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caflyboy
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Cities with Hubs that are no longer here

Sun Aug 14, 2016 3:22 am

I wonder what city has had the most hubs that are no longer here today? Here are some that I came up with and wondered what others there are. I am excluding commuter carriers that were then brought under a major airlines code through codesharing:

ATL: EA, Air Atlanta, Kiwi, Air South, Southern, Piedmont, TWA,United, Capital
BWI: PI,US
BNA: AA
ALB: MO?
EWR: PE(To CO)
BOS: NW,DL,NE(taken over by DL)
PIT: UA,US, Capital
DCA: Capital, NW(Focus), PI
PHL: Midway(2), Altair, EA, American International, US(Now AA)
IAD: Independence Air, Presidential, CO, NY,
CLT: EA, PI (To Us to AA)
GSO: Eastwind, CO
CLE: CO, US, UA, Capital, Lake Central
CVG:DL, Lake Central
IND: ATA, NW (focus), US(Focus)
CMH: Skybus, HP, Lake Central,
DAY: PI
MEM: C&S(to DL), DL,So (to RC), RC (to NW), NW, DL again
MSY: Pride AIr, CO (focus), National
DFW: BN, BN2, TI,DL
IAH: National (To Pan AM), PA, TI(To CO)
RDU: NY, MI2, AA
MCO: QH(focus), DL, Focus, US (Focus), PI(to US),BN2
TPA:National, QH (Focus)
MIA: PA, QH, National
STL: OZ(TO TW), TW(to AA) AA
MCI: EA, Vanguard, Braniff, Braniff 2, Central, US(Focus)
DEN: FL(ToCO),WA (Focus), Western Pac
COS: Western Pacific
MSP: WA(Focus) Mid Continent, NC(To RC to NW to DL)
DTW: NC(to RC to NW)To DL
MKE: F9, Midwest Express, NC to RC, RC, NW (Focus)
PHX: Bonanza (To HW to RW), RC
LAS: HP, National 2, Sunworld, Reno (Focus)
SAN: PSA(TO US), US
SNA: OC(to AA), AA
SJC: AA, QQ, OC
SFO: PS, Pacific (To HW to RW,)RC
PDX: West coast(to RW to RC) RC
SLC: Morris Air, WA (to DL)

I am sure there are a lot more. I'm just trying to list them up by city.
 
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Re: Cities with Hubs that are no longer here

Sun Aug 14, 2016 6:03 am

COS and Western Pacific (Simpsons!)
 
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Re: Cities with Hubs that are no longer here

Sun Aug 14, 2016 8:06 am

Maybe.....

DAL - Muse, Legend Airlines, TransTexas (became Texas Int'l)
DFW - Texas International (merged with CO)
HOU - Muse (changed to TranStar)
IAH - Texas International (merged with CO)
 
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Re: Cities with Hubs that are no longer here

Tue Aug 16, 2016 7:00 pm

PDX- DL, Air West to RW
 
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Re: Cities with Hubs that are no longer here

Tue Aug 16, 2016 8:39 pm

SYR -UR to PI to US
Add to TPA- PI/US (Created as a hub w/PI and retained for a short while after merger by US)
 
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Re: Cities with Hubs that are no longer here

Wed Aug 17, 2016 7:28 am

DET- Proair
MDW - ML(1and 2), ATA
SEA/DEN - Markair
ANC- WIen
HNL- AQ
 
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Re: Cities with Hubs that are no longer here

Wed Aug 17, 2016 5:06 pm

Don"t forget RENO AIR AT RENO

QQ at RNO
 
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Re: Cities with Hubs that are no longer here

Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:10 am

caflyboy wrote:
I wonder what city has had the most hubs that are no longer here today? Here are some that I came up with and wondered what others there are. I am excluding commuter carriers that were then brought under a major airlines code through codesharing:

ATL: EA, Air Atlanta, Kiwi, Air South, Southern, Piedmont, TWA,United, Capital
BWI: PI,US
BNA: AA
ALB: MO?
EWR: PE(To CO)
BOS: NW,DL,NE(taken over by DL)
PIT: UA,US, Capital
DCA: Capital, NW(Focus), PI
PHL: Midway(2), Altair, EA, American International, US(Now AA)
IAD: Independence Air, Presidential, CO, NY,
CLT: EA, PI (To Us to AA)
GSO: Eastwind, CO
CLE: CO, US, UA, Capital, Lake Central
CVG:DL, Lake Central
IND: ATA, NW (focus), US(Focus)
CMH: Skybus, HP, Lake Central,
DAY: PI
MEM: C&S(to DL), DL,So (to RC), RC (to NW), NW, DL again
MSY: Pride AIr, CO (focus), National
DFW: BN, BN2, TI,DL
IAH: National (To Pan AM), PA, TI(To CO)
RDU: NY, MI2, AA
MCO: QH(focus), DL, Focus, US (Focus), PI(to US),BN2
TPA:National, QH (Focus)
MIA: PA, QH, National
STL: OZ(TO TW), TW(to AA) AA
MCI: EA, Vanguard, Braniff, Braniff 2, Central, US(Focus)
DEN: FL(ToCO),WA (Focus), Western Pac
COS: Western Pacific
MSP: WA(Focus) Mid Continent, NC(To RC to NW to DL)
DTW: NC(to RC to NW)To DL
MKE: F9, Midwest Express, NC to RC, RC, NW (Focus)
PHX: Bonanza (To HW to RW), RC
LAS: HP, National 2, Sunworld, Reno (Focus)
SAN: PSA(TO US), US
SNA: OC(to AA), AA
SJC: AA, QQ, OC
SFO: PS, Pacific (To HW to RW,)RC
PDX: West coast(to RW to RC) RC
SLC: Morris Air, WA (to DL)

I am sure there are a lot more. I'm just trying to list them up by city.


CVG is still a DL hub.

CVG: OH (As seperate carrier), Enterprise, AA (Dismantled in Late 40's, I really do not know much detail about it)
LUK: AA (Mini-hub in 30's, in-flight meals made at the airport)
BOS: OH (As separate carrier)
MCO: OH (As separate carrier), DL
MCI: F9
MDW: F9 (Focus)
 
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Re: Cities with Hubs that are no longer here

Fri Oct 14, 2016 4:17 pm

Midwest Express at one time considered OMA a hub (from about 1995 to 2002), although I don't believe they offered connections there. That got moved to MCI, of course, and as mentioned above, continued as a hub for Frontier for a while.
 
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Re: Cities with Hubs that are no longer here

Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:26 pm

Las Vegas: National Airlines and the night flight hub of America West.
San Jose, CA: AA hub for a few years.
 
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Re: Cities with Hubs that are no longer here

Fri Oct 28, 2016 3:13 am

INT (Winston-Salem, NC) - Piedmont
 
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Re: Cities with Hubs that are no longer here

Fri Oct 28, 2016 9:52 am

Guys, just to give a bit of "international flavor" to an otherwise very boring, very domestic, kind of laundry list....
Brussels (SN), Milan MXP (AZ), London LGW (BR) (DA) (AE), Athens (OA), Clermont-Ferrand (Regional Airlines), Nice (Air Littoral), Timisoara (Carpatair)...

Sometimes I really do struggle with the fact that this forum is so blindly US-centric....
 
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Re: Cities with Hubs that are no longer here

Sun Nov 06, 2016 5:58 pm

Milan MXP was also hub to Lufthansa Italia and arguably Meridiana. The former is defunct. The latter now has a focus city. Although it is now a Ryanair hub.
 
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Re: Cities with Hubs that are no longer here

Thu Nov 17, 2016 6:27 am

oldannyboy wrote:
Guys, just to give a bit of "international flavor" to an otherwise very boring, very domestic, kind of laundry list....
Brussels (SN), Milan MXP (AZ), London LGW (BR) (DA) (AE), Athens (OA), Clermont-Ferrand (Regional Airlines), Nice (Air Littoral), Timisoara (Carpatair)...


Brussels is still very much the hub for SN. Unless by "SN" you mean Sabena, in which case you are sort of right because there is no more Sabena, but the successor, Brussels Airlines, stil has its hub in Brussels. And if you add Sabena in BRU then you should also add Swissair in Zurich (hub) and Geneva (focus), despite the successor company to Swissair, Swiss, still having its hub in Zurich.

Other examples (caution American readers, these are from outer space):

Basel: Crossair, where even the successor company (Swiss, the new LX), does not fly there anymore
Vienna: Lauda Air, which was merged into Austrian, but Austrian still has its hub in Vienna
Budapest: Malev, now defunct
Munich: no more an AB hub
Nuremberg: no more an AB hub
Dusseldorf: no longer an LTU hub, but the successor company, AB, still has its hub there
Birmingham: was a BA hub in the 1990s
Toulouse, Bordeaux: were mini hubs for Air France in the past, as "iberian hubs"
Moscow DME: Transaero, now defunct. There also was another carrier that was a conglomerate of several airlines, including Krasair I believe, that was hubbing at DME, which is now defunct
Delhi and Mumbai: KIngfisher, Modiluft
Sydney: Ansett

There are a myriad of other airports that have "lost" their hub status simply because the airline disappeared (Interflug, Balkan Bulgarian, Air Afrique, plenty of other African carriers that are now defunct...) or that are still hubs but for a reincarnation or merged version of an airline that existed previously (JAT, now Air Serbia, in Belgrade; Olympic, now Aegean, in Athens; Belair, now Air Berlin, in Zurich; FlyBaboo became Darwin which became Etihad Regional, still in Geneva; etc)


Sometimes I really do struggle with the fact that this forum is so blindly US-centric....


Waddaya mean, there are other countries??? They must be full of bad hombres
 
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Re: Cities with Hubs that are no longer here

Thu Nov 17, 2016 8:26 am

mozart wrote:
oldannyboy wrote:
Guys, just to give a bit of "international flavor" to an otherwise very boring, very domestic, kind of laundry list....
Brussels (SN), Milan MXP (AZ), London LGW (BR) (DA) (AE), Athens (OA), Clermont-Ferrand (Regional Airlines), Nice (Air Littoral), Timisoara (Carpatair)...


Brussels is still very much the hub for SN. Unless by "SN" you mean Sabena, in which case you are sort of right because there is no more Sabena, but the successor, Brussels Airlines, stil has its hub in Brussels. And if you add Sabena in BRU then you should also add Swissair in Zurich (hub) and Geneva (focus), despite the successor company to Swissair, Swiss, still having its hub in Zurich.

Other examples ([color=#FF0080]caution American readers, these are from outer space):[/color]


Sometimes I really do struggle with the fact that this forum is so blindly US-centric....


[color=#FF0080]Waddaya mean, there are other countries??? They must be full of bad hombres

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