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directorguy wrote:Sometimes it's not the flight itself that makes the trip 'miserable' but rather the pre-flight experience (commute to airport, check-in, security etc) that makes it terrible.
StTim wrote:In general we have got bigger, seats have got smaller and all flights are non smoking so now the smoke does not obscure "other" body odours and emissions.
masgniw wrote:StTim wrote:In general we have got bigger, seats have got smaller and all flights are non smoking so now the smoke does not obscure "other" body odours and emissions.
This is the first time I've ever heard someone argue the move to all non-smoking cabins has made air travel worse.
StTim wrote:masgniw wrote:StTim wrote:In general we have got bigger, seats have got smaller and all flights are non smoking so now the smoke does not obscure "other" body odours and emissions.
This is the first time I've ever heard someone argue the move to all non-smoking cabins has made air travel worse.
There are many many bad things about smoking - and I for one would not want to go back to those days. Remember waking up and you and your clothes stank of smoke. I was just pointing out that smoke, which we were all accustomed to, covered certain other odours which are now more obvious.
usflyer123 wrote:YYZ-ATH on AC rouge is terrible. 11 hour flight without any tv or anything to do on the plane and the seats are super cramped.
also NK flights are terrible with the 28 inch chairs(!).
Shuttle12T wrote:Earlier this year, a flight that I was looking forward to was my first flight on a Fokker 70 with KLM, FRA-AMS. Started off at FRA T2, cleared security with about 2hrs prior to departure to find one of the worst terminals I've ever been to, a coffee shop, a newsagent and a duty free store with zero view of the outside world. The flight itself was fine until it was announced that poor weather in AMS was restricting arrivals so we would slow down and enter a holding pattern, my original 1hr connection was pretty much halved and whilst I knew missing it would simply result in a rebooking and a few hours wait I really didn't fancy waiting the 4 hours til the next flight. In the end I made the connection but it became a fairly stressful experience.
Armodeen wrote:Malay gentleman, who pretended not to speak English
GregB145 wrote:the normal African buffoonery of customs, passport stamping and a heated discussion [...] fat seat mate not only smelt like he was clad in decomposing badgers, but he was also trying to stuff a bloody block of frozen fish around the size of a box of A4 paper into the overhead. I discovered this when it started to rain on me [...] a typical West African temper tantrum [...] badly fitting suit and "Oakey" sunglasses [...] cake and arse party being held on the pan whilst the two el Presidente's and their entourage talked bollocks.
Viscount724 wrote:usflyer123 wrote:YYZ-ATH on AC rouge is terrible. 11 hour flight without any tv or anything to do on the plane and the seats are super cramped.
also NK flights are terrible with the 28 inch chairs(!).
Schedule shows 9:40 YYZ-ATH eastbound, not 11 hrs. Block time is 11 hrs westbound. Many people would prefer that nonstop to at least 2 or 3 hours longer with a connection in Europe and more risk of delays, strikes, baggage going astray etc.