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Boarding always on left side of aircraft?

Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:57 am

I was just thinking as I waited to board my flight if all aircraft board via the left hand side jetway and stairs? Thinking back I can't think of any other door I've used aside from (showing my age here) the DC9s and BAC 1-11s used to have a tail stair which I've used many moons ago. Even non jetways seem to always use the left doors.
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Re: Boarding always on left side of aircraft?

Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:59 am

Yes it is always and has been the case. Started out the left so captain (left seat) could park and see next to terminal and since then manufacturers have put all service on the right to separate. Most cargo doors and baggage handling, catering and galley trucks, refuelling and external power, toilet waste etc. All these on the right now. Also allows for right engine running in case necessary without interfering with passenger boarding.

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Re: Boarding always on left side of aircraft?

Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:11 am

george77300 wrote:
Yes it is always and has been the case. Started out the left so captain (left seat) could park and see next to terminal and since then manufacturers have put all service on the right to separate. Most cargo doors and baggage handling, catering and galley trucks, refuelling and external power, toilet waste etc. All these on the right now. Also allows for right engine running in case necessary without interfering with passenger boarding.

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Thanks for the prompt response and link!!
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Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:11 am

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Re: Boarding always on left side of aircraft?

Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:16 pm

It's been like that for a very long time, but there was actually a time when airlines were given a choice in this matter. However you've got to go back to the days of the DC-3 for it. American, United and KLM have operated DC-3s with the right side boarding door in the past, other airlines chose to have it on the left side. Later when left side boarding became default the planes were converted and new aircraft were delivered with left side doors.

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Re: Boarding always on left side of aircraft?

Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:11 am

The left side isn't inherently better than the right, of course. But it's one of those things, kind of like driving on a given side of the road, that might have started for either good or trivial reasons, but once established it's almost impossible to reverse it. And why would you want to? The right side isn't any better than the left.
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Re: Boarding always on left side of aircraft?

Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:09 pm

steveinbc wrote:
I was just thinking as I waited to board my flight if all aircraft board via the left hand side jetway and stairs? Thinking back I can't think of any other door I've used aside from (showing my age here) the DC9s and BAC 1-11s used to have a tail stair which I've used many moons ago. Even non jetways seem to always use the left doors.


On my very first light I used the tail stairs on a BAC 1-11...
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Re: Boarding always on left side of aircraft?

Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:38 pm

When AI got their first 787s, I boarded one in CCU on the right hand side (by steps, 4R), not sure why. And a few years earlier I disembarked a BA 772 in SAN on the right hands side (1R), but I think that was due to a citywide power cut - it took them ages to find steps high enough for us.

I guess nowadays it's just easier to do pax on the left, catering/loading on the right - keeps things from getting messy.
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Re: Boarding always on left side of aircraft?

Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:04 am

It usually the same with ships, Boarding on the left (port) side.
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Re: Boarding always on left side of aircraft?

Mon Jul 16, 2018 12:01 pm

SimProgrammer wrote:
It usually the same with ships, Boarding on the left (port) side.


I don't think so. Just google pictures of (cruise) ship terminals and you will find ships docked on the right as well on the left side. New York's piers for example are accessible from both sides.
 
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Re: Boarding always on left side of aircraft?

Mon Jul 16, 2018 2:58 pm

DocLightning wrote:
The left side isn't inherently better than the right, of course. But it's one of those things, kind of like driving on a given side of the road, that might have started for either good or trivial reasons, but once established it's almost impossible to reverse it. And why would you want to? The right side isn't any better than the left.


Not inherently better, but these days plenty of aircraft have larger and/or better for boarding doors on the left side.
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Re: Boarding always on left side of aircraft?

Mon Jul 16, 2018 4:49 pm

SimProgrammer wrote:
It usually the same with ships, Boarding on the left (port) side.


I've always heard that that's exactly the reason it's called the "port" side.
 
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Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:38 pm

Yflyer wrote:
SimProgrammer wrote:
It usually the same with ships, Boarding on the left (port) side.


I've always heard that that's exactly the reason it's called the "port" side.


Only because berthing on other side was impractical due to the position of 'steorbord' in the days before an aft rudder. The 'Port' side was called "larboard" (Ladebord) (lade = load).
The Royal Navy ordered Larboard be called Port in 1844, due to the fact it sounded similar to starboard, thus removing any confusion. It eventually worked it's way around the world's fleets.



With regards to aircraft. In the early days of airships, it was generally Naval personnel operating them. Hence why the rules of the road & terms closely resemble those found in the nautical world.
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Re: Boarding always on left side of aircraft?

Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:54 pm

SimProgrammer wrote:
It usually the same with ships, Boarding on the left (port) side.


Back in the days of sail and galley slaves, viking ships did not have a hinged rudder like later ships would. Instead, they had a paddle-like steering board that went on the right side of the stern, hence "starboard" for "steering board." To prevent damage to this apparatus, they would dock with the left side to port.

I have taken several cruises and I have boarded ships from both port and starboard. Modern ships are roughly symmetrical in their external arrangements, including points for embarcation, and this is relevant because ports are so heterogeneous in layout.
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Re: Boarding always on left side of aircraft?

Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:35 pm

There was at least one gate on Flight Wing One (the guitar-shaped concourse) at the JFK TWA Flight Center where the jetway connected with the right side of a 747 (R1); there may have been other gates like that at that terminal.

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Re: Boarding always on left side of aircraft?

Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:14 pm

It might not be commercial too often but you load on the right side in a Bonanza.
 
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Re: Boarding always on left side of aircraft?

Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:41 am

Don't know if still the case, but years ago I did many BA 747 LHR-JFK (BA terminal) flights where disembarkation was via door 1R.
 
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Re: Boarding always on left side of aircraft?

Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:34 am

SmithAir747 wrote:
There was at least one gate on Flight Wing One (the guitar-shaped concourse) at the JFK TWA Flight Center where the jetway connected with the right side of a 747 (R1); there may have been other gates like that at that terminal.

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I believe in the first days of 747 operations at the Pan Am Worldport extension they had an additional jetway connect to the right side.
 
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Re: Boarding always on left side of aircraf

Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:43 am

Here is a TG DC-10 at MEL boarding from the right side.
 
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Re: Boarding always on left side of aircraft?

Fri Jul 27, 2018 10:02 pm

I deplaned from the right front door on an Eastern L-1011 at the old Orlando airport.

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Re: Boarding always on left side of aircraft?

Tue Aug 07, 2018 4:15 pm

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Re: Boarding always on left side of aircraft?

Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:57 pm

Same reason you mount a horse from the left side?
 
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Re: Boarding always on left side of aircraft?

Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:40 pm

Seabear wrote:
Same reason you mount a horse from the left side?

And why do people do that?
 
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Re: Boarding always on left side of aircraft?

Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:34 am

Vasu wrote:
Seabear wrote:
Same reason you mount a horse from the left side?

And why do people do that?


It's what the horses negotiated in their contract and not likely to be changed.
 
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Re: Boarding always on left side of aircraft?

Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:19 am

Here in India, right side boarding (R1/R2) is fairly common when the aircraft arrives as an international flight, docks at the international terminal and has a domestic run next. Domestic pax are bussed to the aircraft and board through the right, while the previous flight's pax deboard through the aerobridge on the left (L1/L2).

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