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AC announces new Frequent Flyer Program

Thu May 11, 2017 2:18 pm

Air Canada announces new frequent flyer program to replace Aeroplan for 2020.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/air-canada-aeroplan-1.4109868

Very interesting - hopefully it will be much better than Aeroplan.
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Re: AC announces new Frequent Flyer Program

Thu May 11, 2017 2:22 pm

It will be better than Aeroplan if they can make miles not expire, like Delta.
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Re: AC announces new Frequent Flyer Program

Thu May 11, 2017 2:48 pm

What goes around comes around. Aeroplan used to be Air Canada's own program until they spun it off, I've been a member since the beginning. I must admit last time I bought a "free" ticket with Aeroplan, the $600 in fees and taxes made the word "free" a big joke. Now that I'm retired and no longer travel for work I'm not sure I'll bother with the new program unless it's tied to a credit card.

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Re: AC announces new Frequent Flyer Program

Thu May 11, 2017 2:53 pm

Won't Altitude be used as the name?
 
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Re: AC announces new Frequent Flyer Program

Thu May 11, 2017 3:24 pm

Cyow wrote:
It will be better than Aeroplan if they can make miles not expire, like Delta.


Not sure what your mean, the miles already don't expire if you have one measly single-point transaction of any sort per year.

In this case miles will remain in Aeroplan and not transfer to the new program (we have to see what they will do for AC's Altitude members when it comes to how those existing Aeroplan points can be used in the new program).
 
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Re: AC announces new Frequent Flyer Program

Thu May 11, 2017 4:24 pm

I can see Aeroplan members stop accumulation of points starting now, and not waiting until 2020. For people flying Air Canada, they can accumulate mileage into UA (unless doing so would mean less miles because of how they treat class codes differently). For people using Aeroplan credit cards, they can switch to other credit cards that give them airline points. The reason? Why would you want to continue accumulate mileage into a program that may die after 2020 (worst case) or severely restricts what you can redeem (best case scenario, since you won't be able to redeem Star Alliance tickets any more after 2020)?

And this would be a drag not just to Aimia, but also Air Canada itself (although less so). For sure it is a negative for Aeroplan partners, especially TD and CIBC, which have paid so much to be able to issue Aeroplan credit cards.

Contractually, can Air Canada introduce its new program BEFORE Jun 30 2020? i.e. allowing its passengers to choose to accumulate between the new program and Aeroplan, during the transition period? Or is the contract between Air Canada and Aimia exclusive?

And for people who hope the new program is going to be better than Aeroplan, don't get the hopes up. I predict it would be like the programs in US. It would be almost impossible to get status, and the points will be awarded based on how much $ you have spent on the ticket, instead of which class you fly.
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Re: AC announces new Frequent Flyer Program

Thu May 11, 2017 5:14 pm

Aeroplan parent AIMIA's stock price is down 58% today.

Contract seems exclusive through June 29, 2020.

I'd stick to Aeroplan until end of it, especially if AC will honour status at transition.
 
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Re: AC announces new Frequent Flyer Program

Thu May 11, 2017 5:47 pm

Assuming Aeroplan still exists after June 2020, what would happen to it and with what airlines could it now work with?
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Re: AC announces new Frequent Flyer Program

Thu May 11, 2017 6:16 pm

berari wrote:
Aeroplan parent AIMIA's stock price is down 58% today.

Contract seems exclusive through June 29, 2020.

I'd stick to Aeroplan until end of it, especially if AC will honour status at transition.


Depends what happens to the points at the demise of Aeroplan. If they're still good that's great, but I'm skeptical. I have a whack of Aeroplan points, I will make sure my balance is zero before the switchover. I've already stopped using my Aeroplan card about a year ago, and now use a card that allows points to be redeemed towards the purchase of tickets on any airline.

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Re: AC announces new Frequent Flyer Program

Thu May 11, 2017 7:20 pm

beechnut wrote:
the $600 in fees and taxes made the word "free" a big joke.

^This.

My last redemption on BA was $440 for a 1way. The fare itself would've only been $899.
Seriously had to think if it was even worth giving up the miles. :?
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