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FedEx: "A380 Better Than 747 Stretch"

Fri Feb 09, 2001 12:24 am

FedEx says Airbus A380 quantum leap over Boeing jet

PARIS, Feb 8 (Reuters) - The head of FedEx Corp (NYSE:FDX - news) said on Thursday the company had committed to purchasing a freighter version of the Airbus A380 superjumbo because the plane was light years ahead of Boeing Co's (NYSE:BA - news) competing jet.

Frederick Smith, chief executive of the world's number two package shipper, told reporters at a briefing here that the Airbus plane offered roughly 40 percent more cargo space -- 39,000 cubic feet versus 27,500 -- than the Boeing 747 stretch cargo plane.

He said the Airbus (quote from Yahoo! UK & Ireland: BA.L) plane was also more attractive in terms of range and fuel burn.

``The Boeing 747 stretch was simply not as attractive,'' Smith said. ``The A380 was a quantum leap above it in terms of efficiency. It was a new design and a complete step up versus the Boeing plane.''

Smith said the deadline for sealing a definitive contract for the A380 was the end of June, but said a detailed memorandum of understanding (MOU) would probably pave the way for an earlier signing.

The A380, Smith said, will allow FedEx to transport roughly 150 tonnes over a distance of 6,000 nautical miles. By comparison, the MD-11, which is the company's largest plane at present, has capacity for 80 tonnes and range of 4,000 nautical miles.

Smith, who declined to say how much FedEx was paying for the Airbus planes, said that performance guarantees on range and fuel burn were written into the MOU with Airbus.

Separately, Smith said FedEx would not be interested in purchasing an Airbus A330-200 freighter, a plane the Toulouse-based manufacturer said last month it planned to launch soon, for several years.

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RE: FedEx: "A380 Better Than 747 Stretch"

Fri Feb 09, 2001 12:26 am

Consider the source here... Reuters, from Paris. This is like the Seattle Post-Intelligencer releasing a story saying that Boeing products are the best in the world.
 
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RE: FedEx: "A380 Better Than 747 Stretch"

Fri Feb 09, 2001 12:27 am

I think the reason why FedEx bought the A380F is simple: the type of cargo FedEx carries are mostly small boxes that can be palletized and loaded onto a plane fairly quickly.

They're not into the outsized cargo that the 747F is designed to handle.

Besides, I believe the A380F can fly MEM-NRT non-stop.
 
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RE: FedEx: "A380 Better Than 747 Stretch"

Fri Feb 09, 2001 12:31 am

it couldn't get anymore better.......

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RE: FedEx: "A380 Better Than 747 Stretch"

Fri Feb 09, 2001 12:41 am

Alright. I'm using UPS from this day onwards if I want to send something fast
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RE: FedEx: "A380 Better Than 747 Stretch"

Fri Feb 09, 2001 12:42 am

Even if it was writen in France.. the guy said it you cant deny that!
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RE: FedEx: "A380 Better Than 747 Stretch"

Fri Feb 09, 2001 12:51 am

I now have to refine my mantra to "if its not Boeing, my overnight deliveries aren't going."  Laugh out loud

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RE: FedEx: "A380 Better Than 747 Stretch"

Fri Feb 09, 2001 1:32 am

I think that the 380 is much better. Not because the A380 look cuter, but it can offer more space? There's not much more to say for a cargo carrier is there? It's striaght forward, no need for bar planning or casino placing, just plain walls and huge sapce for cargo?

Need I say more? Need Fed Ex say more?
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RE: FedEx: "A380 Better Than 747 Stretch"

Fri Feb 09, 2001 1:39 am

Something doesn't add up. FedEx previously said that 747X design wasn't even finalized. Then how can they definitively say that A380 is 'quantum leap' ahead of 747X? This just sounds like PR stunt to defend/show off their big purchase.
 
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RE: FedEx: "A380 Better Than 747 Stretch"

Fri Feb 09, 2001 2:16 am

Boeing haven't finalised the 747X Stretch design, but they have a fair idea of the basics......perhaps this is what he was referring to......I guess same as A380...you set yourself a number of basic specs, then you set about designing the aircraft to meet them....
 
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RE: FedEx: "A380 Better Than 747 Stretch"

Fri Feb 09, 2001 2:31 am


First the late Atlas CEO criticised the B747X publicly! Then
now it looks like the FedEx CEO did the same. That is not
a good sign for Boeing no matter how anyone puts it!!!

And BTW, maybe it is time to modify the slogan, how about
``If it is Boeing, we are not going.''  Smile/happy/getting dizzy  Smile/happy/getting dizzy  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

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RE: FedEx: "A380 Better Than 747 Stretch"

Fri Feb 09, 2001 2:38 am

Let us not forget one thing, Boeing has for years been resting on its laurels with the 747. They should have been developing a way to keep the super jumbo market. They have always preferred to stretch, and widen a plane instead of having fresh designs. I am surprised it has not come back to bite them in the butt before now.
 
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RE: FedEx: "A380 Better Than 747 Stretch"

Fri Feb 09, 2001 2:40 am

To you Boeing fans (which I am one of), how are you gonna say you won't ship with FedEx because they are getting the A380, when UPS just ordered up 60 A300-600F's with options for 50 more? Let me guess, you all meant the USPS right?
 
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RE: FedEx:

Fri Feb 09, 2001 2:53 am

Wow thanks for the UPS support!

I'm going to some this up with one comparison. MD-11 pre production sales!

The MD-11 was promising great range and economics but failed miserably to fullfill that promise to launch customers. Sure after modifications and downtime they came closer to those economic figures but still fell short. Those airlines have or are selling off the MD-11 cheaply and that is how they are ending up a popular freighter.

The A-380 has no proven figures yet. Will it meet the required time for evacuation of passengers to be certified. I'm sure Airbus has it figured out on a computer but nobody will know until it is put through it's tests.

Will the A380 fit in current airport ramps and gating systems the 74 uses. From what I have seen it will fit within inches, I hope that they don't have to modify the design, it hasn't flown yet! If so we are looking at $$$$ to modify airports, who is going to pay for the cost, the airlines who fly the A3xxx.

Will the A380 have a turnaround time as fast or faster than a 747 or proposed 747x? Again on paper or computer I'm sure Airbus has that figured out but we'll know when the true test comes.

Freight loading, the double decker design is going to challenge todays cargo handlers for sure. I have read that there will be an elevator in the aircraft to unload upperdeck cargo. What weight penalty is this going to cause. If the elevator isn't the case then has ground equipment capable of reaching the upper deck been developed yet? If so who is going to pay for this cost, the airline. I'm sure airbus has the correct loading procedures and weight limitations figured out along with range and fuel burn on computer, BUT there is no way of proving these THEORIES without flight testing. That will be the ultimate test on the A380.

I could go on and on but the bottom line is Airbus' laws of Physics look promising on paper and on a computer but will those laws be broken when the plane flies?

This isn't an Airbus vs Boeing post! The same questions hold true for the 747X but one thing to remember. The 747 has already notched 3 decades of flight under it's belt the A380 has no flight under it's belt. It comes down to this do you want the older, experienced guy that has proven that he can do the job, or the young kid who has new, great ideas but they are not proven to work, to do the job? Big gamble for a multimillion dollar purchase. We did see this 3 decades ago though, and guess what it worked, 747 was that young kid who has new, great ideas but they are not proven to work, to do the job.

Lets wait and see. I'm glad UPS decided to wait on a decision on the LRX purchase.
 
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RE: FedEx: "A380 Better Than 747 Stretch"

Fri Feb 09, 2001 3:35 am

To answer the criticism that Boeing has failed to come up with any "fresh" designs, I must ask what would be the point of a "fresh" design. By modifying existing models, Boeing creates different products that are interchangeable. And as I recall from history class, it was interchangeable parts that led to the industrial revolution and permitted the assembly line.

By way of illustration, if it were to buy a VLA, BA could either buy an A380 or a 747X. To buy the 380, it would have to train pilots that would only be trained for the 380. It would have to purchase speciality ground equipment for the 380. It would have to purchase spare parts for the 380.

On the other hand, if it buys the 74X, presumably pilots qualified for the 744 would be qualified for the 74X (just as pilots are cross-rated for the 733 and the 73G). Most ground equipment would be interchangeable as would most spare parts. One would certainly suspect that this creates a large cost savings for any current 747 operator over the A380.

On its program about the A380 last night, The Learning Channel had a segment recalling another VLA: the Spruce Goose. I could not have come up with a better analogy myself.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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Re: Wn Boy

Fri Feb 09, 2001 4:17 am

Im sure all "launch" airlines considered all of your points, im sure you are not the first or last to come up with these arguments, but they still considered thed A380 as a better solution for them.

Also since you mentioned the Spruce Goose...

Did you notice that the US governmet financed it? (Just adding wood to the fire!)
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Re: Wn Boy

Fri Feb 09, 2001 4:39 am

Yeah, I'm sure they thought "Spruce Goose" when developing the 747 too.
 
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RE: FedEx:

Fri Feb 09, 2001 4:44 am

The reason for the MD11's commercial failure lies beyond failed initial expectations and rests with a company virtually broke and unable or unwilling to fund the necessary improvements needed to keep the confidence of their customers.

Just look at the 707-100 series. This aircraft also didn't meet initial range requirements, but Boeing had the financial wherewithall to make substantial improvements, essentially redesigning the wing, turning a potential lemon into a winner and vaulting Boeing to the commercial airline pinnacle.
The difference between the MD11 and A380 should be obvious. Airbus has the financial resources to work out the inevitable bugs where MDD did not.
Fresh designs: After the A380 is in production, I predict all new future Airbus aircraft will be of derivative design for decades to come.
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RE: FedEx: "A380 Better Than 747 Stretch"

Fri Feb 09, 2001 4:48 am

I remember reading a story about how Boeing and their "market researchers" had decided to shelve the 747X and the Boeing NLA. They said that there wouldnt be a market for superjumbos, so they concentrated on smaller aircraft.


Betcha those "market researchers" dont have jobs anymore.
 
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RE: FedEx: "A380 Better Than 747 Stretch"

Fri Feb 09, 2001 5:00 am

Actually, Boeing literally had to bet the worth of the company to develop the 707-320 Intercontinental series. Boeing managers from those days remember the steep costs of building what almost amounted to a new plane--wide fuselage, bigger wing, taller tail, etc.--compared to the 707 prototype.

And Boeing did the same with the 747--it was a huge and expensive investment with building a large plane and the big factory at Paine Field in Everett, WA to assemble it.

WN Boy, the problem with the Spruce Goose was the fact the plane was already obselete when they started construction, not to mention the fact that Howard Hughes constantly tinkered with the design of the plane. The A380 already has a massive engineering research effort mostly behind it and Airbus is probably very close with the final "blueprint" to start assembling the first prototype.

But getting back on topic,  Smile the primary reason why FedEx ordered the A380F is simple: they wanted a plane that can carry a lot of small packages a LONG distance. Remember, the A380F's has the range to fly MEM-NRT non-stop, which means FedEx can fly from Asia to the USA without having to stop at ANC for fuel, as is normal practice with 747 Freighter models.
 
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RE: FedEx:

Fri Feb 09, 2001 5:02 am

UPS Pilot,

well said. You just posted one of the most balanced and
reasonable post on this list. It is a sort of good to see
such post in the sea of ``teens's dreams''.

Just one comment on the necessary work on airports. If
the predictions about the growth of air traffic are right,
major improvements will be necessary on a lots of airport
very soon, regardless of the A380. So millions (or rather
billions) will be spent anyway.

Janos
 
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RE: FedEx: "A380 Better Than 747 Stretch"

Fri Feb 09, 2001 5:08 am

Where's the caveat in the original press release that reads "...on paper at least"? Smith might be feeling a little agitated today at how Reuters used his comments to come up with BS terms like "light years ahead". Reuters are as much a bunch of wankers as the guys at the Seattle Post. On their knees all day swallowing whatever flows out of Everett and Toulouse.

Who has this numbnut's bname from Reuters? Let's keep it on file and send him a note should the 380 turn out a mess.
 
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RE: FedEx: "A380 Better Than 747 Stretch"

Fri Feb 09, 2001 5:48 am

To all: I think that public statements by CEO's regarding purchases involving the amounts Fedex intends to spend on A380's should be considered with a certain degree of cynicism. While Fedex obviously bought what they thought would best suit their purpose and get the best value for their money, I seem to recall a discussion over at Orders Group which dealt with how close Boeing/Fedex came to closing a deal for 747XF, the issue being price. It was also stated that Airbus was then going to approach Fedex again about A380 in what appears to be the meeting that resulted in a deal.
Seems to me that the distance the frames are with regard to being "light years apart" is best measured in dollars more than anything else.
That said, it would appear that freighter orders are now going to have the intense rivalry that pax a/c now have,
especially if we see the launch of an A330F/777F!

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RE: FedEx: "A380 Better Than 747 Stretch"

Fri Feb 09, 2001 5:59 am

I agree with UPS pilot, its something I ve been saying for a long time now that if airbus can deliver on their promise the A380 will become very popular, if not we are going to have another MD-11 kind of story remeber they are going to be under a microscope. Even if airbus is willing to fund the necessary improvements it might be kind of hard to recover from the criticism, plus we will probably know alot more about 747strech by then, and just like the comet and 707 story, boeing will probably learn from the mistakes airbus makes. Something I wanted to point out about the article is one of the reasons FedEx ordered A380F instead of super 747 is because the A380 will be ready well before the 747 will.
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RE: FedEx: "A380 Better Than 747 Stretch"

Fri Feb 09, 2001 6:02 am

"Remember, the A380F's has the range to fly MEM-NRT non-stop, which means FedEx can fly from Asia to the USA without having to stop at ANC for fuel, as is normal practice with 747 Freighter models"

Even with this immense range... I would be willing to bet a FedEX A380 will still stop in Anchorage. Why??? same reason our planes stop there now... transloads of freight not going to NRT or KIX. I doubt any one hub can fill an entire plane with nothing but NRT freight. ON the reverse route though, a non stop would make sense. I would personally like to see the plane fly into SFS... it would be a sight... and a brave flight crew.

Theres going to be alot of costs associated with brniging this plane on, new loaders to reach the upper deck, airport inprovements (ex.. SFS where fedex is the primary user). And since the plane is allegedly able to be downloaded in 22 minutes.. i can't wait to see the army they have assembled to do this.

Back to Fred's comments.. knowing the press they moved them out of context.. I highly doubt Fred would be dumb enough to alienate boeing.. some one needs to replace our 727's. Then agaiin, back in the day, Juan Trippe always had amodel of a Comet on his desk in Pan Am colors to spur the development of the 707 when he met with Boeing people... hecould be spuring them on maybe...

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RE: FedEx: "A380 Better Than 747 Stretch"

Fri Feb 09, 2001 6:06 am

This is all form, while I am for the 747(I just don't trust joysticks Big grin), it could easily be reversed, like this:

FedEx says Boeing 747X quantum leap over Airbus jet

PARIS, Feb 8 (Reuters) - The head of FedEx Corp (NYSE:FDX - news) said on Thursday the company had committed to purchasing a freighter version of the Boeing 747X superjumbo because the plane was light years ahead of Airbus Consortium's competing jet.

Frederick Smith, chief executive of the world's number two package shipper, told reporters at a briefing here that the Boeing plane offered roughly 40 percent less turnaround time --2.75 hours compared to 4.00 hours-- than the Airbus A380 cargo plane.

He said the Boeing (quote from Yahoo! UK & Ireland) plane was also more attractive in terms of range and fuel burn.

``The Airbus A380 was simply not as attractive,'' Smith said. ``The 747X was a quantum leap above it in terms of efficiency. It was a new design and a complete step up versus the Boeing plane.''

Smith said the deadline for sealing a definitive contract for the 747X was the end of June, but said a detailed memorandum of understanding (MOU) would probably pave the way for an earlier signing.

The 747X, Smith said, will allow FedEx to transport roughly 150 tonnes over a distance of 6,000 nautical miles. By comparison, the MD-11, which is the company's largest plane at present, has capacity for 80 tonnes and range of 4,000 nautical miles.

Smith, who declined to say how much FedEx was paying for the Boeing planes, said that performance guarantees on range and fuel burn were written into the MOU with Boeing.

Separately, Smith said FedEx would not be interested in purchasing an Boeing 777-200 freighter, a plane the Seattle-based manufacturer said last month it planned to launch soon, for several years.

This stuff is nothing. Do you see Boeing spending money designing pictures of the interior, etc.? No! When they do, but don't get a launch order, then I'll be satisfied. Remember that Airbus has been campaigning for this for at least 5 years now, and I even have a picture of a scale model showing that.
 
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Fred Smiths Comments

Fri Feb 09, 2001 6:43 am

There have been comments posted about Fred Smith and his comments in this article. While I work for a competitor I can honestly say Fred Smith can make something very bad look very good. He has some of the best people skills a person could have. He is a very good businessman. This guy likes to gamble and take risks though. In the early days of Fred Ex he had to take the payroll to Vegas and gamble it on blackjack just so he could meet the following weeks payroll. It worked! Then we had the Zap mail fiasco, it didn't. I am sure about one thing though, Fred Smith made sure he was protected with the A380 purchase. I'd bet that if the A380 works then it's great for Fed Ex and Airbus, if it doesn't then it's great still for Fed Ex but not for Airbus.
I guess we'll have to wait and see!
 
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RE: FedEx: "A380 Better Than 747 Stretch"

Fri Feb 09, 2001 6:45 am

I thought it was roulette.
 
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RE: FedEx: "A380 Better Than 747 Stretch"

Fri Feb 09, 2001 6:58 am

You guys are just ridiculous...

Oh damn, these Reuters french socialist bastards...

Sorry, but what's wrong with quoting statements from an CEO????

BTW, you all forget to end your posts with "BOEING RULEZ"!


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RE: FedEx: "A380 Better Than 747 Stretch"

Fri Feb 09, 2001 7:10 am

I personnally am more excited for the A380 then the 747X. The 747X is still a 747, and will always be a 747. Its just larger and an improvement over the 747-400, while the A380 is a totally new aircraft. Nothing like it yet, and it will be the first. Now vice versa.....IF the 747 was about to coming out, and Airbus was developing an improved A380 (A380X), I'd be more excited with the 747. Get what I'm saying? The A380 is something totally new, and will grab my attention more than a 747X.

Either way, I'd want both! I'm just stating which excites me more.

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RE: WN Boy

Fri Feb 09, 2001 7:26 am

Perhaps you're forgetting that UPS recently purchased a huge number of A300-600Fs. Your choices are now limited to Airborne Express, DHL etc.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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RE: FedEx: "A380 Better Than 747 Stretch"

Fri Feb 09, 2001 7:49 am

Even though I am not a fan of PAX A380, since day 1 I have stated that I think A380 is a perfect cargo plane for likes of UPS and Fed Ex.

For example, Fed Ex has about 8-10 flights daily out of SJC/Oak. These can be easily replaced by 1-2 A380 flights directly to overseas or to the hub in ANC.

Overall A380 is just too attractive of an offer for Fed Ex.

I am suprised that UPS has not yet follow suit.
 
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Cpdc1030

Fri Feb 09, 2001 8:02 am

Just Airborne, DHL flies the A300 also. Even the USPS will be using Fed Ex a300's to some extent

This is off topic who wants to take a stab at how long Airborne will remain in business?
Losing what marketshare they have left, majority of volume is U.S. Domestic which has dropped to single digit growth. No international network setup which international growth is growing at double digit numbers. Loads cargo through a passenger door which eliminates the ability to sell pallet space to freight forwarders. Tracking system that makes the US Postal Service look more technologically advanced than Microsoft. Rising fuel costs. Old fleet, they still fly DC-8 60 series with hush kits, DC-9's the onlt modern piece of equipment is converted 767-200's

Sorry to depress Airborne fans, Airborne lost my $600.00 monitor from Dell a few weeks ago. Tracking could only show me it made it to the airport and on the plane to Wilmington OH. This tracking result was posted to Airbornes website 4 days after I was to receive the package. I called to find out the problem they didn't know. Dell sent me a better monitor at the same cost as the original. Airborne still can't say what happened.

I guess I shouldn't post that because with UPS delivering over 14 million packages per day I'm sure there will be alot of UPS horror stories told  Smile
 
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RE: FedEx: "A380 Better Than 747 Stretch"

Fri Feb 09, 2001 8:32 am

When UPS lost my overnight package containing important materials, not only couldn't they tell me where it was, they frankly treated me like total crap. The best they could say was that I should wait, because sometimes they just turn up. While the technology (scanning, direct access from the internet) is impressive when things go well, it is stunning how just truly awful the folks in the package-finding and compensating groups are. It's like it's 2005 on the normal-customer-interaction channel, and 1945 when things get lost. I imagine some guy with a rotary dial phone wearing a green eyeshade saying "Who cares?" in several different ways. Customer service from the drivers is always impeccable, the web site is flawless, the operation is renowned, and when something is lost, it's like dealing with some guy on some loading dock somewhere. I *just couldn't believe* how bad it was. The package vaporized over a year ago, and has never been found. About 6 weeks after the incident, I finally received claim forms that were so extensive it wasn't worth my time to fill out. At least the USPS gives you the money back *in cash* with *zero* brain damage if the thing is late. Sorry for the rant, but that is one gaping abyss in the otherwise customer-friendly operation at UPS.

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RE: FedEx: "A380 Better Than 747 Stretch"

Fri Feb 09, 2001 9:55 am

No problem about the rant and sorry for your problems. There is a major problem with fraud unfortunately. While UPS does need to improve in the customer service department when these things happen. The bad thing is people try to rip off UPS alot, the people in these departments treat alot of people like they are ripping UPS off instead of reporting a legit claim.

I had some UPS stock sold and the bank sent the check via USPS and I live close to where there bank is located. 1 day delivery on first class mail. The check never showed, several calls to the postal service resultied in nothing, I would have to wait 30 days just to have the thing tracked. I called the bank, had a stop payment issued and told them to cut me another check and send it UPS Next Day Air. I had the check the next morning. 3 months later the other check arrived via the postal service. It goes to show you everybody makes mistakes.

Sorry back to aviation  Smile
 
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RE: FedEx: "A380 Better Than 747 Stretch"

Fri Feb 09, 2001 10:00 am

Wow, what a thing to say !!, this comes after the late CEO of Atlas says what 747X !!

Guys when you say from now on your using UPS, remember they just order 60 + 50 A300's. Which will be placed all over the world.
 
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RE: FedEx: "A380 Better Than 747 Stretch"

Fri Feb 09, 2001 2:47 pm

Actually, Airborne Express is doing well.

The reason is simple: they are NOT in the big package business that FedEx and UPS sometimes do. You have to remember that the vast majority of packages shipped by air express services are usually under 10 kg (22 lbs.).

Besides, ABX has developed a very amazing system to load their planes using pallets designed to fit through the standard passenger plane door. This saves ABX a LOT of money because you don't have to spend a massive amount of money to cut out the large freight door with its necessary structural strengthening neccessary for the modification.

For those who think NRT/KIX to MEM flights aren't a good idea with the A380F, you do forget that Japan is a massive exporter of electronic goods. That's why a flight direct from Japan to the FedEx MEM hub will be very useful for FedEx, and is one of the reasons why they've ordered the A380F.
 
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RE: FedEx: "A380 Better Than 747 Stretch"

Fri Feb 09, 2001 6:17 pm

F4N, you almost hit the nail on the head. What exactly is the CEO of a company supposed to say after comitting himself to any product. He's unlikely to say, "well actually we think the 747X will be better but we're gone take a chance on the 380".

Get real everyone, its just one mans opinion, not a newly discovered 11th Commandment. The proof will be in the pudding.

UPS Pilot, nice post, except that if we always went for the proven technology, I'd probably be flying to Spain next week on a Connie and not a 757, and quite frankly I'm glad I'm on the 757.
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RE: FedEx: "A380 Better Than 747 Stretch"

Fri Feb 09, 2001 9:05 pm

Actually in this month's Air Cargo World, Fed Ex CEO Fred Smith had stated the 747x capacity would be greater than the A380 if Fed EX used 10' cans.

Looking at the A380 freighter drawings, the upper deck on the left side, the cargo door looks as if it's over the front part of the wing. I hope it's just a typo error but these are Airbus photos. If it is the case then expect alot of damaged aircraft.
 
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RE: FedEx:

Sat Feb 10, 2001 5:01 pm

All I have to say is, good luck on them performance guaranties.

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Flight Decks Views from inside the cockpit

Aircraft Cabins Passenger cabin shots showing seat arrangements as well as cargo aircraft interior

Cargo Aircraft Pictures of great freighter aircraft

Government Aircraft Aircraft flying government officials

Helicopters Our large helicopter section. Both military and civil versions

Blimps / Airships Everything from the Goodyear blimp to the Zeppelin

Night Photos Beautiful shots taken while the sun is below the horizon

Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos