I follow the Airliners.net Facebook page and it seems that in a lot of pictures where there are Airbuses there is some ( usually ) American saying that Airbus is crap , because it's french , european and " If it ain't Boeing i'm not going"
I really don't get the hate...

I think there are just a lot of internet trolls... best way to deal is just ignore them.

Boeing used to be the unrivaled commercial aircraft manufacturer with the most reliable, advanced, and economical planes. Airbus back in the 80s and 90s could not even begin to compare to what Boeing was. 737s and 747s dominated the short and long haul markets, respectively, around the world. Airbus' first successful aircraft was the A320, which did not become immensely popular until after 2000. Boeing still dominated the widebody market with 747s 767s and 777s in the 2000s, but Airbus definitely took away a lot of potential 737 customers.Then the A330 came. Although it initially lacked the efficiency and range for some routes, Airbus continued to make improvements, and it is now performing much better in both aspects. Boeing's handling of the 787 program post-MD merger was definitely far from ideal, and they indirectly lost a lot of orders to A330ceo, A330neo, and A350. So now, Airbus has reduced the gap in the widebody market. Looking into future products, the Airbus A320neo and A321LRneo meet the market needs for fuel efficient, narrow body aircraft. Boeing was late in innovating in the narrow body market, and the 737MAX was a rushed response to the neo family. With the 757 line out of production, Boeing has no answer to the A321neoLR. Boeing's decision to cut R&D costs have cost them a good deal of sales in the long term. In orders, Airbus has led Boeing 8 out of the last 10 years. In the future, it looks like Airbus will lead in narrowbodies, while Boeing still commands a slight lead in widebodies.

Basically, a lot of people are salty that Boeing no longer dominates commercial planes like they did 15 or more years ago. Many people can't accept that reality, so they turn to the internet and start trashing Airbus.

theasianguy wrote:

I think there are just a lot of internet trolls... best way to deal is just ignore them.

Boeing used to be the unrivaled commercial aircraft manufacturer with the most reliable, advanced, and economical planes. Airbus back in the 80s and 90s could not even begin to compare to what Boeing was. 737s and 747s dominated the short and long haul markets, respectively, around the world. Airbus' first successful aircraft was the A320, which did not become immensely popular until after 2000. Boeing still dominated the widebody market with 747s 767s and 777s in the 2000s, but Airbus definitely took away a lot of potential 737 customers.Then the A330 came. Although it initially lacked the efficiency and range for some routes, Airbus continued to make improvements, and it is now performing much better in both aspects. Boeing's handling of the 787 program post-MD merger was definitely far from ideal, and they indirectly lost a lot of orders to A330ceo, A330neo, and A350. So now, Airbus has reduced the gap in the widebody market. Looking into future products, the Airbus A320neo and A321LRneo meet the market needs for fuel efficient, narrow body aircraft. Boeing was late in innovating in the narrow body market, and the 737MAX was a rushed response to the neo family. With the 757 line out of production, Boeing has no answer to the A321neoLR. Boeing's decision to cut R&D costs have cost them a good deal of sales in the long term. In orders, Airbus has led Boeing 8 out of the last 10 years. In the future, it looks like Airbus will lead in narrowbodies, while Boeing still commands a slight lead in widebodies.

Basically, a lot of people are salty that Boeing no longer dominates commercial planes like they did 15 or more years ago. Many people can't accept that reality, so they turn to the internet and start trashing Airbus.

bascially that

So , do't feed the trolls

Concorde2904 wrote:

I follow the Airliners.net Facebook page and it seems that in a lot of pictures where there are Airbuses there is some ( usually ) American saying that Airbus is crap , because it's french , european and " If it ain't Boeing i'm not going"
I really don't get the hate...

It's because Americans are sore losers.

It's because Americans are sore losers

Yeah, just like all of those Euros who aren't speaking German thanks to us.

I'm just kidding! Please, it's just a joke. And really, that's the point. A lot of folks bash Boeing and Airbus both based upon nonsensical, irrelevant reasons, folklore and tribal knowledge. The truth is, they both make great products and you'll be safe flying on either of them. Personally, I like the fact that Airbus is around since the competition they offer pushes Boeing to improve and innovate, spoken as a Boeing shareholder.

As far as the A v B thing, the reason many Americans have a disdain for airbus has to do with the subsidy and state aid issue. I remember when European countries back in the '80s were offering airlines flying Airbuses lower landing fees than those flying Boeings. Things like that stick in peoples' craws and they often can't let go, even though this happened years ago. By the same token, many Airbus operators and fanboys dislike Boeing for the rather domineering manner in which Boeing treated them back in the day - "You'll fly the plane we choose for you, and you'll like it!" Ask Frontier about that!

In the end, as theasianguy said, it's best to just ignore the trolls. Form your own opinions about which planes you like. Personally, I'm a 757/767 lover who can't stand the 737. I also really like the A330 (I'm flying on a Hawaiian A330 in January, and chose the flight specifically to fly that bird) but despise the A320. Oh, and I dream of the day when the L-1011 will return to regular revenue service. A guy can hope...

I think there's many American posters who aren't necessarily anti-Airbus but rather pro-Boeing. Its only natural to have a bias towards your "home" manufacturer and whatnot. I used to heavily favour Boeing aircraft however the more knowledge and experience I have gained over the past few years have evened that field. When the A350 was going through its early stages I was always skeptical and bias towards the 777 which is my favourite aircraft however these days I really like the A350 and have no qualms with it possibly becoming the dominant big twin. Both OEMs produce excellent aircraft and both have produced aircraft I'll never like (A340-300/757-300).

I think it depends on personal preference, one of my colleagues at work has been crew on the BAe146, Mad dog, Boeing and Airbus and she says although she enjoys flying Airbus they do feel 'plasticy'. I personally was very pro-Boeing, up until this year really, I thought it was more of a nitty gritty aircraft, you can get your teeth stuck into it when working on it; And I flew the 73C, 738, 752 and I loved them. Genuinely couldn't fault them and I suppose it's only when I got trained on the A320 that caused me to get a great deal more respect to Airbus and to their aircraft. Now I would happily fly an Airbus, I mean I certainly don't miss having to crouch to the floor to arm and disarm the door! But my perspective as Cabin Crew is that Airbus have made our job so much easier, more indicators for us such as AIP's which show on a panel by the crew seats what seat pressed the call bell, who is calling on the interphone, if there is any PA's in use etc and of course my favourite a touch screen FAP where you can control the lighting, temp, turn off individual call bells and more and it makes the experience of doing 4/6 hour sectors where you're passing through day to night and pax need more drinks so much more easier. That's my rambling two cents anyway!

It's a bit like football. You're either Celtic or Rangers. You back a team unconditionally.

Both Airbus and Boeing (or any other manufacturer) have the pluses and some features might be preferable to others depending on what you're looking for. But when one considers that parts are sourced globally and often on the basis of shared technologies it can get a bit amusing watching the arguments of either faction.

Among Americans, I think another part of it is that we tend to only see and fly A319/320/321 with very high frequencies, with the exception of only a few major international hubs (LAX, JFK, SFO). Personally, I love seeing the widebody Airbuses, but it's just not that common here. I think there's an element of boredom with the brand here.

I'm American and I enjoy seeing and flying on Airbus products. I began photographing planes in the late 1970s when Eastern was the only U.S. operator and I've enjoyed the success Airbus as reaped over the decades. Competition is good.

Concorde2904 wrote:

I follow the Airliners.net Facebook page and it seems that in a lot of pictures where there are Airbuses there is some ( usually ) American saying that Airbus is crap , because it's french , european and " If it ain't Boeing i'm not going"
I really don't get the hate...

People are dumb

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ps. I love Airbus <3 although Boeing planes are just more fun to ride in, so I generally try to choose Boeing instead of Airbus, if possible, whenever I go travelling.

To be fair, there is plenty of hate toward Boeing too.

Swings and round-a-bouts really.

Bombardier all the way! CRJ-200 > all

Pretty simple, really. John Leahy is always in the press with acerbic comments towards Boeing. His schtick is tiresome.

11725Flyer wrote:

Pretty simple, really. John Leahy is always in the press with acerbic comments towards Boeing. His schtick is tiresome.

I have to agree; type of denigrating and insulting comments such as "...that plastic airplane" don't help!

It's a national pride thing. People root for their home team. Although there are people from all over the world who regularly contribute to this site, it is still very U.S. centric. It's no different than Americans trashing import cars. A lot of people don't like Airbus because simply because it's not an American company.