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Will Pan Am EVER fly the Concorde to BTV?

Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:06 pm

I'm wondering if Pan Am would ever consider flying the Concorde to a place like Burlington?

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Re: Will Pan Am EVER fly the Concorde to BTV?

Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:09 pm

Had to check my calendar.....but it is not April Fools Day
 
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Re: Will Pan Am EVER fly the Concorde to BTV?

Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:15 pm

zrs70 wrote:
I'm wondering if Pan Am would ever consider flying the Concorde to a place like Burlington?)


Alas, the runway is too short.

On the plus side, Pan Am does operate a daily Orion III service from Burlington to Space Station V.
 
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Re: Will Pan Am EVER fly the Concorde to BTV?

Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:16 pm

Oh they didn't but I'm sure CO almost flew Concordes on EWR-BTV! Will UA start it?
 
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Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:26 pm

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Re: Will Pan Am EVER fly the Concorde to BTV?

Wed Sep 21, 2016 12:41 am

Problem is all those damn crunchy granola NIMBY types in Vermont. They put the kibosh on that. As a result, the best that Pan Am can do from LGA is a 707, old style not even upgraded, with no PTVs.
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Re: Will Pan Am EVER fly the Concorde to BTV?

Wed Sep 21, 2016 1:01 am

No but HP flew the L2000 from Phoenix to Yuma.
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Re: Will Pan Am EVER fly the Concorde to BTV?

Wed Sep 21, 2016 1:05 am

Bernie Sanders' Cinnamon Roll Revolution would never permit it.
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Re: Will Pan Am EVER fly the Concorde to BTV?

Wed Sep 21, 2016 1:15 am

IDK, but there's talk United may close their intergalactic hub on Europa because of self-competition with their Io hub.
 
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Re: Will Pan Am EVER fly the Concorde to BTV?

Wed Sep 21, 2016 1:47 am

enilria wrote:
IDK, but there's talk United may close their intergalactic hub on Europa because of self-competition with their Io hub.

Typical UA move, Europa is such much more pleasant to connect in than Io so of course they are getting rid of it. UA doesn't even seem to care that DL is crushing them with their Ganymede hub.
 
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Re: Will Pan Am EVER fly the Concorde to BTV?

Wed Sep 21, 2016 2:06 am

Stitch wrote:
zrs70 wrote:
I'm wondering if Pan Am would ever consider flying the Concorde to a place like Burlington?)


Alas, the runway is too short.

On the plus side, Pan Am does operate a daily Orion III service from Burlington to Space Station V.


They did that until FA started to complain about the velcro shoes and mandatory pillow helmets.
 
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Re: Will Pan Am EVER fly the Concorde to BTV?

Wed Sep 21, 2016 2:17 am

Only if Aérospatiale restarts production with a Concorde neo. Do they still have the tooling?
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Re: Will Pan Am EVER fly the Concorde to BTV?

Wed Sep 21, 2016 2:36 am

hOMSaR wrote:
Only if Aérospatiale restarts production with a Concorde neo. Do they still have the tooling?


I think NASA stole their parts to allegedly build a Space Shuttle neo, but they're going to need more than a couple of Snecma's to get that thing out of the garage. If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 17,500 mph, you're going to see some serious shit.
 
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Re: Will Pan Am EVER fly the Concorde to BTV?

Wed Sep 21, 2016 2:47 am

Polot wrote:
enilria wrote:
IDK, but there's talk United may close their intergalactic hub on Europa because of self-competition with their Io hub.

Typical UA move, Europa is such much more pleasant to connect in than Io so of course they are getting rid of it. UA doesn't even seem to care that DL is crushing them with their Ganymede hub.

Let's be fair, ever since they dropped the perimeter rule preventing service to the outer planets from Ganymede, it was naturally going to hurt Europa the most. I just wonder if the noise abatement lobby ends up screwing this plan by denying a second hyperdrive launch bay in Io orbit.
 
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Re: Will Pan Am EVER fly the Concorde to BTV?

Wed Sep 21, 2016 3:07 am

Does anybody know how the Newark-Io flights are doing? I heard that they had to block off some seats because they were pretty close to their MTOW for such a long flight.

enilria wrote:
IDK, but there's talk United may close their intergalactic hub on Europa because of self-competition with their Io hub.


I think there was too much competition on the Europa flights after American launched nonstop Enterprise service from Europa to DFW, ORD, and LAX. I think the only way UA can make it work is by ordering the ultra-long haul 797LRX, which I heard has a max range of just under 400,000,000 miles, just enough to make the flight nonstop. I'll try out the new Polaris seat on my next intergalactic mileage run and write a TR on it soon.
 
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Re: Will Pan Am EVER fly the Concorde to BTV?

Wed Sep 21, 2016 3:13 am

Polot wrote:
enilria wrote:
IDK, but there's talk United may close their intergalactic hub on Europa because of self-competition with their Io hub.

Typical UA move, Europa is such much more pleasant to connect in than Io so of course they are getting rid of it. UA doesn't even seem to care that DL is crushing them with their Ganymede hub.


a more typical UA move would be to send ERJ145XR across the atlantic. They would certainly try it if they had the range :lol:
 
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Re: Will Pan Am EVER fly the Concorde to BTV?

Wed Sep 21, 2016 3:17 am

enilria wrote:
Polot wrote:
enilria wrote:
IDK, but there's talk United may close their intergalactic hub on Europa because of self-competition with their Io hub.

Typical UA move, Europa is such much more pleasant to connect in than Io so of course they are getting rid of it. UA doesn't even seem to care that DL is crushing them with their Ganymede hub.

Let's be fair, ever since they dropped the perimeter rule preventing service to the outer planets from Ganymede, it was naturally going to hurt Europa the most. I just wonder if the noise abatement lobby ends up screwing this plan by denying a second hyperdrive launch bay in Io orbit.


Wait a minute! I thought the problem was the android stewards and stewardesses from new UA were angry because they were not getting their share of the new routes to Ganymede which were reserved for the pre-UA R2 units. The older beeper units and the androids could never agree on a new contract with management, so the androids started tearing down the 'bleeping beeping old iron' to passengers, and the R2's responded by beeping about the 'out-of-date virus filled descendants of Jellybean' androids. In response both sides started playing around with the other's recharge systems and the quality of service rapidly ran down to unacceptable levels, so irritated passengers went elsewhere.
 
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Re: Will Pan Am EVER fly the Concorde to BTV?

Wed Sep 21, 2016 3:28 am

Will Delta buy the International Space Station when it's retired?
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Re: Will Pan Am EVER fly the Concorde to BTV?

Wed Sep 21, 2016 3:39 am

KTPAFlyer wrote:
Does anybody know how the Newark-Io flights are doing? I heard that they had to block off some seats because they were pretty close to their MTOW for such a long flight.


Aries Ic is supposed to have a higher MLOW (Maximum Lift Off Weight) than the Aries Ib so that should hopefully mean that they no longer block out seats.
 
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Wed Sep 21, 2016 3:52 am

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Re: Will Pan Am EVER fly the Concorde to BTV?

Wed Sep 21, 2016 3:56 am

I guess these are the types of threads to expect since Demand Media is not charging to join this forum anymore...
 
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Re: Will Pan Am EVER fly the Concorde to BTV?

Wed Sep 21, 2016 3:59 am

PHLapproach wrote:
I guess these are the types of threads to expect since Demand Media is not charging to join this forum anymore...


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Re: Will Pan Am EVER fly the Concorde to BTV?

Wed Sep 21, 2016 4:03 am

hOMSaR wrote:
Will Delta buy the International Space Station when it's retired?


Yeah, but only if they get it on a heavy discount- we're talking just a few billion for a mildly used space station, although I don't think it comes equipped with oxygen, Delta will probably have to fork out some extra money to pressurize it with all that money they made off of those exhorbiant baggage fees during the space travel season.
 
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Re: Will Pan Am EVER fly the Concorde to BTV?

Wed Sep 21, 2016 4:06 am

Best thread since the software conversion!!! Love. It!
 
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Re: Will Pan Am EVER fly the Concorde to BTV?

Wed Sep 21, 2016 4:09 am

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No but HP flew the L2000 from Phoenix to Yuma.

I hear NW is having a hard time filling their 2707s on their new DTW-AMS flights. Might cut it to 5x weekly.
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Re: Will Pan Am EVER fly the Concorde to BTV?

Wed Sep 21, 2016 4:13 am

People are having fun with this thread. I think it's a great idea and I'm going to let it stand.
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Re: Will Pan Am EVER fly the Concorde to BTV?

Wed Sep 21, 2016 4:16 am

It's funny to look back and see how in 2016, people thought Virgin Galactic and SpaceX were going to be the future. The folks at DL, AA, and UA must be laughing all the way to the bank after the trillions they made last quarter. Too bad we don't even have LCC's to Mars, let alone Jupiter! I think Bombardier is working on the Sseries so that LCC can get in the game. Somebody get Allegiant on the phone...

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Re: Will Pan Am EVER fly the Concorde to BTV?

Wed Sep 21, 2016 4:24 am

PHLapproach wrote:
I guess these are the types of threads to expect since Demand Media is not charging to join this forum anymore...


Considering that the guy who started the thread has been active for 16 years I guess the correlation you imply is not totally valid.
 
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Re: Will Pan Am EVER fly the Concorde to BTV?

Wed Sep 21, 2016 4:28 am

This is the best thread ever! Haven't laughed like this in a long time...
 
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Re: Will Pan Am EVER fly the Concorde to BTV?

Wed Sep 21, 2016 4:30 am

The title of this thread is very misleading and I think it should be changed. We all know the Concorde no longer flies so it would be impossible for Pan Am to operate it on its BTV-Heathrow route...
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Re: Will Pan Am EVER fly the Concorde to BTV?

Wed Sep 21, 2016 4:32 am

I read that the some used TU-44s are going to DL for TATL flights.
 
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Re: Will Pan Am EVER fly the Concorde to BTV?

Wed Sep 21, 2016 4:39 am

KrustyTheKlown wrote:
PHLapproach wrote:
I guess these are the types of threads to expect since Demand Media is not charging to join this forum anymore...


Considering that the guy who started the thread has been active for 16 years I guess the correlation you imply is not totally valid.


I stand corrected. I guess I'm still expecting troll mania to happen one of these days when it's figured out you can get a free account now. Have you taken a look at any other sites comment sections lately :roll:
 
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Re: Will Pan Am EVER fly the Concorde to BTV?

Wed Sep 21, 2016 4:44 am

ikolkyo wrote:
I read that the some used TU-44s are going to DL for TATL flights.


Forget Delta, JetBlue is going TATL with their mint A321's. What's going to happen to the "Even more space seats?"
 
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Re: Will Pan Am EVER fly the Concorde to BTV?

Wed Sep 21, 2016 4:47 am

PHLapproach wrote:
KrustyTheKlown wrote:
PHLapproach wrote:
I guess these are the types of threads to expect since Demand Media is not charging to join this forum anymore...


Considering that the guy who started the thread has been active for 16 years I guess the correlation you imply is not totally valid.


I stand corrected. I guess I'm still expecting troll mania to happen one of these days when it's figured out you can get a free account now. Have you taken a look at any other sites comment sections lately :roll:


Honestly, I think it's a change for the better, because it allows people to discuss a wider variety of topics, and it's ok to have a fun thread like this every now and then.
 
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Re: Will Pan Am EVER fly the Concorde to BTV?

Wed Sep 21, 2016 4:49 am

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Only if Aérospatiale restarts production with a Concorde neo. Do they still have the tooling?


Unless they get the range up to 4000 miles, no one will want it - they will just keep flying their 757s.

Any chance of sculpting the sidewalls so you can get 5 across?
 
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Re: Will Pan Am EVER fly the Concorde to BTV?

Wed Sep 21, 2016 5:03 am

I demand SJC-EUR (Europa). I'm sick of driving another 50 miles past SJC for a 365,000,000 mile flight!
 
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Re: Will Pan Am EVER fly the Concorde to BTV?

Wed Sep 21, 2016 5:07 am

ADent wrote:
hOMSaR wrote:
Only if Aérospatiale restarts production with a Concorde neo. Do they still have the tooling?


Unless they get the range up to 4000 miles, no one will want it - they will just keep flying their 757s.

Any chance of sculpting the sidewalls so you can get 5 across?


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Re: Will Pan Am EVER fly the Concorde to BTV?

Wed Sep 21, 2016 5:13 am

Boeing just released the MoM will be able to do the Kessel Run in faster than 12 parsecs. Meanwhile Airbus is buildING the A3800000000 death*er I mean life*star.
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Re: Will Pan Am EVER fly the Concorde to BTV?

Wed Sep 21, 2016 5:30 am

Ryanair were all set to start flights to Tritan but MOL baulked at not being able to charge for space suits
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Wed Sep 21, 2016 5:31 am

TWA772LR wrote:
Boeing just released the MoM will be able to do the Kessel Run in faster than 12 parsecs. Meanwhile Airbus is buildING the A3800000000 death*er I mean life*star.


...And of course many airlines will hold press releases saying they're buying a ton of the "yuge" new Airbus, but in the end it'll end up being a niche aircraft only operated by a handful of carriers except for EK who'll have a 100+ strong fleet based at the new DWC - Dubai World (literal) Central airport.

However the Martians will complain of unfair business practices because EK gets government financing and the Neptunians will only allow them to serve one moon only so they don't harm Air Neptune.
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Re: Will Pan Am EVER fly the Concorde to BTV?

Wed Sep 21, 2016 5:36 am

I hear MKE is next in line to get Pan Am's Concorde service.
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Re: Will Pan Am EVER fly the Concorde to BTV?

Wed Sep 21, 2016 7:08 am

hOMSaR wrote:
Will Delta buy the International Space Station when it's retired?


I don't see how they could monetize it, but then again, they seem to be having wonderful success with that small subfleet of Boeing 247s that they picked up from the Smithsonian.

There were some rumors that Delta would be suspending service on the Tycho City, Luna to Titan run, and running that on a codeshare with Virgin Galactic. Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that quite a bit of Titan service was cut back after they found 9M-MRO at the L3 Lagrange point, orbiting Titan?
 
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Re: Will Pan Am EVER fly the Concorde to BTV?

Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:13 am

I heard that you must use TOGA in these cases and divert to either Ashgabat, Baku or Detroit.

OpenSkies has been rumored to start a new route. Newark to Bishkek utilizing an all business configuration 747-8 with stops in Asuncion Paraguay and Detroit. Line Captain David Dik Dalek
 
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Re: Will Pan Am EVER fly the Concorde to BTV?

Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:17 am

What about Newark to St Barts using an Airbus A340-500 ? TOGA and if the weather is bad divert to Asmara, Islamabad or Urumqi?
 
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Re: Will Pan Am EVER fly the Concorde to BTV?

Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:17 am

KTPAFlyer wrote:
I think NASA stole their parts to allegedly build a Space Shuttle neo, but they're going to need more than a couple of Snecma's to get that thing out of the garage. If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 17,500 mph, you're going to see some serious shit.


Will Challenger will be repaired or written off?
 
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Re: Will Pan Am EVER fly the Concorde to BTV?

Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:22 am

I think it's time PaAm start looking for ar Tu144 replacement and still many Concordes around so indeed an opportunity here.


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Re: Will Pan Am EVER fly the Concorde to BTV?

Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:33 am

In a bold step Copenhagen Suborbital has finished converting the decommissioned danish submarine fleet to the Daleth Drive. Travel to all planets will be offered soon in a cooperation with Virgin Galactic.

Virgin Galactic press officer Harry Harrison offered that VG would aid CS in managing the tourist aspect of interplanetary travel.
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Re: Will Pan Am EVER fly the Concorde to BTV?

Wed Sep 21, 2016 9:40 am

The IG3 (Inter Galactic Big 3) are crushing the US3 on the Moon/Venus/Jupiter routes as they have nicer catering, and hotter aliens to boot. The American airlines keep complaining about aliens taking away their jobs and business, but I say, let the consumer choose. Protectionism never works.
Virgin Galactic alone offers 53 daily flights from 11 US gateways to Venus-International, whereas Emirates Orbital has around 40 to Lunarville. All Delta can manage are a few tired MD-88s from Atlanta with BOB and no PTVs. Man has colonized the universe, YET DELTA WON'T RETIRE THE MD88???
 
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Re: Will Pan Am EVER fly the Concorde to BTV?

Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:29 am

Maybe Emirates can order a few hundred of them and figure out a way to make it 3-4-3.

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Re: Will Pan Am EVER fly the Concorde to BTV?

Wed Sep 21, 2016 11:26 am

How about a type 40 time and space machine built on Gallifrey, otherwise known as Time and relative dimensions in space the Tardis.

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