds before but when we flew on an A321 last year, I told my wife on landing that I could hear a barking dog. lol It occurred to me as we taxied to the gate that it was the notorious "barking dog" sound.

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Re: RE: Airbus Muzzles The Barking Dog

Tue Jun 14, 2016 8:44 pm

N1120A wrote:
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 19):You should not be hearing it during takeoff as all hydraulic systems should be running on their own pumps.
It is rare, but I've definitely heard it.

I have as well. Again, rarely, but I do recall hearing it on takeoff at least once.
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Re: Airbus Muzzles The Barking Dog

Tue Jun 14, 2016 8:48 pm

Yflyer wrote:
On the subject of strange noises Airbuses make


I've noticed similar noises on Airbus NB planes. Not so much the hiss you describe but definitely a clunk...clunk which i presume is the brakes, but I could very well be wrong.
 
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Re: Airbus Muzzles The Barking Dog

Tue Jun 14, 2016 9:10 pm

That flightglobal article is wrong. The additional hydraulic silencers close to the EDPs can't do anything at all against noise from the PTU. They reduce the noise from the EDPs. That is not any "barking" but rather a constant high pitch tone, sometimes with beating.


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Re: Airbus Muzzles The Barking Dog

Tue Jun 14, 2016 10:09 pm

The A320 is most likely my most flown aircraft and I swear I've heard it maybe 3 times.
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Re: Airbus Muzzles The Barking Dog

Tue Jun 14, 2016 10:43 pm

This is a shame. I like the barking dog and buzzsaw noises...gives some character to the A320 family.
 
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Re: Airbus Muzzles The Barking Dog

Tue Jun 14, 2016 10:52 pm

Goodbye, barking PTU. :cry:
 
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Re: Airbus Muzzles The Barking Dog

Tue Jun 14, 2016 11:01 pm

As I said before there will be no change to the noise from the PTU. That is simply impossible with the modifications Flightglobal describes. Only the whining from the EDPs will be reduced.


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Tue Jun 14, 2016 11:03 pm

OA412 wrote:
N1120A wrote:
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 19):You should not be hearing it during takeoff as all hydraulic systems should be running on their own pumps.
It is rare, but I've definitely heard it.

I have as well. Again, rarely, but I do recall hearing it on takeoff at least once.


Can anyone explain why this would be the case? Surely one can't take off with all the pumps on one circuit deferred.
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Re: Airbus Muzzles The Barking Dog

Tue Jun 14, 2016 11:26 pm

This has been a humorous issue to try and explain to the passengers. "That's one angry dog!", I have heard more than once. Another problem, and i'm not sure if this is unique to the 319, is the nearly overpowering smell of fumes after push back and during engine start. It borders on being alarming, and several on board have brought it to my attention. It dissipates in a matter of minutes. I know i'm off topic, but just a comment.
 
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Re: Airbus Muzzles The Barking Dog

Wed Jun 15, 2016 1:58 am

ozark1 wrote:
This has been a humorous issue to try and explain to the passengers.


When a friend of mine flew to her holidays, I pointed out the barking dog in the belly, and told her to listen for it. I've noticed the dog several times, but sadly she didn't hear it.

She's not into aviation, but she was very amused that the power transfer unit can make such noises.

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Wed Jun 15, 2016 2:15 am

Ronaldo747 wrote:
I will miss the barking dogs too, but Boeing should look at this.

It would be nice if they can fix the annoying high pitch sound on the 787 as well.


All Boeing is doing is using left-over supplies of pumps for the DC9/MD-whatevers.
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Re: Airbus Muzzles The Barking Dog

Wed Jun 15, 2016 2:40 am

Can anyone explain why this would be the case? Surely one can't take off with all the pumps on one circuit deferred


I have heard it on occasion on take off as well.
I only assumed that it was a combination reduced thrust/flex take off (reduced N speed) and the high hydraulic demand of retracting the gear calls for the dog to bark once or twice to keep the pressure up on that gears hydraulic system.

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Wed Jun 15, 2016 2:49 am

Hypoxik wrote:
Turning on the Blue Hydraulic pump keeps that from happening during single engine operations.


I think you mean turning on the yellow electric pump. The blue hydraulic system is not connected to, or in any way affected by, the PTU. BTW using the yellow electric pump is SOP for single engine taxi operations. At least at my last airline it was. Here is China they are so scared of single engine taxi that it has been banned by the CAAC for all operations with the exception of after landing at Beijing, Shanghai and Guangzhou, and it requires specific training and authorisation.
 
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Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:17 am

winterlight wrote:
Leave things alone! What with this and silencing the whistling noise heard from the ground as aircraft pass overhead they're making Airbuses less unique!


I agree. The PTU sound gives the A320 more character. Will be a shame if it gets silenced.
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Re: Airbus Muzzles The Barking Dog

Wed Jun 15, 2016 5:09 am

I fail to see why this suddenly was a topic.
 
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Re: Airbus Muzzles The Barking Dog

Wed Jun 15, 2016 5:49 am

And all this time I just assumed that it was some kind of security bolts in the external cargo hold doors being locked/unlocked before/after takeoff/landing.
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Re: Airbus Muzzles The Barking Dog

Wed Jun 15, 2016 5:51 am

I've always found the barking humorous, makes for some good ramp jokes :)
 
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Re: Airbus Muzzles The Barking Dog

Wed Jun 15, 2016 6:10 am

Okie wrote:
Can anyone explain why this would be the case? Surely one can't take off with all the pumps on one circuit deferred


I have heard it on occasion on take off as well.
I only assumed that it was a combination reduced thrust/flex take off (reduced N speed) and the high hydraulic demand of retracting the gear calls for the dog to bark once or twice to keep the pressure up on that gears hydraulic system.

Okie


I have heard the PTU run during gear retraction on takeoff on every A320 I have been on that I have sat over the wing and it has usually pulsates quite quickly. It is certainly harder to hear compared to when it runs on the ground, but it is there.

WesternDC6B wrote:
Ronaldo747 wrote:
I will miss the barking dogs too, but Boeing should look at this.

It would be nice if they can fix the annoying high pitch sound on the 787 as well.


All Boeing is doing is using left-over supplies of pumps for the DC9/MD-whatevers.


The 787's hydraulic pumps are exclusive to the type and I desperately hope they forever stay that way. They are terribly loud and sound awful.

masi1157 wrote:
That flightglobal article is wrong. The additional hydraulic silencers close to the EDPs can't do anything at all against noise from the PTU. They reduce the noise from the EDPs. That is not any "barking" but rather a constant high pitch tone, sometimes with beating.


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It does seem rather odd that they would put a silencing device near the EDP in hope of silencing the PTU which is essentially mounted to part of the aft wall of the main gear well which is clearly far from the engines. I wasn't aware though that the EDPs made any audible noise. I know the ACMPs make noise and I am convinced that one of the two types of these offered on the A320 is especially loud, but don't think they could make those any quieter.
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Wed Jun 15, 2016 7:06 am

PlymSpotter wrote:
Crikey, I thought you'd meant they'd found a way to silence Al Baker.   
Dan  

The person who pop into my mind on seeing the title is JL.
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Re: Airbus Muzzles The Barking Dog

Wed Jun 15, 2016 9:34 am

..bit off topic maybe.. but the barking dog on the A3XX is nothing to worry pax I think.. how about the noise the BAe 146 makes while deploying its flaps? Now, in this case I do have seen more than one worried face over the years! :o
 
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Wed Jun 15, 2016 11:15 am

PlymSpotter wrote:
Crikey, I thought you'd meant they'd found a way to silence Al Baker.  ... 


That's exactly what i was thinking :D
 
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Re: Airbus Muzzles The Barking Dog

Wed Jun 15, 2016 11:33 am

You guys commenting on Al Bakar are wrong. He's not the barking dog, he's the whining bitch.

Get it right.
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767333ER wrote:
I have heard the PTU run during gear retraction on takeoff on every A320 I have been on that I have sat over the wing and it has usually pulsates quite quickly. It is certainly harder to hear compared to when it runs on the ground, but it is there.


I have never once heard the PTU run after both engines start. I can hear gear retraction, but I do not hear the PTU. Gear retraction is a dull rumble and then some dull thumps.
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