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DL First Class Booking Classes

Fri Nov 25, 2016 3:42 pm

I have a question regarding DL Booking Classes in First/Domestic...

I was looking online and I see that on the route DEN-DTW, there are 3 aircraft types... A319, A320 and MD90. (I specifically looked on Dec19).

Why does the MD90 have booking classes F, P, A, G, ... whereas the A319/A320 has J, C, D, I, Z..? Is the product different? The price for the A319/A320 product is significantly higher than on the MD-90. Is this an internal designation in which DL differentiates it's F/CL product based on aircraft type?

Thanks in advance.
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Re: DL First Class Booking Classes

Fri Nov 25, 2016 4:08 pm

Does the Airbus service share a flight number with an international segment? That looks to be what's going on.
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Re: DL First Class Booking Classes

Fri Nov 25, 2016 4:29 pm

If DL fare codes are the same as UA, then J is full-fare Business Class (international) with C and D discounted Business class, so that could explain the much higher fare. As Cubsrule notes, the A319/A320 are probably "through flights" that share a flight number (but not aircraft) with an international segment from DTW (DTW-AMS?) so the J/C fares are present for those booking Business Class on DEN-AMS (via DTW), for example.

Usually such flights have F/A/P (Full / Discounted) domestic First fares, but it is possible those fare buckets have sold out and DL is only making the international Business Class fares available to ensure anyone booking DEN-AMS (for example) are in a premium cabin the entire way. It is possible closer in to the 19th they will open up additional F/A/P fare buckets on the A319/A320 flights if there are enough open seats.
 
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Re: DL First Class Booking Classes

Fri Nov 25, 2016 4:36 pm

You must be looking at Flight DL0098 (1 stop, ACFT change) to CDG. A, G, P are UP fares for domestic... IE.. you are booking in coach with an immediate upgrade.
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Re: DL First Class Booking Classes

Fri Nov 25, 2016 7:52 pm

Thanks for the replies....
UA and LH use the same booking classes so it does seem like the first set of letters, J, C, D, I, Z are for business class (i.e. domestic first). It seems a bit strange not to use an analogous systematic on domestic flights. DL1645 is not continuing on internationally, is A319 service, but uses the J, C, D, I, Z logic, whereas both DL916 and DL2409 (both MD90s) use F, P, A, G. The bit about being UP fares makes sense as the one-way fare in G was just $200.

Furthermore, it's amazing to see how ULCC competition really changes the landscape. One-way fares on a 3 hr segment are as low as $86.
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Re: DL First Class Booking Classes

Sat Nov 26, 2016 1:01 am

DTW-DEN is a route that with the competition I'll buy first class with the G fares. Makes for a great, comfortable flight for only a minimal difference than coach fares. Its long enough that I'll pay a bit more to get the more comfortable seat, free drinks/food, and EQM bonus.
 
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Re: DL First Class Booking Classes

Sat Nov 26, 2016 3:46 am

Which website are you seeing this on?
 
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Re: DL First Class Booking Classes

Sat Nov 26, 2016 4:50 am

hjulicher wrote:
Thanks for the replies....
UA and LH use the same booking classes so it does seem like the first set of letters, J, C, D, I, Z are for business class (i.e. domestic first). It seems a bit strange not to use an analogous systematic on domestic flights. DL1645 is not continuing on internationally, is A319 service, but uses the J, C, D, I, Z logic, whereas both DL916 and DL2409 (both MD90s) use F, P, A, G. The bit about being UP fares makes sense as the one-way fare in G was just $200.

Furthermore, it's amazing to see how ULCC competition really changes the landscape. One-way fares on a 3 hr segment are as low as $86.


DL1645 is DEN-MSP, not DEN-DTW. Further, the F fares I am seeing are F/P/A/G fares, not J/C/D/I/Z. You shouldn't read anything into the use of these fare classes. In addition to domestic continuation flights, they are also used on JFK non-stop transcon flights and flights to Caribbean, Mexico, and Central America. Other than the JFK-SFO/LAX transcon's, none of these routes are Delta One routes and you should not expect anything other than domestic F seating and service.
 
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Re: DL First Class Booking Classes

Sat Nov 26, 2016 9:09 pm

hjulicher wrote:
I have a question regarding DL Booking Classes in First/Domestic...

I was looking online and I see that on the route DEN-DTW, there are 3 aircraft types... A319, A320 and MD90. (I specifically looked on Dec19).

Why does the MD90 have booking classes F, P, A, G, ... whereas the A319/A320 has J, C, D, I, Z..? Is the product different? The price for the A319/A320 product is significantly higher than on the MD-90. Is this an internal designation in which DL differentiates it's F/CL product based on aircraft type?

Thanks in advance.


FPAG - all are domestic first class fares (F is full fair, AG are discounted, I think P is too).

JCDIZ - all are business fares (J full fare, Z - deep discount). As others stated, JCDIZ - all are business fares because the flight number continues on an international routing. However, there is not a change to the service (its all domestic F product).
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