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zrs70
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Can a cancelled boarding pass get you through TSA?

Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:10 pm

I'm not trying to figure out how to get through security for a need of mine. This is simple curiosity.

If I have a paper or mobile boarding pass, but then need to cancel my plans, does the bar code that tsa scans have that cancellation encoded? Will it prevent a person from going through security?

Or does the bar code not have that info viewable to tsa?
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Re: Can a cancelled boarding pass get you through TSA?

Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:27 pm

Your question does not make sense. If you have cancelled your plans - that is, cancelled your ticket/rebooked onto another flight, then your existing boarding pass is invalid. If you are travelling that day on a later flight, then you have have a new, valid boarding pass to allow you through security. If you are not travelling that day, then you do not need to go through security, so your question is moot - it should not matter if the cancelled boarding pass works or not, you should not be attempting to go through security to be airside.

I have been through security without a boarding pass though - I have been on standby for a flight and AA issued a boarding pass-looking thing that that allowed me through security (I forget the exact wording it had on it - something like 'traveller authorisation' or something).

You can get 'carrier authorisation forms' that allow non-travellers to pass through security in certain circumstances, e.g. parents dropping off unaccompanied minors or sick/elderly passengers.
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Re: Can a cancelled boarding pass get you through TSA?

Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:12 am

I'm not really sure what you're asking, but if your goal is to be able to get into the sterile area without actually going anywhere all you would need to do is purchase a fully refundable ticket to anywhere, go through security, then call and cancel before your ticketed flight leaves.
 
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Re: Can a cancelled boarding pass get you through TSA?

Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:54 am

I thought I was clear. Let me try again....

I know that there are many ways to get through security. Buy a refundable ticket. Club access. Etc.

My question is NOT asking, "How can I get through."

My question is this: if I cancel my flight after I check in, does my boarding pass show up on TSA screen as invalid. It's merely a curiosity.

(I cancelled my plans yesterday, and I was looking last night at the boarding passes on my phone.)

There is no practical application to my question. Simply curiosity,
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Re: Can a cancelled boarding pass get you through TSA?

Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:51 am

zrs70 wrote:
(I cancelled my plans yesterday, and I was looking last night at the boarding passes on my phone.)


I understand your question. If you still have your canceled boarding pass, why not give it a try and report back?
 
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Re: Can a cancelled boarding pass get you through TSA?

Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:54 pm

If you want to try it, you may have to try it before your original flight departs. In other words, you may get different results if you try it before the flight departs versus trying it hours or days after the flight has departed.
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Re: Can a cancelled boarding pass get you through TSA?

Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:44 am

From what I understand, the bar/QR code just restates what is on the printed boarding pass. In so far as the TSA person is paying attention, they will catch you if you are trying to use an old paper or electronic boarding pass because the date or time might have passed. Because the electronic boarding pass was created by the TSA, I'm sure it must be tied in with the carrier's flight information so that if a traveler was in possession of an electronic boarding pass for an upcoming flight that had been cancelled, you would think they would know that. Having said that, I have never seen someone turned away by TSA because of an invalid boarding pass so maybe they don't. Maybe they are indeed just checking your identity versus your credentials as well as the date of travel and nothing more. But somehow I don't think so.

Interesting question.
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Re: Can a cancelled boarding pass get you through TSA?

Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:38 pm

I had the same question for TSA last year when I flew LAX-SFO-TPE with my SFO-TPE severely delayed (mx) rendering me without ground transportation in Taiwan to my final destination. I asked UA to switch my flight to the red-eye EVA Air SFO-TPE which then gave me about 8 hours to waste. I was not able to check-in and obtain EVA Air boarding pass because it was too early so I asked TSA whether my old (cancelled) UA boarding pass for the same day but delayed flight will work since the flight hasn't departed yet. The TSA agent took my phone from sterile area and tried to scan it at a security podium but I was told the scanner gave an error message so I wouldn't be able to re-enter sterile area using it. I only wanted to duck out and have a cigarette but was unable to do so. I ended up just called up my friends in SF and hung out.

vhtje wrote:
Your question does not make sense. If you have cancelled your plans - that is, cancelled your ticket/rebooked onto another flight, then your existing boarding pass is invalid. If you are travelling that day on a later flight, then you have have a new, valid boarding pass to allow you through security. If you are not travelling that day, then you do not need to go through security, so your question is moot - it should not matter if the cancelled boarding pass works or not, you should not be attempting to go through security to be airside.


During IRROPs, one could potentially be stuck at an airport for hours without the same-day departure boarding pass because the check-in counter hasn't opened.
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Re: Can a cancelled boarding pass get you through TSA?

Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:39 pm

Short answer - no. If you can't provide sufficient proof (i.e. a boarding pass for a flight on that day) then you will be denied access into the Critical Part. Same goes for when you are airside and your flight is cancelled. In CAA land that would mean that you no longer have a sufficient reason to be inside the Critical Part and you no longer have a valid boarding pass, so you are escorted landside.
 
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Re: Can a cancelled boarding pass get you through TSA?

Tue Feb 21, 2017 10:06 pm

foppishbum wrote:
During IRROPs, one could potentially be stuck at an airport for hours without the same-day departure boarding pass because the check-in counter hasn't opened.


Okay, so you had a legitimate reason to be airside - I presume to access the lounge and wait out the hours there. In the example you gave, why couldn't UA issue the boarding pass if EVA had not opened the check-in desk yet? Presumably UA through checked your bags through on the EVA flight. If UA couldn't have issued the boarding pass for whatever reason, then UA should have issued you with an airside pass to get you through TSA. Otherwise - online check-in (web or app) would have solved it for you.
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Re: Can a cancelled boarding pass get you through TSA?

Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:29 am

vhtje wrote:
foppishbum wrote:
During IRROPs, one could potentially be stuck at an airport for hours without the same-day departure boarding pass because the check-in counter hasn't opened.


In the example you gave, why couldn't UA issue the boarding pass if EVA had not opened the check-in desk yet? Presumably UA through checked your bags through on the EVA flight. If UA couldn't have issued the boarding pass for whatever reason, then UA should have issued you with an airside pass to get you through TSA. Otherwise - online check-in (web or app) would have solved it for you.


United was not able to issue me the boarding pass for some reason. They re-routed my bag to the new flight after booking was confirmed so I'm not sure whether that counted as "check-in". I didn't bother asking UA to issue me airside pass...if it happens again I'll try that. I tried online check-in but it kept saying I'm checked-in but couldn't generate e-boarding pass...not sure why. Maybe it's an EVA thing. I'm sure if it were on another UA flight it would have been a lot smoother.
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