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PatrickZ80 wrote:Not much room for new destinations from Heathrow since the airport is more then full. Only way to start something new is to give up something else in return.
880dc8707 wrote:I know 1stops have become less and less popular, but BA could up capacity and
fly PHL PIT, ORD STL, DEN SLC, whatever, get better market coverage, a bigger customer base
Galwayman wrote:All the secondary cities in China , anything with 5 million plus , lots and lots of potential for the Chinese airlines
iadadd wrote:I'd like to think those cities would be better served from a hub such as FRA or AMS; better capability to connect to many cities in Europe
iadadd wrote:Galwayman wrote:All the secondary cities in China , anything with 5 million plus , lots and lots of potential for the Chinese airlines
I'd like to think those cities would be better served from a hub such as FRA or AMS; better capability to connect to many cities in Europe
stl07 wrote:STL
BlueTrue wrote:''With Norwegian starting LGW-TPA I could see BA switch its LGW-TPA to LHR-TPA, perhaps a return of BA LHR-DTW.''
Isn't it amazing how every discussion quickly turns to what routes should move from Lgw to Lhr and how stupid it is they operate from Lgw in the first place.
Have you ever travelled through Lgw?
OzarkD9S wrote:stl07 wrote:STL
Indeed. I think we're the largest US market not connected to LHR at this point.
Pepper456 wrote:North America: HNL, OGG, LIH, MCO, MCI, TPA, BIL, BOI, STL
Australia: SYD, BNE, MEL, CNS, OOL (when A350ULR is launched)
Africa: LAD, MPM, RAI, SID, TMS, WDH, TUN, ROB, BZV
South America: FOR, REC, MAO, BSB, POA, CNF, JPA, USH, LIM, CTG, CCS, POS, LPB, CLO
Central America: CUN, TIJ, LAP, SJC, BZE, PTP, FDF, VRA, LRM, PUJ
Asia: HKT, GOI, HYD, CTS, FUK, DPS, DIL, GOI, CCJ, FNJ, PUS, VVO, IKT, OVB, AER, KZN
Europe: ALC, VLC, OPO, PDL, TER, PIX, HOR, SMA, FNC, PXO, SCQ, VGO, MJV, GRX, SVQ, ACE, FUE, IBZ, MAH, LRH, NTE, ORY, CGN, STR, AAL, MMX, FLR, BDS, SUF, OLB, ESB, HER, CHQ, JTR, SKG, PFO, LCA, FKB
These are the most flagrant cases that i know...
Pepper456 wrote:North America: HNL, OGG, LIH, MCO, MCI, TPA, BIL, BOI, STL
Australia: SYD, BNE, MEL, CNS, OOL (when A350ULR is launched)
Africa: LAD, MPM, RAI, SID, TMS, WDH, TUN, ROB, BZV
South America: FOR, REC, MAO, BSB, POA, CNF, JPA, USH, LIM, CTG, CCS, POS, LPB, CLO
Central America: CUN, TIJ, LAP, SJC, BZE, PTP, FDF, VRA, LRM, PUJ
Asia: HKT, GOI, HYD, CTS, FUK, DPS, DIL, GOI, CCJ, FNJ, PUS, VVO, IKT, OVB, AER, KZN
Europe: ALC, VLC, OPO, PDL, TER, PIX, HOR, SMA, FNC, PXO, SCQ, VGO, MJV, GRX, SVQ, ACE, FUE, IBZ, MAH, LRH, NTE, ORY, CGN, STR, AAL, MMX, FLR, BDS, SUF, OLB, ESB, HER, CHQ, JTR, SKG, PFO, LCA, FKB
These are the most flagrant cases that i know...
LH658 wrote:Dhaka Colombo - BA
Peshawar - PIA
Karachi, Lahore, Islamabad - BA or Norwegian
CCU, HYD, Amritsar - AI, Norwegian, BA
YEG - AC, BA, Air Transat
Pepper456 wrote:North America: BIL, BOI
Andy33 wrote:Pepper456 wrote:North America: HNL, OGG, LIH, MCO, MCI, TPA, BIL, BOI, STL
Australia: SYD, BNE, MEL, CNS, OOL (when A350ULR is launched)
Africa: LAD, MPM, RAI, SID, TMS, WDH, TUN, ROB, BZV
South America: FOR, REC, MAO, BSB, POA, CNF, JPA, USH, LIM, CTG, CCS, POS, LPB, CLO
Central America: CUN, TIJ, LAP, SJC, BZE, PTP, FDF, VRA, LRM, PUJ
Asia: HKT, GOI, HYD, CTS, FUK, DPS, DIL, GOI, CCJ, FNJ, PUS, VVO, IKT, OVB, AER, KZN
Europe: ALC, VLC, OPO, PDL, TER, PIX, HOR, SMA, FNC, PXO, SCQ, VGO, MJV, GRX, SVQ, ACE, FUE, IBZ, MAH, LRH, NTE, ORY, CGN, STR, AAL, MMX, FLR, BDS, SUF, OLB, ESB, HER, CHQ, JTR, SKG, PFO, LCA, FKB
These are the most flagrant cases that i know...
As BoeingGuy has pointed out, OGG and LIH don't have the runway length. There may well be others that fall into this category - FLR for instance can't take anything bigger than an A319. But in addition quite a few of these routes have been tried and failed, or at least produced inadequate yields and passenger volumes compared to alternative uses of the plane and slots. One of the most recent of the ceased routes is ORY.
It will also come as a surprise to British Airways that there are no flights from LHR to JTR as they think they operate the route.
Pepper456 wrote:Andy33 wrote:Pepper456 wrote:North America: HNL, OGG, LIH, MCO, MCI, TPA, BIL, BOI, STL
Australia: SYD, BNE, MEL, CNS, OOL (when A350ULR is launched)
Africa: LAD, MPM, RAI, SID, TMS, WDH, TUN, ROB, BZV
South America: FOR, REC, MAO, BSB, POA, CNF, JPA, USH, LIM, CTG, CCS, POS, LPB, CLO
Central America: CUN, TIJ, LAP, SJC, BZE, PTP, FDF, VRA, LRM, PUJ
Asia: HKT, GOI, HYD, CTS, FUK, DPS, DIL, GOI, CCJ, FNJ, PUS, VVO, IKT, OVB, AER, KZN
Europe: ALC, VLC, OPO, PDL, TER, PIX, HOR, SMA, FNC, PXO, SCQ, VGO, MJV, GRX, SVQ, ACE, FUE, IBZ, MAH, LRH, NTE, ORY, CGN, STR, AAL, MMX, FLR, BDS, SUF, OLB, ESB, HER, CHQ, JTR, SKG, PFO, LCA, FKB
These are the most flagrant cases that i know...
As BoeingGuy has pointed out, OGG and LIH don't have the runway length. There may well be others that fall into this category - FLR for instance can't take anything bigger than an A319. But in addition quite a few of these routes have been tried and failed, or at least produced inadequate yields and passenger volumes compared to alternative uses of the plane and slots. One of the most recent of the ceased routes is ORY.
It will also come as a surprise to British Airways that there are no flights from LHR to JTR as they think they operate the route.
AA do OGG-DFW with a B777 (AA6) so why Kahalui cant have flights to LHR with a B787?
jamsco99 wrote:LH658 wrote:Dhaka Colombo - BA
Peshawar - PIA
Karachi, Lahore, Islamabad - BA or Norwegian
CCU, HYD, Amritsar - AI, Norwegian, BA
YEG - AC, BA, Air Transat
Air transat tried LHR once but didn't last long
Pepper456 wrote:North America: HNL, OGG, LIH, MCO, MCI, TPA, BIL, BOI, STL
Australia: SYD, BNE, MEL, CNS, OOL (when A350ULR is launched)
Africa: LAD, MPM, RAI, SID, TMS, WDH, TUN, ROB, BZV
South America: FOR, REC, MAO, BSB, POA, CNF, JPA, USH, LIM, CTG, CCS, POS, LPB, CLO
Central America: CUN, TIJ, LAP, SJC, BZE, PTP, FDF, VRA, LRM, PUJ
Asia: HKT, GOI, HYD, CTS, FUK, DPS, DIL, GOI, CCJ, FNJ, PUS, VVO, IKT, OVB, AER, KZN
Europe: ALC, VLC, OPO, PDL, TER, PIX, HOR, SMA, FNC, PXO, SCQ, VGO, MJV, GRX, SVQ, ACE, FUE, IBZ, MAH, LRH, NTE, ORY, CGN, STR, AAL, MMX, FLR, BDS, SUF, OLB, ESB, HER, CHQ, JTR, SKG, PFO, LCA, FKB
These are the most flagrant cases that i know...
Pepper456 wrote:North America: HNL, OGG, LIH, MCO, MCI, TPA, BIL, BOI, STL
Australia: SYD, BNE, MEL, CNS, OOL (when A350ULR is launched)
Africa: LAD, MPM, RAI, SID, TMS, WDH, TUN, ROB, BZV
South America: FOR, REC, MAO, BSB, POA, CNF, JPA, USH, LIM, CTG, CCS, POS, LPB, CLO
Central America: CUN, TIJ, LAP, SJC, BZE, PTP, FDF, VRA, LRM, PUJ
Asia: HKT, GOI, HYD, CTS, FUK, DPS, DIL, GOI, CCJ, FNJ, PUS, VVO, IKT, OVB, AER, KZN
Europe: ALC, VLC, OPO, PDL, TER, PIX, HOR, SMA, FNC, PXO, SCQ, VGO, MJV, GRX, SVQ, ACE, FUE, IBZ, MAH, LRH, NTE, ORY, CGN, STR, AAL, MMX, FLR, BDS, SUF, OLB, ESB, HER, CHQ, JTR, SKG, PFO, LCA, FKB
These are the most flagrant cases that i know...
Cunard wrote:Pepper456 wrote:North America: HNL, OGG, LIH, MCO, MCI, TPA, BIL, BOI, STL
Australia: SYD, BNE, MEL, CNS, OOL (when A350ULR is launched)
Africa: LAD, MPM, RAI, SID, TMS, WDH, TUN, ROB, BZV
South America: FOR, REC, MAO, BSB, POA, CNF, JPA, USH, LIM, CTG, CCS, POS, LPB, CLO
Central America: CUN, TIJ, LAP, SJC, BZE, PTP, FDF, VRA, LRM, PUJ
Asia: HKT, GOI, HYD, CTS, FUK, DPS, DIL, GOI, CCJ, FNJ, PUS, VVO, IKT, OVB, AER, KZN
Europe: ALC, VLC, OPO, PDL, TER, PIX, HOR, SMA, FNC, PXO, SCQ, VGO, MJV, GRX, SVQ, ACE, FUE, IBZ, MAH, LRH, NTE, ORY, CGN, STR, AAL, MMX, FLR, BDS, SUF, OLB, ESB, HER, CHQ, JTR, SKG, PFO, LCA, FKB
These are the most flagrant cases that i know...
Very fragrant list indeed and some ridiculous suggestions.
Some of those destinations are already flown from LHR.
Some of those destinations have recently been axed by British Airways from Heathrow such as Luanda and Nantes.
Some of those destinations were previously flown by British Airways from LHR but were obviously axed.
Some of those destinations are currently flown from LGW and no need to transfer them to a very slot constrained LHR.
With LHR very slot constrained your be lucky to see even 5 of those destinations that you have very ''fragrantly'' listed.
lordlogan wrote:Cunard wrote:Pepper456 wrote:North America: HNL, OGG, LIH, MCO, MCI, TPA, BIL, BOI, STL
Australia: SYD, BNE, MEL, CNS, OOL (when A350ULR is launched)
Africa: LAD, MPM, RAI, SID, TMS, WDH, TUN, ROB, BZV
South America: FOR, REC, MAO, BSB, POA, CNF, JPA, USH, LIM, CTG, CCS, POS, LPB, CLO
Central America: CUN, TIJ, LAP, SJC, BZE, PTP, FDF, VRA, LRM, PUJ
Asia: HKT, GOI, HYD, CTS, FUK, DPS, DIL, GOI, CCJ, FNJ, PUS, VVO, IKT, OVB, AER, KZN
Europe: ALC, VLC, OPO, PDL, TER, PIX, HOR, SMA, FNC, PXO, SCQ, VGO, MJV, GRX, SVQ, ACE, FUE, IBZ, MAH, LRH, NTE, ORY, CGN, STR, AAL, MMX, FLR, BDS, SUF, OLB, ESB, HER, CHQ, JTR, SKG, PFO, LCA, FKB
These are the most flagrant cases that i know...
Very fragrant list indeed and some ridiculous suggestions.
Some of those destinations are already flown from LHR.
Some of those destinations have recently been axed by British Airways from Heathrow such as Luanda and Nantes.
Some of those destinations were previously flown by British Airways from LHR but were obviously axed.
Some of those destinations are currently flown from LGW and no need to transfer them to a very slot constrained LHR.
With LHR very slot constrained your be lucky to see even 5 of those destinations that you have very ''fragrantly'' listed.
Some of those European suggestions are very unlikely. As much as I recently flew to the Azores and witnessed a fairly poor service from Azores Airlines, I don't see any service to TER, PIX, HOR, SMA, PXO being profitable enough to serve from LHR. Some of these are islands with a population of a couple of thousand. They're leisure destinations. If it becomes a particularly affluent tourist destination, you could get some sub-daily service to PDL (serving the largest island in the Azores), but nothing more.
I was also fairly sure that a service to FLR already existed and personally I would find a BZE service interesting, although more likely served from LGW.
Pepper456 wrote:lordlogan wrote:Cunard wrote:
Very fragrant list indeed and some ridiculous suggestions.
Some of those destinations are already flown from LHR.
Some of those destinations have recently been axed by British Airways from Heathrow such as Luanda and Nantes.
Some of those destinations were previously flown by British Airways from LHR but were obviously axed.
Some of those destinations are currently flown from LGW and no need to transfer them to a very slot constrained LHR.
With LHR very slot constrained your be lucky to see even 5 of those destinations that you have very ''fragrantly'' listed.
Some of those European suggestions are very unlikely. As much as I recently flew to the Azores and witnessed a fairly poor service from Azores Airlines, I don't see any service to TER, PIX, HOR, SMA, PXO being profitable enough to serve from LHR. Some of these are islands with a population of a couple of thousand. They're leisure destinations. If it becomes a particularly affluent tourist destination, you could get some sub-daily service to PDL (serving the largest island in the Azores), but nothing more.
I was also fairly sure that a service to FLR already existed and personally I would find a BZE service interesting, although more likely served from LGW.
Some routes of my list are seasonal (TUI can do this) of course