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moby147
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How many Air France 777s with new J class?

Wed Sep 27, 2017 5:31 pm

Hi everyone,

I am looking to find out how many of Air France 777 aircraft have the new Best J class BUT I have no idea how to get that info??

Can any one help

Many thanks in advance

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mumf
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Re: Air France 777

Wed Sep 27, 2017 5:53 pm

Hi,

You can have this information on french Wikipedia article about Air France fleet : https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flotte_d% ... _cargos.29
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Re: Air France 777

Wed Sep 27, 2017 7:02 pm

It seems DEL still gets the old-J 77Ws (maybe those are the ones that do not have F). I am booked to/from DEL in about a month (one is a 77W and the other is an A332) and it seems I will get the old J seats in both, which is quite a pity.
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Re: Air France 777

Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:54 pm

mumf wrote:
Hi,

You can have this information on french Wikipedia article about Air France fleet : https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flotte_d% ... _cargos.29


That is brilliant but sadly I do not understand french

I am looking at tickets to Bangkok next year on AF166 but I am unable to find put if that service will use the new business class or the old seats??

Thank you for your help

Regards

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Re: Air France 777

Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:10 pm

Why don't you e-mail their customer service? They can surely tell you which product you're going to get (unless they don't have a consistent product on this particular flight / route).
 
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Re: Air France 777

Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:24 pm

The Air France website tells you if it says BEST next to the flight it means you have a new J seat.

I believe there are a few that have been delivered with old J due to the issues with Zodiac. The Caribbean fleet is also with the older business product.
 
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Re: How many Air France 777s with new J class?

Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:03 am

Seatguru.com has complete info on the various AF 777. There are many different versions.
 
moby147
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Re: Air France 777

Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:53 pm

THY748i wrote:
Why don't you e-mail their customer service? They can surely tell you which product you're going to get (unless they don't have a consistent product on this particular flight / route).


That was the first thing I did :-)
 
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Re: Air France 777

Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:54 pm

kl838 wrote:
The Air France website tells you if it says BEST next to the flight it means you have a new J seat.

I believe there are a few that have been delivered with old J due to the issues with Zodiac. The Caribbean fleet is also with the older business product.


Cheers I have now been told it will be operated by a 777 200/ER
 
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Re: Air France 777

Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:55 pm

kl838 wrote:
The Air France website tells you if it says BEST next to the flight it means you have a new J seat.

I believe there are a few that have been delivered with old J due to the issues with Zodiac. The Caribbean fleet is also with the older business product.


Thank you
 
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Re: How many Air France 777s with new J class?

Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:56 pm

jfk777 wrote:
Seatguru.com has complete info on the various AF 777. There are many different versions.


My first port of call, but it only tells you that there are 4 different versions, but is unable to tell you which has the new seats in J?

Thank you
 
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Re: Air France 777

Fri Sep 29, 2017 4:28 pm

moby147 wrote:
That is brilliant but sadly I do not understand french


You can try to understand the table I think : on the first column you have the registration of every B777 (F-GSPA, F-GSPB, ...), and the sixth column shows if the plane has Best&Beyond seats.

You can learn that every B777-200ER has B&B seats. Most of 77Ws have B&B, at least for Premium and Economy seats. (First column with registration, seventh with B&B).

Unfortunately, CDG-BKK is a "COI" (Caraïbes & Océan Indien, Caribbean & Indian Ocean) route. This configuration has 14J seats, 32 Premium Eco and 422 (!) Economy seats. Only for touristic destinations (BKK, RUN, PTP, FDF, PUJ, etc). These aircrafts have old J seat.
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Re: How many Air France 777s with new J class?

Sat Sep 30, 2017 5:26 am

Seat guru gets a little confusing as it's not totally up to date.

All of the 772s now have the best. Most of them are the 40/24/216 configuration, with a few flying around with 28/24/260. Both these configurations are best seating.

The 77w fleet is a bit more confusing. The most common is 42/24/315, which is not best seating. I believe this config and the COI are the only 77w that do not have best. Just happen to be a whole lot of them flying around

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