I haven't contributed much to the forum because of reasons I've stated before in other posts. One being how nasty
people can be in here. Before I go ahead with what I wanted to say, I'd like to explain a couple of things, since I am, in a way, coming to Boeings defense and I might be verbally attacked by one of the many fanatic 'to the death' Airbus fans. Since everything from not reviling my real name (at one point), my hair, eye color, where I live and/or even my nationality might be attacked and to blame, I'd like to put that out there
. My name is Ricardo Pellegrini, I'm thirty-something, brown hair/hazel eyes, born in Rome raised in Barcelona (there fore I am European) and have been living in Seattle for about 5-6 years. Also, I have no preference to either, I like all planes from the CBA-123 Vector, Caravel, MD-80, dc-10 B747/57/67/77/37/27 to all Airbus, Embraer, Bombardier, Tupolev, Illyushin and any others I've might have forgotten. With all that said, let's get to it.
1) As usual and frequently here at airliners.net someone keeps putting down Boeing, in particular, (seems to be now) the once loved 747. Now, we keep reading how old the design is, etc. etc. Same with the 737. It was one day on flight from Seattle to Boston on a new American 737-800, that I was reading a magazine. I believe it was Air International (?) (not sure, I'm sure one of you have read it). The article was about Airbus turning 30!! Happy birthday! Congrats and all that other good stuff. I decided to look back… and find info on my 'puter about Airbus' first jet. The A300, which emerged in 1968 and flew for the first time in 1972. I remember the first time I saw it. It was such a pretty bird. Anyhow, what I fail to see from any Boeing fans when the 47 or 37 is attacked about their age and what I never seen from an Airbus fanatic is the age of the Airbus design? I guess people don't to see it but minus a few engines here and there, new materials, redesigned wing, etc., the A340-600/500/300/200 A330-300/200 and even the A310 is derived from the good ol' 300. I mean the fuselage is the same except some changes and upgrades in the cockpits and new technology, the over all appearance of these jets are similar. So why is it okay for Airbus to do it, but when Boeing does, its too old ,30 year old design etc. Airbus is just as old. What's wrong with Boeing taking a proven airframe, updating it and possibly making it better (like they did with the 737NG)…nothing. Just because people are tired of they way it looks?
Same thing goes for the A320. Unless a new radical break through technology pops out anytime soon what do you think happens after the A320 gets too old? Build a whole new plane? No, most likely we will see an A320NG. It bothers me when I see these A vs. B and Boeing keep getting trashed and I find it unnecessary.
2) As I mentioned before I recently experienced an American 737-800 between Seattle and Boston with the more room in coach which was greatly appreciated. I've doing a lot of business traveling between Seattle and Boston, New York, Newark, Chicago, Minneapolis, Detroit, Las Vegas and Phoenix. Flying with American (7378), Continental (7378/7) and Northwest (A320s) and America West (A320s). Now this might be just my opinion but this so much praised (by Airbus and Airbus fans) wider cabin than the 737s might be a fact (what are we talking about though 3 inches?), but it is completely, totally, for me of course, unnoticeable! Except on Americans 'more leg room' coach there was no difference. Continentals 737NG, were just as comfortable as Northwest's and America West's A320s. I just didn't see the big advantage, not even in the aisle. Oh…just in case anyone wonders about my stats?: I am in good shape, my queer peers and other people in the States would call my type a 'gym bunny' or a 'muscle queen', I work out J . I stand 5'10" , 32" waist and have broad shoulders and big arm (hence the muscle queen label
) but whether it was a 737 or 320 I felt equally comfortable in both! With out fighting, does anyone feel the same? Or do you actually feel the difference 'cause I sure didn't.
3) Moving away from the controversial A vs. B let's go to all planes overall. Many say, that they way planes looks are getting rather old. A tube with two triangles coming out of the sides and triangle coming out of the rear top, is one way it has been describe. Bring the topic up of a proposed blended wing concept and people freak out! Oh my god no windows!!! THE HORROR!!!
Or you read comments like 'can you imagine going to an airport and all you'd see are wings?' and 'how would you apply a livery' etc. I'd like to know what is it that you'd like to see? Not like everybody could be satisfied but what would be an ideal aircraft for you? As we all know, except for the people who fly the planes, are in the industry or just love airliners like us, people in general don't know what's what! Unless the media exploits an aircraft after an accident like they've done with the MD-80, 737, and even the A320 after the Air France crash…. people don't care what plane it is or what type. As long as it gets them there safely, who cares.
Finally, I promise, with Airliners.net now being advertised on Airways magazine and I read something about CNN and being included in The Best Aviation Websites book, it's kind of sad to see the quality of the forums keep going down. New members join every day and there are more to come. What I don't understand is how (especially) older members (400 days + or since A.net came to life and never logged off) sometimes completely ignore the forums rules, bash other members and complain that a topic has been discussed too many times. Well, that's your fault if you spend every day in here. They might not know about the search button but sometimes this doesn't even help with all the varieties of post titles. Older members can sometimes throw this cocky attitude as if they own the forum because they've been here longer.
Have the forum rules been scrapped? This goes for newer members as well. All you read any more are insults and constant attacks with no shame. Some would say, 'If you don't like it don't read it' but how can you know? With all the misleading topics titles, you or I won't know if we like it until you open the thread and read the first few lines. I can only imagine what people in the industry think or say about the stuff that goes in here. Fights over who's better A or B and CRJ or ERJ… and countless amounts of misinformed post…I guess they laugh out loud, like I do most of the times. Yes, this is a forum where you can chat about rumors and what aircraft you prefer, but I suggest reading the forums rules one more time or for the first time for obviously many of you. I don't know. It seems that it has become more of a popularity contest in here. From how long they've been a member, to how many post they've contributed and who has the most names in the 'respected by' feature in your profile. At first I though this feature was cute but quickly saw how ugly it turned out to be.
Johan has a great site here. What do you say we bring back some quality into these forums and start respecting each other. Like somebody once said "Can't we all just get along?" Because I think most of us are mature enough to have serious conversations without insulting each other.
Peace & Love
Alright bring it on!