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787s with RR engines... are you 100% comfortable flying them?

Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:15 pm

Greetings all,

Soon I'll have a flight with one of many carriers that have 787 powered by RR engines. I must confess that, after all that is happening with those, I feel a bit uneasy. I know this stuff is regulated and all, but with more and more bad news about those Trent 1000s it in the press, it makes a bit difficult for a person like me, who loves flying but is not an aircraft mechanic, to feel totally comfortable.
Latest news that im aware of is that a lot of 787s from many carriers were grounded right before summer, but recently more problems arose.
Anyway guys, what do you feel about it? I would really like to know your thoughts about flying those machines. Thank you.
 
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Re: 787s with RR engines... are you 100% comfortable flying them?

Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:40 pm

I've been on a 789 flight that shut down a Trent in flight and returned to station (Auckland) and would happily get on another Trent-powered aircraft without a second's hesitation.
 
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Re: 787s with RR engines... are you 100% comfortable flying them?

Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:49 pm

Don’t worry. Think that the chance of a IFSD for one engine is really really low. The chance of a double engine failure with the current technology is almost zero. I flew from Santiago de Chile to Auckland a couple of weeks ago in a 788 crossing the South Pacific at night, over one of the most isolated regions of the planet, and slept like a baby. The trip to the airport in your car is ten thousand times more dangerous than your long haul flight, no matter the engine manufacturer.
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Re: 787s with RR engines... are you 100% comfortable flying them?

Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:04 pm

Ever checked on avherald, how many engine failures there are on various aircraft? In October alone:
Boeing 767 (GE) power loss in flight
Airbus A321 (IAE) engine fire during take off run
Airbus A320 (IAE) engine fire shortly after lift off
ATR72 (PW) engine shutdown in flight
Airbus A330 (GE) engine problem in flight

Still hundreds of similar engines are still working fine and will continue working fine. Don't worry. It can happen but it is still unlikely to happen. And even if, there is a reason most aircraft have two or more engines...
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Re: 787s with RR engines... are you 100% comfortable flying them?

Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:10 pm

The 787 has a glide ratio of like 30/1. From a cruising altitude of 35,000 feet that means even if both engines shut down, the plane can still glide over 200 miles. It's not like a f16 where it'll fall out of the sky if the engines fail.
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Re: 787s with RR engines... are you 100% comfortable flying them?

Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:40 pm

Since planes are complex machines and " stuff is regulated" like you say, that is why they are safe. Just relax and don't be a knee-jerk alarmist.
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Re: 787s with RR engines... are you 100% comfortable flying them?

Wed Oct 10, 2018 2:04 pm

For over water, I always seek 4 engine flights, but I know the risk of flying with 2 is very small indeed. Would not worry, even with those RR's as odds are very long you will have an issue.
 
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Re: 787s with RR engines... are you 100% comfortable flying them?

Wed Oct 10, 2018 2:38 pm

Since I am in Tokyo and ANA being my choice carrier, I do fly their RR powered 787s quite often for work and leisure but never once felt unsecured about flying in them. Besides, most of the RR 787s flying today already have their engines worked on or still have hours left before they need to be sent to the workshop for repairs. I think you should be good flying in a RR 787. It is a fantastic plane, so just try to enjoy your flight. After taking more than 30 RR equipped 787 flights, I am still here to tell you my experience. Happy flying!
 
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Re: 787s with RR engines... are you 100% comfortable flying them?

Wed Oct 10, 2018 3:28 pm

Just flew one on Monday between EZE and SCL. Best flight ever.
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Re: 787s with RR engines... are you 100% comfortable flying them?

Wed Oct 10, 2018 3:34 pm

It's funny how people have (no) concept of "safety".
Many more people get killed driving to the airport catching their flight, but the RR powered 787 is supposed to be the scary part of the trip . . .

Phew, survived that trip across the pond on the 787, now I can get safely to the end of my journey through LA traffic (never mind Delhi/Mumbai ;-) . . . ).

https://jnylaw.com/practice-areas/car-accident/los-angeles-car-accident-statistics/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_vehicle_fatality_rate_in_U.S._by_year

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate
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Re: 787s with RR engines... are you 100% comfortable flying them?

Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:09 pm

sgbroimp wrote:
For over water, I always seek 4 engine flights, but I know the risk of flying with 2 is very small indeed. Would not worry, even with those RR's as odds are very long you will have an issue.


4 engines are really overkill today, 2 engines are perfectly safe. In fact, lately I heard that in case of an "all engines failure" 2 engines might be safer than 4. After all, 4 engines cause more drag than 2 so the plane can glide less far. This was due to the Air Transat A310 that ran out of fuel over the Atlantic and diverted to the Azores. It just barely made it. They were lucky it was a twin, should it have been a quad they would not have made it for sure.
 
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Re: 787s with RR engines... are you 100% comfortable flying them?

Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:29 pm

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