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scbriml wrote:I assume you're talking about colour schemes? You do appreciate it's an entirely subjective matter? One man's ugly is another's classic.
lightmac wrote:Beauty is not subjective. If you show 100 faces to 100 people, they will largely agree on what is pretty and what is not.
PatrickZ80 wrote:But you've got to admit they're not modern. Still there is room for modern design in China. If you look at Xiamen Air for example, they're rather good looking. Not really special, but certainly not dull or old-fashioned. Besides, China Eastern and China Southern are in the process of updating their liveries. It was long overdue, but it's finally coming. Their new liveries are rather plain, mostly white, but it's a step in the right direction. That only leaves Air China with a very outdated livery.
lightmac wrote:Beauty is not subjective. If you show 100 faces to 100 people, they will largely agree on what is pretty and what is not. The same is true for airlines.
I do think that "airline design" goes welll beyond "livery" and includes anything from lounge design, uniforms, on-board magazine, menue card etc....
lightmac wrote:If beauty was entirely subjective there would be no famous models/actresses/actors. While of course there are variations, the rules of proportion are true for everybody and thus beauty is largely consensual. It is true for airline design as well.
Are you suggesting that as many people enjoy the liveries of say "China Southern" as much as that of a well-designed, stylish livery?
lightmac wrote:If beauty was entirely subjective there would be no famous models/actresses/actors. While of course there are variations, the rules of proportion are true for everybody and thus beauty is largely consensual. It is true for airline design as well.
Are you suggesting that as many people enjoy the liveries of say "China Southern" as much as that of a well-designed, stylish livery?
lightmac wrote:If beauty was entirely subjective there would be no famous models/actresses/actors. While of course there are variations, the rules of proportion are true for everybody and thus beauty is largely consensual. It is true for airline design as well.
Are you suggesting that as many people enjoy the liveries of say "China Southern" as much as that of a well-designed, stylish livery?
lightmac wrote:Are you suggesting that as many people enjoy the liveries of say "China Southern" as much as that of a well-designed, stylish livery?
Cerecl wrote:lightmac wrote:Are you suggesting that as many people enjoy the liveries of say "China Southern" as much as that of a well-designed, stylish livery?
I think the vast majority of the flying public couldn't give 2 hoots about the livery of an airliner. Of those who care, only a small portion of them (if such people exist at all) actually base (or even part of) their purchase decision on it.
I cannot agree with scbriml more. Beauty is subjective. I personally don't like MU's old design but their new livery is much improved in my opinion. As you can see from post #5, member MartijnNL has exactly the opposite perception. I don't think we need a better example to illustrate my point.
By the way, can you tell me what the big difference between this
and this is?
What about this
and this?
workhorse wrote:Air China livery is a higly sensitive political issue
MartijnNL wrote:The new China Eastern colour scheme looks so much worse than the old one.
axiom wrote:lightmac wrote:If beauty was entirely subjective there would be no famous models/actresses/actors. While of course there are variations, the rules of proportion are true for everybody and thus beauty is largely consensual. It is true for airline design as well.
Are you suggesting that as many people enjoy the liveries of say "China Southern" as much as that of a well-designed, stylish livery?
I don't think you understand what subjectivity is. Or normative thinking, for that matter.
I think your question about liveries is loaded.
FromCDGtoSYD wrote:It's gone now but Asiana's old livery was.... special to say the least.
Amsterdam wrote:Beauty is not completely subjective
Sunsets, rainbows, tigers etc are found beautiful by whole mankind.
SamTheGeek wrote:workhorse wrote:Air China livery is a higly sensitive political issue
I'd revise that to all of the 'legacy' Chinese carriers.
HOOB747 wrote:Have you seen Juneyao Airline's explosion of color on their planes?
leleko747 wrote:Hainan Airlines is very colorful and striking.
747WanSui wrote:Also remember that livery changes may not always be popular. One such example that comes to mind is Air India’s 1989-91 livery. Although that livery could be considered more “modern,” it was unpopular among both passengers and airline staff, so it was dropped after just two years.