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Airport Codes that make little sense

Sun Apr 23, 2017 5:02 pm

There are a few airport codes that I really don't get. And it's not about cryptic historic figures or funky abreviations. Rather, it's about destination cities names, and why they chose the designation in the first place.

CVG comes to mind. It stands for Covington, KY. But why name the code for a place that no one really knows about?

Same with MDT (Harrisburg) - but the code stands for Middletown. Anyone flying there?

And why IDL was used for New York I will never really understand. Wasn't Idelwild a golf course?
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Sun Apr 23, 2017 5:17 pm

zrs70 wrote:
And why IDL was used for New York I will never really understand. Wasn't Idelwild a golf course?


Idlewild was the name of the airport from it's opening in 1948 until it was renamed into JFK airport in 1963. With that the IATA-code also changed. Why it was named Idlewild I don't know, could be that the airport was named after a golf course but I can't say for sure.

SUF is an airport I can think of that doesn't make sense. This is Lamezia Terme airport and I really can't see why it uses SUF as a code.
 
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Sun Apr 23, 2017 5:55 pm

PatrickZ80 wrote:
zrs70 wrote:
And why IDL was used for New York I will never really understand. Wasn't Idelwild a golf course?


Idlewild was the name of the airport from it's opening in 1948 until it was renamed into JFK airport in 1963. With that the IATA-code also changed. Why it was named Idlewild I don't know, could be that the airport was named after a golf course but I can't say for sure.

SUF is an airport I can think of that doesn't make sense. This is Lamezia Terme airport and I really can't see why it uses SUF as a code.


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Sun Apr 23, 2017 6:45 pm

zrs70 wrote:
CVG comes to mind. It stands for Covington, KY. But why name the code for a place that no one really knows about?


In the 1940's when CVG was built, Covington was nearest and biggest city in Kentucky. Keep in mind, until the 1970's, the city of Cincinnati still wanted to construct its own airport at Blue Ash or Lunken, so it really was the airport for Kentucky, though it was presently serving Cincinnati. However, in addition to resident opposition, I am sure the rapid expansion and buildup of Comair and Delta in the 80's prevented Cincinnati from constructing its own airport.

In contract to common misconception, the airport is actually really close to downtown, taking only 15-20 min to drive. Plus Cincinnati is really a city in three states, Ohio, Kentucky, and Indiana, the freeway surrounding the city (I-275), runs through all three states. At this point, with DL's CVG hub only connecting 100,000's of people instead of 1,000,000's a year, not sure that is matters much at this point. Though some will still be confused by seeing CVG on their Amazon Shipments this May, so the confusion will live on :-) :-) :-).
 
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Sun Apr 23, 2017 6:48 pm

There's clearly a historical reason why the major Canadian airports have a code that starts with a Y. And I'm sure someone will explain. But the rest of the letters often make no (obvious) sense either.
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Sun Apr 23, 2017 6:49 pm

Just saying, you could say the same about the airports in Canada. I know there's a reason they all start with a Y, but many still don't make sense.
Where does YYZ come from? Toronto has neither Y nor Z
YUL? I get the L (MontreaL), but I'll have to take the L on the other 2.
YYC? C for Calgary, I guess.
YVR starts to make more sense. The omnipresent Y+VancouveR
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Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:36 pm

ASQ400 wrote:
Just saying, you could say the same about the airports in Canada. I know there's a reason they all start with a Y, but many still don't make sense.
Where does YYZ come from? Toronto has neither Y nor Z


Halifax is YHZ (& that's Zed not Zee!)
It would make more sense if it was YHX
 
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Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:48 pm

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ASQ400 wrote:
Just saying, you could say the same about the airports in Canada. I know there's a reason they all start with a Y, but many still don't make sense.
Where does YYZ come from? Toronto has neither Y nor Z


Halifax is YHZ (& that's Zed not Zee!)
It would make more sense if it was YHX

And then Iqaluit is YFB. At least they got one letter right for Halifax
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Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:23 pm

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And then Iqaluit is YFB. At least they got one letter right for Halifax


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Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:13 pm

The Y thing goes back to distinctive morse identifiers. Canada wanted all it's navigational identifiers to be easily identified apart from those of the US so they were all to start with W, X, Y or Z depending on purpose... just stuck around basically.

W= Weather Station
X= HF Beacon (NDB/VOR)
Y= Airport
Z= VHF/UHF beacons and services

Z started to be assigned to airports as well after WW2. X started creeping in as well as facilities got added to remote communities that already had beacons.
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Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:18 pm

PatrickZ80 wrote:
[SUF is an airport I can think of that doesn't make sense. This is Lamezia Terme airport and I really can't see why it uses SUF as a code.


Google usually can help: Sant'Eufemia, the village closest to the airport.


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Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:23 pm

northstardc4m wrote:
The Y thing goes back to distinctive morse identifiers. Canada wanted all it's navigational identifiers to be easily identified apart from those of the US so they were all to start with W, X, Y or Z depending on purpose... just stuck around basically.

W= Weather Station
X= HF Beacon (NDB/VOR)
Y= Airport
Z= VHF/UHF beacons and services

Z started to be assigned to airports as well after WW2. X started creeping in as well as facilities got added to remote communities that already had beacons.

Yeah, I knew that. It still baffles casuals and irritates me.
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Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:38 pm

MSY has never made much sense to me.

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Sun Apr 23, 2017 11:46 pm

MCI stands for mid-continent international. That doesn't make sense to me at all. Apparently at the time MCI was built "K" was not an available letter hence them going with mid-continent. This was even more confusing because Wichita's airport 2 1/2 hours away was called Wichita Mid-Continent Airport until it was recently renamed. Kansas City has tried to change MCI to KCI before but since it's already published in navigation charts they have been unsuccessful at doing so and probably never will be at this point.
 
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Mon Apr 24, 2017 12:25 am

In New York, after the Big 3 airports, there is Westchester County Airport, aka White Plains NY. The airport code is HPN, which makes no sense at first glance. It stands for Harrison, Purchase, and New Castle, which happen to be the three towns in which the field is located.
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Mon Apr 24, 2017 3:27 am

SDJ for Sendai, i get The S and the D but the J? Maybe for Japan as the nation it is in but meh.
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Mon Apr 24, 2017 3:29 am

DaveFly wrote:
In New York, after the Big 3 airports, there is Westchester County Airport, aka White Plains NY. The airport code is HPN, which makes no sense at first glance. It stands for Harrison, Purchase, and New Castle, which happen to be the three towns in which the field is located.


Huh, I always thought it stood for WHite PlaiNs...
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Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:35 am

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Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:27 am

What about Groningen (GRQ)? The GR I can understand, that stands for GRoningen. But where does the Q come from?
 
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Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:34 am

PatrickZ80 wrote:
What about Groningen (GRQ)? The GR I can understand, that stands for GRoningen. But where does the Q come from?

Cause GRO is Girona, Spain; GRN is Gordon Municipal, USA; GRI is Central Nebraska, USA; GRG is Gardez, Pakistan; and GRE is Greenville Municipal, USA. So, there's not much option left.
What confuses me is O'Hare, ORD. Why ORD? I always mistook it as Orlando, which is MCO.
 
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Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:58 am

The airfield took the name of Orchard Field Airport, the source of its three-letter IATA code ORD. In fact the airport was built on an old cherry orchard. In 1949, the airport was renamed O'Hare International Airport to honor Edward O'Hare, the U.S. Navy's first flying ace and Medal of Honor recipient in World War II.
 
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Mon Apr 24, 2017 8:41 am

AGP - Malaga. Apparently AG comes from "malAGa" and P has no reason, just to fill.

ACE - Lanzarote. It might seem weird but the capital city is Arrecife.

VDE - El Hierro, same with Valverde

LEI - Almeria, this no idea. Maybe aLmErIa?

RGS - Burgos. Where the "R" comes from? No idea.

PatrickZ80 wrote:
What about Groningen (GRQ)? The GR I can understand, that stands for GRoningen. But where does the Q come from?


Same in Spain with SCQ and SVQ. The Q is just a filling letter.
 
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Mon Apr 24, 2017 10:26 am

St. John’s Newfoundland is YYT. The airport is in the community of Torbay

The big airport at Gander is YQX and Stephenville…once the US Air Force Ernest Harmon Field is YJT

Newfoundland was a separate country and didn’t join Canada until 1949. Prior to Confederation, the Dominion of Newfoundland used a ‘V’ designator for radio. Did they also use this for airports or did they always use the Canadian ‘Y’ designator? There are radio stations in Newfoundland, in business prior to Confederation…still using a ‘V’ callsign.
 
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Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:43 pm

KIJ for Niigata, Japan...it's not a historical reference, either
 
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Re: Airport Codes that make little sense

Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:32 pm

PatrickZ80 wrote:
zrs70 wrote:
And why IDL was used for New York I will never really understand. Wasn't Idelwild a golf course?


Idlewild was the name of the airport from it's opening in 1948 until it was renamed into JFK airport in 1963. With that the IATA-code also changed. Why it was named Idlewild I don't know, could be that the airport was named after a golf course but I can't say for sure..


Wasn't the official name NEW YORK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT ?
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Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:53 pm

727LOVER wrote:
Wasn't the official name NEW YORK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT ?


Not as far as I could find.

Anyway, why does Washington Dulles have IAD? Another unlogical code I think.
 
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Re: Airport Codes that make little sense

Mon Apr 24, 2017 8:53 pm

PatrickZ80 wrote:
727LOVER wrote:
Wasn't the official name NEW YORK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT ?


Not as far as I could find.

Anyway, why does Washington Dulles have IAD? Another unlogical code I think.

International Airport at Dulles
 
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Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:25 pm

ER757 wrote:
PatrickZ80 wrote:

Not as far as I could find.

Anyway, why does Washington Dulles have IAD? Another unlogical code I think.

International Airport at Dulles


Just like Houston-George Bush - IAH (Intercontinental Airport Houston)


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MCI stands for mid-continent international. That doesn't make sense to me at all. Apparently at the time MCI was built "K" was not an available letter hence them going with mid-continent. This was even more confusing because Wichita's airport 2 1/2 hours away was called Wichita Mid-Continent Airport until it was recently renamed. Kansas City has tried to change MCI to KCI before but since it's already published in navigation charts they have been unsuccessful at doing so and probably never will be at this point.


Is it really not possible to change IATA codes anymore? Slightly o/t but I've also been wondering for quite a while now if jetBlue or easyjet couldn't apply to change their IATA code from B6 to JB/U2 to EJ or EZ one day - airline codes with a number as a second digit tend to look a bit messy on FIDS screens (with flight numbers behind)
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Mon Apr 24, 2017 10:44 pm

I really like it when the IATA code is a bit of a riddle. It's just more fun I think.

Osaka Kansai is KIX. I assume it just refers to KansaI and the X is a filler.
Hannover is HAJ. The J seems to be a filler here as well.
Riyadh and RUH was always a bit of a mystery to me as I can't come up with any other explanation than filler for the U and H.
Astana is TSE which only makes sense when you know that Tselinograd was a former name of the city.
Bishkek is FRU which refers to the old city name of Frunze.

Complete riddles to me are Knoxville (TYS), Nashville (BNA), and Kahului (OGG).
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Mon Apr 24, 2017 11:08 pm

Complete riddles to me are Knoxville (TYS), Nashville (BNA), and Kahului (OGG).


Knoxville is TYS for Tyson-McGhee airport - not sure on BNA and OGG
 
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Mon Apr 24, 2017 11:32 pm

ER757 wrote:
Complete riddles to me are Knoxville (TYS), Nashville (BNA), and Kahului (OGG).


Knoxville is TYS for Tyson-McGhee airport - not sure on BNA and OGG


OGG is named after Bertram J Hogg. I think he worked for one of the defunt airlines based Hawaii. As to why the Maui airport (instead of say... HNL or KOA) is named after him, I have no idea.
 
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Tue Apr 25, 2017 2:54 am

Others that may make little sense to those who do not know the reasoning behind the codes:

CGK / Jakarta - The airport is located in the district of Cengkareng, in West Jakarta
DPS / Bali - While the name of the island is Bali, the name of the main city on the island and where the airport is located is Denpasar
SGN / Ho Chi Minh City - The code comes from the city's previous name, Saigon
CAN / Guangzhou - The code comes from the anglicized name the city used to be known as, Canton
MAA / Chennai - The code comes from the city's previous name, Madras
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Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:51 am

LH748 wrote:
Astana is TSE which only makes sense when you know that Tselinograd was a former name of the city.

Similarly in Indonesia many airport codes are based on the former name of the city (or in many cases the old Dutch spelling).
  • BDJ for Banjarmasin (Bandjermasin)
  • BDO for Bandung (Bandoeng)
  • BTJ for Banda Aceh (Banda Atjeh)
  • DJB for Jambi (Djambi)
  • DJJ for Jayapura (Djajapoera)
  • JOG for Yogyakarta (Jogjakarta)
  • KOE for Kupang (Koepang)
  • TKG for Bandar Lampung (Tanjungkarang)
  • UPG for Makassar (Ujung Pandang)

Also unusual are SOC for Solo and MDC for Manado (the C is for city, apparently) and BKS for Bengkulu (perhaps for Bengkulu-Sumatra).
 
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Tue Apr 25, 2017 11:12 am

AMQ is Ambon, I think Q is just the filler.
PEK makes little sense until you remember that Beijing used to be called Peking.
Mumbai (BOM) came from the old name, Bombay; like Kolkatta (CCU) came from Calcutta.

I don't know, I like RUH (Riyadh). It means 'spirit'.
 
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Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:58 pm

BGI for Barbados never made much sense for me, unless it is some reference to Bridgetown?
 
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Tue Apr 25, 2017 11:18 pm

ARN for Stockholm, named after the place where the airport is located Arlanda
BMA Stockholm as well, city airport located in the part of town named Bromma
NYO Ryanair version of Stockholm, but is actually in the town of Nyköping
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Wed Apr 26, 2017 12:16 am

ER757 wrote:
PatrickZ80 wrote:
727LOVER wrote:
Wasn't the official name NEW YORK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT ?


Not as far as I could find.

Anyway, why does Washington Dulles have IAD? Another unlogical code I think.

International Airport at Dulles


Dulles is actually more complicated than that. Dulles' original code was DIA. That was back the days when bag tags and tickets were hand-written and thanks to people's terrible handwriting the C in DCA and the I in DIA were constantly being confused with one another so people and bags were regularly ending up at the incorrect airport. Within two years, Dulles decided to change its code to IAD to eliminate the confusion and it has stuck...
 
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Wed Apr 26, 2017 2:48 am

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Complete riddles to me...Nashville (BNA)


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Wed Apr 26, 2017 4:09 pm

I'm kind of fascinated by how many big cities served by several airports don't have a single one that references the city's actual name in its IATA code. Sure, most of them do make sense or those that didn't have been explained already but it still seems interesting to me:

Stockholm:
ARN, BMA, (NYO)

Berlin:
TXL, SXF

Rome:
FCO, CIA

Paris:
CDG, ORY, (BVA)

Moscow:
VKO, DME, SVO

Tokyo:
HND, NRT

Sao Paulo:
GRU, CGH, VCP

Chicago:
ORD, MDW

New York:
JFK, EWR, LGA, (SWF, ISP, HPN)

...you might also count in London but at least LHR, LGW and LCY have the city's initial prominently displayed. Same goes for Washington (the W in BWI, also DC in DCA) and Toronto (the T in YTZ).
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Thu Apr 27, 2017 7:49 pm

I find that KEF being used for Reykjavik Keflavik not Kefalonia (EFL) to be a strange one
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Thu Apr 27, 2017 9:08 pm

I have always wondered about FCA (Kalispell, MT) when the ICAO code is KGPI, which stands for Glacier Park International. Why did they switch to the IATA code FCA? Was GPI taken?
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Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:44 am

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I'm kind of fascinated by how many big cities served by several airports don't have a single one that references the city's actual name in its IATA code.

You may find that those cities, rather than the airports, still have an IATA code. For example, if you do a search for flights to STO the results will include both BMA and ARN. Similary, a search LON to PAR can return results for LHR, LGW, LCY (and even LTN) to CDG and ORY.
 
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Fri Apr 28, 2017 7:36 am

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OGG is named after Bertram J Hogg. I think he worked for one of the defunt airlines based Hawaii. As to why the Maui airport (instead of say... HNL or KOA) is named after him, I have no idea.


Hogg started as a mechanic's helper at Inter-Island Airways (now Hawaiian Airlines) in 1930. He actually started at Hawaiian when the airline was still in its first year of operation. Hogg worked his way up to mate in 1931, co-pilot in 1936, and captain in 1937. On December 10, 1941, Hogg captained the first commercial flight after the attack on Pearl Harbor on a Honolulu-Maui-Kona flight. He also helped the FAA testing and calibrating navigation aids in Hawaii. This is why Kahului Airport was given the OGG code. His career is amazing in that he flew pretty much every aircraft type Hawaiian had from the Sikorsky S-38 to the DC-9 when he retired from flying in 1968. He continued to work for Hawaiian for a few years after his last flight. OGG has a large exhibit about Bertram J. Hogg by the gates near the Central Building.
 
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Fri Apr 28, 2017 1:22 pm

XNA- Northwest Arkansas is one that always miffs me from time to time...
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Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:12 pm

RoySFlying wrote:
lugie wrote:
I'm kind of fascinated by how many big cities served by several airports don't have a single one that references the city's actual name in its IATA code.

You may find that those cities, rather than the airports, still have an IATA code. For example, if you do a search for flights to STO the results will include both BMA and ARN. Similary, a search LON to PAR can return results for LHR, LGW, LCY (and even LTN) to CDG and ORY.


Searching WAS will give you results for IAD, DCA, and BWI.
NYC will give you results for all the New York-area airports.
I'm not sure if there's a similar search for Los Angeles.
 
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Re: Airport Codes that make little sense

Sat Apr 29, 2017 5:37 am

lugie wrote:
Berlin:
TXL, SXF


In addition to the previous replies that have already mentioned IATA Metropolitan Area codes, the new Berlin Brandenburg Airport will (whenever it's finally open) use the BER code.

There's a nice list of most of the Metropolitan Area codes here; http://wikitravel.org/en/Metropolitan_A ... port_Codes
but the as-yet-unmentioned highlights that apply to your list are:
Berlin: BER
Rome: ROM
Moscow: MOW
Tokyo: TYO
Sao Paulo: SAO
Chicago: CHI
 
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Re: Airport Codes that make little sense

Sat Apr 29, 2017 9:25 pm

jeffh747 wrote:
XNA- Northwest Arkansas is one that always miffs me from time to time...


There was a discussion above about whether Q is a placeholder in IATA codes and I really don't know, but do know for a fact that X is a placeholder letter.

XNA: XNorthwestArkansas
DXB: DuXBai
XTG: XTharGomindah
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Re: Airport Codes that make little sense

Sat Apr 29, 2017 9:28 pm

ooslc wrote:
I have always wondered about FCA (Kalispell, MT) when the ICAO code is KGPI, which stands for Glacier Park International. Why did they switch to the IATA code FCA? Was GPI taken?


It is a common misconception that ICAO codes in the USA are simply the IATA code with a K in front. That is actually not the case, it is the FAA identifier with a K in front. In the vast majority of cases the FAA use the IATA code as their identifier but there are a few cases where they went off piste for no apparent reason. For those airports the ICAO code does not match the IATA code.
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Re: Airport Codes that make little sense

Sat Apr 29, 2017 9:47 pm

SCQ83 wrote:
AGP - Malaga. Apparently AG comes from "malAGa" and P has no reason, just to fill.

RGS - Burgos. Where the "R" comes from? No idea.


I think I saw this in another thread:

AGP = málAGa Picasso
RGS = buRGoS
 
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Re: Airport Codes that make little sense

Sun Apr 30, 2017 1:47 am

ooslc wrote:
I have always wondered about FCA (Kalispell, MT) when the ICAO code is KGPI, which stands for Glacier Park International. Why did they switch to the IATA code FCA? Was GPI taken?

FCA is for Flathead County Airport

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