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N400QX
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NW Pulling DC10s Out Of SEA Already?

Sun May 06, 2001 1:36 pm

I could have sworn that I saw a Northwest 742 departing SEA on Tuesday morning at seven-ish. So has the DC10 pull-out been done? I haven't had a chance to go down to the airport and see the South Satellite's occupants, but it looks like its happened.

I also noted that the flight times are different. Usually I am prompted to leave home for school every morning by the house-shaking NW DC10, but that obviously isn't happening anymore.

Any confirmations?
 
chrisair
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RE: NW Pulling DC10s Out Of SEA Already?

Sun May 06, 2001 1:42 pm

I just flew a NW D10 MSP-SEA on MAR 28. The 74 you saw was probably going west, or was a sub-in for a D10. As far as I know, the DC-10's have atleast 3 years, if not more for NW.

 
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RE: NW Pulling DC10s Out Of SEA Already?

Sun May 06, 2001 2:23 pm

The 742's are usually used from SEA-NRT, while the 10's are put on the SEA-KIX route.
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RE: NW Pulling DC10s Out Of SEA Already?

Sun May 06, 2001 2:46 pm

Yeah, I had a relative who flew NW SEA-HNL on a DC-10 not long ago. Hopefully the 7 hour mechanical delay she encountered was a result of the labor dispute and not the aircraft!
 
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RE: NW Pulling DC10s Out Of SEA Already?

Sun May 06, 2001 2:52 pm

Well I flew a NW DC10 from Amsterdam to SEA a few months ago and sat in an emergency exit row. There was freezing air coming in from around where I sat, and once we got lower water leaked from the overhead panel thing (must've been frozen earlier). All in all it was rather pathetic. I hope they get rid of them, SOON.
 
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RE: NW Pulling DC10s Out Of SEA Already?

Sun May 06, 2001 3:37 pm

Yeah, I know that the DC10s have been here as recently as two weeks ago, but all of a sudden I have stopped noticing them. I also know that the 10s'll be with NW for quite a while, but I remember reading a couple months ago that they will begin replacing SEA's DC10s with 742s and the DC10s will start flying out of cities like SAN.

 
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RE: NW Pulling DC10s Out Of SEA Already?

Mon May 07, 2001 1:55 am

NW needs to take delivery of its A333 and B753 aircraft before the DC10 retirement program begins; none of these newly ordered aircraft have yet to be delivered so the DC10s will be around for a while. We see many, many DC10s in AMS everyday.

I agree that the interiors of the NW DC10s are looking a bit "sad" and are in need of an upgrade, unlikely since they shall be leaving the fleet. I think CO's DC10s, which are of the same age, look far better inside at this point.
 
chrisair
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RE: NW Pulling DC10s Out Of SEA Already?

Mon May 07, 2001 2:40 am

I didn't think the interior on N145US was that bad. A fairly good amount of legroom, not quite like Delta's M11s in coach, but for the MSP-SEA flight it was enough to survive. I don't like NW's service much though. One would think that there would be 2 drink services on a 3.4 hr flight. I guess I was spoiled on Delta. Regarding exit rows, that's a common expirience to have air blow in, although I've never had condensation leak down.

I really doubt that a D10 will be in San Diego....

 
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RE: NW Pulling DC10s Out Of SEA Already?

Mon May 07, 2001 3:21 am

The DC-10's wont start going until the A330's arrive. NW will probably do what CO is doing and retire one DC-10 for every new widebody that is delivered.
 
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RE: NW Pulling DC10s Out Of SEA Already?

Mon May 07, 2001 3:28 am

Once upon a time, around 1984 or 85, Northwest Orient flew DC-10s to SAN from LAX. That service ended a long time ago. It would be nice to see the DC-10s in SAN again, but it's unlikely. Northwest brings in 757s every now and then, but usually replaces them with A320s after a while. And then the A320s get replaced by 757s and the cycle repeats itself...

SAN's only visiting DC-10s are freighters, but Hawaiian begins daily passenger DC-10 service to Honalulu next month.
 
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RE: NW Pulling DC10s Out Of SEA Already?

Mon May 07, 2001 3:32 am

Again, I realize that NW isn't retiring the DC10 yet.

But what I do realize is that more and more of the NW flights from SEA are 742 aircraft and I read a month or two ago that they will eventually begin replacing SEA DC10 flights with 742s. The DC10s, I read, will go elsewhere.

I'll have to go look up where I read that and post it...
 
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RE: NW Pulling DC10s Out Of SEA Already?

Mon May 07, 2001 4:20 am

The DC10s are leaving as early as this fall. They are being retired before they need heavy maintanence.

Then the 757-300s will start retring the DC10-40s early next year, and the DC10-30s will go to A330s in early 2003. A few of the lowest time -30s will stay around for HNL etc.

ALL DC10s have had new interiors within the last 2 years, so I doubt they are looking tired and the ones I have been on recently looked good.

I flew a CO DC10 not to long ago and the interiors were comparable, actually NW had a slight edge.

However, I doubt NW will pump much money into aircraft that will be gone soon. Why would they?

As far as the orginal question, I don't think they are already pulling out the DC10s. It may have been an equipment sub for a DC10.
 
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RE: NW Pulling DC10s Out Of SEA Already?

Mon May 07, 2001 12:00 pm

Hmmm...we could see the DC10's in SAN again, but I don't think it will be for another year or two. Northwest is currently adding capacity at SAN, not only I think increasing the number of 757s that replace A320s in the summer but adding another flight to DTW.

N400QX: Do you remember where you saw this info about the DC-10s?

Aaron G.
 
N400QX
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RE: NW Pulling DC10s Out Of SEA Already?

Mon May 07, 2001 12:21 pm

Yeah- it was right here on the forums about three months ago (I think). If I remember correctly, you participated in the thread as well, but I can't locate it in the archives. Hmmm...
 
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lindy field
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RE: NW Pulling DC10s Out Of SEA Already?

Mon May 07, 2001 12:25 pm

Trvlr,

I doubt Northwest will be flying DC-10s to San Diego.(Just a hunch) I suppose there is a chance that we might see their 757-300s at some point, though. Did you ever find any info about Sun Country leaving the San Diego market? Could it be that Northwest is expanding in San Diego at their expense?

Lindy of the Field

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