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Longest nonstop regular flight with the A332

Tue May 02, 2017 10:45 pm

Yesterday AR switched all its EZE-FCO-EZE flights to the A332 IGW. This is the longest by distance flight currently operated by an A332, at 6,919 miles. Other long distance A332 flights that come close to that are Iberia's MAD-NRT-MAD at 6,707 miles and Delta's DTW-PEK-DTW at 6,632 miles.

Now, I am certain that measured by flight time, Iberia's flight takes the prize as the head wind component on the NRT-MAD sector has to be higher than on the FCO-EZE sector.

LV-FVI did the honors yesterday, with a full passenger load and no restrictions en route, flight duration of 12h 49m.

The A340-300Xs that previously did the FCO flights are being phased out; currently their only scheduled flights to Europe are the EZE-BCN-EZE, as well as back up for the A330 fleet. The plan is to keep just two, LV-FPU and LV-FPV until the end of 2018. These two have been refurbished to bring them up to the cabin and entertainment standards of the A332 fleet.
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Re: Longest nonstop regular flight with the A332

Tue May 02, 2017 10:54 pm

SEA-HKG on DL is up there somewhere.
 
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Re: Longest nonstop regular flight with the A332

Tue May 02, 2017 10:58 pm

MaxTrimm wrote:
SEA-HKG on DL is up there somewhere.

Slightly behind DL's DTW-PEK distance, and ahead of where QF's former AKL-LAX was.
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Re: Longest nonstop regular flight with the A332

Tue May 02, 2017 11:12 pm

Thomas Cook is starting a seasonal MAN-MRU flight in November, according to GCMapper its 6206 miles. Certainly not close to the examples above but still a long flight for the A332. Wiki states the EZE-FCO-EZE is the longest route operated by an A330-200.
 
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Re: Longest nonstop regular flight with the A332

Tue May 02, 2017 11:17 pm

Turkish Airlines flies IST-BOG-PTY-IST with an A332. IST-BOG is 6680 miles and PTY-IST is 6740 miles.
China Eastern flies LAX-NKG, 6579 miles direct. The return (westbound) flight is easily 14h+.
 
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Re: Longest nonstop regular flight with the A332

Tue May 02, 2017 11:20 pm

Here are the numbers for last night's AR 1140

276 pax

FUBO 71557 13.00
E/RSV 4% 2458 00.31
ALTN/LIRN 3164 00.36
RSV 1876 00.30
RQRD 79055 14.36
TKOF 79055 14.36

ZFW 149631 ..... MZFW 168000
TOW 228686 ..... MTOW 238000
LDW 157129 ..... MLDW 182000

AR 1141. the return from FCO. which is in the air right now, left FCO with 231 paxs, plus 2950 kg freight. 13:57 hs flight time. Alt is MVD. MTOW was 238T.
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Re: Longest nonstop regular flight with the A332

Wed May 03, 2017 12:37 am

Are you counting pax+crew? AR's 330's carry 243Y+22J, I think every other seat is blocked for crew rest.
 
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Re: Longest nonstop regular flight with the A332

Wed May 03, 2017 1:27 am

That is on the non IGW A332 IIRC (LV-FNI/J/K/L). The new ones have FCRC (flight crew rest compartment) upfront and the cabin crew rest compartment on the lower deck (LV-FVI/H/GHQ/GIF) - these are the ones that fly to MAD and FCO. Unsure about the LV-GKO/P, but I would imagine they do not have the FCRC as they fly mostly to JFK, MIA, CUN, PUJ, BOG, USH and CCS; same as the non IGW PW powered ones.
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Re: Longest nonstop regular flight with the A332

Wed May 03, 2017 5:38 pm

With these super long flights, I was under the impression that there is a "sweet spot" for the A330, after which it is more economical to use a 777-200ER. Is this true? I appreciate AR doesn't have them but I was just curious.
 
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Re: Longest nonstop regular flight with the A332

Thu May 04, 2017 5:39 am

Osiris wrote:
With these super long flights, I was under the impression that there is a "sweet spot" for the A330, after which it is more economical to use a 777-200ER. Is this true? I appreciate AR doesn't have them but I was just curious.

if the flight is around 4000nm, the a330-300 is the best aircraft by far (in fuel economy).
For a 4000nm you will need around 140,000lbs of fuel, but the 777-200ER would need, for the same passenger and cargo count, 180,000.
the "sweet" spot for the -200 it starts to make sense around 5000 to 5500nm.
 
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Re: Longest nonstop regular flight with the A332

Mon May 15, 2017 12:38 am

Osiris wrote:
With these super long flights, I was under the impression that there is a "sweet spot" for the A330, after which it is more economical to use a 777-200ER. Is this true? I appreciate AR doesn't have them but I was just curious.


Another thing to keep in mind is that the new A332 versions, such as the 242T/238T that AR is using on FCO and MAD missions. They have given the A332 new legs, especially the 242T ones.
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