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United 747-100/200 Routes

Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:55 am

What routes did United fly 747-100/200 on?
 
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Re: United 747-100/200 Routes

Sat Jul 28, 2018 5:17 pm

Well, some of their first 747-100 flights were from SFO and LAX to Hawaii.
I think various Asian cities, such as Tokyo, Hong Kong, and Seul saw them every once in a while
 
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Re: United 747-100/200 Routes

Sat Jul 28, 2018 6:09 pm

What transpacific routes did they fly on?
 
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Re: United 747-100/200 Routes

Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:38 am

I know they had a pair of late build JT9D-7R4G2 powered -222Bs delivered around 86/87 that spent the majority of their lives on the JFK-NRT route.
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Re: United 747-100/200 Routes

Sun Jul 29, 2018 4:20 am

Were the -222B ever used on other routes besides JFK-NRT?
 
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Re: United 747-100/200 Routes

Sun Jul 29, 2018 4:43 am

Did UA ever used 747-100s or -200s on SFO-NRT, SFO-OSA, LAX-NRT, and LAX-KIX?
 
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Re: United 747-100/200 Routes

Sun Jul 29, 2018 8:38 pm

Ones I flew are ORD/HNL, ORD/SEA (continued to NRT), ORD/LAX, ORD/SFO, SFO/HNL
The ORD/SEA/NRT route went via PDX one day per week (I think it was Tuesdays but it was long ago)
 
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Re: United 747-100/200 Routes

Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:03 am

Recall that UA 811 (747-122 N4713U) was operating LAX-HNL-AKL-SYD when the cargo door detached after departing HNL on 24 Feb 1989.

UA operated -100s HNL-LAX-DEN-ORD return in late 70s. In 80s I flew UA SEL-NTR-SEL on UA 747-122 & 747-123.

In the 90s I did UA 747-238Bs DEN-ORD and ORD-SFO.

The airframes were all over the system...

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Re: United 747-100/200 Routes

Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:18 am

I think United flew 747s between EWR and LAX in the early 80s. My first trip to LAX (and first airline trip) was a TWA 707 EWR-LAX and a United 747 on the return (at least according to my folks and my uncle). I was 5 going on 6 and it would have been summer of '82.
 
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Re: United 747-100/200 Routes

Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:56 am

tmu101 wrote:
I think United flew 747s between EWR and LAX in the early 80s. My first trip to LAX (and first airline trip) was a TWA 707 EWR-LAX and a United 747 on the return (at least according to my folks and my uncle). I was 5 going on 6 and it would have been summer of '82.


UA flew 747s from EWR to LAX, SFO, NRT and the 747SP to LHR.
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Re: United 747-100/200 Routes

Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:19 am

UA857 wrote:
What routes did United fly 747-100/200 on?

Before UAL bought the Pan AM Pacific Division? The longest route was ORD-HNL. When we got the Pan Am Routes we had some B747-122's that had NEVER had the wings full. We still had Core reversers operating on our B747's Deeper than that? We were still flying the JT9D-3A's.!!
We got busy then and converted the engines to the -7ACN. and went from 734K MGWT to 755K MGWT) We also flew 10 747-SP's (8 SP-21's and 2 SP27's) About the time we bought the only 2 B747-222B's we ever owned (833K MGWT) which flew Exclusively JFK-NRT with the JT9D-7R4G engines. We operated them until the B747-422's came on board.
 
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Re: United 747-100/200 Routes

Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:50 am

UA857 wrote:
Did UA ever used 747-100s or -200s on SFO-NRT, SFO-OSA, LAX-NRT, and LAX-KIX?

the 747-100;s flew SFO-NRT, the L1011-500's flew OSA and KIX. Both -222B's were used JFK NRT unless they were In for checks or out of service when we used the SP in their place. We also bought the "Lemon Sisters" to supplement the B747-122's we got 5 B747-123's which we overhauled and flew which gave us a grand total of 23 B747-100's, !0 B747-SP's 10 L1011-500's and 3 DC10-30's initially. (2 we leased from CP-Air which flew SEA -HKG before we lost the Seattle route.And, Before the -422's came on board.
 
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Re: United 747-100/200 Routes

Fri Dec 14, 2018 2:46 am

Here's what I'm certain of, for international service...most of the routes below listed were in the early 90's, unless noted:
SFO-LHR
LHR-IAD
ORD-PDX-NRT (Royal Pacific Service, 1983-86) 2x per week IIRC
LHR-ORD-SEA (Summer 1996, #929)

Domestic routes most everyone mentioned...I did fly IAD-ORD, which was the second leg of MAD-IAD as #911
 
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Re: United 747-100/200 Routes

Sun Dec 16, 2018 7:05 am

strfyr51 wrote:
UA857 wrote:
Did UA ever used 747-100s or -200s on SFO-NRT, SFO-OSA, LAX-NRT, and LAX-KIX?

the 747-100;s flew SFO-NRT, the L1011-500's flew OSA and KIX. Both -222B's were used JFK NRT unless they were In for checks or out of service when we used the SP in their place. We also bought the "Lemon Sisters" to supplement the B747-122's we got 5 B747-123's which we overhauled and flew which gave us a grand total of 23 B747-100's, !0 B747-SP's 10 L1011-500's and 3 DC10-30's initially. (2 we leased from CP-Air which flew SEA -HKG before we lost the Seattle route.And, Before the -422's came on board.




Where else were the L1011’s flown ?


I don’t believe they were in service very
along with United ?
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Re: United 747-100/200 Routes

Sun Dec 16, 2018 3:24 pm

Max Q wrote:
strfyr51 wrote:
UA857 wrote:
Did UA ever used 747-100s or -200s on SFO-NRT, SFO-OSA, LAX-NRT, and LAX-KIX?

the 747-100;s flew SFO-NRT, the L1011-500's flew OSA and KIX. Both -222B's were used JFK NRT unless they were In for checks or out of service when we used the SP in their place. We also bought the "Lemon Sisters" to supplement the B747-122's we got 5 B747-123's which we overhauled and flew which gave us a grand total of 23 B747-100's, !0 B747-SP's 10 L1011-500's and 3 DC10-30's initially. (2 we leased from CP-Air which flew SEA -HKG before we lost the Seattle route.And, Before the -422's came on board.


Where else were the L1011’s flown ?


I don’t believe they were in service very
along with United ?


L10-11's also went to MNL, and I think BKK as well. They were not in UA's fleet for long.
 
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Re: United 747-100/200 Routes

Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:25 pm

I realize this is a pretty old thread, but figured I'd throw some more info out there.


UA857 wrote:
Were the -222B ever used on other routes besides JFK-NRT?

On substitutions, sure. But most of their lives were spent on only that route.

United had dedicated subfleets for their JFK-NRT (on 742) and JFK-HKG (on 744) routes in the 90's. Both of them in particularly premium-heavy configurations:

Typical 742: 18F/79C/272Y
JFK-NRT 742: 35F/128C/136Y

Typical 744: 18F/84C/270Y
JFK-HKG 744: 36F/123C/142Y


UA857 wrote:
Did UA ever used 747-100s or -200s on SFO-NRT, SFO-OSA, LAX-NRT, and LAX-KIX?

Yes, to all.


strfyr51 wrote:
We also flew 10 747-SP's (8 SP-21's and 2 SP27's)

United actually had 11 747SP's; 10 of them were SP-21's (N140UA-N149UA), and only 1 was an SP-27 (N150UA)


strfyr51 wrote:
the L1011-500's flew OSA and KIX.

The short-lived United L1011's flew only to OSA; KIX did not open until 1994, and the L1011's were long gone by then.


Max Q wrote:
Where else were the L1011’s flown ?

I don’t believe they were in service very long with United ?


According to a timetable I have from Fall 1986, they were used only the following routes:

SFO-OSA-MNL
SFO-NRT-PEK


strfyr51 wrote:
We also bought the "Lemon Sisters" to supplement the B747-122's we got 5 B747-123's which we overhauled and flew which gave us a grand total of 23 B747-100's, 10 B747-SP's 10 L1011-500's

As mentioned above, United actually had 11 747SP's. Also, United only ever operated 6 L1011-500's.

Of PanAm's original 12 L1011's, when the Pacific division was sold, the 12 birds were sold 3 ways; 6 to United, 3 to Delta, and 3 to the RAF.
 
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Re: United 747-100/200 Routes

Wed May 01, 2019 1:39 am

Transpac787 wrote:
I realize this is a pretty old thread, but figured I'd throw some more info out there.


UA857 wrote:
Were the -222B ever used on other routes besides JFK-NRT?

On substitutions, sure. But most of their lives were spent on only that route.

United had dedicated subfleets for their JFK-NRT (on 742) and JFK-HKG (on 744) routes in the 90's. Both of them in particularly premium-heavy configurations:

Typical 742: 18F/79C/272Y
JFK-NRT 742: 35F/128C/136Y

Typical 744: 18F/84C/270Y
JFK-HKG 744: 36F/123C/142Y


UA857 wrote:
Did UA ever used 747-100s or -200s on SFO-NRT, SFO-OSA, LAX-NRT, and LAX-KIX?

Yes, to all.


strfyr51 wrote:
We also flew 10 747-SP's (8 SP-21's and 2 SP27's)

United actually had 11 747SP's; 10 of them were SP-21's (N140UA-N149UA), and only 1 was an SP-27 (N150UA)


strfyr51 wrote:
the L1011-500's flew OSA and KIX.

The short-lived United L1011's flew only to OSA; KIX did not open until 1994, and the L1011's were long gone by then.


Max Q wrote:
Where else were the L1011’s flown ?

I don’t believe they were in service very long with United ?


According to a timetable I have from Fall 1986, they were used only the following routes:

SFO-OSA-MNL
SFO-NRT-PEK


strfyr51 wrote:
We also bought the "Lemon Sisters" to supplement the B747-122's we got 5 B747-123's which we overhauled and flew which gave us a grand total of 23 B747-100's, 10 B747-SP's 10 L1011-500's

As mentioned above, United actually had 11 747SP's. Also, United only ever operated 6 L1011-500's.

Of PanAm's original 12 L1011's, when the Pacific division was sold, the 12 birds were sold 3 ways; 6 to United, 3 to Delta, and 3 to the RAF.

What were the registrations of the 744 used on JFK-HKG?

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