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Airports with Light rail/metro and heavy rail connections

Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:09 pm

Hi, how many airports have both light rail & or metro/underground connections and heavy rail. I can think of a couple straight away.

LHR with London Underground and Heathrow Express and local trains
CPH Copenhagen Metro and heavy rail.
 
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:18 pm

MAN with heavy rail and tram (Metrolink)
 
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:20 pm

BER, FRA and DUS

Edit: BER train station doesn't seem to be open yet. Or is it?
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:21 pm

ADB in Turkey.
 
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:23 pm

Both MAD and BCN have both metro and commuter railway (Cercanías)
 
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:34 pm

In 2018 DFW will add a Heavy Rail connection to go along with it's existing Light Rail connection.
 
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:37 pm

YouGeeElWhy wrote:
In 2018 DFW will add a Heavy Rail connection to go along with it's existing Light Rail connection.



True you will be able to take Amtrack from Oklahoma City for example and the change trains in FortWorth to the Airport. You could do that now but it requires a bus from Centerpoint to the Terminals. Either way requires backtracking as Amtrack doesn't stop at the Terminal.
 
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:38 pm

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Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:38 pm

Some more:

CGN, LEJ in Germany
VIE in Austria
ZRH in Switzerland
AMS in the Netherlands
BRU in Belgium
 
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:40 pm

SBN heavy rail to downtown Chicago.
 
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:41 pm

ORD has commuter rail and metro.
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:45 pm

DEN, light rail as of April 2016.

SLC, light rail.

BOS, subway station accessible via short bus ride.

MSP, light rail. You can actually get between the two Terminals for free on the light rail.

These are just a few off the top of my head.

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Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:47 pm

YYZ has a light rail link to the city now
 
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:49 pm

YVR has Skytrain-metro, Canada Line.
 
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:50 pm

CDG. The TGV pulls up right up to the airport. Not to mention the RER connections.
 
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:50 pm

bomber996 wrote:
These are just a few off the top of my head.
Question was airports with both Light and Heavy rail connections.
 
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:51 pm

SFO has Bart
 
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:52 pm

The question was which airports have BOTH heavy and light/metro/subway and people are listing airports like BOS which have neither....
 
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:53 pm

Kiwirob asks ' light rail & or metro/underground connections' so sounds like 'either or' to me.
 
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:56 pm

ACCS300 wrote:
Kiwirob asks ' light rail & or metro/underground connections' so sounds like 'either or' to me.


No, he asks for "both light rail & or metro/underground connections and heavy rail".
 
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:08 pm

JFK probably has most diverse in US:

4 subway lines, one heavy LIRR serving every branch in system except Port Washington
 
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:08 pm

CQM has two rail lines (high-speed and regular) but a station only in the regular line (Cañada de Calatrava station). But neither the airport nor the station is open now :D and the AVE station is just a walkway with a dead-end by the moment.

CDG has both RER and TGV.
ATH has metro and commuter lines.
XRY has Cercanías and maybe in a short time will have AVE.

PS: I had to edit when I realized the question asked for BOTH modes. I don't know if the CQM, CDG and XRY examples are good, as RER, Regionales and Cercanías run on heavy-rail links, but I hope they are. The ATH example is good, though.
Also VLC has had Cercanías and Metro, but one was converted to the other, so we can't say it has both.
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:15 pm

HAM has a suburban train (S-Bahn) link. Every 10 minutes, takes 20-25 minutes to the city center and central station.
As the airport is the terminus of that line you cant take the wrong train which is pretty helpful for tourists.

There also is a subway station just one kilometer away from Terminal 1. You can walk there in 10-15 minutes depending on how fit you are. This stations name even was " Flughafen" (Airport) for a period, centuries ago.
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:19 pm

Dfw has a linec
 
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:20 pm

ATL has a MARTA station inside the terminal
 
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:27 pm

In Europe, at least in Germany, it is pretty much common practice for airports to be integrated into local public transport networks and sometimes even long-distance rail, same tends to apply for East Asia (SIN, HKG, PVG, ICN, PEK), although trains tend to charge substantially more in this part of the world with the noticeable exception of SIN. In Australia/New Zealand, SYD and BNE come to mind with dedicated airport trains (in SYD it is a joke and total rip-off to be fair). DXB certainly is accessed by Dubai Metro. Only Africa and the Americas seem to be somewhat behind on this.
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:30 pm

novak500 wrote:
YYZ has a light rail link to the city now


current YYZ rail link is heavy rail.
Light rail "Crosstown LRT" extension to YYZ is awaiting funding IIRC..
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:31 pm

If you count a monorail as "light rail," then Haneda in Tokyo has both. The Keikyu Railroad has heavy rail.
Meanwhile, Narita and Kansai have two competing heavy rail lines.
 
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:37 pm

Also the airport of Lubeck has a rail station, with regional trains stopping every hour each direction. Stupidly enough, there are no scheduled flights from Lubeck after Ryanair left and WizzAir moved to HAM.

And of course the new Berlin Airport has a big, undergound suburban train and long distance/regional train station. Sitting there, ready, waiting. For years. Sometimes they send trains through the tunnels to make sure the air circulates.
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:51 pm

It's stretching the definition of "light" rail, but BWI is served both by Amtrak and by the MARC commuter lines that run between Baltimore and DC. They're on the same tracks and I'd call MARC more of a heavy-rail commuter service (like Caltrain), but BWI does have both a local/commuter and long-distance service.

GVA also has both, assuming the local trams (which run on tracks) count as light rail.
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:55 pm

KUL with its KLIA Ekspres
 
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:26 pm

DLHAM wrote:
HAM has a suburban train (S-Bahn) link. Every 10 minutes, takes 20-25 minutes to the city center and central station.
As the airport is the terminus of that line you cant take the wrong train which is pretty helpful for tourists.

Took them ages to get that done. Talks started when I still grew up there 40 years ago.
( though public transport in Hamburg is rather good.)

FRA has ICE High Speed Rail main line access., regional trainservices and local and long distance bus lines.
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:32 pm

IADCA wrote:
It's stretching the definition of "light" rail, but BWI is served both by Amtrak and by the MARC commuter lines that run between Baltimore and DC. They're on the same tracks and I'd call MARC more of a heavy-rail commuter service (like Caltrain), but BWI does have both a local/commuter and long-distance service.

GVA also has both, assuming the local trams (which run on tracks) count as light rail.

No, sorry, but GVA has the heavy rail link only and normal bus services. There are no trams going to the airport.
 
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:44 pm

Chongqing, Shenzhen, Kunming, Nanjing, Guangzhou, Shanghai Hongqiao do now (probably among others)...I'll bet within ten years time, no less than twenty of the busiest Chinese airports will have metro/monorail links.
 
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:46 pm

CDG : TGV has no link to the city, it's useful for connections to/from French regions and Brussels (to T2 only). Technically, RER line B to Paris is a suburban train (think S-Bahn or Overground) and not a metro. This line is one of the worst in the system (slow, cramped, old and sometimes dirty trains + abysmal on-time performance + does not always feel very safe). For some reason the T1 RER station is so far away from the terminal proper that they had to add a light rail link just to get from one to the other...
2 improvements in the pipeline : a nonstop premium rail link to Gare de l'Est, ARN / LHR style, and a new metro link w/ the Grand Paris Express project.

ORY : a light rail links both terminals with the other end of RER Line B. Not very convenient. Recently, a tram link was opened but w/o direct connection to Paris. Again, this should improve with the Grand Paris Express projects (TGV station + metro).
 
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:53 pm

BartSimpson wrote:
Some more:

CGN, LEJ in Germany
VIE in Austria
ZRH in Switzerland
AMS in the Netherlands
BRU in Belgium

Do we have to put AMS In this list? We have heavy rail trains, national and international (Thalys), no metro for sure, and we have the "sprinters" which they are more regional trains, but still they use the same network as the rest of the NS trains. So I am wondering if we can consider them as a light rail trains or not.
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:06 pm

hynithuchi wrote:
IADCA wrote:
It's stretching the definition of "light" rail, but BWI is served both by Amtrak and by the MARC commuter lines that run between Baltimore and DC. They're on the same tracks and I'd call MARC more of a heavy-rail commuter service (like Caltrain), but BWI does have both a local/commuter and long-distance service.

GVA also has both, assuming the local trams (which run on tracks) count as light rail.

No, sorry, but GVA has the heavy rail link only and normal bus services. There are no trams going to the airport.


I must be confusing it with somewhere else, then. Sorry!
 
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:35 pm

IADCA wrote:
It's stretching the definition of "light" rail, but BWI is served both by Amtrak and by the MARC commuter lines that run between Baltimore and DC. They're on the same tracks and I'd call MARC more of a heavy-rail commuter service (like Caltrain), but BWI does have both a local/commuter and long-distance service.


You don't even have to "stretch the definition" of light rail for BWI; the Baltimore light rail has a stop inside the International Pier (E) at BWI.
 
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:40 pm

ScottB wrote:
IADCA wrote:
It's stretching the definition of "light" rail, but BWI is served both by Amtrak and by the MARC commuter lines that run between Baltimore and DC. They're on the same tracks and I'd call MARC more of a heavy-rail commuter service (like Caltrain), but BWI does have both a local/commuter and long-distance service.


You don't even have to "stretch the definition" of light rail for BWI; the Baltimore light rail has a stop inside the International Pier (E) at BWI.


Shows which end of the B-W corridor I come from when I go there!
 
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:20 pm

bomber996 wrote:
DEN, light rail as of April 2016.


Just a correction, Denver is a heavy rail connection.

I'm surprised CLE hasn't been mentioned, the first airport terminal mass rail transit station in the US, if not the world.

LAX- light rail via a shuttle bus (a people mover someday).
SEA, PDX- light rail direct to terminal.
OAK- Heavy rail (BART) via a people mover.
HNL- heavy rail in 2020.
MKE- Amtrak via shuttle bus.
 
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:20 pm

Wow I never realized how many airports had multiple rail connections, I was asking because it's been decided that AKL will get a light rail connection, I think this is a mistake when heavy rail already is fairly close to the airport from two different directions and Auckland does not have a light rail network. Kinda nuts in my opinion, but that NZ transport planning for you.
 
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:31 pm

ORD and MDW both have heavy rapid transit service (The L). ORD also has limited commuter service (Metra).
EWR has monorail connection to NJ Transit to lines throughout the network (except Atlantic City) and limited Amtrak Northeast Corridor service.
PHL has SEPTA commuter service.
DCA has had for years and IAD eventually will have METRO heavy rail rapid transit.
STL has METROLINK light rail service.
PHX has light rail via a connecting train to airport.
 
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 5:19 pm

LGAviation wrote:
although trains tend to charge substantially more in this part of the world with the noticeable exception of SIN.


That's because SIN is the only one out of these asian cities that doesn't have an express train that links the airport with the city. Our airport is near enough to not require one. I think if one took normal metro lines to airports like PVG's metro line 2, the price would be comparable to SIN's mrt! Not many airports are connected this way though...
 
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 5:24 pm

jfklganyc wrote:
JFK probably has most diverse in US:

4 subway lines, one heavy LIRR serving every branch in system except Port Washington


Maybe I'm mistaken, but none of the subway lines or LIRR actually enter the airport. It's all via an AirTran connection.
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 5:52 pm

SYD and BNE - Heavy Rail
DXB - Metro
FCO - Heavy Rail - Leonardo Express (which is anything but), plus sub-railway
LIS - Metro
NCL - Metro
STO - Heavy Rail - Arlanda Express
HAM, CGN, DUS, FRA, STR, MUC, HAJ - Deutsche Bahn Regional
TXL - no rail only buses
GVA/ZRH - CHH Rail
OSL - Heavy Rail
AMS/BRU - Heavy Rail
BCN - Metro
MAD - Metro/Local Rail
PRG - Bus that connects with Metro
VIE - CAT - Heavy Rail plus local sub-rail
ATH - Metro

Buses for NCE/GOT/TLS/BGO/DUB/BIO/BSL/RTM/LIN/ADL/AKL/CHC/WLG/CBR/PER/CNS/ASP/HBA/LST/TSV/DRW/PSA

MRS cant remember don't recall see any trams (certainly no metro/train)
 
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MNL has a train station right at the junction of SLEX and Sales Rd where the NAIAX begins, and the LRT Depot near Terminal 4 across Airport Rd...but neither actually connects to the airport... :biggrin: ...


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Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:57 pm

Devilfish wrote:
MNL has a train station right at the junction of SLEX and Sales Rd where the NAIAX begins, and the LRT Depot near Terminal 4 across Airport Rd...but neither actually connects to the airport... :biggrin: ...



sounds like LAX...
 
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:58 pm

CMN (Casablanca) has a suburban rail stop. Stuffy, but it worked.
 
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:06 pm

NRT has heavy rail with JR on various lines, not sure about the Shinkansen, however.
ICN is linked to Seoul's metro system.
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Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:39 pm

MIA (via a people mover connection): Metrorail and Tri-Rail (commuter rail) as well as buses.

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